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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
435
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Posted - 2016.10.26 09:46:53 -
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Nice writeup.
"Dogma is kind of like quantum physics, observing the dogma state will change it." ~ CCP Prism X
"Schrödinger's Missile. I dig it." ~ Makari Aeron
-= "Brain in a Box on Singularity" - April 2015 =-
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Matar Ronin
2285
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Posted - 2016.10.26 16:10:14 -
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Morwen Lagann wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Lord Kailethre wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:Impressive numbers.
Kudos to the participants and to all those whose previous flights have helped to establish such efficient methods of engagement. It's quite unlike you to be so unilaterally positive. What's happened? Simple, they posted a 71 to 1 kill to death ratio. (Probably a tad higher than 71 in fact) These pilots are the first to seriously kick Drifter asses. Drifters have shown up all over New Eden like they own the place. Today for perhaps the first time in a long time people all over New Eden can have hope that humans will prevail against the Drifters. Mark your Calendars and remember their names because this might be a date that is historic. The day humanity stopped just fighting back and started winning. So yes I am damn pleased about the excellent actions of these brave few pilots. All New Eden should be. I think you've forgotten about the entirety of the Defense of the Throne Worlds campaign. The numbers of Drifter vessels destroyed in last week's engagement are nothing compared to the sorties every night of that campaign. Pilot Lagann I do not agree with you. My opinion is that the skill and success of the most recent engagement is a historic achievement. I am not demanding everyone agree with me, although I think history will.
The fact that is was executed by more then just pilots from the empire is why is can be claimed by all the people of New Eden. I am viewing this as a success for humans against invasion from beings that are not still human. I think that making this political is not something that will help rally all the people of New Eden against a universal threat. Again I do not demand everyone agree with me, it is my opinion that the "human pilots engaged versus the Drifters are better served by setting aside human vs. human political disputes for the duration of the fight". I will fly with those whom I might otherwise try to destroy but would certainly die/sacrifice any ship to protect fleet mates in the interest of defeating the Drifters, and I am pretty hardcore in my political positions. That is how important I think humans working together is. Again just my position and opinion.
Although you might be able to compare the number of destroyed vessels I think the outstanding kill to death ratio by a small group of skilled pilots is something that stands out. I can not agree it is nothing, regardless of what you compare it to.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Morwen Lagann
Tyrathlion Interstellar
1901
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Posted - 2016.10.26 21:06:16 -
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And as a participant in both the aforementioned campaign and in this particular fleet, just like Alizabeth - I'm going to state, from a position of knowledge and authority, that you, as someone external to the entire thing, are wrong about much of this where your opinions and assertions are concerned.
Let's go down the line:
1) "The fact that is was executed by more then just pilots from the empire is why it can be claimed by all the people of New Eden."
With all due respect to Alizabeth, SERAPH is first and foremost an Amarr-centric outfit. It's even in the name - E for Empire, as in Amarr Empire. While similarly 'closed' in recruitment to what we internally referred to as the "Drifter Fight Club" during the Throne Worlds campaign, DFC was, in contrast, led and piloted in majority, by non-Amarr. I would have to go look through fleet rosters to check the exact demographics. (Which I can do, it'll just take some time. I'm rather busy dealing with a fair number of Drifters and Seekers on my doorstep today.)
The fleet on Friday had, of its twelve combatants, three people who aren't really affiliated with the Empire. One was with the State. The other two were independents. Neither the Republic, nor the Federation, really, get to lay any claim to this 'victory'.
The Throne Worlds campaign fleets, particularly the ones that I led, on the other hand, included pilots directly affiliated with the Federation and Republic, and therefore, actually could make that claim in some sense.
2) "[...] it is my opinion that the "human pilots engaged versus the Drifters are better served by setting aside human vs. human political disputes for the duration of the fight"."
Similarly to the above, this does not really apply to Friday's operation. Everyone in that fleet was largely on the same "side" before taking Drifters into account. If you want examples of your opinion in action, for the moment you should be looking at ARC's fleets instead, which regularly have members of opposing militia in fleet together.
Alizabeth can back me up on this: SERAPH's primary 'goal' is little more than just killing Drifters. It's not about cooperation, it's not about multiculturalism. It's about killing Drifters, full stop.
3) "Although you might be able to compare the number of destroyed vessels I think the outstanding kill to death ratio by a small group of skilled pilots is something that stands out. I can not agree it is nothing, regardless of what you compare it to."
Even if we put the number of Drifters destroyed in a single sitting aside, under my command, the fleets in the Throne Worlds campaign lost fewer crew over a period of months than were aboard the one Svipul that was lost last Friday in SERAPH's fleet. Individual engagements in that campaign were against thirteen or fourteen Drifters at once. At most, Friday encountered three.
If you want to give credit where credit is due, the breakthrough here is in the new fleet doctrine that was being tested more than it is in anything else. Everything else you suggest is a breakthrough, was accomplished months ago during the defense of the Throne Worlds.
I would argue that Alizabeth's second point that we confirmed that the Drifters are still a threat isn't much of a breakthrough, since we had been given no indication they had stopped being a threat, but all things considered that is a rather minor quibble and I don't think she or I need to waste time fussing back and forth over it.
Morwen Lagann
CEO, Tyrathlion Interstellar
Coordinator, Arataka Research Consortium
Owner, The Golden Masque
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Alizabeth Vea
Hounds of Sarum
968
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Posted - 2016.10.26 23:28:25 -
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I will take the time to write something more complete when I am not doing something more important that posting on the IGS, which is actually pretty far down my scale of things that matter.
1: Vollhov. No one doubts your devotion to Empress Jamyl. However, she's gone and I cannot change that. All I can do now is to keep moving forward how Empress Jamyl would want me to and how Empress Catiz does. Denying her legitimacy is a nonstarter.
2: Mr. Ronin, next time, please just give the compliment. We will accept and everyone will be happy. There's no need to really politic this.
Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.
"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Virtue. Valor. Victory.
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Kaaeliaa
Tyrannos Sunset
96798
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Posted - 2016.10.27 02:13:32 -
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I don't want any politics or motives assigned to my destruction of Drifters aside from the fact that I want to destroy Drifters, everywhere they are.
"Do not lift the veil. Do not show the door. Do not split the dream."
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
112
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Posted - 2016.10.27 10:58:44 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:
1: Vollhov. No one doubts your devotion to Empress Jamyl. However, she's gone and I cannot change that. All I can do now is to keep moving forward how Empress Jamyl would want me to and how Empress Catiz does. Denying her legitimacy is a nonstarter.
Away from you conceal the the truth.
It is unfortunate such as do not want to know her. So as soon as to you can uncover where Auctoritas.
And what is written in the testament. It is unfortunate that the loyalists do not want to know anything, and accept the succession so easily.
What about me.
I do not recognize the Emperor / Empress which were crowned with the help of capsuleers.
It is not God's choice. The choice of God in the history of Amarr was once. (And you know who have been chosen by God)
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1716
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Posted - 2016.10.27 11:47:28 -
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Vollhov Jr wrote:Alizabeth Vea wrote:
1: Vollhov. No one doubts your devotion to Empress Jamyl. However, she's gone and I cannot change that. All I can do now is to keep moving forward how Empress Jamyl would want me to and how Empress Catiz does. Denying her legitimacy is a nonstarter.
Away from you conceal the the truth. It is unfortunate such as do not want to know her. So as soon as to you can uncover where Auctoritas. And what is written in the testament. It is unfortunate that the loyalists do not want to know anything, and accept the succession so easily. What about me. I do not recognize the Emperor / Empress which were crowned with the help of capsuleers. It is not God's choice. The choice of God in the history of Amarr was once. (And you know who have been chosen by God)
The trans-neural burner in her pod is deactivated. She's gone. Get over it.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Matar Ronin
2288
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Posted - 2016.10.27 15:40:41 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:I will take the time to write something more complete when I am not doing something more important that posting on the IGS, which is actually pretty far down my scale of things that matter.
2: Mr. Ronin, next time, please just give the compliment. We will accept and everyone will be happy. There's no need to really politic this. Actually that is exactly what I did.
I then responded to inquiries as to why I complimented the brave heroic actions I thought everyone should be proud of.
I even said it should not be a political issue, even for a hardcore political person like myself.
Pilot Vea please check my record in this thread. If saying humans fighting against Drifters is "Politics" then yes I said that. If saying all humans should be proud of the accomplishments of your small group of effective successful pilots is "Politics" then yes I said that.
To be fair you should not admonish me when someone else takes offense to a generic non-political compliment I posted. In this particular case Most reasonable people would review my statements and find me not guilty of politics. Why do you need to admonish me for some reaction another pilot had to my compliments? It could even be viewed as you bowing to "Political" pressures to smack at anything I say, even when you understand the words not to be political.
Is that because of me being a Matari?
Do I not have both the right and responsibility to respond to a direct question posted when I choose to?
Perhaps in the future you might want to include in the title of your threads "Amarr Supporters Only" so pilots who do not agree with that philosophy can choose in advance to not participate in or read the thread. Just my thoughts, not instructions.
However since a pilot involved in the action has stated she wants to fight against "Drifters" in a politics free way you might have to tell everyone in the future that participation with your fleets is joining an Amarr Supporters Group. Just my thoughts, not instructions.
Fleets and corps can be selective as to whom is allowed to participate and in which manner they can then do so, IGS not so much. You might want to consider that before telling people on IGS what to say and how they may say it. Just my thoughts, not instructions.
Bottom line, the actions of a few brave and skilled pilots might have been the turning point in humans attitude towards the fight with the Drifters, many people feared them to be unstoppable after their quick destruction of a Titan Class Capital ship, your squadrons have proven them vulnerable to better skills and tactics. I stand behind saying that is something everyone can and should be proud of.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative
Moist.
182
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Posted - 2016.10.27 16:58:31 -
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Is there uh . . . a reason we don't consider the Drifters to be human?
Just curious. |
Alizabeth Vea
Hounds of Sarum
971
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Posted - 2016.10.27 17:00:02 -
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Matar Ronin wrote:
The fact that is was executed by more then just pilots from the empire is why it can be claimed by all the people of New Eden.
This is actually what I objected too. All the people of New Eden have no claim on what me and mine do.
As far as you being Matari, there was one in my fleet, so that is a nonstarter.
Again, I appreciate the compliments and your happiness at our success. I am sure the rest of my pilots do as well.
Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.
"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Virtue. Valor. Victory.
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
Sani-Sabik
1733
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Posted - 2016.10.27 17:00:34 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:Is there uh . . . a reason we don't consider the Drifters to be human?
Just curious.
Because it's easier to hate on them that way.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Matar Ronin
2288
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Posted - 2016.10.27 17:31:17 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:Matar Ronin wrote:
The fact that is was executed by more then just pilots from the empire is why it can be claimed by all the people of New Eden.
This is actually what I objected too. All the people of New Eden have no claim on what me and mine do. As far as you being Matari, there was one in my fleet, so that is a nonstarter. Again, I appreciate the compliments and your happiness at our success. I am sure the rest of my pilots do as well. Pilot Vea It is I who appreciate what you and your pilots did, thank you for inspiring people, even if that was not your primary intention.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Alizabeth Vea
Hounds of Sarum
971
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Posted - 2016.10.27 17:45:01 -
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Thank you. And if I did inspire people--there's always more Drifters to kill. I would love to see a taskforce set up by the Minmatar. Even the Gallente should get involved.
Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.
"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Virtue. Valor. Victory.
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Matar Ronin
2288
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Posted - 2016.10.27 17:47:29 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:Is there uh . . . a reason we don't consider the Drifters to be human?
Just curious. The autopsies performed on "Drifters" have shown remarkable physiological differences from humans in the New Eden Cluster.
That is why I question if they are still human, or if they ever were human. It has nothing to do with making it easier to "hate on them".
Lost in the mists of history is the exact origin of humanity in the New Eden Cluster, did we originate in a different Eden Cluster on the far side of the EVE Gate?
Were the "Drifters" the indigenous human like people of this side of the EVE Gate?
Did the great downfall come as a result of ancient warfare between humans and "Drifters"?
We have many questions that have not yet been answered.
Exactly what the "Drifters" are is indeed one of them.
GÇÿVain flame burns fast/and its lick is light/Modest flame lasts long/and burns to the bone.GÇÖ
" We lost a war we chose not to fight." Without a doubt this is the best way to lose any war and the worst excuse to explain the beating afterwards.
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
112
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Posted - 2016.10.27 18:00:20 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:
The trans-neural burner in her pod is deactivated. She's gone. Get over it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-W4cQQGjHKsM/VdqA8wY8ZDI/AAAAAAAACHU/260QvO2GwTI/s1600/Jamyl%2BLocation%2BUnedited.png
Quote:"Her Imperial Majesty's life will stand eternal as an example for all who live truly and rightly within the embrace of Holy Amarr. The martyrdom of Empress Jamyl I was inflicted with base treachery but its lasting effect will be the inspiration of a thousand generations down the ages."
 
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Alizabeth Vea
Hounds of Sarum
971
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Posted - 2016.10.27 18:07:00 -
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If. And let me emphasize if.
If Empress Jamyl cloned and is currently out in New Eden somewhere, let her enjoy her peace. God knows she's earned it.
If she is still alive, sitting on a high mountain peak, enjoying brisk, cold air and the snow, or whatever the True Amarr equivalent is, then that only strengthens my resolve. I would kill every single Drifter to ensure she can live her life in peace and comfort.
Again. If.
Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.
"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Virtue. Valor. Victory.
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Mitara Newelle
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
523
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Posted - 2016.10.27 19:06:55 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:If. And let me emphasize if.
If Empress Jamyl cloned and is currently out in New Eden somewhere, let her enjoy her peace. God knows she's earned it.
If she is still alive, sitting on a high mountain peak, enjoying brisk, cold air and the snow, or whatever the True Amarr equivalent is, then that only strengthens my resolve. I would kill every single Drifter to ensure she can live her life in peace and comfort.
Again. If.
While I can very much sympathize with your desire to see our beloved Empress Jamyl alive, Sister, we must be mindful of our thoughts, lest we dishonor her memory.
As much as we may want otherwise, she has again taken her rightful place next to the Lord in Paradise.
Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
112
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Posted - 2016.10.27 19:08:39 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:If. And let me emphasize if.
If Empress Jamyl cloned and is currently out in New Eden somewhere, let her enjoy her peace. God knows she's earned it.
If she is still alive, sitting on a high mountain peak, enjoying brisk, cold air and the snow, or whatever the True Amarr equivalent is, then that only strengthens my resolve. I would kill every single Drifter to ensure she can live her life in peace and comfort.
Again. If.
For example:
Pomik Haromi - Surprising man can be in two places at once. In the courtyard and on the station Sharhelund VIII - Moon 5 - Sarum Family Assembly Plant
That's who should rule the Empire
P.s
From time to time I will always remind you of Jamyl Sarum.
Since "a reminder of her" this is the will of my brother. 
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Alizabeth Vea
Hounds of Sarum
972
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Posted - 2016.10.27 19:22:47 -
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I know, my Lady. And frankly, Paradise is nothing less than she deserves.
Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.
"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Virtue. Valor. Victory.
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Mitara Newelle
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
525
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Posted - 2016.10.27 19:37:52 -
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What in God's name are you rambling on about now?
Vollhov Jr wrote:P.s From time to time I will always remind you of Jamyl Sarum. Since "a reminder of her" this is the will of my brother.
Empress Jamyl Sarum has no need of you to 'remind' the Faithful of her, she will forever be with us.
Lady Mitara Newelle of House Sarum, Holder of the Mekhios province of Damnidios Para'nashu, Champion of House Sarum, Sworn Upholder of the Faith, Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Admiral of Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
115
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Posted - 2016.10.27 20:19:58 -
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Mitara Newelle wrote:What in God's name are you rambling on about now? .
Nothing.
I just admire this man.
Not everyone can be in two places at once 
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative
Moist.
183
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Posted - 2016.10.27 20:31:40 -
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Vollhov Jr wrote:Not everyone can be in two places at once
Indeed, CONCORD has laws against that sort of thing. |
Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
115
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Posted - 2016.10.27 21:52:20 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:Vollhov Jr wrote:Not everyone can be in two places at once Indeed, CONCORD has laws against that sort of thing.
FTL (Local chat) for capsuleers (created specially CONCORD), that there did Catiz during the coronation?
It capsuleer?
Sorry that's another topic.
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1719
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Posted - 2016.10.28 01:17:35 -
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Vollhov Jr wrote:Persephone Alleile wrote:Vollhov Jr wrote:Not everyone can be in two places at once Indeed, CONCORD has laws against that sort of thing. FTL (Local chat) for capsuleers (created specially CONCORD), that there did Catiz during the coronation? It capsuleer? Sorry that's another topic.
Anyone who has access to Galnet and a communicator linked to the fluid router network can speak in Local. The only issue is that the tech is usually darn expensive.
Which is nothing for an Empress.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Alizabeth Vea
Hounds of Sarum
974
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Posted - 2016.10.28 02:17:03 -
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Empress Catiz is so rich that when God needs a loan, He calls her.
(Am I allowed to make that joke?)
Retainer of Lady Newelle and House Sarum.
"Those who step into the light shall be redeemed, the sins of their past cleansed, so that they may know salvation." -Empress Jamyl Sarum I
Virtue. Valor. Victory.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1721
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Posted - 2016.10.28 02:20:33 -
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Alizabeth Vea wrote:Empress Catiz is so rich that when God needs a loan, He calls her.
(Am I allowed to make that joke?)
I can actually see that happening.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1721
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Posted - 2016.10.28 02:31:12 -
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Have you actually search the 'People and Places' directory to confirm that this is not an imposter?
Also, let it be known that the directory is not always up to date. Heck, I wager that if I am to go up to a locator agent right now with a fistful of ISK and ask him or her to locate Karin Midular, who is NOT a capsuleer, he/she *will* find Karin Midular, despite the fact that Karin Midular is dead.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
115
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Posted - 2016.10.28 03:22:00 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:Vollhov Jr wrote:Persephone Alleile wrote:Vollhov Jr wrote:Not everyone can be in two places at once Indeed, CONCORD has laws against that sort of thing. FTL (Local chat) for capsuleers (created specially CONCORD), that there did Catiz during the coronation? It capsuleer? Sorry that's another topic. Anyone who has access to Galnet and a communicator linked to the fluid router network can speak in Local. The only issue is that the tech is usually darn expensive. Which is nothing for an Empress.
Error.
Not anyone. And only Capsuleers. It is in this neural network.
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Vollhov Jr
SOERI Academy
115
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Posted - 2016.10.28 03:27:37 -
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Mitara Newelle wrote:
Empress Jamyl Sarum has no need of you to 'remind' the Faithful of her, she will forever be with us.
Then the I have to disappoint you, you have forgotten one date.
Maybe the Order of Jamyl remind all. 20th September.
It is a pity that all of were busy killing of true Amarr
Empress Jamyl I Coronation/Eve Online Gallery/Token of Submission
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
1721
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Posted - 2016.10.28 03:37:39 -
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Vollhov Jr wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Vollhov Jr wrote:Persephone Alleile wrote:Vollhov Jr wrote:Not everyone can be in two places at once Indeed, CONCORD has laws against that sort of thing. FTL (Local chat) for capsuleers (created specially CONCORD), that there did Catiz during the coronation? It capsuleer? Sorry that's another topic. Anyone who has access to Galnet and a communicator linked to the fluid router network can speak in Local. The only issue is that the tech is usually darn expensive. Which is nothing for an Empress. Error. Not anyone. And only Capsuleers. It is in this neural network.
Nope. The fluid router network exists OUTSIDE the neural network for ages. How did you think the Empires and their Executors communicate with each other in distances measured in light years? The only problem is that us independent Capsuleers are constantly connected to Local while the others can choose when to access the public Local network and when to just stick to private channels.
Just try it with Jacus Roden, the President of the Gallente Federation. He is Capsuleer. Just get a Locator Agent to find where he is currently living in and go to his system and see if he is on Local. He isn't. Because unlike the rest of us, he can choose when he doesn't want to be in Local.
Empress Catiz, being a very important figure that she is (and fabulously rich, by the way, even without counting on the financial power of the entirety of the Empire) can access Local whenever she pleases. Nobody is going to deny her that privilege.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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