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3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:32:00 - [1] Edited by: 3rdD Dave on 25/03/2007 02:29:20 Estimated to have stolen 1 Billion in ISk. Either way EASILY recovered by our corp.. EASILY Official corp announcement.. Get your self into a hard core PVP corp to protect yourself.. Every single corp you join will be wardecced by Dark Entropy.. and trust me m8, we have a good rep in EVE at what we do. ****ing scum like you should be drowned at birth.
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:37:00 - [2] I know it is apart of EVE now..but it is seriously sad to keep seeing these.Depsite what some may say there are still those of us (yes even pirates like I) theat feel that moral fiber extends past the computer screen. How about friendship and trust..those are good, nay great ways to enjoy a game like an MMO. I have never reponded to any threads like this before but I do hope the above corp does indeed make your life in EVE less enjoyeable by wardecing every corp you join. At least it (the war) will be fun for them. my thoughts and ideas represent your corp
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:49:00 - [3] LOL we are hard corp pirates as well.. its what we do, and don't get me started on Psychology, anyways ;IMHO this action should be a ban-able offense and CCp the ****s should have better log functions on a POS because if there was we would have caught this guy sooner.
Terra Mauter Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:51:00 - [4] You'll get bored.. he'll just join a corp which doesnt care..
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.25 02:56:00 - [5] Edited by: 3rdD Dave on 25/03/2007 02:52:44 This is Dave your talking to. Im pretty regimented once i start something. Either way.. G`luck Eve denizens.. you have been warned about this guy.
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.25 03:31:00 - [6] Thanks for the warning. As for the moral fiber thing, I can see it going either way. I mean, yeah, it's just a bloody game, but at the same time you're forging stronger bonds with your corpmates than you do with plain old clans in other games, because you actually need to depend on each other instead of just being a hang-out crew. Me, I could never rob my corp. I've become too close with them and would hate to have them hurt like that, even if it's just losing a lot of game time's worth of items. It's funny that this should come up because just earlier I was looking through the corp hangars and seeing that we have a lot of ISK in the items we've got saved. The idea of corp theft came to me and I asked myself "Could I ever rob these guys?" It didn't take long before I was like "**** no, these guys are as close to me as some people who consider themselves friends in real life. Closer, in fact, than some IRL people too." However I did try to rob the Chicago Mobsters with an alt way back when. Unfortunately I got bored with my main and quit Eve for a while, not expecting to get kicked. With that I tried not to have any feelings of friendliness with the people with whom I was working. ----- Don't add a pool to sell a house. Fix the windows. Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:05:00 - [7] Well we are stopping him from leaving the corp via roles. Yes yes, this is greifing.. I dont care. CCp allow legal greifing thru their game via the game mechanics. Im just going to return the favor, via their game mechanics.
kublai Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:07:00 - [8] Originally by: 3rdD Dave LOL we are hard corp pirates as well.. its what we do, and don't get me started on Psychology, anyways ;IMHO this action should be a ban-able offense and CCp the ****s should have better log functions on a POS because if there was we would have caught this guy sooner. You're a damn carebear is what you are. Beef up security, go kill him but really, nobody cares about the whining and it's things like this that make eve the great game it is.
kublai Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:08:00 - [9] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Well we are stopping him from leaving the corp via roles. Yes yes, this is greifing.. I dont care. CCp allow legal greifing thru their game via the game mechanics. Im just going to return the favor, via their game mechanics. That however, IS a bannable offence, the hypocracy \o/ I heard they ban you for corp theft over at www.wow-europe.com + you dont even drop items when you die!1
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:10:00 - [10] Well they will have to ban me then and 5 other ceos. At this point i dont care.
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:15:00 - [11] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Well they will have to ban me then and 5 other ceos. At this point i dont care. You don't care about getting banned just for someone stealing from you. you sir are rather weird. if u don't want to play this game then why not just quit. you are not griefing there you are breaking the game rules and all he has to do is petition u and they will remove him themselves. Also tbh you deserve to have had it stolen tbh. you give someone access to that kind of isk without even checking with his old ceo's to see if he was trustworthy or not. he did the exact same thing to his old corp so a simple check would have made u aware that he is a theif, DE
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:36:00 - [12] Nope. I honestly dont care, this game has caused an immense amount of stress for some ppl right now because of his actions. CCP has provided the tool that allows one player to hurt another, so they share the responsibility. Why should this action be allowed in the game? The top ceo has decided that we are moving out of the drone region because of it. The amount of duress involved moving a huge operation at a POS is incredibly stressful in itself. Theres is no real security at a POS. You simply cannot trust everyone as past events has shown from other corps.
kublai Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:41:00 - [13] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Nope. I honestly dont care, this game has caused an immense amount of stress for some ppl right now because of his actions. CCP has provided the tool that allows one player to hurt another, so they share the responsibility. Why should this action be allowed in the game? The top ceo has decided that we are moving out of the drone region because of it. The amount of duress involved moving a huge operation at a POS is incredibly stressful in itself. Theres is no real security at a POS. You simply cannot trust everyone as past events has shown from other corps. I thought it would be (iniate caps lock) no problem at all (shut down caps lock) to regain your losses, you totally didnt care at all etc. You have your own stupidity to thank for a complete lack of security and background checking.
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.25 09:43:00 - [14] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Nope. I honestly dont care, this game has caused an immense amount of stress for some ppl right now because of his actions. CCP has provided the tool that allows one player to hurt another, so they share the responsibility. Why should this action be allowed in the game? The top ceo has decided that we are moving out of the drone region because of it. The amount of duress involved moving a huge operation at a POS is incredibly stressful in itself. Theres is no real security at a POS. You simply cannot trust everyone as past events has shown from other corps. You need to get a life dude. Firstly you're playing a frickin game, stop being so sad ffs. If you and your friends get so immensely stressed out as u say over this kind of issue then u really need to re think what you're doing. And if something like this causes you sooooo much stress then i envey your RL tbh. must not have much to get stressed out about in reality which is very lucky of you. Secondly, yes ccp allows this kind of action. it is part of the game. what you are doing is not part of the game, against the rules. if you really don't care about breaking some simple rules set out then i hope you do get banned tbh. Respect the rules or leave the game... that simple DE
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.25 10:15:00 - [15] Originally by: kublai Originally by: 3rdD Dave Nope. I honestly dont care, this game has caused an immense amount of stress for some ppl right now because of his actions. CCP has provided the tool that allows one player to hurt another, so they share the responsibility. Why should this action be allowed in the game? The top ceo has decided that we are moving out of the drone region because of it. The amount of duress involved moving a huge operation at a POS is incredibly stressful in itself. Theres is no real security at a POS. You simply cannot trust everyone as past events has shown from other corps. I thought it would be (iniate caps lock) no problem at all (shut down caps lock) to regain your losses, you totally didnt care at all etc. You have your own stupidity to thank for a complete lack of security and background checking. first and fore most it would have been easy if we were to stay in the drone region but now were leaving as a result of living out of non secure hangars. SO it wont be that easy. I just love the way the community comes together at times like this. Announce a corp thief, "ah your problem you deserved it". And quit insulting me, i have a life, a very very good one. The bottom line is, i didnt loose that much, but my corp mates did and i have the human ability to be empathetic with them as it has hurt some quite a bit. Its quite a pity Darkelf you dont have this ability too and see the ****ty actions of one player completely setting back a corp. You have all been warned about this guy. G`luck.
Aragog Caldari Dark Entropy	Posted - 2007.03.25 10:20:00 - [16] That means people have been warned twice Eve-search anyone?
Pilok Shitfly Minmatar	Posted - 2007.03.25 10:24:00 - [17] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Well they will have to ban me then and 5 other ceos. At this point i dont care. Yeah, that will teach him
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:06:00 - [18] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Originally by: kublai Originally by: 3rdD Dave Nope. I honestly dont care, this game has caused an immense amount of stress for some ppl right now because of his actions. CCP has provided the tool that allows one player to hurt another, so they share the responsibility. Why should this action be allowed in the game? The top ceo has decided that we are moving out of the drone region because of it. The amount of duress involved moving a huge operation at a POS is incredibly stressful in itself. Theres is no real security at a POS. You simply cannot trust everyone as past events has shown from other corps. I thought it would be (iniate caps lock) no problem at all (shut down caps lock) to regain your losses, you totally didnt care at all etc. You have your own stupidity to thank for a complete lack of security and background checking. first and fore most it would have been easy if we were to stay in the drone region but now were leaving as a result of living out of non secure hangars. SO it wont be that easy. I just love the way the community comes together at times like this. Announce a corp thief, "ah your problem you deserved it". And quit insulting me, i have a life, a very very good one. The bottom line is, i didnt loose that much, but my corp mates did and i have the human ability to be empathetic with them as it has hurt some quite a bit. Its quite a pity Darkelf you dont have this ability too and see the **ty actions of one player completely setting back a corp. You have all been warned about this guy. G`luck. oh i can see that totally and i can be sympathetic but when u come on the forums with a thread like this u lose any currency you have with us evil forums ***s. Firsly you say you are breaking the game rules and don't care about it. Also you say that it's no big deal and will recover easily then make it out like your corps having a mental breakdown Plus, you presumably knew all this before u put all those things at the pos and knew the risks and u know that eve is a game like that. and that isn't a mistake by ccp for allowing ppl to do that. it is the way that the vast majority of it's subscribers like it. DE
kublai Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:14:00 - [19] The community is coming together, infact i'm fondling Darkelf's ass right now (it's very tight, and them veto boys are ****s, known fact tbh). The community comes together against those who would treathen the game we love, the crying whining little carebears like you.
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:14:00 - [20] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Edited by: 3rdD Dave on 25/03/2007 02:51:22 Estimated to have stolen 3-5 Billion in ISk. Either way EASILY recovered by our corp.. EASILY Official corp announcement.. Get your self into a hard core PVP corp to protect yourself.. Every single corp you join will be wardecced by Dark Entropy.. and trust me m8, we have a good rep in EVE at what we do. **ing scum like you should be drowned at birth. OK, easily recovered Originally by:** 3rdD Dave Well we are stopping him from leaving the corp via roles. Yes yes, this is greifing.. I dont care. CCp allow legal greifing thru their game via the game mechanics. Im just going to return the favor, via their game mechanics. OK, you don't care. Originally by: 3rdD Dave Well they will have to ban me then and 5 other ceos. At this point i dont care. Right... so you and your five CEO:s don't care, gotcha. Tell me, if you will recover so easily, don't care, and the target's going to die. Why are you moving out of the region, and making all this noise about it? // ORE MONGERS // Recruiting now.
Terra Mauter Reflex.	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:17:00 - [21] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin ... Because he can't, its a real loss but hes not man enough to admit he handed everything over so stupidily, so he comes to forums to whine. Get a life @ OP. DarkElf has said everything I want to add to this thread.
Vrabac Amarr Shadowed Souls	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:25:00 - [22] Originally by: 3rdD Dave ****ing scum like you should be drowned at birth. Am I the only one who noticed this? I mean yes, this game can really upset people, I know it very well, but geeeeeeez...
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:26:00 - [23] Originally by: 3rdD Dave i have a life, a very very good one. Who is it you're trying to convince here? // ORE MONGERS // Recruiting now.
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:29:00 - [24] Originally by: kublai The community is coming together, infact i'm fondling Darkelf's ass right now (it's very tight, and them veto boys are ****s, known fact tbh). The community comes together against those who would treathen the game we love, the crying whining little carebears like you. you know us well DE
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:33:00 - [25] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Nope. I honestly dont care, this game has caused an immense amount of stress for some ppl right now because of his actions. CCP has provided the tool that allows one player to hurt another, so they share the responsibility. Why should this action be allowed in the game? The top ceo has decided that we are moving out of the drone region because of it. The amount of duress involved moving a huge operation at a POS is incredibly stressful in itself. Theres is no real security at a POS. You simply cannot trust everyone as past events has shown from other corps. You know they also gave us guns? ----- Don't add a pool to sell a house. Fix the windows. Fixed it. Happy? Quite . -HornFrog
David H'Levi Sniggerdly	Posted - 2007.03.25 11:54:00 - [26] Originally by: 3rdD Dave The bottom line is, i didnt loose that much, but my corp mates did and i have the human ability to be empathetic with them as it has hurt some quite a bit. Its quite a pity Darkelf you dont have this ability too and see the ***ty actions of one player completely setting back a corp. That's the point, dude. You're the CEO - You're charged with the security of your members' joint assets. If you don't have the time to do simple things like simple background checks before exposing billions of those assets to risk of theft, then you have a problem and should probably step down. Anything else is just letting your members down when they get robbed. As much as you may love me, your signature must pertain to your* in-game persona, and thus I must remove it. -Conuion Meow
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.25 14:16:00 - [27] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/03/2007 14:13:48 Originally by: 3rdD Dave Well they will have to ban me then and 5 other ceos. At this point i dont care. You don't care because you are an egotistical b*stard. You are in the leadership of an alliance, you and the other CEO's have a duty to the members of that alliance, if you are willing to sacrifice you're chars - the very leadership of the alliance, to go after a guy you just mentioned "did a theft that was immediately replaced" than you have the IQ of a brain-dead squirrel - not to mention being a hypocrit too. You have a duty to you're corp and you're alliance members, not to you're ego. PS: I'm sorry for the loss, but you should have asked his former CEO. I don't have much experience in eve, not that old as most players here but that employment list screams spy/corp-thief/individual who can't commit. Either of them is an undesirable in a corp. GL and i hope the corp/alliance recovers fast. -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
3rdD Dave Gallente Dark Entropy Apocalyptica.	Posted - 2007.03.25 14:21:00 - [28] Nope i don't care because i care for my friends. Id rather make his last days in our corp a misery leaving and get banned that do nothing obviously like the rest of you. Anyways, i have concrete evidence that he was account sharing. So please don't give me crap about rules. WE did nothing wrong from the onset. Take your hostile remarks and point towards a player who routinely screws over innocent ppl who DO abide by the rules.
Aragog Caldari Dark Entropy	Posted - 2007.03.25 14:28:00 - [29] Where was the rule book that said you cannot steal.
monkeyduck Mithril Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.25 14:34:00 - [30] Edited by: monkeyduck on 25/03/2007 14:31:17 Originally by: Vrabac Originally by: 3rdD Dave ****ing scum like you should be drowned at birth. Am I the only one who noticed this? I mean yes, this game can really upset people, I know it very well, but geeeeeeez... Meh, simple fact that the world would be better if certain individuals were never born (or drowned at birth). The OP feels this guy is one of them; perhaps he is right, who knows. I have my own list for when I can time travel, but I can afford to waste a space on my list for the thief There should be a more direct way of punishing these individuals. Sure you can pod them ad infinitum, but unless they are complete and utter morons there is no way to reobtain what was lost from them and in the end the only profit to be obtained by redirecting your efforts is revenge. While role griefing shouldn't be permitted, employers should be able to tag members employment history with things such as "Thief." Make them a tad more distinguished when seeking new employment (prey). Edit: Account sharing? There ya go, take care of him that way.
Setana Manoro Gallente Firefly Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.25 14:45:00 - [31] Edited by: Setana Manoro on 25/03/2007 14:45:58 Originally by: 3rdD Dave Nope i don't care because i care for my friends. Id rather make his last days in our corp a misery leaving and get banned that do nothing obviously like the rest of you. Anyways, i have concrete evidence that he was account sharing. So please don't give me crap about rules. WE did nothing wrong from the onset. Take your hostile remarks and point towards a player who routinely screws over innocent ppl who DO abide by the rules. Corp theft is allowed by CCP, if he did corp theft on you, it is by YOU'RE own fault. You have let down you'r corp and you'r alliance. First by allowing him in, then by giving him acces and 3rd by saying screw this and killing even further you're alliance. He may have stole 4b in whatever from you're corp, but it was through you're own actions that he was able to do this, and you're alliance is going down through you're actions. I don't understand how someone like you ended up in the leadership anyway. A person who has no ideea about game mechanics and who has so far screwed over more ppl than the corp thief has done. So the corp thief has done damage to you're corp, how is this any different than what you are doing right now, by preventing him to leave. Well, he can petition the entire leadership, have you all banned, and the alliance will probably have an even greater loss just there. PS: If you have concrete evidence of account sharing than petition him asap. Again i am sorry for the loss the corp sustained and the alliance, but i am no longer sorry for the loss you sustained. -------------------------------------------------- http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swfAlways look on the bright side
Payne Bringer Minmatar M.A.D.	Posted - 2007.03.25 15:26:00 - [32] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Anyways, i have concrete evidence that he was account sharing. So please don't give me crap about rules. WE did nothing wrong from the onset. Take your hostile remarks and point towards a player who routinely screws over innocent ppl who DO abide by the rules. Be very very careful about accusations you throw around mate. I don't condone his actions in any way at all, but I know the guy in real life and I know he doesn't share his account with anyone. As far as I am aware: - you have been trying to track him down irl - you have stopped him from leaving your corp - you have made real life threats against him None of the above are acceptable in my opinion and I suspect CCP may think so too. At the end of the day, this is a player who is a known corp thief (check the forums, he has done it before) that you let into your corp. If you are surprised when he steals stuff then that's bad management on your part. However, I can see how you might be annoyed at the game mechanics that allow someone to shuttle 10-20 reasonably valuable ships from a POS without needing some form of access rights (you were lucky he couldn't fly a carrier, from what I understand!) - perhaps the ability to lock down ships in some way at a POS so only the owner or a POS-manager can move them might be a useful feature (won't help you now but might help people in general in future)? You are taking this way too seriously and way too personally and, if you continue to act the way you are, you are going to lose a lot of respect and possibly your account. That'd be a shame because while I think you are over-reacting, you obviously care about the game and you clearly have a strong sense of responsibility, as any CEO or director should, for their corp. Payne
Jollyreaper Gallente Ace Adventure Corp	Posted - 2007.03.25 17:24:00 - [33] Wow, and I thought I was ticked losing a Mega to full room agro and lag last night. Thing is, my corpmates are already planning to help me build a new one. That's teamplay. I can't imagine losing billions to a mistake but I know it has to be a gutting experience. Might want to take some time away so you can get perspective.
1tommo1	Posted - 2007.03.25 21:45:00 - [34] maybe if you used the forums at other times instead of just for your carebear crying sessions you would know that aragog is repeatedly mentioned as being a known corp thief ......schoolboy error methinks.....hi to all those who for some reason think im ara's alt
Heikki Gallente Wreckless Abandon	Posted - 2007.03.25 23:56:00 - [35] Originally by: 3rdD Dave we have a good rep in EVE at what we do. Thanks you for the warning; good to know you are on your way to speedy recovery. You sure he didn't use any exploits or such? I mean, -9.9 character who has been in some 30 corps gets access to remarkable sum (3 billions for you) in less than 12 days? Surely it was some hack from his part. Some people do get upset for dying in their Empire hauler when they didn't sought for combat; some people act the same when facing betrayal. That kind of freedom is addiction for some us; hopefully those who don't like such harsh world will find some other game suiting them better. -Lasse
Irvin Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.26 08:30:00 - [36] Aragog has been in my corp also, and i'll say this..... Yeh he's a cheaky chap that's for sure, yeh he did a few things that raised an eyebrow. but all in all a nice guy, never stole or attempted to from us. There was NO evidence of him breaking the rules (account sharing ect) or anything like that....
Vagra Minmatar DMC Corp	Posted - 2007.03.26 08:39:00 - [37] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Edited by: 3rdD Dave on 25/03/2007 02:51:22 Estimated to have stolen 3-5 Billion in ISk. Either way EASILY recovered by our corp.. EASILY Official corp announcement.. Get your self into a hard core PVP corp to protect yourself.. Every single corp you join will be wardecced by Dark Entropy.. and trust me m8, we have a good rep in EVE at what we do. ****ing scum like you should be drowned at birth. Lets face it with that much cash you'll probably find him to the following 1. Deleting his char and using another which he has been training up 2. Selling his char and buying another one 3. Staying in a noob corp and enjoying spending the money in other words theres nothing you can do ... So all in all forget about it and move on
Bailian Moxtain Toys R Us	Posted - 2007.03.26 08:59:00 - [38] Aragog still love yah! *- made in Norway -*
MinPuFF Minmatar R.U.S.T. Kith of Venal	Posted - 2007.03.26 09:18:00 - [39] Dave, WETRAIN said you should mail him about your current goat status
Obvious Private	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:25:00 - [40] Originally by: 3rdD Dave LOL we are hard corp pirates as well.. its what we do, and don't get me started on Psychology, anyways ;IMHO this action should be a ban-able offense Somebody call the waaaaaaaambulance, because I hear a lot of crying! There's no reason this should be a bannable offense. YOU gave him access to do this, so YOUR the real offender here. These threads should have their own category, so people interested in the crying can all form a support group to make themselves feel better about their own stupidity. I love how Dave says "WE CAN MAKE IT BACK EASILY", but follows it up with "CCP CAN BAN ME AND ALL OUR DIRECTORS" because he wants to grief this thief. Sounds like the thief wins, and your whole corp loses.
Crinos Childflayer	Posted - 2007.03.26 16:40:00 - [41] Aragog: Nicely done, you've done it right if they whine this much. 3rdD Dave: WAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! "The flesh slipped from between his fingers. The blood pooled all around him. This was the beginning." -The Beginning of The End
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:31:00 - [42] Originally by: Vagra Originally by: 3rdD Dave Edited by: 3rdD Dave on 25/03/2007 02:51:22 Estimated to have stolen 3-5 Billion in ISk. Either way EASILY recovered by our corp.. EASILY Official corp announcement.. Get your self into a hard core PVP corp to protect yourself.. Every single corp you join will be wardecced by Dark Entropy.. and trust me m8, we have a good rep in EVE at what we do. ****ing scum like you should be drowned at birth. Lets face it with that much cash you'll probably find him to the following 1. Deleting his char and using another which he has been training up 2. Selling his char and buying another one 3. Staying in a noob corp and enjoying spending the money in other words theres nothing you can do ... So all in all forget about it and move on Maybe there will be a 4thDave someday, whining about someone stealing his car he left with the keys in the door which was open in the middle of the slums of Bronx. // ORE MONGERS // Recruiting now.
monkeyduck Mithril Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.26 19:49:00 - [43] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Maybe there will be a 4thDave someday, whining about someone stealing his car he left with the keys in the door which was open in the middle of the slums of Bronx. As far as hideously flawed analogies go: you win.
Redback911	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:18:00 - [44] Aragog will be rejoining Phoenix Navy soon I think, with a hearty welcome due to the volume of wardecs he's gonna fetch us. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE wardec ASAP. We're in Sahtogas by the way, and all rather defenceless. Honest.
B1G DAVE Mining and Research Industrial Organisation Hell Hounds	Posted - 2007.03.27 00:23:00 - [45] So your flaming him for stealing things from you....and then go on to say your hardcore pirates. And pirates make their living from stealing stuff from other people.... ahem
Tobias Sjodin Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.27 17:29:00 - [46] Originally by: monkeyduck Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Maybe there will be a 4thDave someday, whining about someone stealing his car he left with the keys in the door which was open in the middle of the slums of Bronx. As far as hideously flawed analogies go: you win. Nope. // ORE MONGERS // Recruiting now.
Mutant Caldari Caldari VSP Corp. R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.27 17:40:00 - [47] Can I have your stuff before your banned? Yeah I am a pirate.What are you gonna do about it?
Mr Cleann	Posted - 2007.03.29 21:12:00 - [48] Ask you not to pirate from me
Mr Cleann	Posted - 2007.03.29 21:20:00 - [49] Any corp that is foolish enough to not have a rigourous security check system in place tp prevent corp theft. IMO gets exactly what they deserve... I had my corp robbed 2x before I finally wised up and found a way to prevent theft outright. ATM the only hanger that is accessable is the general equipment bays. Everything from ammo on up to ships and named / high end items are kept in a HIGH secured hanger setup with station where houses. There is no reason why people need to complain and whine about how there corp was robbed. Not with CCP making possible to place 100% security on your stuff. its rediculous (note to grammer ****s that word as well as many others may be misspelled..get over it I did). If you want the security then you will figure out ways to make it work. Its not rocket science.
Jex Jast Go for the booty	Posted - 2007.03.29 21:23:00 - [50] Originally by: monkeyduck Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Maybe there will be a 4thDave someday, whining about someone stealing his car he left with the keys in the door which was open in the middle of the slums of Bronx. As far as hideously flawed analogies go: you win. I disagree, I find it to be a pretty good analogy. ----- :::Need to be cleaned::: Sorry mods, hijack removed - blame the sig length limit. I thought you just didnt love us anymore - Tim
Muhaar Gemeinian Armee der Finsternis	Posted - 2007.03.29 22:03:00 - [51] Thought i saw that guy in Caldari Provisions today and was thinking 'Ooh a lonely outlaw!'. He's a quick runner though even in a Armageddon.. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes - Devil ([email protected])
Aragog Caldari Phoenix Navy	Posted - 2007.04.02 00:07:00 - [52] It was a traveling setup, 35 jumps through low sec to where i wanted to go. If i didnt have stabs fitted i would have died in each ship i moved. So, sorry if i disappointed and didnt fight, but had 6 stabs fitted.
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.02 01:18:00 - [53] Ok Dave.... First you say "We can EASILY recover this, zomg its so EASY to recover it lololol we don't care. Then you come back with "I'm griefing him now in the hopes of getting banned because we're devastated. All I can say is that you had your bucket stolen.
Neon Genesis Gallente The Landed Gentry	Posted - 2007.04.02 01:40:00 - [54] You care way too much about this issue, and the game. You complain about the ability for players to hurt each other through a game mechanic and yet you profess to being a pirate. There are so many things wrong with your attitude and I could go on and on and on.
Atalius Vinelgo	Posted - 2007.04.02 01:51:00 - [55] Stop your whining girly man! Stealing is part of the game, pre-scan your members a little better, check into their previous corps.. set yourself a time limit before you give them righs to anything, get to know them.. get their address IRL so if they do, you can beat them down!!! You said 4 bill isk was nothing to you, yet you sure are whining a lot, seems like you are in denial :) Corp thieving is lame, but I am glad it is in the game, I love risk in games and that is why I play eve, gives me a rush!!! GIVE US MORE RISK EVE!!!!! YEAH BABY!
ChRy0 Mercury Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.02 16:09:00 - [56] All i can say is i'm proud to have had Ara in E.L.E, you show you are a true pirate once again, and i pity the fool who let himself get robbed.
Muhaar Gemeinian Armee der Finsternis	Posted - 2007.04.02 17:37:00 - [57] Originally by: Aragog It was a traveling setup, 35 jumps through low sec to where i wanted to go. If i didnt have stabs fitted i would have died in each ship i moved. So, sorry if i disappointed and didnt fight, but had 6 stabs fitted. Been there, done that.. don't blame ya.
Crinos Childflayer	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:14:00 - [58] My buckets!!! They stealing it! XD Anyway, said it once and I'll say it again: Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!! "The flesh slipped from between his fingers. The blood pooled all around him. This was the beginning." -The Beginning of The End
Palitir Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.02 19:28:00 - [59] Originally by: kublai The community is coming together, infact i'm fondling Darkelf's ass right now (it's very tight, and them veto boys are **s, known fact tbh). Yes.. Yes.. Let me setup the camera drones.. Originally by:** hango Quote: I find your views most intriguing and I would like to subscribe to your newsletter. I too find that this is relevant to my interests.
Fitz VonHeise United Connection's	Posted - 2007.04.02 21:45:00 - [60] Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 02/04/2007 21:43:12 Originally by: Setana Manoro Corp theft is allowed by CCP, if he did corp theft on you, it is by YOU'RE own fault. Yes Corp Theft is currently allowed by CCP... but that doesn't make the person who does it a nice person. It shows them as one who should be taken out whenever they are found. Why would anyone trust them into a Corp after that is beyond me. (Unless that Corp is just a bunch or 'dirt bags' too who would rip off their mother and brothers of anything they could) This started out as just an information post to tell anyone who would be concerned about Corp theft to avoid this person. Now we seem to have all the promoters of thievery swilling in their own verbal juice loving the evil deed this person has done. Sure the poster appears to be waffling on whether he cared or not when it happened. BUT THAT IS NOT THE POINT. The person who would stab their friends in the back (and did) is the point. And you want to have him in your Corp? Now I have a CEO alt and IÆve looked at the interface for Corp rolesà and it is really really hard to know what each of those things do. And there is no detailed manual on how to set those roles for various scenarios. And when this happens everyone blames the CEO for giving them rights and they steal billions. It is confusing enough in that interface that you could have thought you set it correctly but find out afterà that things ôwalkedö. Where is the manual from CCP explaining in detail how Corp roles work?
Swatcat Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2007.04.02 22:44:00 - [61] I can't talk for DE, but both me and him have fought along side Aragog in a previous corp and I have to say that I have no bad word to say against him... I have run into him recently and always pleasant, IF he robbed you then your corp had it's eye off the ball and really needs to be careful! Oh and this is ONLY a game! Swatcat Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum 'If you want peace prepare for war'
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.04.02 23:44:00 - [62] Originally by: Swatcat I can't talk for DE, but both me and him have fought along side Aragog in a previous corp and I have to say that I have no bad word to say against him... I have run into him recently and always pleasant, IF he robbed you then your corp had it's eye off the ball and really needs to be careful! Oh and this is ONLY a game! Swatcat DE lubs A4D And yeah Aragog ripped off my old corp and altho i was very disappointed in him (mainly for only getting the ammo hangar ) stealing is part of the game and the op has no1 to blame but themselves. my personal feelings towards aragog are mixed tbh but it doesn't change the fact that stealing is allowed and i'm glad he hasn't given some lame excuse for stealing like certain other ppl do which really ****es me off. Deal with it in game if u want to. But these kind of posts on this forum section always lead to 1 thing, and that's the op looking like a whiner. DE
Kua Immortal RSP Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.04 15:53:00 - [63] Haven't read the whole thread as it seems to be following a predictable pattern. I've been chatting with Aragog quite a bit today (I warped in on his Myrm - knowing full well I'd lose and he ransomed ME ^^), seems a very likable chappy. I spitted my hooch all over my TFT screen when he told me about his corp theft. I can't imagine ever doing that, for me its a step too far. But Dave doesn't have the right to complain about something when they didn't take the necessary steps to avoid it. That said, come on people, you'd be ****ed if you lost a bunch of stuff too :P. I think you're too hard on Dave for venting his frustration.
carleyjones Caldari Blood and Silver	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:04:00 - [64] i believe phoenix navy are still waiting for their war dec....
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:06:00 - [65] Originally by: carleyjones i believe phoenix navy are still waiting for their war dec.... empty threats ftl DE courtesy of Raggii
Wesley Baird Ever Flow FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.04 17:15:00 - [66] Originally by: Mr Cleann Edited by: Mr Cleann on 29/03/2007 21:42:37 Any corp that is foolish enough to not have a rigourous security check system in place tp prevent corp theft. IMO gets exactly what they deserve... I had my corp robbed 2x before I finally wised up and found a way to prevent theft outright. ATM the only hanger that is accessable is the general equipment bays. Everything from ammo on up to ships and named / high end items are kept in a HIGH secured hanger setup with station where houses. There is no reason why people need to complain and whine about how there corp was robbed. Not with CCP making possible to place 100% security on your stuff. its rediculous (note to grammer ****s that word as well as many others may be misspelled..get over it I did). If you want the security then you will figure out ways to make it work. Its not rocket science. As for war dec every corp in eve that the corp thief joins is really dumb lol. I'd laugh if every corp in eve war dec you just for saying that comment. I see you've never lived out of a POS!
Trask Kilraen The Older Gamers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.04.05 13:46:00 - [67] The OP makes a me giggle a bit... First he goes to great pains to explain how 3-5 bill loss is EASILY recovered by his corp. EASILY. The he goes on to say how they will hunt down the scum to the ends of the star cluster. WTF? Either the loss means nothing, in which case, you grief the loser a few times and forget about it, or it wasa big hit to the corp, and the corp thieving scum deserves a long painful death by nano-torturers. Don't be wishy-washy... pick one and go for it! P.S. - If 3-5 Bill really means so much to your corp... send it to me. I'll happily let you wardec my corp for that!
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.05 13:50:00 - [68] Originally by: Trask Kilraen The OP makes a me giggle a bit... you sound italian DE courtesy of Raggii
Rutefly Amarr Freedom-Technologies	Posted - 2007.04.05 14:34:00 - [69] Did i just read something as idiotic as "he doesnt have the right to complain" about a corp theft ?!!! Now the cespool scumbags can demand respect through the voice of this so called community ? What a messed up world we live in. OMGCOPTER!111 Sometimes the masses really are stupid.
Drunk Driver Gallente	Posted - 2007.04.05 15:57:00 - [70] Originally by: 3rdD Dave LOL we are hard corp pirates as well.. Pirates stealing from pirates..... Priceless.....
Silver Sheath	Posted - 2007.04.05 18:57:00 - [71] Originally by: Drunk Driver Originally by: 3rdD Dave LOL we are hard corp pirates as well.. Pirates stealing from pirates..... Priceless..... Favorite quote of all time: "You cheated!" "Pirate..."
Mayoz Miner Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.05 21:48:00 - [72] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Edited by: 3rdD Dave on 25/03/2007 02:51:22 ****ing scum like you should be drowned at birth. Something wrong there . Not read the rest of the posts but if it goes on in the same vein as this well..... Scamming = part of EVE if every newb come to the forums with the scams they have had done to them it would be chaos. If the game makes you this upest then you should take a break and get a new perspective for awhile.
sharkyballs Amarr Dkiller Delta Force Corp.	Posted - 2007.04.05 21:50:00 - [73] Edited by: sharkyballs on 05/04/2007 21:48:02 he's been in and around low sec essence lately if you need to know. we've had a little fun with them after they wardeced us http://ww2.dkill-corp.net:8888/killboard/index.php?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=1
DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.04.05 23:34:00 - [74] Originally by: Rutefly What a messed up world we live in. OMGCOPTER!111 tis true. that's why me and many others love eve. DE courtesy of Raggii
Darqion Zenix	Posted - 2007.04.06 13:30:00 - [75] i dare say all these people saying "its just a game" havent lost A TON of stuff because 1 person decided it was fun to do so. in a game like this, where industry plays such a large role, some forms of stress are normal and not all stress is bad. corp theft is sad, and it being "allowed" doesnt make it ok. only people who had it never happen to them, or do it themselves, would say that it is. i think CCPs idea of pvp is rather stupid if they include this as just that sadly its always the people who dont care about others that ruin a game. in wow it was bored 60s in lvl 20 zones "pvping". thats about as much pvp as it is to drag and drop the corp hanger.
Aragog Caldari Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.04.06 16:06:00 - [76] want cheese with that whine?
Silver Sheath	Posted - 2007.04.06 20:39:00 - [77] Edited by: Silver Sheath on 06/04/2007 20:35:50 Originally by: Aragog want cheese with that whine? How about a WAAHHmburger and some French Cries? lol THERE ARE WAYS TO SECURE YOUR CORPS ASSETS. CORP THEFT IS NOT UNAVOIDABLE. Thats like complaining to the police that you should be able to leave your back door unlocked without fear of having your stuff stolen.
LoganFire Amarr Quam Singulari Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.09 13:51:00 - [78] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Edited by: 3rdD Dave on 25/03/2007 02:52:44 This is Dave your talking to. Im pretty regimented once i start something. Either way.. G`luck Eve denizens.. you have been warned about this guy. For god sake get a life its only a game and if ur pirates u should now know how it feels when some one takes what is rightfully yours. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Hango ([email protected])
Redback911	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:56:00 - [79] We're thinking of disbanding the corp, we're THAT disappointed in the OP.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:21:00 - [80] I bet he's trembling in his boot. Were I him, I'd just join a newb corp, and spend your 5 billion. -K Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Karlemgne The Black Fleet Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.09 18:23:00 - [81] Originally by: Darqion Zenix i dare say all these people saying "its just a game" havent lost A TON of stuff because 1 person decided it was fun to do so. in a game like this, where industry plays such a large role, some forms of stress are normal and not all stress is bad. corp theft is sad, and it being "allowed" doesnt make it ok. only people who had it never happen to them, or do it themselves, would say that it is. i think CCPs idea of pvp is rather stupid if they include this as just that sadly its always the people who dont care about others that ruin a game. in wow it was bored 60s in lvl 20 zones "pvping". thats about as much pvp as it is to drag and drop the corp hanger. Don't be stupid with corp assets. Easy as that to avoid losing 5 BILLION. -Karl Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free.
Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:10:00 - [82] I lol'd Originally by: Splagada SEED ME DADDY Down with alts! One character per account per IP!
jerrard iceni Knights of Chaos Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:24:00 - [83] Edited by: jerrard iceni on 09/04/2007 22:21:54 Originally by: sharkyballs Edited by: sharkyballs on 05/04/2007 21:48:02 he's been in and around low sec bleaklands lately if you need to know. we had a little fun with them, so they wardeced us but we ran off to high sec until the war was overd corrected for you
Aragog Caldari Phoenix Navy Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:25:00 - [84] roflmao
1tommo1 Caldari Task Force Zener Rogue Method Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:52:00 - [85] ARAGOG IF A F***ING PIEWATE WANNABE NOOB!!! i believe he also stole their warp core stabalizer bpo!!! hi ara
Silver Sheath	Posted - 2007.04.09 22:54:00 - [86] I would say that 3rdD Dave got owned, but that would be redundant. That would be very, very, very redundant. Redundant.
Alsten Back Home In Time For Tea And Medals The Volition Cult	Posted - 2007.04.09 23:45:00 - [87] Originally by: 3rdD Dave Edited by: 3rdD Dave on 25/03/2007 02:51:22 Estimated to have stolen 3-5 Billion in ISk. Either way EASILY recovered by our corp.. EASILY Official corp announcement.. Get your self into a hard core PVP corp to protect yourself.. Every single corp you join will be wardecced by Dark Entropy.. and trust me m8, we have a good rep in EVE at what we do. ****ing scum like you should be drowned at birth. Lol it is preety obvius that you care. Look at what you said..Thanks for the warning but it is a part of the game.

Teekay Fortuwun Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.04.10 01:19:00 - [88] Locked. I think this thread has run its course. ~Teekay forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website


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