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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.10.25 17:50:06 -
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https://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/caldari-megacorps-lead-military-cloning-efforts-as-kaalakiota-and-sukuuvestaa-provide-support-to-caldari-navy/
Quote: New Caldari GÇô Leading megacorporations Kaalakiota and Sukuuvestaa have announced they are providing technical, logistical and material support to the Caldari Navy, "in order to facilitate the most rapid uptake of advances in cloning technology for the security of the Caldari people and the preservation of our way of life".
Usually positioned as great rivals in the complex corporate politics of the Caldari State, the Kaalakiota and Sukuuvestaa megacorps are generally considered to be the most powerful players in their respective corporate factions: the Patriots and the Practicals. While the attention of the so-called Liberals bloc, led by the Ishukone megacorp, has been focused on the redevelopment of Caldari Prime and expanding interstellar trade, the megacorps of the Patriots and Practicals have been engaged in considerable efforts to diversify and develop their interests within the Caldari State.
Some observers of Caldari State politics believe that a nascent corporate war is "bubbling under the surface", as Iesa Murikomo, host of popular Caldari news show This Is The State, puts it. The last 12 months have seen a noticeable increase in acts of sabotage, piracy and sanctioned, while limited, corporate warfare within the State's borders and involving its extraterritorial interests.
For their part, the Kaalakiota and Sukuuvestaa megacorps have stated their "total commitment to supporting the institutions of the State and the vibrant competitiveness of corporate life, the very foundation of our people's prosperity". The Caldari Navy has confirmed its "close co-operation with the respected and vital Kaalakiota and Sukuuvestaa Corporations" and expressed "deep support" for the leading role all Caldari megacorps are taking in "enhancing the security of the State through their corporate security forces' cloning programs".
Tibus Heth might be dead, but his deeds and ideas are alive, even rival Corporations are working together to protect the State.
Glory to the State!
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
8797
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Posted - 2016.10.25 17:58:28 -
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Hm! I'm surprised Zainou wasn't able to secure some stake in this venture, given their significant share of the existing cloning market! Perhaps there is some licencing going on in the background.
Either way, an interesting development. I remain wary of a probably Sanctuary-developed technology, but that it was devolved to corporate oversight does at least a bit to assuage my concerns.
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
60
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Posted - 2016.10.25 18:52:12 -
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YOU DON'T NEED TO YELL KIM I THINK WE ALL CAN HEAR YOU JUST FINE
"The laws of the Federation were written for the good of the many. Not the good of the Gallente nor the good of the Caldari. Hopefully, we can help them remember this." -Fronte Belliare
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
572
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Posted - 2016.10.25 22:41:54 -
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Quote:Some observers of Caldari State politics believe that a nascent corporate war is "bubbling under the surface", as Iesa Murikomo, host of popular Caldari news show This Is The State, puts it. The last 12 months have seen a noticeable increase in acts of sabotage, piracy and sanctioned, while limited, corporate warfare within the State's borders and involving its extraterritorial interests.
Tasty! One would assume details wouldn't reach the major news outlets and half of them would be false or a spin anyway...
Let's try Scope for anything remotely relevant and solid for the last year or so, shall we?
That one's out of the time frame, probably something else, but still a bold thing.
Caldari Prime developments.
This one odd thing.
Which took them around a month to solve.
A lot of attention was devoted to the influx of refugees from Northern regions after these armed conflicts in null.
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xXuber-NitsheXx
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Posted - 2016.10.25 23:40:27 -
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What Diana Kim did not mention due her modesty is the REAL news story. Due to my complimenting lack of modesty I will give full disclosure:
When the peak Caldari corporations cast around for the most super DNA, to represent the most super male and female in their cloning programme. They chose none other than our beloved Diana and myself.
Yes the next generation of Caldari will look and act like us. More of the same through-out Empire but over 1000 K fold. You will not escape our mannerisms, faces nor communications. Like one big Diana/Nitshe collective mind. How great is that!
Now I know Diana will deny this fantastic news due her built in humility, but when the first batch of clones arrive - you will know...
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1706
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Posted - 2016.10.26 01:14:07 -
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xXuber-NitsheXx wrote:What Diana Kim did not mention due her modesty is the REAL news story. Due to my complimenting lack of modesty I will give full disclosure: When the peak Caldari corporations cast around for the most super DNA, to represent the most super male and female in their cloning programme. They chose none other than our beloved Diana and myself. Yes the next generation of Caldari will look and act like us. More of the same through-out Empire but over 1000 K fold. You will not escape our mannerisms, faces nor communications. Like one big Diana/Nitshe collective mind. How great is that! Now I know Diana will deny this fantastic news due her built in humility, but when the first batch of clones arrive - you will know...
Quote sources or go eat a pile of dung.
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xXuber-NitsheXx
82
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Posted - 2016.10.26 02:02:16 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:xXuber-NitsheXx wrote:What Diana Kim did not mention due her modesty is the REAL news story. Due to my complimenting lack of modesty I will give full disclosure: When the peak Caldari corporations cast around for the most super DNA, to represent the most super male and female in their cloning programme. They chose none other than our beloved Diana and myself. Yes the next generation of Caldari will look and act like us. More of the same through-out Empire but over 1000 K fold. You will not escape our mannerisms, faces nor communications. Like one big Diana/Nitshe collective mind. How great is that! Now I know Diana will deny this fantastic news due her built in humility, but when the first batch of clones arrive - you will know... Quote sources or go eat a pile of dung.
KK, was sitting at a board meeting with my family. Insider info and primary source.
Yes my family is rich n powerful, Way of the universe. Enjoy your 'dung' primitive peon.
( how does it taste, do tell, never tried?)
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1707
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Posted - 2016.10.26 02:34:43 -
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It tastes exactly like the drivel you have spouted. I am very sure you made your white-collar highly-ranked KK employee family very proud, acting like a Gallente slanderous hedonist rather than a true and proper Patriot as you did.
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xXuber-NitsheXx
82
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Posted - 2016.10.26 02:59:39 -
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Elmund Egivand wrote:It tastes exactly like the drivel you have spouted. I am very sure you made your white-collar highly-ranked KK employee family very proud, acting like a Gallente slanderous hedonist rather than a true and proper Patriot as you did.
Say what you really mean. By the by something in your teeth, noooooooooo. Tell me dung is not your staple.
Here, have some rich moist chocolate cake dear.
You poor, poor, thing. How do you concentrate to fly on so few calories.
Have another slice of my friend the chocolate cake petal.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1707
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Posted - 2016.10.26 03:07:06 -
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xXuber-NitsheXx wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:It tastes exactly like the drivel you have spouted. I am very sure you made your white-collar highly-ranked KK employee family very proud, acting like a Gallente slanderous hedonist rather than a true and proper Patriot as you did. Say what you really mean. By the by something in your teeth, noooooooooo. Tell me dung is not your staple. Here, have some rich moist chocolate cake dear. You poor, poor, thing. How do you concentrate to fly on so few calories. Have another slice of my friend the chocolate cake petal.
I will say what I really mean then.
Your saliva is vomit, your words are dung and your tastes in things make harlots puke and eat a plasma shotgun.
And your father is a Gallente, your mother is also Gallente and your white-collar highly ranked KK-employee family adopted you to be their whipping post.
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xXuber-NitsheXx
82
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Posted - 2016.10.26 03:09:31 -
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Don't mince your words Elmund, express what you really feel. Go on let it all out.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1707
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Posted - 2016.10.26 03:10:32 -
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xXuber-NitsheXx wrote:Don't mince your words Elmund, express what you really feel. Go on let it all out.
Not mincing. Maybe look into the mirror and realise that nobody loves you. Or perhaps don't, because the truth hurts so much you will run back to your adopted KK family begging them to abuse you some more.
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xXuber-NitsheXx
82
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Posted - 2016.10.26 03:23:58 -
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That diet has you all blocked up. You are now just projecting your inner pain. (Side note kk is just my short hand for ok.)
You are killing me softly with your tears.
Hey I care, go on........
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Jason Galente
Hole Riders Spaceship Samurai
828
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Posted - 2016.10.26 03:50:58 -
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All this bromance, it's just like lowsec local.
Only the liberty of the individual assures the prosperity of the whole.
And this foundation must be defended.
At any cost
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
4332
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Posted - 2016.10.26 04:00:15 -
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Possibly a case of the existing big player being so focused on their established product lines that they fail to be alert for new opportunities to diversify.
Still, that's not necessarily a mistake: The emergent intel concerning these new clone developments doesn't give me any reason to believe that the new tech is going to render Zainou's lines obsolete, so much as offer an alternative.
I daresay the incentive provided by a little healthy competition will be a good thing.
AKA Hambone
Author of The Deathworlders
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1732
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Posted - 2016.10.26 05:19:53 -
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Cloned Caldari, eh ? Well, I suppose that's not that much of a step from the Tube Child program.
Now then, Civire are already difficult enough to distinguish from each other, how similar are these people going to look ?
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
2019
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Posted - 2016.10.26 05:55:42 -
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Iesa Morikomo seems to forget that there's always a corporate war brewing in the State, and alluding to one between KK and SuVee as the major players in the new military clone program is like saying snow is cold. |
Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
4332
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Posted - 2016.10.26 12:00:49 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Iesa Morikomo seems to forget that there's always a corporate war brewing in the State, and alluding to one between KK and SuVee as the major players in the new military clone program is like saying snow is cold.
Aren't there at least twenty ways to say that snow is cold in some old homeworld dialects?
AKA Hambone
Author of The Deathworlders
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
662
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Posted - 2016.10.26 12:46:02 -
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Stitcher wrote: Aren't there at least twenty ways to say that snow is cold in some old homeworld dialects?
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
2022
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Posted - 2016.10.26 12:57:15 -
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Stitcher wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:Iesa Morikomo seems to forget that there's always a corporate war brewing in the State, and alluding to one between KK and SuVee as the major players in the new military clone program is like saying snow is cold. Aren't there at least twenty ways to say that snow is cold in some old homeworld dialects?
More in the Eastern Oriyoni De'teeas I spoke before I learned standard Napanii since adjective and noun can combine into one word and context can vary on the tonal scale and inflection used in delivery to achieve desired connotation whether specific or obfuscating.
However, there's just as many words for vendetta and revenge, and no amount of media saccharine has ever hidden the little love lost between Kaalakiota and Sukuuvestaa ever since they tried to usurp Matias Sobaseki's vision.
I still can't decide whether SuVee's allowance of Achuran appropriation of Caldari cultural values is more or less worse than Ishukone's allowance of Minmatar appropriation of Caldari cultural values. I suppose in that, they're both equally terrible in promoting and enabling the dilution of culture, tradition, and history.
At least I can take solace, in exile as I am, that Kaalakiota will remain the steadfast bastion of the True Path even if the rest of the State seems to desire cultural denigration at the hands of foreigners and racial fifth columns.
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Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
573
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Posted - 2016.10.26 12:57:29 -
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Yarosara Ruil wrote:Next you will say that snow has at least fifty shades of white. Then people will start asking for documented proof, pictures and witnesses.
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Stitcher
Alexylva Paradox
4333
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Posted - 2016.10.26 13:01:04 -
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I still can't decide whether SuVee's allowance of Achuran appropriation of Caldari cultural values is more or less worse than Ishukone's allowance of Minmatar appropriation of Caldari cultural values. I suppose in that, they're both equally terrible in promoting and enabling the dilution of culture, tradition, and history.
"Appropriation?"
For me that would rather imply that they've taken something and will never give it back. Can culture be appropriated?
AKA Hambone
Author of The Deathworlders
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Persephone Alleile
Nocx Initiative Moist.
182
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Posted - 2016.10.26 16:29:03 -
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Stitcher wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I still can't decide whether SuVee's allowance of Achuran appropriation of Caldari cultural values is more or less worse than Ishukone's allowance of Minmatar appropriation of Caldari cultural values. I suppose in that, they're both equally terrible in promoting and enabling the dilution of culture, tradition, and history. "Appropriation?" For me that would rather imply that they've taken something and will never give it back. Can culture be appropriated? Have you met the Gallente? They are masters of cultural appropriation. |
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
2504
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Posted - 2016.10.26 16:59:14 -
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Stitcher wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I still can't decide whether SuVee's allowance of Achuran appropriation of Caldari cultural values is more or less worse than Ishukone's allowance of Minmatar appropriation of Caldari cultural values. I suppose in that, they're both equally terrible in promoting and enabling the dilution of culture, tradition, and history. "Appropriation?" For me that would rather imply that they've taken something and will never give it back. Can culture be appropriated?
Considering that it came in the form of having our cities taken, uplifted, and fully converted to Caldari corporate culture, I don't think "allowance of Achuran appropriation" is the "appropriate" term for what SuVee did.
They took our rulers-- which they were maybe a bit welcome to, actually; the old empire was not necessarily what you'd call nice-- and left us our monasteries as our highest civil authority. They took our urban centers and left us the countryside as a sort of cultural preserve (as long as we don't get in the way). To this day, we're a cross between poor cousins and a protected species on our own planet.
I don't share the bitterness of some of my colleagues about this. I'm not sure any other power would have been even a little bit careful not to just completely destroy our culture.
But the idea that we "appropriated" Caldari culture is an obscenity. SuVee "appropriated" what it pleased, and imposed Caldari culture on those it claimed.
The Caldari took our world. They just let us keep living on most of it. |
Elanion
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Posted - 2016.10.26 17:00:19 -
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Persephone Alleile wrote:Have you met the Gallente? They are masters of cultural appropriation. Case in point: Intaki. Within the Federation, they are free to exercise their own beliefs and practices, as are any other citizen regardless of bloodline or place of birth. If a second-generation Verge Vendor native, who happens to be Brutor, wants to observe Ida, not only are they free to do so but their right to do so is constitutionally protected. The originator and the appropriator have equal freedom to practice.
If you find that thought hard to stomach, imagine a Holy Amarr that spans from Omist to Branch, and recall their history for providing similar license.
RIP YC111-115 GÇó "The project discarded, its subjects forgotten... thence must the burden be shouldered."
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Bataav
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
346
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Posted - 2016.10.26 20:30:41 -
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Elanion wrote:Persephone Alleile wrote:Have you met the Gallente? They are masters of cultural appropriation. Case in point: Intaki. Within the Federation, they are free to exercise their own beliefs and practices, as are any other citizen regardless of bloodline or place of birth. If a second-generation Verge Vendor native, who happens to be Brutor, wants to observe Ida, not only are they free to do so but their right to do so is constitutionally protected. That's not the same thing.
If I, as an Intaki, observe the beliefs and practices of my heritage, that is one thing.
The Brutor in your example, discovering Ida and identifying with its philosophies, and exploring that Path with genuine intent is another.
But someone, having read a tourist copy of 'The Little Book of Ida', sitting in their dryweed smoke-filled quarters whilst contemplating their navel to the sounds of 'Greatest Idamic Chants Vol. 42', thinking they're going to be the next Idama, just because Placid spirituality happens to be the latest fad in their corner of the Federation? That's cultural appropriation.
The populist herd mentality in the Federation means its a common occurance, and while people may have the legal right to do so, they're often oblivious to the deep offense it causes, as they adopt and discard ethnic traditions on a whim, treating them as little more than fashion statements.
Bataav
Mahesha | Intaki Liberation Front & Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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xXuber-NitsheXx
94
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Posted - 2016.10.27 02:17:30 -
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Aria Jenneth wrote:Stitcher wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I still can't decide whether SuVee's allowance of Achuran appropriation of Caldari cultural values is more or less worse than Ishukone's allowance of Minmatar appropriation of Caldari cultural values. I suppose in that, they're both equally terrible in promoting and enabling the dilution of culture, tradition, and history. "Appropriation?" For me that would rather imply that they've taken something and will never give it back. Can culture be appropriated? Considering that it came in the form of having our cities taken, uplifted, and fully converted to Caldari corporate culture, I don't think "allowance of Achuran appropriation" is the "appropriate" term for what SuVee did. They took our rulers-- which they were maybe a bit welcome to, actually; the old empire was not necessarily what you'd call nice-- and left us our monasteries as our highest civil authority. They took our urban centers and left us the countryside as a sort of cultural preserve (as long as we don't get in the way). To this day, we're a cross between poor cousins and a protected species on our own planet. I don't share the bitterness of some of my colleagues about this. I'm not sure any other power would have been even a little bit careful not to just completely destroy our culture. But the idea that we "appropriated" Caldari culture is an obscenity. SuVee "appropriated" what it pleased, and imposed Caldari culture on those it claimed. The Caldari took our world. They just let us keep living on most of it.
The height of rudeness, not a single thankyou to your Caldari Liberators.
Some people have no respect for authority and advanced cultures.
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xXuber-NitsheXx
94
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Posted - 2016.10.27 02:33:26 -
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quote=Bataav
"The populist herd mentality in the Federation means its a common occurance, and while people may have the legal right to do so, they're often oblivious to the deep offense it causes, as they adopt and discard ethnic traditions on a whim, treating them as little more than fashion statements."
Ethnic traditions are merely fashion statements of a reactionary primitive tribe in a rut. Its our Caldari duty to push them out of that rut. Change that head scarf for a baseball cap. If we make a healthy profit along the way so be it.
If we appropriate that trendy tribal pattern and market it to the rest of Empire for a season that's smart Caldari business.
I'm more than happy for them to culturally appropriate our rigid Caldari copyright laws, if we don't impose them first.
Don't forget - might is right.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1716
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Posted - 2016.10.27 06:56:17 -
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Jaret Victorian wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:Next you will say that snow has at least fifty shades of white. Then people will start asking for documented proof, pictures and witnesses.
Don't go around referring the previous incident out of context. Nobody doubts that the Directive exists. What we doubt is that you can actually find the thing anywhere to read, because so many of us can't actually find it anywhere. Own up that you made a claim that the Directive can be found on the Galnet for reference and are unable to actually back up said claim instead of trying to change the topic into 'Oh, he doubts that the thing exists!'.
Let it be known that us Minmatar aren't interested in appropriating cultures, for most parts. What we are very interested in appropriating are technologies. Anyone who has interesting tech is bound to find said tech appropriated by us. We will do it without any shame. We have done it with missiles, we have done it with shields, we have also done it with drones. The only tech we won't actually appropriate are Amarr laser tech, and only out of principle (and the fact that our capacitors can't handle all that energy consumption).
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Noticed.
2024
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Posted - 2016.10.27 07:22:04 -
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Stitcher wrote:Can culture be appropriated?
Yes, such as with the Gallentean Cultural Deliverance Society and its attempted rapine of Caldari culture.
Aria Jenneth wrote:Stitcher wrote:Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:I still can't decide whether SuVee's allowance of Achuran appropriation of Caldari cultural values is more or less worse than Ishukone's allowance of Minmatar appropriation of Caldari cultural values. I suppose in that, they're both equally terrible in promoting and enabling the dilution of culture, tradition, and history. "Appropriation?" For me that would rather imply that they've taken something and will never give it back. Can culture be appropriated? Considering that it came in the form of having our cities taken, uplifted, and fully converted to Caldari corporate culture, I don't think "allowance of Achuran appropriation" is the "appropriate" term for what SuVee did. They took our rulers-- which they were maybe a bit welcome to, actually; the old empire was not necessarily what you'd call nice-- and left us our monasteries as our highest civil authority. They took our urban centers and left us the countryside as a sort of cultural preserve (as long as we don't get in the way). To this day, we're a cross between poor cousins and a protected species on our own planet. I don't share the bitterness of some of my colleagues about this. I'm not sure any other power would have been even a little bit careful not to just completely destroy our culture. But the idea that we "appropriated" Caldari culture is an obscenity. SuVee "appropriated" what it pleased, and imposed Caldari culture on those it claimed. The Caldari took our world. They just let us keep living on most of it.
I am well aware of what SuVee did to the Achur, and in my view it remains an act of colonialism in the best traditions of the Gallente. The tactics were exactly the same, the marginalization of the indigenous culture, the seizure of resources and industry, and the placing of local cronies into positions of power who will act in the interests of the colonizer and not their own people. Policies which over time leave the native population powerless and left only with the option to appropriate a foreign culture or face the vagaries of political marginalization, limited economic opportunity, and discrimination.
This as opposed to Kaalakiota where all are considered equal under the laws of the corporation to best pursue a greater good whilst maintaining a system of cultural apartheid where Caldari are Caldari; Achura are Achura; Intaki are Intaki; and so on. It is only by maintaining such clear racial and cultural segregation within the company that what occurred in Saisio under SuVee does not manifest itself within Kaalakiota. |
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