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Gaogan
Gallente
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.03.26 04:49:00 -
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I refer to corp theft. I thought it was CCP's position that it is up to the players to enforce their own rule of law, and punish corp thief scum themselves, but how are you supposed to do that when you can't catch them?
With no audit logs in place for corp hanger access, when things just go missing how are you supposed to find the thief and introduce them to the business end of some blasters? Why is it against policy for GMs to check the logs and tell you who to go kill?
I can appreciate the stance that they will not return the items, but if we are supposed to handle this ourselves, we need access to the audit logs. If continued, this policy will ruin the game for more and more people and cripples corporations.
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Gaogan
Gallente
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.03.26 14:28:00 -
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 Originally by: Novina Agrari
I sympathize. However, without audit logs in, consider changing the system you have for your corp hangars.
A great corp I was in operated under a donation rule. Basic hangar access was free, but had only the bare essentials in it. The next step up cost 50 million ISK, and had a nice variety to choose from. Of course, if you cleared out the hangar, odds were you'd be getting 50-75m ISK worth of stuff.
Not perfect, but hey, work with the rules as they exist.
We do operate something like that, so our loss in this case was small, and not something I am concerned about. What I AM concerned about is that the thieving scum is still in the corp and we have NO MEANS of identifying them and kicking them out. Barring them deciding to confess, they can simply keep stealing again and again with impunity.
This is entirely unacceptable from a customer service standpoint.
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Gaogan
Gallente
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.03.26 19:23:00 -
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Non sequitur, non sequitur, and non sequitur.
The issue is not about containing losses, keeping security tight, or using the audit log containers, which do not log put and take actions anyhow, and are not available in 0.0. This is simply about what to do when someone has abused their access.
In a corporation you have to trust people, so sooner or later you WILL be robbed. It is only a matter of time. There are things you can do to minimize the loss, the question is, what can you do to detect it when it happens, and boot the scum that did it?
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Gaogan
Gallente
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.03.27 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: AirWalker
if you were dumb enough to get your corp robbed you should have already lubed and grabbed your ankles
Again moron, there is nothing dumb about being victimized. Sooner or later it WILL happen. There is no way to be 100% sure of avoiding it. It is dealing with the aftermath that is the problem.
The Bill Orielly's of the world need not post their blame the victim BS. This is a question on CCP policy of intentionally not providing any means to detect an intruder and remove them.
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Gaogan
Gallente
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.03.27 14:52:00 -
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Originally by: Thomas Torquemada
Its all a trust thing, if you dont fully trust someone, dont give them access.
DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH. Please READ before posting stupid drivel. The question is what to do when someone abuses that trust. There is no way to find and remove them.
Trusting someone does not mean they will never betray you.
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Gaogan
Gallente
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.03.27 17:19:00 -
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Originally by: Grez
Use station cans. Not only useful for security reasons, but ace for keeping everything catagorised.
Reading before posting.
This has been suggested several times, and is completely beside the point. This issue is what to do AFTER the fact. Not to mention that station containers are not available in 0.0.
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Gaogan
Gallente
Solar Storm
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Posted - 2007.04.02 18:58:00 -
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Still waiting for a way to detect a corp thief. Or at least an official response from CCP confirming that they intended for thieves to be impossible to catch.
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