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Renox
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Celestial Apocalypse
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Posted - 2007.03.27 10:13:00 -
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Yes, I know there have been other topics, but couldn't seem to find them so started this one to share my great idea ;)
The idea came to me after a gang of 7 of my corp mates were DDed. A small gang like that shouldn't be a target worthy of a DDD so below I propose a few changes that might help that situation.
DDDs are IMO not what they should be. Right now they are pretty much kill-anything-in-sight weapons to be used at any and all oppotunities. There are no downsides to killing a 5 man gang with a DDD as it will probally be recharged before the next 5 man gang, let alone fleet, comes along. Someohow there has to be add an incentitive to save the DDD for when it is actually needed and the 1 hour timer or cost isn't doing it.
One way of doing it could be changing the recharge slightly. Instead of having it recharge fully in 1 hour it recharges in 24 1 hour steps (or whatever, 24 steps in 1 hour intevals were chosen as it gets the point across).
When a DDD is fired for the first time it does so for the full damage. The next time it can fire is 1 hour after, like now, but this time it will only do 1/24 of the damage compared to a fully charged shot. If the DDD is fired 12 hours after being fired it hits for half damage etc. with the timer resetting each time it is fired. So you would have to wait 24 hours before firing another fully powered shot. That would force the titan pilots to actually give some thought to when the DDD should be fired. It remove much of the DDing of small gangs and reserve it primerily for blobs, which is what they were made to counter I believe.
That would also stop the jumpin-DD-jumpout every hour stunt that has been done to stall sieges in systems where no other defenders were actually present.
Now the timer might just be 12 hours or the max dam of the weapon could be upped a bit to make it harder to tank a fully charged blast. A Titan should be a tactical weapon, something only deployed after serious thought. Not something used once per hour to gank small gangs, that's like killing gnats with atom bombs.
Any comments, additions, flames?
TheJay > grrr slow stupid garlic
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Loree
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Posted - 2007.03.27 10:15:00 -
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first in a ddd thread
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.03.27 10:18:00 -
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Sounds like a decent plan. Do we hold the DDD a bit longer for a larger blast, or do we want to weaken their fleet right now? Some good tactical choices to be made there.
However, 24hrs sounds too long. 12 is more like it.
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dalman
Finite Horizon
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Posted - 2007.03.27 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Renox
The idea came to me after a gang of 7 of my corp mates were DDed. A small gang like that shouldn't be a target worthy of a DDD...
And the solo tempest they were trying to gank was worthy of getting 10-1 ganked exactly how?
I really fail to follow your logics on that one...
But your suggestion is quite interesting and good. It could be good for gameplay.
The downside that I see in such a restriction, is how this would give further benefits to alliances with multiple titans. And I don't want to go further down that road.
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Posted - 2007.03.27 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Amitabh Bachchan on 27/03/2007 11:37:39
Perhaps the only change to DD's should be removal of the remote DD Facility. In other words the Titan has to be present on the battlefield if he wants to doomsday people. So far it is only 2-3 titan pilots that take their ships to the front line to fight, while everyone else hides them away in POS's.
With that said, I almost laughed that the two pilots well known for hiding their Titans and never taking it to the front line are actually the only two people to have lost titans.
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Seamus O'Malley
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Posted - 2007.03.27 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: Amitabh Bachchan
Edited by: Amitabh Bachchan on 27/03/2007 11:37:39
Perhaps the only change to DD's should be removal of the remote DD Facility. In other words the Titan has to be present on the battlefield if he wants to doomsday people. So far it is only 2-3 titan pilots that take their ships to the front line to fight, while everyone else hides them away in POS's.
With that said, I almost laughed that the two pilots well known for hiding their Titans and never taking it to the front line are actually the only two people to have lost titans.
Agreed, the titan is designed as a front ship, to damage the opponent severly while taking a heavy punishment but still surviving.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar
Guardians of the Dawn
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.03.27 11:46:00 -
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Originally by: Amitabh Bachchan
Edited by: Amitabh Bachchan on 27/03/2007 11:37:39
Perhaps the only change to DD's should be removal of the remote DD Facility. In other words the Titan has to be present on the battlefield if he wants to doomsday people. So far it is only 2-3 titan pilots that take their ships to the front line to fight, while everyone else hides them away in POS's.
With that said, I almost laughed that the two pilots well known for hiding their Titans and never taking it to the front line are actually the only two people to have lost titans.
that and making sure that DD use enough cap so that the titan cannot jump for several minutes after firing. Then it would be perfect, because a dread force prapared and awaiting, would be en0o0ugh of a deterrent,
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Posted - 2007.03.27 13:08:00 -
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Originally by: Renox
Yes, I know there have been other topics, but couldn't seem to find them so started this one to share my great idea ;)
The idea came to me after a gang of 7 of my corp mates were DDed. A small gang like that shouldn't be a target worthy of a DDD so below I propose a few changes that might help that situation.
DDDs are IMO not what they should be. Right now they are pretty much kill-anything-in-sight weapons to be used at any and all oppotunities. There are no downsides to killing a 5 man gang with a DDD as it will probally be recharged before the next 5 man gang, let alone fleet, comes along. Someohow there has to be add an incentitive to save the DDD for when it is actually needed and the 1 hour timer or cost isn't doing it.
One way of doing it could be changing the recharge slightly. Instead of having it recharge fully in 1 hour it recharges in 24 1 hour steps (or whatever, 24 steps in 1 hour intevals were chosen as it gets the point across).
When a DDD is fired for the first time it does so for the full damage. The next time it can fire is 1 hour after, like now, but this time it will only do 1/24 of the damage compared to a fully charged shot. If the DDD is fired 12 hours after being fired it hits for half damage etc. with the timer resetting each time it is fired. So you would have to wait 24 hours before firing another fully powered shot. That would force the titan pilots to actually give some thought to when the DDD should be fired. It remove much of the DDing of small gangs and reserve it primerily for blobs, which is what they were made to counter I believe.
That would also stop the jumpin-DD-jumpout every hour stunt that has been done to stall sieges in systems where no other defenders were actually present.
Now the timer might just be 12 hours or the max dam of the weapon could be upped a bit to make it harder to tank a fully charged blast. A Titan should be a tactical weapon, something only deployed after serious thought. Not something used once per hour to gank small gangs, that's like killing gnats with atom bombs.
Any comments, additions, flames?
Well this is what you can do in future time, whats great about titans is they give you big head syndrome, Take some people willing to lose there ships to a dd, then when the titan pilot is whinking he owns the field have a fleet of over 150 people at least jump in a *****him. DEcap, andbump the crap outta him. Yes I understand this comment will get flamed, by those who promote BHS.
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DubanFP
Caldari
Four Rings
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.27 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: DubanFP on 27/03/2007 13:05:07
Originally by: Amitabh Bachchan
So far it is only 2-3 titan pilots that take their ships to the front line to fight, while everyone else hides them away in POS's.
Do you even have any idea how many titan pilots there are in total? Probebly less then 10.
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Renox
Gallente
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.03.27 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: dalman
Originally by: Renox
The idea came to me after a gang of 7 of my corp mates were DDed. A small gang like that shouldn't be a target worthy of a DDD...
And the solo tempest they were trying to gank was worthy of getting 10-1 ganked exactly how?
I really fail to follow your logics on that one...
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my point with that is that it is the equallent of cynoing in a 30+ capital fleet to kill of the same group (in terms of overkill). It just shouldn't be worth doing.
TheJay > grrr slow stupid garlic
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Vincent Almasy
Gallente
The Underground
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Posted - 2007.03.27 16:23:00 -
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DD happens one ever other hour and the titan has to be there no cyno DD
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