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Don Jehova Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.28 11:15:00 - [1] After the nano nerf i've been thinking about which ship will take it's place as the nber 1v1 pwnzermobile, and would like to hear other inputs from other people. My thoughts would be the good old nos domi, but im also aware that my judgement is clouded since im a dedicated domi lover, and also not that experinced in 1v1 fighting.
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.28 11:17:00 - [2] domi was like always king of teh hill in solo pvp
Pharos Dei Amarr	Posted - 2007.03.28 11:36:00 - [3] nos domi has always been and sill is the 1vs1 pvp king, typhoon gave the name, but domi gave the bang of the nanofad too.. this flying turd has been overpowered eversince Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Hango ([email protected])
inSpirAcy The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2007.03.28 12:03:00 - [4] Even if CCP get round to nerfing nos, let's face it - the neut domi will take its place. (It won't tank endlessly but that's a minor advantage of the nos domi anyway.)
Fuglife Huff Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.28 12:10:00 - [5] Neutron Hpyerions, well maybe thats just me I know Welsh Wizard! 3rd Best pvper in Eve
Corwain Gallente Zero Team	Posted - 2007.03.28 12:23:00 - [6] My HeavyNeutronDomi setup is pretty powerful...18k armor, Mid 60s average resist, and 60 resist on hull. I have lost it once but that was my own stupid fault. I was fighting a Drake for 30mins hoping my AFK gang mate would come add the DPS needed to kill the darn thing. Finally a buddy of the Drake pilot showed up in a Typhoon. I tried to MWD away but the phoon tackled me. I was out of cap charges at this time and at 1/2 armor. I then proceeded to take the phoon to 25% structure before I finally popped (it was armor tanking, not nanoed.) Oh, my friend finally showed up in the last 60secs in a Blackbird instead of a Celestis. X-D Could have won if he had a Celestis as the Drake was out of ammo by this time.
smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.03.28 13:33:00 - [7] I'll take a nosdomi on in my gankamaelstrom ^^ sgb
Don Jehova Gallente	Posted - 2007.03.28 13:44:00 - [8] I would like to give that a try. Not sure you couldn't do it, but would like to see it. Have to dish out one hell of a dps to break a domi tank before getting nossed to death. Drone damage is not to bad either
AKULA UrQuan Caldari STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.03.28 13:57:00 - [9] About the only way to take out a good domi pilot 1v1 is to use an extreme gank setup or blast him with t2 damps so he can't nos in the first place.
LordChaos Amarr East Khanid Trading	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:05:00 - [10] geddon will *****the Domi everytime :) i can kill the domi before i use more than 2-3 cap boosters :) The Master Of Chaos Celes
Fuglife Huff Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:08:00 - [11] Originally by: LordChaos geddon will *****the Domi everytime :) i can kill the domi before i use more than 2-3 cap boosters :) lies. I know Welsh Wizard! 3rd Best pvper in Eve
Junara Minmatar Solar Wind Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:09:00 - [12] what is a neutron domi setup? I always figured ppl used all nos in the highs Max sig image dimensions are 400w x 120h and 24,000 byte file size. --Jorauk
Fuglife Huff Technologies	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:10:00 - [13] Edited by: Fuglife on 28/03/2007 14:06:38 Neutron domi setup is: 6 t2 neutrons sheild tank 3 damage mods + rcus Drones pretty useless unless your target is sitting outside a station undock point and needs to die in less then 10seconds I know Welsh Wizard! 3rd Best pvper in Eve
Keitaro Baka Babylon Scientific and Industrial Enterprises Babylon Project	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:10:00 - [14] Hmm 1v1 uberpwnmobiles eh.. motherships and titans are pretty hard to take down 1v1.. infact most capital ships are neigh impossible to take down 1v1.. sigh, 1v1 is fun to talk about and yes the dominix will prolly come out on top .. of course get just a single friend in the right ship and it might well be different .. I know you can build command ships up real well to take down a domi .. All the stuff above does not necessarily reflect my corp, my alliance or even me.. Drone guide..
VanNostrum	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:13:00 - [15] There is also the 1v1 capture the hill vagabond which i like
inSpirAcy The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:14:00 - [16] Maybe I should just clarify by "neut domi", I was referring to the neutraliser Dominix. It bites even harder than the nos domi at the expense of its tank (both capwise and in terms of fitting). I wouldn't go 1-on-1 with that in anything. Except another neut domi.
Jamius	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:34:00 - [17] Originally by: inSpirAcy Maybe I should just clarify by "neut domi", I was referring to the neutraliser Dominix. It bites even harder than the nos domi at the expense of its tank (both capwise and in terms of fitting). I wouldn't go 1-on-1 with that in anything. Except another neut domi. I'd question that. With 2 identically setup ships but for nuets instead of NOS (I know the fitting is diff but bare with me) the NOS ship will win. It maybe takes less cap off opponent but it is getting it back while the neut ship isn't and 1 heavy NOS makes up slightly more cap back than the extra a heavy nuet would take off an opponent compared to your own cap, each 24 sec nuet cycle. So overall the NOS player has more cap. I'm sure there is an easier way to say what I just said - but it's right. Nuets are very usefull if your against any opponent who heavily relies on cap and does v-high damage (ie quickly taking out their ability to fire is key to winning the fight) but all else being the same NOS>Nuet. Nuets are just great at devastating an enemies cap quickly - over time they lose out to NOS. Back to the best 1v1 BS or below ship - I plan to do some testing but the Raven is v.good. I tested a heavy neut setup against a NOS Domi and initially I won. The domi pilot changed setup slightly for more NOS and I lost. I've been meaning to test this again using NOS instead of neuts on my Raven but haven't gotten around to it yet - the only reason I lost the fight was because my cap gave out 1st due to using nuets - I'm pretty sure with NOS it would tip back in my favour. Point is - Domi is good, but it's not as far ahead as you think. Theoretically a SB setup with cap booster(s) to deal with NOS would kill all domi drones and leave it unable to break raven's tank, while Raven can happily keep firing - whether it breaks the Domi's tank is another thing - again un-tested but will be soon. Point is - many many setup combinations and I honestly don't think you can say 1BS pwns them all.
inSpirAcy The Solopwnmobiles	Posted - 2007.03.28 14:54:00 - [18] Edited by: inSpirAcy on 28/03/2007 14:51:00 Originally by: Jamius With 2 identically setup ships but for nuets instead of NOS (I know the fitting is diff but bare with me) the NOS ship will win. Oh, of course. But the whole premise of my original post was that nos will be nerfed and solopwnmobiles will need a new king. Pretend that nos is taken completely out of the game (it won't be, but let's conjecture) - that neutraliser Dominix is going to be hard to beat in anything but a passive-tanked capless weapon ship. Sure, there are some about - but few with the beautiful slot layout of a Domi. The saving grace is that neutraliser powergrid will all but render a plated Domi impractical.
Jamius	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:18:00 - [19] Originally by: inSpirAcy Edited by: inSpirAcy on 28/03/2007 14:51:00 Originally by: Jamius With 2 identically setup ships but for nuets instead of NOS (I know the fitting is diff but bare with me) the NOS ship will win. Oh, of course. But the whole premise of my original post was that nos will be nerfed and solopwnmobiles will need a new king. Pretend that nos is taken completely out of the game (it won't be, but let's conjecture) - that neutraliser Dominix is going to be hard to beat in anything but a passive-tanked capless weapon ship. Sure, there are some about - but few with the beautiful slot layout of a Domi. The saving grace is that neutraliser powergrid will all but render a plated Domi impractical. Fair doos. It would be most amusing if heavy NOS get nerfed against small ships and they leave neuts alone. They are even worse for small ships - lol. Would serve the tackling whiners right. Hopefully they just restrict NOS/NEUT to around about 2 per ship as that's all that is required. Small ships can go look for cap like they deserve
Morreia The Celestial Element	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:24:00 - [20] Nighthawk vs Domi could be quite an amusing fight. I'd put money on the nighthawk personally.
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:27:00 - [21] tbh Megathron ftw And a passive tanked nighthawk will kill a domi eventually
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:45:00 - [22] Neutron Blaster Cannon II Megathron.
Horza Otho Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:46:00 - [23] Originally by: LordChaos geddon will *****the Domi everytime :) i can kill the domi before i use more than 2-3 cap boosters :)
Deathbarrage	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:59:00 - [24] Originally by: Horza Otho Originally by: LordChaos geddon will *****the Domi everytime :) i can kill the domi before i use more than 2-3 cap boosters :) wtf geddon with a capbooster... dual heavy pulse II? 5x RCU II?
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:02:00 - [25] Originally by: Morreia Nighthawk vs Domi could be quite an amusing fight. I'd put money on the nighthawk personally. sure keep telling yourself that ...
Morreia The Celestial Element	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:37:00 - [26] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Morreia Nighthawk vs Domi could be quite an amusing fight. I'd put money on the nighthawk personally. sure keep telling yourself that ... Well how is a NOS domi ever going to kill a passive tanked nighthawk. The nighthawk should be able to pop the drones pretty easily and then the domi. Admitidly the domi could just run away but meh. Or were you being sarcastic
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:38:00 - [27] Originally by: Morreia Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Morreia Nighthawk vs Domi could be quite an amusing fight. I'd put money on the nighthawk personally. sure keep telling yourself that ... Well how is a NOS domi ever going to kill a passive tanked nighthawk. The nighthawk should be able to pop the drones pretty easily and then the domi. Admitidly the domi could just run away but meh. Or were you being sarcastic no there is no way u can kill nos domi in your nighthawk ,... or any other pasive tanked ship ...
Admiral Pieg Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:51:00 - [28] Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Morreia Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Morreia Nighthawk vs Domi could be quite an amusing fight. I'd put money on the nighthawk personally. sure keep telling yourself that ... Well how is a NOS domi ever going to kill a passive tanked nighthawk. The nighthawk should be able to pop the drones pretty easily and then the domi. Admitidly the domi could just run away but meh. Or were you being sarcastic no there is no way u can kill nos domi in your nighthawk ,... or any other pasive tanked ship ... care to elaborate on that? even without its invul fields running a good passive tanked nighthawk should be able to tank 5 heavy t2 drones indefinitely or long enough to break through the domis tank. Unless ofcourse the domi fields heavy EM drones which noone ever does. ______________ Pod from above.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:55:00 - [29] Originally by: Don Jehova I would like to give that a try. Not sure you couldn't do it, but would like to see it. Have to dish out one hell of a dps to break a domi tank before getting nossed to death. Drone damage is not to bad either point is.. nossed to death means nothing to a Maeslktrom. With boost charges and controled timing of the Shield booster it can keep its tank going. While the guns use no cap at all. The domni would get almost no cap from the maelstrom. Thn the maesltrom would eventually win because it would be dishing far more dps than the domni. But its far from an easy fight. And the domni can simply danpen the Maesltrom If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
wierchas noobhunter The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:56:00 - [30] Edited by: wierchas noobhunter on 28/03/2007 16:53:24 Originally by: Admiral Pieg Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Morreia Originally by: wierchas noobhunter Originally by: Morreia Nighthawk vs Domi could be quite an amusing fight. I'd put money on the nighthawk personally. sure keep telling yourself that ... Well how is a NOS domi ever going to kill a passive tanked nighthawk. The nighthawk should be able to pop the drones pretty easily and then the domi. Admitidly the domi could just run away but meh. Or were you being sarcastic no there is no way u can kill nos domi in your nighthawk ,... or any other pasive tanked ship ... care to elaborate on that? even without its invul fields running a good passive tanked nighthawk should be able to tank 5 heavy t2 drones indefinitely or long enough to break through the domis tank. Unless ofcourse the domi fields heavy EM drones which noone ever does. i still dont see how u could fit setup that will break my tank, keep my in place and still pasive tank edit: oh and i use em drones alot

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