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Gindar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.28 15:54:00 - [1] region: verge vendor security status: 0.3 i was drawn to not this system but a nearby because i the map showed many ship losses in the last hour. equipped with salvagers i was on my way. i stopped in loes because i thought it had a funny name: Gindar > shop at loes Okura's > shop for what? ;-) Gindar > all your hardware needs just then, about 7 haulers jumped in. some of them warped to a station. the rest just decloaked and started floating around like stainless steel balloons. some of them had suspicious names. Gindar > whats with the macros Okura's > dont know, haulers all Okura's > shoot them Gindar > freaky at the same time i was thinking, "wait a minute, haulers in lowsec?! this is not right!" and apparently not! the place seemed to be a haven for mission runners, some of which couldn't speak english. Gindar > this place needs more pirates at this point about 4 haulers targetted me and 1 of them convo'd. i accepted. cptbeaver > hi Gindar > sup cptbeaver > go Gindar > go where? cptbeaver > loes 3 Gindar > why are there so many haulers and macro names cptbeaver > why Gindar > yeah. how come? cptbeaver > you i just couldn't shake the feeling that this guy was using a translator. i warped to the said station to find out more. there i found a brutix just outside station. i tried to scare him by targetting him and mwd'ing around him, but he just warped to somewhere in deadspace. then a dominix undocked. he had an english sounding name, so i thought maybe i'd ask him what's going on. missbort > WHAT？ Gindar > hi, sorry to bother you Gindar > what the heck is going on with this system? Gindar > no one speaks english missbort > I DONæT KONW bewildered and frightened i closed the convo. at this point i put in my pipe and donned my sherlock holmes hat. i warped to the other station and docked, hoping to find the answer to the riddle. and there it was, the source of all the strangeness. Loes 5 Moon 19 Roden Shipyards Level 4 Quality 20 Distribution Agents. FIVE of them. overwhelmed by an alice in wonderland feeling, and in awe at the total void of piracy in the area, i cringed as i watched hauler after hauler warp in and out freely, and dominix's and cruisers warping in and out of mission deadspace. Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
cheru Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:08:00 - [2] Yes they are there since months, all over gall low sec actually where decent hauling missions can be found. They have been chainkilled many times yet they always come back. ................................................. been there done that
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:11:00 - [3] Always makes me laugh going through loes. you have to resist the urge to shoot them cos all that's in them in pointless junk for courier missions. always funny to see tho. DE
Calamitty	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:28:00 - [4] Originally by: Gindar region: verge vendor security status: 0.3 i was drawn to not this system but a nearby because i the map showed many ship losses in the last hour. equipped with salvagers i was on my way. i stopped in loes because i thought it had a funny name: Gindar > shop at loes Okura's > shop for what? ;-) Gindar > all your hardware needs just then, about 7 haulers jumped in. some of them warped to a station. the rest just decloaked and started floating around like stainless steel balloons. some of them had suspicious names. Gindar > whats with the macros Okura's > dont know, haulers all Okura's > shoot them Gindar > freaky at the same time i was thinking, "wait a minute, haulers in lowsec?! this is not right!" and apparently not! the place seemed to be a haven for mission runners, some of which couldn't speak english. Gindar > this place needs more pirates at this point about 4 haulers targetted me and 1 of them convo'd. i accepted. cptbeaver > hi Gindar > sup cptbeaver > go Gindar > go where? cptbeaver > loes 3 Gindar > why are there so many haulers and macro names cptbeaver > why Gindar > yeah. how come? cptbeaver > you i just couldn't shake the feeling that this guy was using a translator. i warped to the said station to find out more. there i found a brutix just outside station. i tried to scare him by targetting him and mwd'ing around him, but he just warped to somewhere in deadspace. then a dominix undocked. he had an english sounding name, so i thought maybe i'd ask him what's going on. missbort > WHAT？ Gindar > hi, sorry to bother you Gindar > what the heck is going on with this system? Gindar > no one speaks english missbort > I DONæT KONW bewildered and frightened i closed the convo. at this point i put in my pipe and donned my sherlock holmes hat. i warped to the other station and docked, hoping to find the answer to the riddle. and there it was, the source of all the strangeness. Loes 5 Moon 19 Roden Shipyards Level 4 Quality 20 Distribution Agents. FIVE of them. overwhelmed by an alice in wonderland feeling, and in awe at the total void of piracy in the area, i cringed as i watched hauler after hauler warp in and out freely, and dominix's and cruisers warping in and out of mission deadspace. strait out of a short story sci fi book. you just made my day bro, that was awesome story telling.
Lucifer Fellblade Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:31:00 - [5] We used to pirate there, but the macro haulers just made it too much effort to keep track of targets when there's like 15 of them jumping in and out of the systems none stop if your close to loes. ------
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:40:00 - [6] my CEO says i cant shoot at them anymore. ;_; kill some for me ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Caius Sivaris Minmatar Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:55:00 - [7] Originally by: cheru Yes they are there since months, all over gall low sec actually where decent hauling missions can be found. They have been chainkilled many times yet they always come back. I scooped about 10 bodies in front of one of the two station in the morning and I'm pretty sure they'll be there in fresh clones and fresh ships when I get back there. One single successful courrier mission pay enough for a new hauler and new clone, they get ganked a lot but not 23/7 so the venture is still very profitable for them.
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.03.28 16:58:00 - [8] HDY, macro special 68mil buys you 1x geddon 8x smartbombs 4x 1600 plates 4x cpu upgrades any pilot can fly it and set off the carnage. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
jizzmonkey	Posted - 2007.03.28 17:02:00 - [9] loes...sounds familiar, i believe i sat on gate killing dozens of them, getting loot from t2 expanders to civi gear...all macro sounding names they fought back once with a sniping raven..once that was popped they just hauled again it kind of freaked me out a bit...like a cult doing a mass suicide/martyrdom thing
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.28 18:35:00 - [10] Originally by: Lithalnas HDY, macro special 68mil buys you 1x geddon 8x smartbombs 4x 1600 plates 4x cpu upgrades any pilot can fly it and set off the carnage. How do you intend to keep the 8 smartbombs running ? They are cap gluttons , I couldn't manage to sustain even 4...
Jei'son Bladesmith Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium	Posted - 2007.03.29 00:52:00 - [11] Originally by: Stakhanov Originally by: Lithalnas HDY, macro special 68mil buys you 1x geddon 8x smartbombs 4x 1600 plates 4x cpu upgrades any pilot can fly it and set off the carnage. How do you intend to keep the 8 smartbombs running ? They are cap gluttons , I couldn't manage to sustain even 4... You're not supposed to, its a setup for a hisec suicide bombageddon. the idea's to inflict a massive amount of damage to take down macro miners before CONCORD comes in and waggles their fingers at you and calls you a naughty boy and spanks you for it. Damn i think I just got turned on a little.... *☼☼☼ Confidence keeps you alive...cockiness will get you podded ☼☼☼*
Murtific Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.03.29 00:53:00 - [12] I still to this day believe most of those haulers are under the control of 2 or 3 people macro-hauling. I've even petitioned it :/ Figured I'd just gate camp there all day.... Kinda boring..
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.03.29 01:22:00 - [13] Went floating around there today (after reading the OP),the amount of haulers running forward and back is nuts, popped a few but there are simply so many of them o_O
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.03.29 01:22:00 - [14] 69mil buys you 1x geddon 8x smartbombs 3x batteries 4x 1600 plates 4x cpu upgrades ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Soporo Caldari	Posted - 2007.03.29 01:42:00 - [15] Awesome story, keep this up and you will become ... "EVE DANGERBOY DETECTIVE!" BIG BOOMING VOICE WITH ECHO EFFECT
Arekhon Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.03.29 02:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith Damn i think I just got turned on a little.... ROFL.... my thoughts and ideas represent your corp
Marduk Jerak	Posted - 2007.03.29 03:09:00 - [17] Originally by: Gindar ...at this point i put in my pipe and donned my sherlock holmes hat. <3
Mrsticks Minmatar RNCGM Inc.	Posted - 2007.03.29 03:18:00 - [18] LOL new Sig. Long Live TEXAS! Texans join the Texas channel in game plz. Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dam
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.03.29 03:48:00 - [19] Could a HAC/BS tank the station guns long enough to scare/pop a few d'ya reckon? --- Mods stop nerfing my sig! Err - what sig? - Timmeh Yes quite!
Nalar Marnith Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.03.29 04:38:00 - [20] BS/HAC with correct setup should be able to tank gate/station indefinately given the right setup. It is however an exercise in futility, it's a waste of sec status killing those clowns. The just keep coming back and you get f all for it.
Noluck Ned FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.29 08:59:00 - [21] If I ever need to disguise myself as a pirate Loes is definately the place I will go to get my sec rating down. F4T4L Recruitment
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.29 09:11:00 - [22] Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith You're not supposed to, its a setup for a hisec suicide bombageddon. Thought so - but it's a group of lowsec systems we're talking about , only need to tank sentries here.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.03.29 11:47:00 - [23] Um. Lem'me get this straight: there's tons of macro guys just flying around in crap haulers all the time? /me sets autopilot... Seriously, sounds like gate camping time. Normally I don't like to gate camp, but if there's that much traffic, and it's going to ** off mission runners, I'm all over it. Because I said so...**
WrathchildeVOTF	Posted - 2007.03.29 11:53:00 - [24] Originally by: murder one Um. Lem'me get this straight: there's tons of macro guys just flying around in crap haulers all the time? /me sets autopilot... Seriously, sounds like gate camping time. Normally I don't like to gate camp, but if there's that much traffic, and it's going to ** off mission runners, I'm all over it. Even better, it's a system that you can ** off MACRO mission runners, and leave the honest carebears to do their thing. The integrity of the game is harmed every time one of these bots makes an isk. At least the bears are making their living honestly.
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.03.29 12:19:00 - [25] Originally by: WrathchildeVOTF Originally by: murder one Um. Lem'me get this straight: there's tons of macro guys just flying around in crap haulers all the time? /me sets autopilot... Seriously, sounds like gate camping time. Normally I don't like to gate camp, but if there's that much traffic, and it's going to ** off mission runners, I'm all over it. Even better, it's a system that you can off MACRO mission runners, and leave the honest carebears to do their thing. The integrity of the game is harmed every time one of these bots makes an isk. At least the bears are making their living honestly. I like killing macro scum, but I also like killing non macro missioning scum as well. Because I said so...**
Yblarbo Janks Caldari Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.03.29 12:45:00 - [26] Janks has wondered when the rest of you folks would discover the woes of loes. It's very, very, very difficult to go through loes and leave the haulers alone!
Banana Torres The Green Banana Corporation Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.29 12:53:00 - [27] Originally by: Gindar just then, about 7 haulers jumped in. some of them warped to a station. the rest just decloaked and started floating around like stainless steel balloons. some of them had suspicious names. This kinda indicates that they are not using macros. As a macro would warp them to the station. Anyway, if you kill them while they are carrying the mission tat then they will fail the mission and lose standing with the corp. Eventually they won't be able to use the level 4 agent. That might be a way of fighting them. -- The Green Banana Corporation is Recruiting
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.29 15:45:00 - [28] Originally by: Banana Torres Originally by: Gindar just then, about 7 haulers jumped in. some of them warped to a station. the rest just decloaked and started floating around like stainless steel balloons. some of them had suspicious names. This kinda indicates that they are not using macros. As a macro would warp them to the station. Anyway, if you kill them while they are carrying the mission tat then they will fail the mission and lose standing with the corp. Eventually they won't be able to use the level 4 agent. That might be a way of fighting them. Is the mission automatically failed if the cargo is destroyed ? Otherwise , they can just take mission objectives from their stock and finish them anyway...
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.03.29 16:26:00 - [29] yes and no, if they quit one mission every 4 hours they dont lose standing. however if you can force them to quit one before that time then yes it could work. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Silver Sheath	Posted - 2007.03.29 16:39:00 - [30] It'd be an interesting party if we got every pirate corp that we could together to go wipe out that system. I can see it now, the haulers all get destroyed and suddenly there aren't any targets left. Then pirates do the only thing they're good at: Drink a bunch of rum and start shooting each other. It'd at least scare the macro'ers into thinking maybe thier system is gonna be the new hang out spot.
Eteon Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2007.03.29 16:49:00 - [31] Hoho, I'll drop them a visit in my whole new Rifter.
DarkElf Caldari Veto.	Posted - 2007.03.29 17:13:00 - [32] Originally by: Eteon Hoho, I'll drop them a visit in my whole new Rifter. it better be one of those sentry tanking rifters can u won't find them sitting at a planet DE
Stakhanov Shih Yang Tong	Posted - 2007.03.29 18:42:00 - [33] It's annoying to see so little action following those "woot macros in lowsec too easy" comments. It is not , you need to chain bestowers continuously for hours on end to make a small difference. What it would take to put an end to this , is an organized macro-watch militia in Loes and Jovainnon , taking turns to permacamp gates indefinitely. A carrier or 2 would greatly help , though I suppose carrier pilots generally have more profitable or entertaining jobs in mind. Remember , the problem originates from the players - those willing to buy ISK. It's up to those who don't to sort things out.
Christopher Dalran Gallente Deadly Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.29 20:26:00 - [34] CCP realy needs to be a little more proactive about going after macroers, Its against the rules yet they continue to thrive and sell billions of isk by way of legally selling GTC's. If it was up to me to do something about it I would personally make systems like loes with many lvl 4 hauling agents and use it as a trap to atract macroers to make them easier to catch. I realy dont understand why they are allowed to continue this despite everyone knowing about it and to be honest it should not be out responsibility to put a stop to it. The game mechanics just make it impossible to do anything to end it for good. Even if we decide to do something about it there is 0 isk gain because the mission cargo is worthless so all we get are sec hits. I have no problem with people making buttloads of ISK doing hauling missions, I just want them to actually need to be at the PC to do it. ------------------------------- C.D's Formula for success ------------------------------- Credit Card = Game Time Card Gametime Card = ISK Therefore Credit Card = ISK.
agrajag119	Posted - 2007.03.29 23:09:00 - [35] Originally by: Christopher Dalran CCP realy needs to be a little more proactive about going after macroers, Its against the rules yet they continue to thrive and sell billions of isk by way of legally selling GTC's. You're missing the way the GTC sales work. The only one making real life cash off of GTC sales is CCP. The macro-ers are not making RL money, but they are making buttloads of ISK. Whether those are making it to non-legal (game terms) sellers .... but don't blame GTC sales for macroes.
Commoner Caldari Emergent Chaos The Core Collective	Posted - 2007.03.29 23:29:00 - [36] Station 10 battleships with faction smartbombs, and 5 carriers remote cap boosting those battleships and lay a ring around the station to pop ANYTHING small entering.
ReFaN Gallente FRACTAL CLUSTER	Posted - 2007.03.30 20:55:00 - [37] Tryed going there too shoot some macroers, 10 mins later i lost my Tempest too Pirates looking for Prey :p
Wilhelm Beck Tritanium Workers Union	Posted - 2007.03.30 21:20:00 - [38] I took a nice vacation there a while ago. I brought back this pretty picutre and this promotional pamphlet. That said Loes is a good time until you forget that you are flagged, tanking the guns, and some other pirate shows up to try and pop haulers. With the sheer number of bestowers it's hard to kill them all and watch local at the same time.
Dark Peter	Posted - 2007.03.30 21:31:00 - [39] Originally by: agrajag119 Originally by: Christopher Dalran CCP realy needs to be a little more proactive about going after macroers, Its against the rules yet they continue to thrive and sell billions of isk by way of legally selling GTC's. You're missing the way the GTC sales work. The only one making real life cash off of GTC sales is CCP. The macro-ers are not making RL money, but they are making buttloads of ISK. Whether those are making it to non-legal (game terms) sellers .... but don't blame GTC sales for macroes. Macro the isk, buy GTC on these forums for isk, sell gtc on ebay for rl cash. Macroers are making rl cash, dude.
Rhaegor Stormborn	Posted - 2007.03.30 22:06:00 - [40] I can't believe CCP doesn't do anything about this.
SN3263827 The Black Rabbits Fatal Persuasion	Posted - 2007.03.31 04:51:00 - [41] When we were down in Placid on our little holiday, we went to the trouble of removing haulers from our killboard's front page because an afternoon's pillaging would result in 60+ hauler kills. The number of farmers in that region of space is ludicrous. _____________________________________________
kessah Caldari The Arrow Project The ARR0W Project	Posted - 2007.03.31 14:33:00 - [42] there maybe alot of haulers etc but the fittings and general cargo is worth barly anything. i think the best i got was a expanded cargo.. --------------------------------------------------------
Speed Devil Caldari Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.31 14:58:00 - [43] maybe a good system for ginger to camp in Originally by: Merkanas To people who can't understand: there are rules and there are morals, don't get them confused. If rules allow it and you have no moral objection, by all means... have fun.
Lithalnas Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative	Posted - 2007.03.31 20:19:00 - [44] how do industrials salvage? ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day
Gindar Privateers Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.03 13:46:00 - [45] bumpage 50 podkills in the last hour. my work here is done Sig removed does not contain your name, email [email protected] if you have any questions - Xorus
Nyana	Posted - 2007.04.03 19:55:00 - [46] Originally by: Gindar bumpage 50 podkills in the last hour. my work here is done Uh, you have a 1.1 security status. 50 podkills (or even 10) would get you way below -5.
SleepingBuddah	Posted - 2007.04.03 20:14:00 - [47] Originally by: Nyana Originally by: Gindar bumpage 50 podkills in the last hour. my work here is done Uh, you have a 1.1 security status. 50 podkills (or even 10) would get you way below -5. This is a Privateer, speaker of lies. Allys and corps pwn them.
Thread Winner Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.04.03 20:17:00 - [48] Originally by: SleepingBuddah Originally by: Nyana Originally by: Gindar bumpage 50 podkills in the last hour. my work here is done Uh, you have a 1.1 security status. 50 podkills (or even 10) would get you way below -5. This is a Privateer, speaker of lies. Allys and corps pwn them. Then why are there posts every 3 seconds whining about war decs?
altnr156584651	Posted - 2007.04.03 20:36:00 - [49] Originally by: SleepingBuddah Originally by: Nyana Originally by: Gindar bumpage 50 podkills in the last hour. my work here is done Uh, you have a 1.1 security status. 50 podkills (or even 10) would get you way below -5. This is a Privateer, speaker of lies. Allys and corps pwn them. many privateers have lowsec alts for lowsec pirating
Boliknar The Shadow Order Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.03 21:15:00 - [50] Edited by: Boliknar on 03/04/2007 21:13:36 Dark Peter beat me to it.
Nidhoggur The Movement	Posted - 2007.04.04 00:47:00 - [51] Originally by: murder one Um. Lem'me get this straight: there's tons of macro guys just flying around in crap haulers all the time? /me sets autopilot... Seriously, sounds like gate camping time. Normally I don't like to gate camp, but if there's that much traffic, and it's going to **** off mission runners, I'm all over it. Sure, everyone come to Placid and Verge Vendor, and start popping those haulers... You'll give up after a few hours when you realise all you have to show for it is some expanded cargohold Is, a bunch of janitors and a doll. We can't win, because it's a waste of time and sanity to kill the haulers.
Thread Winner Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.04.04 01:27:00 - [52] Originally by: Nidhoggur Originally by: murder one Um. Lem'me get this straight: there's tons of macro guys just flying around in crap haulers all the time? /me sets autopilot... Seriously, sounds like gate camping time. Normally I don't like to gate camp, but if there's that much traffic, and it's going to **** off mission runners, I'm all over it. Sure, everyone come to Placid and Verge Vendor, and start popping those haulers... You'll give up after a few hours when you realise all you have to show for it is some expanded cargohold Is, a bunch of janitors and a doll. We can't win, because it's a waste of time and sanity to kill the haulers. I've lost 2 thoraxes by killing these guys thanks to black screens from undocking and pop ups that get reset with the patch
Curzon Dax Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.04 02:08:00 - [53] briefly removes his carebear hat If you're in a gang of friends (say five of you) and you kill a hauler, does everyone get a security hit? Or just the person who gets the killing blow? Or everyone who shoots at them?
Thread Winner Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.04.04 02:17:00 - [54] Originally by: Curzon Dax briefly removes his carebear hat If you're in a gang of friends (say five of you) and you kill a hauler, does everyone get a security hit? Or just the person who gets the killing blow? Or everyone who shoots at them? Every one gets flagged
Kittsa Twilight Gallente mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.04.04 04:05:00 - [55] That even tempts me to go down there. I'm no pirate but I hate macros...I wouldn't ming going -5 just to punish the buggers even if it is no real use
Thread Winner Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.04.04 04:07:00 - [56] Originally by: Kittsa Twilight That even tempts me to go down there. I'm no pirate but I hate macros...I wouldn't ming going -5 just to punish the buggers even if it is no real use Then you don't really understand how much of a ***** it is to be -5
mematar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.04.04 06:06:00 - [57] This system rocks :D It's fun place to get some stress off, there are even few macro that fight back!
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.04 06:16:00 - [58] Wish I could go down there and cause hell but I gotta be able to hunt my quarry in 1.0 Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking ... ~Liz Kali
Kittsa Twilight Gallente mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.04.04 10:13:00 - [59] Originally by: Thread Winner Originally by: Kittsa Twilight That even tempts me to go down there. I'm no pirate but I hate macros...I wouldn't ming going -5 just to punish the buggers even if it is no real use Then you don't really understand how much of a ***** it is to be -5 Means no empire right? Meh, I could live without it, not easily but i could
Caius Sivaris Minmatar Dark Nexxus	Posted - 2007.04.04 10:40:00 - [60] I scooped 18 corpses this morning between the front of the station at planet 5 and the Oueletta gate. And they weren't there yesterday evening. Whoever did it, thank you. For them to cease we'd need to make their business unprofitable, seeing as a single completed mission buy them a new hauler and a new clone short of a week long 23/7 system lock down I don't see this happening. But I don't think we'd get all people to agree not to break the gatecamps even if this one would obviously be for the greater good of the game. Popping farmers at gates is dangerous, not because of the farmers but because any passer by with a scram and a decent tank will make you die to sentries eventually.
Krogan Ukone Minmatar Kyrgyz-Kazakh	Posted - 2007.04.04 11:11:00 - [61] Edited by: Krogan Ukone on 04/04/2007 11:08:08 18 corpses ... Id say you have this guy to thank for them. http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=501819 Maybe if you get the time you could bring up that pic and count the triangles just to make sure
Awox Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.04.04 11:28:00 - [62] I killed a few of them at the gates in my stabber. They just carry crap, but it was still fun. I also petitioned for a GM to investigate. - BOOST OUTLAWS (-10.0 and proud of it)
murder one Gallente Death of Virtue	Posted - 2007.04.04 21:51:00 - [63] Originally by: Thread Winner Originally by: Curzon Dax briefly removes his carebear hat If you're in a gang of friends (say five of you) and you kill a hauler, does everyone get a security hit? Or just the person who gets the killing blow? Or everyone who shoots at them? Every one gets flagged Not everyone in the gang, just those who shoot. So don't scram a pod, then have someone else pod him. You'll still get a -.4 sec penalty. Because I said so...
Zantrei Kordisin	Posted - 2007.04.06 21:14:00 - [64] Err... they dissapeared?

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