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Posted - 2007.04.02 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: Dahak2150 Prove that the *entire* implant market was massively changed by this one single mission alone
I don't know which other thread you're referring to. I know I posted about this a few times but this is the only thread I saw come back around the next time I looked at the forums. If I had seen you "call me" on this I would have responded. Like I am right here and now.
The easiest proof that this mission changed everything is by looking at the graphs for +3 implants. In my region, which is a heavily traversed one that sells between 50 and 100 of each +3 implant per day, there was a very obvious decline in prices starting at the end of January. Why is this significant? This is exactly when threads started to appear where people talked about getting a +3 implant from Massive Attack every time in the bonus room. Feb 1 is when I first did a few Massive Attacks to test it out. By the middle of Feb the prices hit rock bottom... and the demand caught up to supply which caused a little surge as always happens when a market was in free-fall and went too far. The market then somewhat stabilized around this new price point (which was 30% or so lower than it was pre-MA). The prices were ever so slowly trending downwards again, as even more people jumped onto the MA bandwagon... and then as soon as MA was changed in this recent patch the price has JUMPED. Check it out, all +3 implants are shooting for the stars in prices, some are already back to pre-Kali price levels.
So now, the price changes fit exactly to the time-line of massive attack changes. As to the changes to offers, I havn't been offered a +3 implant offer in weeks now. So are you sure they removed other offers? I got all sorts of +2 implant offers, even as I got 20k LP and above. I've gotten 4 ship building offers and finally I just got a connections book offer. So I certainly havn't noticed a reduction in non implant offers... to me I've seen more non-implant offers than ever and that holds true across 3 agents I work for. If you think that was the cause for the price drop then you prove it to me, lets see graphs/time-lines/spreadhseets/etc... you are the one who has to prove that one. I've proven the MA time-line fits perfect, it's your job to prove it is agent offers if you really think that has impacted anything to a serious degree.
As to why it would impact the +2 market, that is very simple. +3's have been the implant most people shoot for as a cost/benefit analysis. At least all my corp mates have always gotten the +3's if possible. +2's are the implant people get for alts or if they are going to be in low sec more, as they arn't as big a loss if you get podded. Also not everyone can even afford +3's, there are lots of people who just didn't have 20 mill isk to spend on an implant. But as +3's came down from the 15-22 mil range and into the 8-14 mil range more people found that they could buy +3's instead of +2's... thus the demand for +2's dropped. Because demand for +2's dropped the price on +2's dropped until demand could again equal supply. This drop was not nearly as sudden as the +3 drop... it was more of an overall downward trend starting in late January. It will take a while for the prices to slowly start increasing again now that +3's have jumped in price again.
As to the +4 market, it has been in a constant state of decline ever since more people started to run level 4 missions. People weren't willing to spend 100 mill on +4's when you get +3 for under half that. And that has stayed true, as +3's have dropped in price the +4's have had to follow because the demand for +4's drops as +3 prices drop... which pulls down +4 prices until the demand is again equal to the ever increasing supply. +4 prices actually had stabilized and were rebounding after revelations... but then something happened to again force prices downward, just as MA was being exploited and +3 prices plummeted.
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