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Bager Gray
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Posted - 2007.03.29 20:21:00 -
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I have bought a deimos and have 9 days till i can use it. Can somone please list the best, in your opinion, blaster setup for pvp, and NPCing.
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KaptnSparrow
Caldari TARDZ Gods of Night and Day
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Posted - 2007.03.29 20:26:00 -
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cechk the sticky some are very nice :)
22 days till I can use my deimos :) ...eve's worst pirate...
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jbob2000
Gallente KIA Corp KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.29 20:54:00 -
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1) Neutrons 2) MWD, point, web 3) Rep, plate, ENAM, whatever it takes to fit ???? PROFIT!!!! ________________________________ KIA Recruitment
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Wintermoon
Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.29 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: jbob2000 1) Neutrons 2) MWD, point, web 3) Rep, plate, ENAM, whatever it takes to fit ???? PROFIT!!!!
Remember kids, real space cowboys use 3 damage mods. Do you?

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Deety
VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Wintermoon
Originally by: jbob2000 1) Neutrons 2) MWD, point, web 3) Rep, plate, ENAM, whatever it takes to fit ???? PROFIT!!!!
Remember kids, real space cowboys use 3 damage mods. Do you?

Of course :)
Somewhat expensive, but fun setup(For gangs): 5x Heavy Neutron II Shadow Serp 10mn MWD, Fleeting Webber, Scram or Cap recharger Medium Rep II, EANM II, DCU II, 3x Shadow Serp Magstabs PG Rig, Cap Recharge Rig
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slothe
Caldari 0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:21:00 -
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hint
dont try and tank it
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Ronin Reborn
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.29 22:26:00 -
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5x Nuetron IIs 1x w/e
1x 10mn MWD 1x 20k 1x web
1x MAR II 1x Exp Hardener II 3x Mag Stab II 1x RCU II
Drones are either Valk IIs or ecm 600s
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Snikkt
Time Cube Syndicate Daikoku Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.29 23:09:00 -
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Originally by: Ronin Reborn 5x Nuetron IIs 1x w/e
1x 10mn MWD 1x 20k 1x web
1x MAR II 1x Exp Hardener II 3x Mag Stab II 1x RCU II
Drones are either Valk IIs or ecm 600s
Best setup in the thread so far. ------------------- My opinions (ie, all of my posting here) are not my corporations. Nor should it be taken as such. |

Segmentor
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.03.29 23:20:00 -
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Ive said it alot before, and ill keep saying it. Fitting 2x SAR II is better, and more cost effective than fitting a MAR II + RCU ---
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Angelic Vision
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Posted - 2007.03.30 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Segmentor Ive said it alot before, and ill keep saying it. Fitting 2x SAR II is better, and more cost effective than fitting a MAR II + RCU
You mind giving your reason behind this. Just curious if you've done the number crunching for your opinion.
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Grytok
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Posted - 2007.03.30 00:57:00 -
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Originally by: Angelic Vision
Originally by: Segmentor Ive said it alot before, and ill keep saying it. Fitting 2x SAR II is better, and more cost effective than fitting a MAR II + RCU
You mind giving your reason behind this. Just curious if you've done the number crunching for your opinion.
1x MAR II: 173 MW, 160 Activation, 12 sec, 320 HP 2x SAR II: 12 MW, 80 Activation, 6 sec, 160 HP
Got it?  -----
Flying a Deimos solo is not worth while, tbh. So in a small gang this thingy is ment to dish out lot's of damage, FAST.
However I disagree with the general opinion in flying the Deimos in Full-Gank-Setup.
High: 5x Heavy Electron II, Med Dim NOS Med: YT-8 MWD, Med Electrochemical CapBooster, Web Low: MAR II, 400mm RT, Energized Reactive II, EANM II, DCU II, MagStab II Rigs: 2x CCC I Drones: 5x Hammerhead II
Not that much damage, but much more survivability. Damage however is still pretty good, and the NOS takes away a little breath of the opponent. .
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Ronin Reborn
Dark-Rising Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.03.30 01:35:00 -
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Right....nos, cap booster and 2 cap rigs on a ship that cant tank for poo 
Deimos is the gankiest of HACs, though very fragile. Flying it otherwise is a travesty imo.
As for the 2 SAR II rep idea, it's not the first time I've heard it suggested. Next time I can pick up a Deimos I'll try it out, the idea seems to have merit.
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Horza Otho
Minmatar Infortunatus Eventus
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Posted - 2007.03.30 01:48:00 -
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5x electron II 1x mwd 1x web 1x -1 1x 1600mm RT 1x ts passive explosive 1x dcu II 3x mfs II 5x valkyrie II
Was the best setup i ever flew. You can switch out the mfs II if your gang mates weren't curtious enough to fit a remote rep, or if you are solo.
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king jks
NASA Navy New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.30 01:52:00 -
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5x heavy neutron II
MWD blah blah
MARII exp hard II DCU II 3x magstab
PG rig
weee. ------------------------
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korrey
Taurus Inc
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Posted - 2007.03.30 04:50:00 -
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Originally by: king jks 5x heavy neutron II
MWD blah blah
MARII exp hard II DCU II 3x magstab
PG rig
weee.
The only way that fits is with an MWD I, which is usless compared to a II tbh. Otherwise your 7 PG short. You have to use both rigs for PG to get that to fit.
And to the above posters, dont try and tank the Diemos, it makes baby emperor cry. You will be out of cap on your 10 volley, with a MAR going you will be out even faster. ----------- 24.01.06 Small patch that addresses some minor balancing issues 1) All minmatar pilots have been deleted |

Lady Temp
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Posted - 2007.03.30 05:53:00 -
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well Ive been thinking about getting into a deimos recently, but i havent really found a setup that i really liked the looks of. Im used to flying bigger blaster ships (ie- Blaster-throns, and more recently Hypes) so i have some questions about smaller cruiser sized blaster ships, being that I havent really used them too much.
I'd be happy if i can get some feedback on these 2 setups:
Ion setup(requires 1 PG rig) Highs: 5x Ion II's 1x Small nos
Mids: 1x 10MN MWD II 1x Web 1x 20k Scram
Lows: 1x MAR II 1x 800mm RT Plate 1x Armor Expl Hardener II 3x MFS II's
Rigs: 1x PG rig 1x (empty)
Neutron setup (no rigging required) Highs: 5x Neutrons 1x Small nos
Mids: 1x 10MN MWD II 1x web 1x 20k Scram
Lows: 2x SAR II's 1x Armor Expl Hardener II 3x MFS II's
Rigs: 2x (empty)
Here are some questions I have: -What is the best way to engage a target? Get close and stand still (like flying a Blaster-thron/hype) or a close range, non-mwd orbit (like a frig)? -If Orbiting as stated above, Would 'Void' ammo still be best, or would it inhibit my accuracy too much? -Is the marginal DPS and range that Neutrons have over Ions that important? I kinda like the "tank" of the Ion setup vs the Neutrons more.( IE- MAR + plate vs 2x SAR) -What drones should I use? Med T2 Damage drones, or Vespa EC-600's? - What rigs would be good for the ship?
Anyways, Thanks in advanced, and feel free to rip these setups apart.
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Mutant Caldari
Caldari VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:32:00 -
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Originally by: Deety
Originally by: Wintermoon
Originally by: jbob2000 1) Neutrons 2) MWD, point, web 3) Rep, plate, ENAM, whatever it takes to fit ???? PROFIT!!!!
Remember kids, real space cowboys use 3 damage mods. Do you?

Of course :)
Somewhat expensive, but fun setup(For gangs): 5x Heavy Neutron II Shadow Serp 10mn MWD, Fleeting Webber, Scram or Cap recharger Medium Rep II, EANM II, DCU II, 3x Shadow Serp Magstabs PG Rig, Cap Recharge Rig
Very evil setup. I know from firsthand experience  Yeah I am a pirate.What are you gonna do about it? |

Riho
Gallente Magnificent Beavers Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.30 06:40:00 -
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i know it isnt the coolest fit.. but it has survived along time for me.
5x ion t2, med nos mwd, scram, web mar t2, ean t2, dcu t2, explosive hardener t2, 800mm plate, mag stab t2
5x hammerhead t2
2x pg rig.
i use true sansha web, med nos and explosive hardener. before that i used t2 and best named.
this setup has survived alot and for a long time... have used it in low sec piracy aswell in 0.0 solo --------------------------------------- Sig killed by MODs.... reworking it Great being Gallente... aint it ? ----------------- YARRRR, sig hijack! -HornFrog ----------------- |

king jks
NASA Navy New Age Solutions Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.03.30 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: korrey
Originally by: king jks 5x heavy neutron II
MWD blah blah
MARII exp hard II DCU II 3x magstab
PG rig
weee.
The only way that fits is with an MWD I, which is usless compared to a II tbh. Otherwise your 7 PG short. You have to use both rigs for PG to get that to fit.
And to the above posters, dont try and tank the Diemos, it makes baby emperor cry. You will be out of cap on your 10 volley, with a MAR going you will be out even faster.
AWU 5 ------------------------
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Ozzie Asrail
FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.30 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: Ozzie Asrail on 30/03/2007 11:23:53 My favorite atm.
5x Neutron II Named MWD, SS 26km Disruptor, 90% Web MARII, DCUII, EXPII, 3x MagStab II PG rig, Cap Amount Rig 5x Valk II
Alternative is to drop the scram and cap rig for a PG rig and a med cap booster. -----
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wierchas noobhunter
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.03.30 12:09:00 -
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thorax ...
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maarud
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.30 12:24:00 -
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Tank: 5x T2 Electrons, 1x Dim NOS 1x MWD, 1x Scram, 1x Cap Booster 1x MAR T2, 1x T2 Exp Hardner, 2x T2 ENAMM, 1x DCU II, 1x T2 Magstab Rigs: 2x Nano Pumps
Semi Gank: 5x T2 ions, 1x Dim NOS 1x MWD, 1x Scram, 1x Web 1x MAR T2, DB Exp Hardner, 2x ENAM T2, 2x T2 Magstab 1x pg rig, 1x hybrid dmg rig
Pure Gank: 5x T2 Neutrons 1x mwd, 1x scram, 1x web 1x MAR, 3x Magstab T2, 1x T2 RCU, 1x T2 PDS Rigs: 1x ROF rig, 1x DMG rig
(does Damage per second on Structure : 731.876 without drones)
Maarud.
Proudly a Ex-BYDI member |

dralid
Vortex. Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.03.30 12:36:00 -
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If you use the Neutrons II in combination with 3 magstabs, you will dish alot of damage, but not to other cruisers/frigs/destroyers/af's etc as you will miss alot, certainly when u r mwd'ing I noticed a miuch better hitration (thus higher real dps) if you switch a magstab for a tracking enhancer.
Believe me, it will make a big difference.
But personally I am a follower of the Ion religion :) Less damage, but makes up with higher rof and better tracking, and all this while eating less cap!
And it gives you somewhat more freedom in fitting this beauty -- Do YOU know, the Whirlwind? HERE |

Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.03.30 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: maarud Tank: 5x T2 Electrons, 1x Dim NOS 1x MWD, 1x Scram, 1x Cap Booster 1x MAR T2, 1x T2 Exp Hardner, 2x T2 ENAMM, 1x DCU II, 1x T2 Magstab Rigs: 2x Nano Pumps
Semi Gank: 5x T2 ions, 1x Dim NOS 1x MWD, 1x Scram, 1x Web 1x MAR T2, DB Exp Hardner, 2x ENAM T2, 2x T2 Magstab 1x pg rig, 1x hybrid dmg rig
Pure Gank: 5x T2 Neutrons 1x mwd, 1x scram, 1x web 1x MAR, 3x Magstab T2, 1x T2 RCU, 1x T2 PDS Rigs: 1x ROF rig, 1x DMG rig
(does Damage per second on Structure : 731.876 without drones)
With 1 ROF rig and 1 DMG rig[both at 10% I assume and not tech 2?] you would be better off using a dmg mod.
Pure Gank: 5x T2 Neutrons 1x mwd, 1x scram, 1x web 2x SARII, 4x Magstab T2
Empty, Empty
Accomplishes the same thing and the damage i get is 672 unless you have implants in above that [which with 5% rof and 5% dmg implant you get 743, 741 with two 5% dmg implants] without drones.
Now you can stick whatever rigs you want in there like speed or armor and hit the same DPS. Unless those are tech 2 rigs that is, but can you really justify tech 2 rigs on even a hac? ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" |

Kehmor
Caldari The Movement
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Posted - 2007.03.30 12:47:00 -
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I run:
5 neutron IIs 1 small nos mwd, scram, web 3 magstabs, 2 eanm II's, MAR II
Rigs: PG rig and whatever takes your fancy (explosive resist or CCC are prolly decent ideas)
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maarud
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.03.30 13:16:00 -
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Originally by: Goumindong
Accomplishes the same thing and the damage i get is 672 unless you have implants in above that [which with 5% rof and 5% dmg implant you get 743, 741 with two 5% dmg implants] without drones.
Now you can stick whatever rigs you want in there like speed or armor and hit the same DPS. Unless those are tech 2 rigs that is, but can you really justify tech 2 rigs on even a hac?
No rof or dmg implants, but that figure is with void ammo. Maarud.
Proudly a Ex-BYDI member |

Goumindong
Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys
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Posted - 2007.03.30 13:33:00 -
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Originally by: maarud
Originally by: Goumindong
Accomplishes the same thing and the damage i get is 672 unless you have implants in above that [which with 5% rof and 5% dmg implant you get 743, 741 with two 5% dmg implants] without drones.
Now you can stick whatever rigs you want in there like speed or armor and hit the same DPS. Unless those are tech 2 rigs that is, but can you really justify tech 2 rigs on even a hac?
No rof or dmg implants, but that figure is with void ammo.
So is mine, you are doing something wrong. i ran it 3 times. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew" |

Grytok
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Posted - 2007.03.30 18:24:00 -
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Well I don't understand, why it shouldn't be possible to tank the Deimos, with Resists @ 74/66/89/79 and 3862 HP Armor.
I can run the MAR II indefinite, with 1x Med Dim NOS, 2x CCC and max Cap-Skills @ 55-60% Cap.
And if getting NOSsed myselve, thats what the CapBooster is for. .
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.03.30 19:10:00 -
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Originally by: Grytok Well I don't understand, why it shouldn't be possible to tank the Deimos, with Resists @ 74/66/89/79 and 3862 HP Armor.
I can run the MAR II indefinite, with 1x Med Dim NOS, 2x CCC and max Cap-Skills @ 55-60% Cap.
And if getting NOSsed myselve, thats what the CapBooster is for.
Look. It is possible to tank a deimos. Offcourse it is. But why not use a isthar than. Deimos is gank,gank,gank...
While isthar deals the same dps, has more tank and is more versatile. whoops did i say that out loud  _________________________________________________ Breetime
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Llarr
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Posted - 2007.03.31 21:20:00 -
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I have to agree with Mada pwnzor of the nooblets
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