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Phaia
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:25:00 -
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I like most of Castor, except for one thing: the 2.5 km jump distance at gates. I understand that this change was to make combat at gates more viable, but it also makes deep space mining ops very UNviable. I could accept a 1 1/2 hour round to go 30 jumps each way, but now it takes that long for a 10 jump round trip.
I've come up with a solution to the problem: the Warp Disrupters mods that will be anchored at gates. When a WD is at a gate, the jump distance will be 2.5 km. No WD, the distance is the old 10 km. This way, PvPers can still have gate battles, and miners and indy pilots can still complete long trips within a reasonable amount of time.
Anyway, that's my suggestion. I will now activate my forum flame hardeners and ignore all trolls.  |
Jericho
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:30:00 -
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You are missing one thing... THEY PUT THE WARP DISRUPTORS IN SO WE CAN NAIL MINERS... 
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:31:00 -
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Actually you missed two things:
1) Warp disruptors aren't active.
2) Try not putting cargo expanders on your industrial?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Jericho
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:36:00 -
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Actually you missed two things:
1) Warp disruptors aren't active.
2) Try not putting cargo expanders on your industrial?
Sorry, got caught up into the moment...
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Phaia
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:37:00 -
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Actually you missed two things:
1) Warp disruptors aren't active.
2) Try not putting cargo expanders on your industrial?
1) Yes I know, I meant when they come in.
2) I put expanders on my indy cause i want to haul as much ore as i possibly can in the time i can play.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:42:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 23/12/2003 18:43:28
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Actually you missed two things:
1) Warp disruptors aren't active.
2) Try not putting cargo expanders on your industrial?
1) Yes I know, I meant when they come in.
2) I put expanders on my indy cause i want to haul as much ore as i possibly can in the time i can play.
Warp disruptors aren't coming in. At least not in their original format. They will be a structure that a player has to use in order to interfere with someone warping.
As for the rest:
2 Mammoths, 1 loaded with cargo expanders and 1 not.
Mammoth #1: Around 12k m3 cargo and a max speed of about 80-100m/s
Mammoth #2: 6750m3 cargo and a max speed 432m/s.
More than 1/2 the cargo and 4x the speed. Are you sure you're hauling as much ore as possible in the time you can play?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Mr nStuff
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Posted - 2003.12.23 18:51:00 -
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What about bookmarks? Insta-jump bookmarks should still work if there's no Warp Disrupter.
You will have to make your bookmarks more accurate to get you within 2500 meters..
And ofcourse they will be useless for thoughs jumps where you wrongfully jump in at the stargate your going to jump out of.
5 R&D Agents, 10months, Zero BPO Offers..
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My account will be suspended at the end of the current play period.
Expires on 19. September 2004 |
Scragg
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Posted - 2003.12.23 19:02:00 -
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The pirates are probably going to troll me to death severly about the head and shoulders but with the gates and targeting the way they are now I see little reason for portable warp disruptors.
If you can target an indy you can kill it now and fighitng near a gate is very dangerous due to the warp to distance selection and the fact you never know who is going to come though the gate.
I don't really see warp disruptors providing much of a bennifit. But hey, thats just me.
Scragg, Tyrell Corporation
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.23 19:09:00 -
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The pirates are probably going to troll me to death severly about the head and shoulders but with the gates and targeting the way they are now I see little reason for portable warp disruptors.
If you can target an indy you can kill it now and fighitng near a gate is very dangerous due to the warp to distance selection and the fact you never know who is going to come though the gate.
I don't really see warp disruptors providing much of a bennifit. But hey, thats just me.
You ever consider including people besides pirates that might want warp disruptors in your rather slanted view?
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Saladin
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Posted - 2003.12.23 19:17:00 -
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Edited by: Saladin on 23/12/2003 19:24:16
I think the warp disruptors will be neat. I can see why frigate pirates dedicated to indy destruction wouldn't like them, since they could be locked onto before they leave the warp disruption range and go to warp.
What I would really like to see is the ability to warp to a pilot in dead space when you pick him up on the scanner. This is the single most important thing needed in PvP and I hope it gets implemented. I'd also like to see this coupled with ships not disappearing when the player logs off. If you want to log off and be completely safe, you need to dock at a station.
In my previous mmorpg's, like UO, players could not evade you by going between two landmarks (i.e. celestial bodies) and staying there. Players who did not log out by creating a camp ground or by going to an inn were at serious risk from being killed.
The option to warp to a ship picked up on the scanner is crucuial in this game. It should not be limited to a module or skill, it should be available for use through the default scanner. People who log out in space should have their ships remain there for at least 10 minutes
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.23 19:19:00 -
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I think the warp disruptors will be neat. I can see why frigate pirates dedicated to indy destruction wouldn't like them, since they could be locked onto before they leave the warp disruption range and go to warp.
Rifter can cross 40km in 10 seconds
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.23 19:26:00 -
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I think the warp disruptors will be neat. I can see why frigate pirates dedicated to indy destruction wouldn't like them, since they could be locked onto before they leave the warp disruption range and go to warp.
Warp Disruption field will be the first thing CA will buy, won't it?
I don't think it will stop the******of your arkonor mining sessions though - we'll still pod your indies all day everyday.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Phaia
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Posted - 2003.12.23 19:26:00 -
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What about bookmarks? Insta-jump bookmarks should still work if there's no Warp Disrupter.
You will have to make your bookmarks more accurate to get you within 2500 meters..
Yes, but unfortunately I have a problem with 75% of my jumps. I jump into a system and end up 15km away from the gate to the next system, making my insta BM worthless and forcing me to spend several minutes approaching the gate.
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Saladin
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Posted - 2003.12.23 19:35:00 -
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Joshua,
I can't say I'm surprised that you would take a rational, non-political discussion of game mechanics and paint it with your own agenda. Is flaming people in your blood?
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.23 19:37:00 -
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Joshua,
I can't say I'm surprised that you would take a rational, non-political discussion of game mechanics and paint it with your own agenda. Is flaming people in your blood?
No, I lost all my blood when Woetra podded me 
Clone has fizzy cola in its veins.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.12.23 20:32:00 -
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Edited by: Jash Illian on 23/12/2003 20:33:31
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Joshua,
I can't say I'm surprised that you would take a rational, non-political discussion of game mechanics and paint it with your own agenda. Is flaming people in your blood?
No, I lost all my blood when Woetra podded me
Clone has fizzy cola in its veins.
Well you clone still looks like Al Bundy
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!- Lallante |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.23 20:34:00 -
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Tell me who Al Bundy is before I decide whether to be insulted or not.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2003.12.23 20:40:00 -
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"Tell me who Al Bundy is before I decide whether to be insulted or not."
That guy from Married with Children show.
... actually thought Mr.InkZ of KIA looks more like Al Bundy, but that's another story... >>;
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Orestes
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Posted - 2003.12.23 20:41:00 -
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Ask the local gentry
And they will say it's elementary
hehe
Join the IC! |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2003.12.23 21:00:00 -
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Oh, I can see the resemblance now - I've seen that show on latenight BBC.
I've been told my character is very similar to the description by the author of the book the character name is taken from - it's something I tried to acheive.
Does the new Santa Hat make me look any better?
You may have to press Refresh to see the new sig
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Darketh Nightspawn
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Posted - 2003.12.23 21:14:00 -
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What about bookmarks? Insta-jump bookmarks should still work if there's no Warp Disrupter.
You will have to make your bookmarks more accurate to get you within 2500 meters..
Yes, but unfortunately I have a problem with 75% of my jumps. I jump into a system and end up 15km away from the gate to the next system, making my insta BM worthless and forcing me to spend several minutes approaching the gate.
Tough luck.....
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2003.12.23 21:46:00 -
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I don't think it will stop the******of your arkonor mining sessions though - we'll still pod your indies all day everyday.
It sure is fun isnt Joshua :P. But then the fun ends when a temepst MWDs by you and 4x Large sbs your Rifter 
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