Hi,

Thank you for finally looking into AF bonuses and finally giving the ret another mid slot. Love you so much for these things.

Instead of giving them all a bonus to the penalty (50%) on the sig radius for MWD's, how about a 200% 80% velocity bonus to frigate class Afterburners instead?

Most AF's are pretty tight to fit with AB's as it is. I personally think that an AB bonus would give them a unique role/niche in eve where they'd get used and be able to fit a more beefy tank instead of just being a high DPS interceptor.

Thanks for reading.

The fail is positively bubbling to the surface in this one.

Recap for the failures:
- 3 years ago or there about, CCP added a blanket AB speed bonus to AFs and had the concept tested on SiSi.
- Prior to SiSi testing the players cursed with common sense argued that it would make them so hilariously OP that not only would nothing else be used except in blobs but pilots would never be able to stop laughing maniacally when flying them.
- We (yes, I am burdened with common sense) further argued that it would widen the performance gaps within the AF class to an untenable degree.
- Testing proved both points to be bang on in all respects .. common sense: 2, Idiocy: 0.

Now you suggest a bonus that is even higher than the one tested in addition to added slots and tanks?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,
/me takes in extra air
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha.....

Why do they get a role bonus at all? All we were asking for was the 4th bonus and something doen about the Retri's mids.

I don't like the AB idea since that steps on the toes of AB interceptors. But I blame the MWD nerf too for problems like that.

No role bonus to AFs at all sounds fine to me.

They aren't tackle ships, as 3 classes for said ships already exist, one of which is *heavy* tackle.
Interceptors, Interdictors, & Heavy Interdictors.

The middle ground would be somewhere around 1400m/s (ship depending), which is a 50% speed bonus:
- barely faster than a cruiser (1600 thorax is 1200m/s, 1800 overloaded)
- still insanely overpowered if said ships actually get the tackle or combat missile boats

AFs are like Miniature HACs.
HACs are geared to go toe to toe with the T1 ships over them, Battlecruisers.
By relation AFs are geared to go toe to toe with T1 cruisers.

heavy combat ship standings:
T1 Frigate < AFs ~= T1 Cruisers
T1 Cruisers < HACs ~= T1 Battlecruisers
T1 Battlecruisers < Command Ships ~= T1 Battleships

That's how the game would live up when the AFs go through.

I'd prefer a bonus making Assault Frigates invulnerable to Warp Scramblers myself :).