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John WarpingSlow
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Posted - 2016.11.18 11:56:20 -
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pow demonic wrote:I am not sure what the devs mean by a "remuneration of the SP"
Remuneration = Give back to you (probably as unallocated skillpoints that you can then re-allocate to whatever skill you want.)
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CCP Contra
C C P C C P Alliance
16
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Posted - 2016.11.18 14:50:35 -
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John WarpingSlow wrote:pow demonic wrote:I am not sure what the devs mean by a "remuneration of the SP" Remuneration = Give back to you (probably as unallocated skillpoints that you can then re-allocate to whatever skill you want.)
Most definitely. We will give the loss SP as unallocated. |
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Psymon Sezz
Burning Skies Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2016.11.18 19:53:47 -
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CCP Contra wrote:John WarpingSlow wrote:pow demonic wrote:I am not sure what the devs mean by a "remuneration of the SP" Remuneration = Give back to you (probably as unallocated skillpoints that you can then re-allocate to whatever skill you want.) Most definitely. We will give the loss SP as unallocated.
What about in cases such as mine?
I was training to Fighter hanger management level 4 with a bunch of short 8 hour type skills after. During all of this Hanger management has trained 2% into level 5.
I am not 100% sure but I do not believe I have "lost" any skill points they are just allocated incorrectly. |
Chi-Hua Tan
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.11.18 20:04:05 -
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pow demonic wrote:yeah I had mining barge 5 and now it is lvl 4 and because of that I have lost time on training astrogeology to 5 I am not sure what the devs mean by a "remuneration of the SP" as I have no idea what that word means but I hope this gets fixed soon Well in my case I expect it means that all of the skills I had formerly trained that got readded to the queue and are currently training will be awarded as surplus SP to be otherwise allocated, because I'm not messing with a thing related to the skill queue unill this is resolved.
e. or as was stated already by CCP |
Tanner Marqual
Non Igitur Obicere
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Posted - 2016.11.18 23:12:39 -
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I am curious whether the devs are including the resolution for the disappearing boosters in this fix or if that is separate. Also - will the fix for the misallocated skill points resolve the issue of completed skills not showing up in training history?
Bah, I don't sign anything...
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HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1827
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Posted - 2016.11.18 23:20:11 -
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Maybe CCP is fixing this.
But the play time is lost... the subscription should be reimbursed... |
powdemonic Ellecon
Moosearmy Moose Federation
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Posted - 2016.11.19 08:45:04 -
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CCP Contra wrote:John WarpingSlow wrote:pow demonic wrote:I am not sure what the devs mean by a "remuneration of the SP" Remuneration = Give back to you (probably as unallocated skillpoints that you can then re-allocate to whatever skill you want.) Most definitely. We will give the loss SP as unallocated. oh cool |
Philippa Padecain
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.11.19 11:10:51 -
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CCP Contra wrote: At the moment we are working on a script that will compensate all users for their SP loss on their queue. I will keep people posted on the progress.
It is probably too much to ask, but is there an ETA for when a fix will be available? I have four accounts and all suffer from this. I don't feel confident to play with the skill training without a fix.
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Richard Airuta
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.19 11:36:44 -
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Philippa Padecain wrote:CCP Contra wrote: At the moment we are working on a script that will compensate all users for their SP loss on their queue. I will keep people posted on the progress.
It is probably too much to ask, but is there an ETA for when a fix will be available? I have four accounts and all suffer from this. I don't feel confident to play with the skill training without a fix.
Same here. I've been doing some low level mission running. I didn't play for a month while AFK and made a training queue 60+ days. When I logged in not one of those appeared to of trained, but API says a couple of my skills have surpassed the training cap. One of things we are going to have to sit back and await a response.
The ticket I made got me a generic non-transparent the OP mentioned previously as well. This thread seem to be a better way of tracking the progress.
I do have a question tho.
When I logged in my training queue had started again. When the first patch/fix was made would this of stopped our skills from training and therefore the 2 days or so after the patch I didn't know about it. Have I lost that potential SP? Would that be something that would be considered to be reimbursed? |
SiXiN
Mythic Inc Demonic Wheat Pineapple
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Posted - 2016.11.19 20:27:55 -
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I was in the process of purchasing a Character via the bazaar rules from a mate.
We brought the account online with a Plex, so 30days sub. For that 30 days, we cued up approx 30days worth of training. This included the following:
Command Center upgrades 4 Interplanetary Consolidation 4 Remote sensing 3 Planetary 3 Gallente Industrial 5
Now over the last 28 days or so it trained through all of that, and by the day of the Expansion release it had approx 18 hours of Gallente Industrial 5 left and approx 3 days of sub left.
We were going to transfer the character after the expansion was released.
The expansion is released we login, and find that the character has lost ALL of the training it did for the previous 28 days, and is in the process of retraining the skill cue again.
After spending about 20mins going through trying to understand where the skillpoints had gone, and please be ware according tot he API it hasn't lost any SP, its just not on the skills we had cued up, we found that the character had skilled Command center upgrades 5 completely and we suspect some SP has gone onto other skills as well.
Because of this issue, we held off on the transfer of the character and petitioned CCP due to the issue. The account has NOW dropped to Alpha clone status, and stopped skilling all together because the skills in the cue are Omega skills.
So not only have we lost the skills we cued, we have wasted 30days worth of sub and now have to plex the account again to be able to carry out the character transfer as previously planned, mainly because CCP has yet to respond to the support ticket. |
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Jacques Arakasi
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.11.20 18:47:39 -
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Has sp been applied to the characters who lost? I seem to have had sp applied on all my toons " did have some saved from before" |
Rastuasi
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2016.11.21 01:08:15 -
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Jacques Arakasi wrote:Has sp been applied to the characters who lost? I seem to have had sp applied on all my toons " did have some saved from before"
Nope, that's probably residual from other times. |
Honey Leyla
T.I.T.A.N.
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Posted - 2016.11.21 16:37:53 -
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hi all,
i have activated my account after Release. I saw, i lost 49 Million SP: My char has now in word 50000 sp. and the Caldari Frigate Skill has 49.030.000 /512.000. Also all my skillpoints are now in Caldari Frigatte with 49 Million Skillpoints. I have created a Ticket. The GM says me, i must wait for a solution. |
Rastuasi
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2016.11.21 18:02:52 -
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Yes, GMs stated many times it's a global wide issue and will NOT be solved in individual tickets. As stated in the thread they will be doing a mass script update to affected characters. If your character is truly affected, it'll eventually be fixed, just be patient. |
Philippa Padecain
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.11.21 18:21:09 -
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I just hope that whenever they get around to fixing this, that they'll allow us to reset the quite arbitary skills that these skillpoints were dumped into. I didn't have the Minmatar Drone Specialisation skill in my skillqueue, and I didn't intend it to skill to level 5. Yet when Eve dumped the points into that skill, it pushed it above level 5. I'd like my skillpoints back so that I can put them in the skills I have chosen. |
Aurora Aetern
Slurm Centralized Industrial Fabrication Unit Zaibatsu Mercantile
10
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Posted - 2016.11.21 23:16:33 -
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I think there are two options that are the most fair to the players that CCP can take. Each option should return SP as free SP and anywhere from 2.5%-10% bonus free SP, with the least amount of misallocated SP receiving the most and the most (say 15+mil) receiving the least bonus SP.
One option is to refund all skills over level V. I assume this would be the simpler solution, as the hard limits for SP per skill already exist and should be easier to revert to. The problem with this is that many people did not want a certain skill trained to x level and would therefore have lost potential SP trained into skills they wished to have.
The other option is to refund all skills trained since last login (e.g. all skillpoints allocated by the error and since then, including skills trained normally or SP injected normally since the Ascension update). This would be the most fair option, giving players the choice of skills that they would like to put the refunded SP into. However, this also has a big problem in that some players have titanic amounts of SP trained since last login, like the 49 million SP seen above. This may essentially give some players a skillpoint reset for them to do as they wish, but for free and without the SP loss associated with using Skill Extractors and Skill Injectors above 5mil SP. Additionally, this must be done soon, as the further we get from the Ascension update the more problematic this option will become.
There are problems with both solutions, and neither option would be completely fair to all players. I'm fairly certain CCP will choose an option most fair to all players, and I am sure that they have a plan to tackle this probably better than what I have written above. However, further delay will only yield further impatience. I was not greatly affected by the SP bug, but I'm sure many players were, and I implore CCP, whatever you do, please do it soon! |
Winter duFallen
Empty Vessels
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Posted - 2016.11.21 23:51:23 -
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Oh, thank you! I thought I was going insane. I took a 2 year break and ships I had fitted and could use were no longer usable. I was beating my head in trying to figure out what happened. |
Aurora Aetern
Slurm Centralized Industrial Fabrication Unit Zaibatsu Mercantile
10
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Posted - 2016.11.22 03:27:55 -
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Winter duFallen wrote:Oh, thank you! I thought I was going insane. I took a 2 year break and ships I had fitted and could use were no longer usable. I was beating my head in trying to figure out what happened.
This is a separate matter. I think what you've experienced is going from subbed status to Alpha clone status. Alpha clones can only train and use a limited number of skills. If you trained the skills before, you won't lose them, they just won't affect your gameplay until you become an Omega clone (subbed or plexed) again. |
Rastuasi
The Dark Space Initiative Scary Wormhole People
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Posted - 2016.11.22 14:19:17 -
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Winter, are you a paid account? If you took an actual break where your account was deactivated, this doesn't apply to you. If you've come back and are not paying, the free account access has a limit on which skills can be used, making the extra ones trained inert until you pay. |
Roxie Glitz
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.11.23 01:20:52 -
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Lost heavy fighters V to this bug on my super alt. Any ETA on a fix? |
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Disembodied Head
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2016.11.23 03:31:11 -
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Crickets for days.
Though as they pointed out, they are checking for fringe cases to ensure the script/whatever will cover their bases.
I too am now short a ton of SP. :/ |
Rime Heimdall
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2016.11.23 12:26:34 -
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Can you please tell us when there will be a fix for this? At least an estimate, like, sometime this year, or this month, or week. |
Leroyy Jenkinss
Mythic Inc Demonic Wheat Pineapple
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Posted - 2016.11.24 11:09:24 -
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Alright we know you guys are trying to correct the issue, but could we CCPlease get an eta on how long it'll take to get to most of the tickets? |
John WarpingSlow
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Posted - 2016.11.24 11:46:21 -
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CCP Contra wrote:Most definitely. We will give the loss SP as unallocated.
Any idea how much longer before the corrective script you mentioned will be ready to run on Tranquility?
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Genji Tanakara
Phoenix Intelligence Army of New Eden
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Posted - 2016.11.25 12:26:31 -
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I noticed I got a good chunk of SP refunded. Anyone else get a injection of SP due to the skill loss issue? |
Richard Airuta
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 12:53:31 -
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Genji Tanakara wrote:I noticed I got a good chunk of SP refunded. Anyone else get a injection of SP due to the skill loss issue?
I had some refunded but not all. I did get about 9 or 10 days worth of SP. When I noticed the SP overtrained my skill queue restarted so I have no idea how long it was paused for and if the SP lost within that period was taken into account. But I'm happy I got 9 skills out of the way now tho. |
HandelsPharmi
Pharmi on CharBazaar
1827
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Posted - 2016.11.25 13:13:43 -
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Well CCP should refund the days lost / the char could not be played as before.
SPs do not hurt CCP, they could refund even 100M SPs for a small mistake. But it would hurt, if they would have to reimburst 60 days of game time. |
Richard Airuta
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 13:23:19 -
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HandelsPharmi wrote:Well CCP should refund the days lost / the char could not be played as before.
SPs do not hurt CCP, they could refund even 100M SPs for a small mistake. But it would hurt, if they would have to reimburst 60 days of game time.
I noticed I had less SP than I should of have. Just made a petition. Somehow my 11m SP is now 9.8m after using the unallocated skill points. Somehow I ended up worse off or I've missed something. |
Servi Tor
LONE STAR MINING AND DEFENSE LTD
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Posted - 2016.11.25 15:48:25 -
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I suspect this is going to be a hard issue to fix, when you factor in all the possible elements. I have a new (Omega) toon that lost their Prototype Cerebral Accelerator just one day into use - all boosters got reset on patch day, inc Blood Raider Accelerators on my chars.
Would be great to at least get an update from CCP as to whether they are close to a solution... |
Seythia Song
So Fat Lolicore Corporation
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Posted - 2016.11.25 16:06:17 -
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Lost like 2m skillpoints today after downtime. One of my turrets got offline and didnt want to go online cuz not enough powergrid and when i looked into my skills i found out advanced weapon upgrades went from 5 to 0. |
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