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Ashera Yune
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.12.24 00:58:00 -
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Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke. War Decs should be painful and hardcore like other lower security pvp. The system needs to be made High Sec War Decs are crippling and demanding to both the aggressor and the aggressed.
Both parties are automatically placed 75 km away from the station when an engagement occurs. You will have to either burn 75km to the station or burn 75km away to warp to it, assuming you are not pointed. your Choice.
Neutral reppers will gain the same aggression as the target and will be automatically sent 75 km away from the station at the same spot of where the engagement occurs.
This means that neither party can use the station as a means of cover.
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
164
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Posted - 2011.12.24 01:19:00 -
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Ashera Yune wrote:Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke. War Decs should be painful and hardcore like other lower security pvp. The system needs to be made High Sec War Decs are crippling and demanding to both the aggressor and the aggressed.
Both parties are automatically placed 75 km away from the station when an engagement occurs. You will have to either burn 75km to the station or burn 75km away to warp to it, assuming you are not pointed. your Choice.
Neutral reppers will gain the same aggression as the target and will be automatically sent 75 km away from the station at the same spot of where the engagement occurs.
This means that neither party can use the station as a means of cover.
This coming from an NPC'er.
First off...they are very painful..its called denial of freedom in high sec....freedom to blow up ship and pod at-will.
Secondly.... post with your main...or please kindly go away because your solution is highly irrational and smells of rage/tear fest of a bitter greifer and not the victim of a war dec.
Station games can be solved by being clever when it comes to tactics....make them come to you....dont bother camping them..you want to beat them by camping...fit for alpha strike and large numbers.
1 Shot 1 kill...simple.
PS: station games are always a point of contention...this i wont deny...but your attitude doesn't reflect someone interested in dealing with it from both sides of the fence...only the agressor side. |

reaver2145
shot from the dark Mortal Destruction
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Posted - 2011.12.24 02:57:00 -
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BRING MORE DPS |

Simi Kusoni
HelloKittyFanclub
7
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Posted - 2011.12.24 07:20:00 -
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Problem: You hate station games.
Solution: Fight on gates. |

Maxsim Goratiev
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
29
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Posted - 2011.12.24 10:27:00 -
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what do you mean buy gtting moved to 75 km away? like If i am sitting at the station at 0, and someone shooots me i teleport away from it? It simply does not make sence. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
197
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Posted - 2011.12.24 17:46:00 -
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grief corp declares war on highsec corp highsec corp litterally cannot do anything about it, wardecs are pretty much free, so....
the problem is griefer corps not the highsec corps. war dec prices are should be increased by a factor of 5 at least. |

Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
503
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Posted - 2011.12.24 19:28:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:grief corp declares war on highsec corp highsec corp litterally cannot do anything about it, wardecs are pretty much free, so....
the problem is griefer corps not the highsec corps. war dec prices are should be increased by a factor of 5 at least.
I see... so fighting back in "literally impossible" for you pubbies? |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
965
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Posted - 2011.12.24 21:04:00 -
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I love capital station games.
And they dont even need hisec or wardecs. |

Tiger's Spirit
Troll Hunters INC.
28
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Posted - 2011.12.25 07:56:00 -
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Ashera Yune wrote:Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke. War Decs should be painful and hardcore like other lower security pvp. The system needs to be made High Sec War Decs are crippling and demanding to both the aggressor and the aggressed.
Both parties are automatically placed 75 km away from the station when an engagement occurs. You will have to either burn 75km to the station or burn 75km away to warp to it, assuming you are not pointed. your Choice.
Neutral reppers will gain the same aggression as the target and will be automatically sent 75 km away from the station at the same spot of where the engagement occurs.
This means that neither party can use the station as a means of cover.
??? The solution is, longer docking time rule when somebody aggressing at station. (1 minute now) Increasing to 15 minute, same as the aggression timer. The neutral repping is an another story. Forbid docking too as a combatant. |

Maxsim Goratiev
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
30
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Posted - 2011.12.25 15:09:00 -
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Neutral reppers need to be nuked from orbit. So do the station games. Then we can talk about wardeks being serious bisyness. |

Smiling Menace
Star Nebulae Holdings Inc.
79
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Posted - 2011.12.25 17:54:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote:Ashera Yune wrote:Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke. War Decs should be painful and hardcore like other lower security pvp. The system needs to be made High Sec War Decs are crippling and demanding to both the aggressor and the aggressed.
Both parties are automatically placed 75 km away from the station when an engagement occurs. You will have to either burn 75km to the station or burn 75km away to warp to it, assuming you are not pointed. your Choice.
Neutral reppers will gain the same aggression as the target and will be automatically sent 75 km away from the station at the same spot of where the engagement occurs.
This means that neither party can use the station as a means of cover.
This coming from an NPC'er. First off...they are very painful..its called denial of freedom in high sec....freedom to blow up ship and pod at-will. Secondly.... post with your main...or please kindly go away because your solution is highly irrational and smells of rage/tear fest of a bitter greifer and not the victim of a war dec. Station games can be solved by being clever when it comes to tactics....make them come to you....dont bother camping them..you want to beat them by camping...fit for alpha strike and large numbers. 1 Shot 1 kill...simple. PS: station games are always a point of contention...this i wont deny...but your attitude doesn't reflect someone interested in dealing with it from both sides of the fence...only the agressor side.
This man said it all. Close the thread now. |

Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises Purpose Built
109
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Posted - 2011.12.25 18:44:00 -
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Please don't remove station games, then I won't be able to quickly grab easy loot from those at war.
The only way to remove station games is either remove war decs ( ) or add a stupid arbitrary mechanic as suggested in the OP. Both are bad ideas (IMO). |

Goose99
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
382
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Posted - 2011.12.25 21:46:00 -
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Ashera Yune wrote:Station games are rather lame and make High Sec War Decs a Joke.
Wardec is a joke independent of station games.
Make any sov-holding entity autodecced, shootable by anyone without concordken, able to return fire once aggressed. |

Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
26
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Posted - 2011.12.25 22:30:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Make any sov-holding entity autodecced, shootable by anyone without concordken, able to return fire once aggressed. 
Everyone should be required to be in a player alliance or a corp aligned to an NPC faction in order to access any meaningful ISK sources, and all those entities and players linked to them should automatically be at war with one another based on standings etc.
..and yes station games are pretty lame, that could use improvement, but not another means of PvP avoidance while making lots of ISK.
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
167
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Posted - 2011.12.25 22:44:00 -
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Xorv wrote:Goose99 wrote:Make any sov-holding entity autodecced, shootable by anyone without concordken, able to return fire once aggressed.  Everyone should be required to be in a player alliance or a corp aligned to an NPC faction in order to access any meaningful ISK sources, and all those entities and players linked to them should automatically be at war with one another based on standings etc. ..and yes station games are pretty lame, that could use improvement, but not another means of PvP avoidance while making lots of ISK.
Those who wish to PVP must pay a monthly tax to CONCORD for wreck removal and clean up.....
Oh wait.. Im sorry...you said pvp avoidance is bad... I figured you wantted to FORCE people to play the game YOU wantted them too.... so its only fair right?
Funny aint it? |

Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
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Posted - 2011.12.25 23:02:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote: Those who wish to PVP must pay a monthly tax to CONCORD for wreck removal and clean up.....
That doesn't make any sense, Ninja Salvagers would do that for free. Didn't understand what you're trying to say with the rest of your post, but I'm assuming it made even less sense. |

Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
167
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Posted - 2011.12.25 23:06:00 -
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Xorv wrote:Drake Draconis wrote: Those who wish to PVP must pay a monthly tax to CONCORD for wreck removal and clean up.....
That doesn't make any sense, Ninja Salvagers would do that for free. Didn't understand what you're trying to say with the rest of your post, but I'm assuming it made even less sense.
Aparently you don't speak sracastic-ese...let alone bother to think before you post.
EVE Online is EVE Online...not PVP Online...not PVE Online..not Hello Kitty Online.
If you cant figure that out...you have no business making such foolish statments.
PS: still don't get it? it was a joke....derp derp CONCORD taxing PVP'ers for wrecks left behind is a little obvious..but so was your statement about forcing players into war-dec'd NPC corps just as much as a stupid joke as mine. |

Nicolo da'Vicenza
Divine Power. Cascade Imminent
163
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Posted - 2011.12.25 23:55:00 -
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fix station games enable wardec reform |

MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University Minmatar Republic
99
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Posted - 2011.12.26 00:25:00 -
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The obvious solution is If you don't like station games, then don't play them.
I'd suggest you go find someone that is willing to shoot back but I suspect that isn't really what you're looking for. |

Herping yourDerp
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
199
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Posted - 2011.12.26 01:43:00 -
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Feligast wrote:Herping yourDerp wrote:grief corp declares war on highsec corp highsec corp litterally cannot do anything about it, wardecs are pretty much free, so....
the problem is griefer corps not the highsec corps. war dec prices are should be increased by a factor of 5 at least. I see... so fighting back in "literally impossible" for you pubbies?
what would that accomplish? nothing, giving enemy a fight is what they want
and pubbie? person plays game for fun<--no pubbie person plays game specifically to target weaker players <-- pubbie detected. can't get touched in real life so needs the epeen to be loved. |

Xorv
Questionable Acquisitions
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Posted - 2011.12.26 02:09:00 -
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Drake Draconis wrote: PS: still don't get it? it was a joke....derp derp CONCORD taxing PVP'ers for wrecks left behind is a little obvious..but so was your statement about forcing players into war-dec'd NPC corps is just as much as a stupid joke as mine.
No, I was actually serious about that.
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Drake Draconis
Nexus Advanced Technologies Fidelas Constans
167
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Posted - 2011.12.26 04:44:00 -
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Xorv wrote:Drake Draconis wrote: PS: still don't get it? it was a joke....derp derp CONCORD taxing PVP'ers for wrecks left behind is a little obvious..but so was your statement about forcing players into war-dec'd NPC corps is just as much as a stupid joke as mine.
No, I was actually serious about that.
*epic facepalm*   |

ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
46
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Posted - 2011.12.26 11:42:00 -
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if at war the timer for redocking after just undocking should be increased by a factor of 10. also the aggresed corp/alliance could also grow a pair and organise and actually fight back. remember kids, inter corp communication is a good thing. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
272
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Posted - 2011.12.26 14:11:00 -
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This thread ended with the second post. Now Drake is in here having to ward off all the crap ideas with a stick. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
Support our boobies!-á[url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24221&find=unread[/url]
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Velicitia
Open Designs
245
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Posted - 2011.12.26 14:33:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:This thread ended with the second post. Now Drake is in here having to ward off all the crap ideas with a stick.
It's amusing though. Popcorn? |

FloppieTheBanjoClown
The Skunkworks Petition Blizzard
455
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Posted - 2011.12.26 15:19:00 -
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Just transfering aggression timers so that neutral logi can't dock will stop a lot of the stupidity that comes with highsec station games.
The rest: meh. We get plenty of kills on stations; usually without the use of RR (I think we've fielded a lone RR alt four times in all the engagements I've been in). It's all about getting your opponent to engage and then bringing overwhelming force on them before they realize their mistake and get back in the station. |

Takara Mora
University of Caille Gallente Federation
26
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:22:00 -
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Station Games - lame, but working as intended :) |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic Tragedy.
273
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Posted - 2011.12.26 17:26:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:This thread ended with the second post. Now Drake is in here having to ward off all the crap ideas with a stick. It's amusing though. Popcorn?
Please and thank you. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX!
Support our boobies!-á[url]https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=24221&find=unread[/url]
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Jack All'Trade
Republic University Minmatar Republic
10
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Posted - 2011.12.26 22:13:00 -
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Easy fix: Removing station campers automatically removes station games 
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