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Tassill Minmatar GREY COUNCIL Breidablik	Posted - 2007.04.05 06:33:00 - [91] Originally by: Admiral Pieg I trained hac 5 for reasons i cant explain (because i dont know) and so far ive found that they absolutely freakin suck in 1vs1. Whats the point of hacs? Honestly i dont get it... Why would anyone fly a deimos when a t1 fitted BC for 1/10th the price can pwn it? ^^ What he said Hacs serve a purpose, however you can always get the job done more cost effectivly with another ship.
mematar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.04.05 06:37:00 - [92] VAGABOND AND MUNINN! Not frickin Vagabound or Munnin!
Akita T Caldari Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.04.05 07:08:00 - [93] Public service announcement: since all of you seem to think Sacrileges are such crapy ships, I'll gladly take them off your hands for up to double the baseprice (so about 34 mil or close to), and relocate them to a good friend of mine who just loves flying them into all kinds of trouble. Not like they're much more expensive in the market to begin with, but hey, free stuff. Keep believing the Sacrilege sucks, it keeps the price down, so that those who can ACTUALLY use it properly (and keep using it, and hence end up losing it once in a while) keep having cheap replacements (one of the cheapest HACs on the market right now). _ MySkills \| Module/Rig stacknerfing explained
Ryysa North Face Force	Posted - 2007.04.05 08:41:00 - [94] Edited by: Ryysa on 05/04/2007 08:37:57 Originally by: Goumindong Ryssa, an Abaddon shouldnt be shield tanked because with 3 slots[inj/inv/sb/sba] after the injector you run an excess of low slots and the cap use on the Abaddon is so heavy combined with the armor tanking bonus. I.E. you leave extra slots and a bonus to waste. An armor tanked vaga leaves nothing to waste, it just isnt as fast. 5 lows is plenty for a tank, and 4 mids makes a perfect set for the 4 typical mids. The only thing prohibiting the vaga from doing so is that such a fit is more riskier than the speed fit and the ship costs 260m isk to buy the hull. If you were seeing vagas down near production prices then such a fit would definitly make sense. But now, with 230m of outlay in the hull let alone the fittings, protecting it as much as possible is the name of the game. You still don't get it do you? you have 10% Expl and 25% kin, two huge holes in armor. That's why armortanking any t2 minmatar ships is idiotic. And that's why armortanking a vagabond is like shieldtanking your abaddon. Abaddon has great armor resists - if you shieldtank it you're really stupid. Vagabond has great shield resists - if you armortank it you're really stupid. Even if I had ALL the isk in the world I would NEVER armortank a vagabond, simply because a shieldtanked one would whoop my ass EVERY SINGLE TIME. Barrage = expl/kin, hmm let's think WHICH THE TWO LARGEST RESISTANCE HOLES ON MINMATAR ARMOR ARE? Come on, give it up already. In theory you can put shieldtank on a geddon, yet no one does it. No one armortanks sleipnir or rokh either. Also you have clearly 0 experience with flying a vagabond ingame, can you not consider that for a second? N.F.F. Recruitment
Denrace Amarr J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2007.04.05 11:27:00 - [95] To all these guys banging on about a Sacrilege as a heavy tackler... You jump a Sac into even a small-ish gang, and its gonna go down pretty fast. I don't care how many reps or cap charges you have. It won't be instapop, but it doesn't tank half as good as some of you make out. Den ________________________________________ Holder of 21 Hobo Points. See my bio for info
Redbad Minmatar Be Inspired Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.10 16:13:00 - [96] Originally by: Akita T Public service announcement: since all of you seem to think Sacrileges are such crapy ships, I'll gladly take them off your hands for up to double the baseprice (so about 34 mil or close to), and relocate them to a good friend of mine who just loves flying them into all kinds of trouble. Not like they're much more expensive in the market to begin with, but hey, free stuff. Keep believing the Sacrilege sucks, it keeps the price down, so that those who can ACTUALLY use it properly (and keep using it, and hence end up losing it once in a while) keep having cheap replacements (one of the cheapest HACs on the market right now). If Akita is interested in buying, so am I. I wil raise him by 1%. I like his trading nose. join us today!
Angus McLean Gallente Divinity Trials	Posted - 2007.04.10 17:37:00 - [97] Edited by: Angus McLean on 10/04/2007 17:34:42 Originally by: Akita T Public service announcement: since all of you seem to think Sacrileges are such crapy ships, I'll gladly take them off your hands for up to double the baseprice (so about 34 mil or close to), and relocate them to a good friend of mine who just loves flying them into all kinds of trouble. Not like they're much more expensive in the market to begin with, but hey, free stuff. Keep believing the Sacrilege sucks, it keeps the price down, so that those who can ACTUALLY use it properly (and keep using it, and hence end up losing it once in a while) keep having cheap replacements (one of the cheapest HACs on the market right now). Your bio says (On you skills page) you cant even fly a Sacreliege. Until you have valid proof that youve even seen one, touched one or much less flown one, dont talk about sac pilots like that. "so that those who can ACTUALLY use it properly" Until you use it, please dont pretend that all pilots in eve that fly sacs suck except your 'friend'. Many people with 4x your SP have attempted to fly the Sac and stopped flying it for various reasons. Im fairly sure that they stopped flying it for a reason... Edit: And yes it is the cheapest HAC. And its not cheap just because people on the forums say its terrible, its because people in eve fly it and determine its terrible. Then they proceed in not buying a second one, hence prices go down. ---------------- Freedom Of Speech Band of Brothers T-shirt
James Adams Minmatar CCCP INC	Posted - 2007.04.10 17:47:00 - [98] Originally by: Angus McLean Edited by: Angus McLean on 10/04/2007 17:34:42 Your bio says (On you skills page) you cant even fly a Sacreliege. Until you have valid proof that youve even seen one, touched one or much less flown one, dont talk about sac pilots like that. "so that those who can ACTUALLY use it properly" Until you use it, please dont pretend that all pilots in eve that fly sacs suck except your 'friend'. Many people with 4x your SP have attempted to fly the Sac and stopped flying it for various reasons. Im fairly sure that they stopped flying it for a reason... Edit: And yes it is the cheapest HAC. And its not cheap just because people on the forums say its terrible, its because people in eve fly it and determine its terrible. Then they proceed in not buying a second one, hence prices go down. Talk about totally missing the point of Akita's post... hint: Akita's friend seems to be of the same mind as you - that Sacrileges are not such bad ships
Angus McLean Gallente Divinity Trials	Posted - 2007.04.10 17:55:00 - [99] Edited by: Angus McLean on 10/04/2007 17:52:13 Originally by: James Adams Talk about totally missing the point of Akita's post... hint: Akita's friend seems to be of the same mind as you - that Sacrileges are not such bad ships Maybe I misread the post for sure, happens once in a while on my part. But once I read the "So that people who can actually use it properly" came around, I had to laugh. But feel free to post your setup Akita So if I did misread what you wrote, forgive my offensive whiplash ---------------- Freedom Of Speech Band of Brothers T-shirt

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