Any one else sick of just being a glorified drone of the FC in large fleet fights?

Any one else sick of just being a glorified drone of the FC in large fleet fights?
Follow the leader, "shoot target blehbleh". "Secondary BlehBleh". "Don't go off anchor BLEH BLEH BLEH". "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING IN MY FLEET WITH THAT SHIP"

And my favorite "BROADCAST FOR REPS FASTER YOUR NOT PAYING ATTENTION ENOUGH" When the enemy are locking and alpha'ing our ships off field in under 3 server ticks.

Fix this crap CCP before all these new alphas realize just how crap fleet fights above 10v10 are. EVE is nothing like it's trailers.

It's entirely CCP that needs to solve it.
Because sooner or later people get sick of this being the END game.. When everything else is stripped away and you've got all your empire and ships and you've built you fortress in the stars it's this game play style that it all comes down to. And it needs to change. Because if you go ask people who played Eve for months, years even a decade and left i would wager that you can with exception of Real life reasons it's this crap tastic way of playing that they have got sick of. And it's down to CCP to sort it the hell out. Eve pvp is fantastic in solo or small groups. It is amazing in brawl engagements. But as soon as it becomes a big fight between two doctrines (the most efficient way to win) it is boring as crap. Often in tidi that compounds the issue and just makes you wish you never came along. You go into ANY big alliance and see if they dont constantly struggle to get people in fleets in the right ships doing as their FC tells them. Why? BECAUSE NO ONE LIKES THOSE FLEETS. Yes they are the most efficient.
Yes that is the current mechanic.

NO that does not mean it is right or FUN. Until CCP fix it no matter the gimmick the game will be in decline. Because only fun games grow.

You are wrong. It is not a mechanic. Fitting your ship is a mechanic, but not doctrines. They are player made. And your complain about tidi, it is your right to create a new kind of quantum super server and better transmitter than fiber-optic communications.
I guess than we will be able to fight big battles without tidi.

Go ahead and do it. I would appreciate your efforts.

A 1000 man fleet operation (that's 4 full fleets) would just get too convoluted with more fleet commanders. One fleet with 250 pilots and one commander is usually more effective than 5 fleets with 50 ships each and one commander each. The reason for this is that with the number of logistics and FAXes on field in such a situation, it is prudent to shoot a target with everything you have, so you can kill it before the logistics can respond. If you split up your damage, you may not be able to break the target against the reps, end up killing slower than the enemy fleet does and lose the fight.

The FC will therefore have his mainline DPS ships anchor on him, so he knows if everyone is in range, and then call a target to be murdered as quickly as possible. Rinse, repeat.

Of course, even in those big fleet engagements (that are as has been stated completely avoidable and certainly not "the end game") this only applies to mainline DPS ships. Logistics, Tackle, Electronic Warfare, Command Ships and Command Destroyers all have more demanding tasks on their hands. So, even if OP believes that he needs to take part in the null blob, he could just opt to not be a braindead F1 monkey and fly something interesting.

Any one else sick of just being a glorified drone of the FC in large fleet fights?
Follow the leader, "shoot target blehbleh". "Secondary BlehBleh". "Don't go off anchor BLEH BLEH BLEH". "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING IN MY FLEET WITH THAT SHIP"

And my favorite "BROADCAST FOR REPS FASTER YOUR NOT PAYING ATTENTION ENOUGH" When the enemy are locking and alpha'ing our ships off field in under 3 server ticks.

Fix this crap CCP before all these new alphas realize just how crap fleet fights above 10v10 are. EVE is nothing like it's trailers.

You can choose to fill roles other than the F1 'drone', as you call it, in large fleets. Many simply prefer the damage role but you should look at these:

1. Logistics. For some reason this is what the healing class is called in EVE. (Confusingly, actual logistics (moving stuff about) is also very important.) Fleet logi is very important and can be very challenging to do well.

2. Scouting. Be one of the people who scouts ahead of the fleet either looking for targets or making sure there is nothing nasty waiting for the main fleet.

3. Interdiction. Fly interdictors in nullsec to bubble enemy fleets and strategically bubble gates, warp-ins etc.

4. Fast tackle. Self explanatory.

5. Utility. Fly a long-range webbing ship, or long-range tackle.

6. Boosting. Fly a Command Destroyer with the links your fleet needs. This is now an active role.

It is your choice. If you don't have the flexibility to fly these sorts of roles in your corp then leave it and find a better one.

The fact that people forget there are a lot of roles beside "mainline DPS" in large fleet is quite fun.

Any one else sick of just being a glorified drone of the FC in large fleet fights?
Follow the leader, "shoot target blehbleh". "Secondary BlehBleh". "Don't go off anchor BLEH BLEH BLEH". "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING IN MY FLEET WITH THAT SHIP"

And my favorite "BROADCAST FOR REPS FASTER YOUR NOT PAYING ATTENTION ENOUGH" When the enemy are locking and alpha'ing our ships off field in under 3 server ticks.

Fix this crap CCP before all these new alphas realize just how crap fleet fights above 10v10 are. EVE is nothing like it's trailers.

OP. Perhaps you should consider trying to develop different command tactics. As was pointed out there are many other ways of playing the game. But the reason why your fleet battles are so dull is because you fall into the trap of DPS/tank warfare and focus fire. It is entirely possible for you to create a different warfare doctrine. One which is more imaginative.

Why don't you try working on a skirmish and manoeuvre doctrine? Divide your fleet into separate mobility elements and try skirmish warfare. If you move away from the blob warfare, and actually cultivate the ability in your fleet elements, and the ability of your pilots to synchronise their own manoeuvre with the fleet perhaps you can find a different metagame which is more enjoyable and fun?

Another possibility is to combine this with information warfare. ECM, Damps, and ECM Bursts. Circle the enemy blob with multiple squadrons.. Try operating as that 10 man fleet which you so enjoy, and then try coordinating that with 3 or 4 equally capable 10 man fleets and you might be able to create something fun and interesting.

If you can create an effective fleet which allows individual initiative you will have a much more enjoyable experience... Who knows? You might even be more effective. It's up to you.

Soldiers win battles in wars yet generals are the one that get remembered..

basically for some unknown reasons there are people who will defend poor mechanics until their dying breath. Even though everyone else disagrees with them. They come from every angle saying either it's a sandbox it's not CCPs fault through to totally bias opinions. Even when you can go into the mass public outside of their box and get a specific testament telling them otherwise. they will then say well go find a different game.

The fact is Eve is a Spaceship game. It should not be playing like a WORLD OF WARCRAFT CLONE with Healer, tanks and ranger class. There was a time when Eve did not have Logistics ships or big fleet of thousands and no doctrines. It was better. It was more fun. And it felt more like spaceships. Eve will suffer as long as the current large fleet mechanics remain the same.
CCP like it or not can force this to change and should. Large fleet fights should be chaotic and Crazy and fun. Not dancing around each others blop picking off one at a time.

Because sooner or later people get sick of this being the END game..

basically for some unknown reasons there are people who will defend poor mechanics until their dying breath. Even though everyone else disagrees with them. They come from every angle saying either it's a sandbox it's not CCPs fault through to totally bias opinions. Even when you can go into the mass public outside of their box and get a specific testament telling them otherwise. they will then say well go find a different game.

The fact is Eve is a Spaceship game. It should not be playing like a WORLD OF WARCRAFT CLONE with Healer, tanks and ranger class. There was a time when Eve did not have Logistics ships or big fleet of thousands and no doctrines. It was better. It was more fun. And it felt more like spaceships. Eve will suffer as long as the current large fleet mechanics remain the same.
CCP like it or not can force this to change and should. Large fleet fights should be chaotic and Crazy and fun. Not dancing around each others blop picking off one at a time.

basically for some unknown reasons there are people who will defend poor mechanics until their dying breath. Even though everyone else disagrees with them. They come from every angle saying either it's a sandbox it's not CCPs fault through to totally bias opinions. Even when you can go into the mass public outside of their box and get a specific testament telling them otherwise. they will then say well go find a different game.

The fact is Eve is a Spaceship game. It should not be playing like a WORLD OF WARCRAFT CLONE with Healer, tanks and ranger class. There was a time when Eve did not have Logistics ships or big fleet of thousands and no doctrines. It was better. It was more fun. And it felt more like spaceships. Eve will suffer as long as the current large fleet mechanics remain the same.
CCP like it or not can force this to change and should. Large fleet fights should be chaotic and Crazy and fun. Not dancing around each others blop picking off one at a time.