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Weatherman
Gallente
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.03 17:25:00 -
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as a member of a "pet" alliance at the lowly grunt level, I can tell you that I don't really think about it that much. Then again, I don't have a very big e-peen. It's not the word itself that is offensive, it's how people use it. You can call me a pet, muppet, slave, tenant, vassal whatever, but if you're a coalition guy trying to be offensive I'm sure you'll find a way to make it sound offensive, regardless of what word you use.
Are we subservient to bob? TBH, I don't know enough about the inner workings of my alliance to say. It seems to be a mutually respectful relationship to me. I'm sure BoB could crush us if they wanted. But even if they couldn't I'd prolly still do what they said just because they're really good at what they do and its fun flying with them. I'm sure my enemies can twist that into a bad thing, but in the end I'm having a lot of fun collaborating with BoB and I'm increasing my player skills at the same time.
So if people are preoccupied with maps, that's fine by me. And if you define your corp/alliance by how that map represents you, then ok. That's just not what I care about when I log in.
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Weatherman
Gallente
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.03 17:38:00 -
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I think the main point is that the relationship between BoB and their "pets" makes all parties involved stronger. Our enemies don't like that and so they try to undermine it. We generally ignore their attempts and let the insults roll off our backs.
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Weatherman
Gallente
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.03 18:18:00 -
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 Originally by: PaddyPaddy Nihildarnik
But I feel that is what seperates at a core level those who fight for bob and those who resist. A sense of honor, respect and pride. Thats what ive found flying under the Coalition banner, whether it be an RA guy in local throwing a o/ cose he only speaks Russian, or a random hodge podge gang thrown together to bust out some random coalition members camped into a system at the drop of a hat that they have never met before.
It's pretty common to dehumanize your enemies and think that they don't have the same sorts of emotions and pride that you do. It's not true tho. It's pretty standard in ANY alliance to say "what's up" to a friendly in local. And believe it or not, your enemies also have a sense of fraternity and help each other out when they need it.
As a member of FIX I have a deep sense of honor and pride in our alliance, and it has nothing to do with maps. It has to do with longevity and fortitude. Some people derisively call us meat shields, but I take pride in it. And I respect all of the allies who are willing to take a beating from 5-10 alliances and keep on standing.
Not only does it weed out the fairweather corp members, but there's nothing that promotes friendship like logging in and ganging up with the same group of people against ridiculous odds for a week straight. And when you do get help from BoB you don't feel like you're their pets, you feel like your brothers just brought in the cavalry.
So call us what you want and think of us as you will. We're proud of who we are.
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Weatherman
Gallente
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.03 23:25:00 -
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Originally by: Aphotic Raven
How do you think FIX became a pet alliance.
How are the mighty fallen 
It's nice to see bob pretending to see you as humans for a while... but win or lose, it wont last.
For a minute there I almost forgot I was posting on CAOD. Thanks for reminding me.
It's good to see that you think you have a special insight into FIX's interactions with other alliances. I'm just a grunt, so I admit that FIX's relationship with BoB isn't completely transparant to me. But I'm sure you're right, only people in the coalition can actually be friends with each other. Your enemies aren't capable of normal human interactions. 
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Weatherman
Gallente
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.04.04 21:23:00 -
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it's a shame, the way this thread started out I thought there might actually be some honest discussion on CAOD.
Before I leave you to your smack, I just want to point out that the coalition's tactic of trying to rile up bob's allies by calling them pets and slaves etc has almost no chance of working. No more than someone would quit their job because someone called them a corporate slave.
I'm sure the more intelligent members of the coalition can see that, so I'm convinced that most of the people on here are just venting because they're bitter and frustrated. In light of that, there's no reason to argue with you because it'll just be providing substance to the "pet" strawman you're trying to pound on.
You're probably better off just getting a stress ball to squeeze on tho...
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