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Marcus Binchiette
Pyrotech Creations
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:05:30 -
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Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature". |

Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:07:10 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature".
Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
13175
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:18:01 -
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Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature". Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?
While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here
Perfection is a dish best served like wasabi .
Bumble's Space Log
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Tarkanon Falsarth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:18:07 -
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came in looking for a minmatar ship thread, left disappointed... |

Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:19:28 -
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Nothing requires you to use features you find annoying.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Marcus Binchiette
Pyrotech Creations
8
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:22:13 -
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Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature". Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude?
A rookie ship is worth 0 ISK. It can, and often is trashed after arrival at destination. Which was in this case the pickup of another vessel. However, a momentary lapse in concentration meant that the fittings I was transporting for the new-to-be fitted ship were also trashed along with it.
I am not blaming CCP for my own error. I'm blaming CCP for CCP's error. which was to quote the estimate price of the vessel to be trashed as 0 ISK. When that price should have included the cargo it was carrying. I confirmed my intention to trash the ship. I didn't state that I wanted to trash the cargo it was carrying.
Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.
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Marcus Binchiette
Pyrotech Creations
8
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:25:11 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Nothing requires you to use features you find annoying.
You misunderstand. The function is useful. The "feature" is annoying. The option to trash ship is used and wanted. The mechanic whereby cargo contained in said ship is also trashed (instead of being transferred to the item bay) is annoying an unwanted.
Also, please consider that if you can't be bothered fixing things which I and other user find annoying. Then you should be prepared to read a lot of replies from said annoyed people. |

Marcus Binchiette
Pyrotech Creations
8
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:26:12 -
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Bumblefck wrote:
While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here
You obviously haven't logged in since the new expansion. Rookie ships are now classed as corvettes.
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Engage You
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
16
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:31:38 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature". Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude? A rookie ship is worth 0 ISK. It can, and often is trashed after arrival at destination. Which was in this case the pickup of another vessel. However, a momentary lapse in concentration meant that the fittings I was transporting for the new-to-be fitted ship were also trashed along with it. I am not blaming CCP for my own error. I'm blaming CCP for CCP's error. which was to quote the estimate price of the vessel to be trashed as 0 ISK. When that price should have included the cargo it was carrying. I confirmed my intention to trash the ship. I didn't state that I wanted to trash the cargo it was carrying. Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.
I think you just weren't clear in your op so people is giving you a hard time.
tldr: op wants tooltip to show price of ship including the items in the cargo hold
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
2464
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:31:40 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:Bumblefck wrote:
While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here
You obviously haven't logged in since the new expansion. Rookie ships are now classed as corvettes.
He needs a new pair of glasses...
When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
19253
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:32:38 -
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Bumblefck wrote:Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature". Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude? While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here Actually bumble, you might want to check that. The New Npe calls rookie ships Corvettes explicitly and repeatedly, Also one of the lads mentioned that they're called this somewhere else in the client too.
We now have a new tell on someone's age 
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Valkyrie Harkonnen
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:35:17 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. This is a very annoying "feature".
Why doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay.
Thats why you should revove those black glasses before playing!!!
Start your EVE Online experience with 250.000 extra skill points!
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
2741
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:38:19 -
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I accidentally threw away a box full of things I wanted and for some reason, the garbage men didn't realize that I had only wanted to throw away the box, and not the contents.
Can you believe those guys?
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1445
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:39:42 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.
You do remember what game this is, right? No one gives two flea infested rat sphincters about your "mood", princess. Take an aspirin and get over it.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Gheeeed
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:40:45 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. This is a very annoying "feature".
Why doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay.
Agreed. They should either include the value of items in cargo and/or automatically put cargo in station storage. Obvious design flaw the way it is now. |

Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1445
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:40:45 -
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Ralph King-Griffin wrote:Bumblefck wrote:Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature". Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude? While you're at it, try and remember that there are no corvettes in this game. This is not Wing Commander. There are no Kilrathi or Mark Hamill here Actually bumble, you might want to check that. The New Npe calls rookie ships Corvettes explicitly and repeatedly, Also one of the lads mentioned that they're called this somewhere else in the client too. We now have a new tell on someone's age 
I always thought they were called cyno ships.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1445
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:43:32 -
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Engage You wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature". Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude? A rookie ship is worth 0 ISK. It can, and often is trashed after arrival at destination. Which was in this case the pickup of another vessel. However, a momentary lapse in concentration meant that the fittings I was transporting for the new-to-be fitted ship were also trashed along with it. I am not blaming CCP for my own error. I'm blaming CCP for CCP's error. which was to quote the estimate price of the vessel to be trashed as 0 ISK. When that price should have included the cargo it was carrying. I confirmed my intention to trash the ship. I didn't state that I wanted to trash the cargo it was carrying. Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood. I think you just weren't clear in your op so people is giving you a hard time. tldr: op wants tooltip to show price of ship including the items in the cargo hold No, I was perfectly clear on what he wanted. I just don't ******* care. OP literally went somewhere, bought fittings for a ship, flew back, and trashed the ship he flew to buy the fittings before removing them from the cargo hold. The ship he literally used as the shopping cart.
That's just carelessness and I honestly have no interest in protecting people from their own stupidity.
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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u3pog
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
784
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:45:37 -
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Right now if you try to repackage a ship with cargo inside, it get's flushed to the inventory. Maybe they should do that with trash the option, or at least a warning message (an additional one, not the "are you absolutely sure you want to do this"). |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10943
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:45:55 -
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Remember kids;
Repackage anything and everything before you do anything with it. Even if you are going to trash something. Repackaging will make sure that all the juicy loot and stuff in any ship you are about to get rid of will be squeezed out.
Also... yeah... this is kind of your own fault OP.
Heh... I once lost an Atron-class frigate filled with VERY valuable loot. I had used it the previous day, blew up some people, docked, logged off and went to bed. The next day, I forgot to empty out the cargohold and instead undocked and went Leeroying around the area. Predictably, I died and lost everything. Oops. >_>
Live and learn.
How did you Veterans start?
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Gheeeed
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:47:42 -
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Elenahina wrote:Engage You wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:Just trashed a corvette. Immediately before realising it was still loaded with the fittings I'd purchased for the ship I was about to fit. Which doesn't the trash ship window include fitted items and cargo? Why doesn't cargo stored in a trash ship get transferred to the item bay. This is a very annoying "feature". Why don't you learn to manage your belongings before you just throw them away and stop blaming CCP for your ineptitude? A rookie ship is worth 0 ISK. It can, and often is trashed after arrival at destination. Which was in this case the pickup of another vessel. However, a momentary lapse in concentration meant that the fittings I was transporting for the new-to-be fitted ship were also trashed along with it. I am not blaming CCP for my own error. I'm blaming CCP for CCP's error. which was to quote the estimate price of the vessel to be trashed as 0 ISK. When that price should have included the cargo it was carrying. I confirmed my intention to trash the ship. I didn't state that I wanted to trash the cargo it was carrying. Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood. I think you just weren't clear in your op so people is giving you a hard time. tldr: op wants tooltip to show price of ship including the items in the cargo hold No, I was perfectly clear on what he wanted. I just don't ******* care. OP literally went somewhere, bought fittings for a ship, flew back, and trashed the ship he flew to buy the fittings before removing them from the cargo hold. The ship he literally used as the shopping cart. That's just carelessness and I honestly have no interest in protecting people from their own stupidity.
My edit from above especially applies to you:
It's so cliche to find so many hate-posters that try to argue with something so fundamentally obvious. Why is it there is always a brigade of people that come careening into a thread to defend every obvious flaw/insufficiency? That observation isn't just for this game, it's pretty much every game with online forums. No person can make a valid criticism without a bunch of people acting like their lifestyle is being insulted, and having to go on the offense against the person making the critique. That's just sad.
With all the numerous sanity checks the interface automatically offers, the original poster is perfectly reasonable to point out the interface inconsistency. For some reason you are PERSONALLY offended by his post, and you attack him as "stupid" and "careless". Wow. Get a life. |
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Marcus Binchiette
Pyrotech Creations
8
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:50:45 -
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Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.
You do remember what game this is, right? No one gives two flea infested rat sphincters about your "mood", princess. Take an aspirin and get over it.
Your under the mistaken impression that I was saying that for my own benefit... I was actually saying it for yours.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10944
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:55:23 -
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Gheeeed wrote:Why is it there is always a brigade of people that come careening into a thread to defend every obvious flaw/insufficiency? Because every game needs to have "flaws" to make things "interesting."
And when I say "flaw" I mean "the game doesn't always tell you exactly what you need to know, want to know, do things for you, or protect you from yourself."
If it wasn't for this particular little quirk of the game, the OP would not have come to the forums and whined about it. And I would not be as amused as I am now.
How did you Veterans start?
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
19255
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:58:16 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.
You do remember what game this is, right? No one gives two flea infested rat sphincters about your "mood", princess. Take an aspirin and get over it. Your under the mistaken impression that I was saying that for my own benefit... I was actually saying it for yours. Oh god please throw down over a forum post please, it's been a while since someone talked themselves into trouble here.
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Gheeeed
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:58:28 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Gheeeed wrote:Why is it there is always a brigade of people that come careening into a thread to defend every obvious flaw/insufficiency? Because every game needs to have "flaws" to make things "interesting." And when I say "flaw" I mean "the game doesn't always tell you exactly what you need to know, want to know, do things for you, or protect you from yourself." If it wasn't for this particular little quirk of the game, the OP would not have come to the forums and whined about it. And I would not be as amused as I am now.
"If it wasn't for this particular little quirk of the game, the OP would not have come to the forums and whined about it. And I would not be as amused as I am now." - The game wasn't designed to cater to your fetish for forum schadenfreude. Get over yourself, and get a life. You, a player of this game, should approve of basic interface improvements, and definitely should not be attacking others for wanting them. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
19255
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Posted - 2016.11.25 21:59:15 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Gheeeed wrote:Why is it there is always a brigade of people that come careening into a thread to defend every obvious flaw/insufficiency? Because every game needs to have "flaws" to make things "interesting." And when I say "flaw" I mean "the game doesn't always tell you exactly what you need to know, want to know, do things for you, or protect you from yourself." If it wasn't for this particular little quirk of the game, the OP would not have come to the forums and whined about it. And I would not be as amused as I am now. Yeah, this is why the jump and bridge buttons are right on top of one another
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Marcus Binchiette
Pyrotech Creations
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Posted - 2016.11.25 22:00:40 -
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Gheeeed wrote:Why is it there is always a brigade of people that come careening into a thread to defend every obvious flaw/insufficiency?
No. It's because this game attracts arseholes who take pleasure in the misfortunes of others - and this game seems to cultivate those traits. Like any ********, these one flock to any such manifestation of misfortune, wherever it may be found. Like flies on a dung heap.
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Gheeeed
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.11.25 22:03:09 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:Gheeeed wrote:Why is it there is always a brigade of people that come careening into a thread to defend every obvious flaw/insufficiency? No. It's because this game attracts arseholes who take pleasure in the misfortunes of others - and this game seems to cultivate those traits. Like any ********, these one flock to any such manifestation of misfortune, wherever it may be found. Like flies on a dung heap.
I'm sure that's part of it. My guess is that the primary reason is that these people spend so much time in the game, and value it so highly, that any criticism (valid or not) is construed as a personal attack on their lifestyle. I can't think of any other reasonable explanation as to why they react so aggressively. It's literally just a video game. Strange. |

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors Escalating Entropy
10947
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Posted - 2016.11.25 22:05:56 -
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Gheeeed wrote:The game wasn't designed to cater to your fetish for forum schadenfreude. True enough. But you can't say it doesn't make things "interesting." 
Gheeeed wrote:You, a player of this game, should approve of basic interface improvements, Nah. Some of the best fights, situations, and general WTF moments I have been in are a direct result of UI "issues."
Hell... some of the biggest fights in the game have been the result of someone literally clicking the wrong button.
Making things "idiot proof" would result in boredom.
How did you Veterans start?
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Gheeeed
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.11.25 22:10:43 -
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ShahFluffers wrote:Gheeeed wrote:The game wasn't designed to cater to your fetish for forum schadenfreude. True enough. But you can't say it doesn't make things "interesting."  Gheeeed wrote:You, a player of this game, should approve of basic interface improvements, Nah. Some of the best fights, situations, and general WTF moments I have been in are a direct result of UI "issues." Hell... some of the biggest fights in the game have been the result of someone literally clicking the wrong button. Making things "idiot proof" would result in boredom.
I think situations that develop from skill, logistics, and communications are more interesting and valuable than situations that develop from buggy/flawed user interfaces....if you disagree, well, at least you have a unique reason to promote bad design. |

Elenahina
Agony Unleashed Agony Empire
1447
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Posted - 2016.11.25 22:15:05 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:Elenahina wrote:Marcus Binchiette wrote:
Also, if you don't have anything nice to say. Please don't reply at all. I'm not in the mood.
You do remember what game this is, right? No one gives two flea infested rat sphincters about your "mood", princess. Take an aspirin and get over it. Your under the mistaken impression that I was saying that for my own benefit... I was actually saying it for yours.
I fail to see how it's for my benefit. I'm not the one whinging on about how I threw away my groceries because I forgot to take them out of the sack I brought them home in before I threw it away. I mean how desperately did you need to get rid of that rookie ship that you had to trash it without getting your packages out of the boot?
Eve is like an addiction; you can't quit it until it quits you.
Also, iderno
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