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Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
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Posted - 2016.11.27 23:17:00 -
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I'm posting this as a service. For those who know me, I'm sure some could vouch for my understanding of maneuver mechanics.
I have trained a lot of good PVP'ers over the years and I believe everything starts with an understanding of how your maneuvering affects damage taken and dealt. These strategies of maneuver dictate builds, fleet doctrines, etc.. and everything else.
For those who don't know me, please read a tutorial I wrote a few years ago: tutorial. This is just the basics.
I will be in Umokka teaching any who choose to come. I plan for this to be my permanent place in the game. I enjoy teaching and hope to make Umokka a place for casual cheap PVP.
The rules are as follows: 1) I will not teach you anything until I see one of the following: A) a lossmail (1 week old or newer) of you in a T1 frigate in Umokka. B) a killmail (1 week old or newer) of you killing something in a T1 frigate in Umokka. C) you actively looking for a fight in a T1 frigate. 2) read the tutorial before asking questions. It is long and I don't want to re-cover it for every student.
I always start students in T1 frigates because they are cheap and they are amongst the most technical ships to fly. The wide range of speeds and orbital ranges that are relevant in these ships inflate the value of maneuver for those who fly them.
Against skilled opponents, you sometimes must change strategies multiple times in a fight... which is unusual in the larger ships.
I don't care if you are at war, 3 days old, or older than me. I will fight you, spectate your fights, and work with you as long as you come to fight and are reasonably cool.
I don't want you in my corp and I don't want to be in your corp. I just want to hang out, teach, and engage in casual PVP.
For those who want to participate, you know where to find me.
This project has 2 locations: Chat: Numbnuts Pub Physical: Umokka x- Moon 4 - Caldari Navy Station "on the undock". |

Benson en Efnyssen
Tzimisce's Doctrine
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Posted - 2016.11.28 00:42:53 -
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I welcome the idea but I am somewhat sceptical. Last time I saw a service like advertised here the tutor had so other specific requirements, such as wearing Speedos while on Skype and drinking a cocktail called a "Cosbypolitan"?
Last time I tried one these PVP lesson services I blanked out and woke up wearing lipstick next to an Alsatian, minus said Speedos. Will you be offering a similar service? |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3272
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Posted - 2016.11.28 00:45:34 -
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I fully endorse this Product and/or Service
Furthermore I see it as an extnesion of the no NewBro left behind initiative founded by Veers which sparked a real drive in the community to include NewBros in all Neweden has to offer to save them from the drone of missions and mining. Without Products and/or Services such as this New Eden would be a dull place indeed
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3273
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Posted - 2016.11.28 00:46:20 -
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Benson en Efnyssen wrote:I welcome the idea but I am somewhat sceptical. Last time I saw a service like advertised here the tutor had so other specific requirements, such as wearing Speedos while on Skype and drinking a cocktail called a "Cosbypolitan"?
Last time I tried one these PVP lesson services I blanked out and woke up wearing lipstick next to an Alsatian, minus said Speedos. Will you be offering a similar service? You have to pay for that kind of service in my experience
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Benson en Efnyssen
Tzimisce's Doctrine
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Posted - 2016.11.28 00:48:00 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Benson en Efnyssen wrote:I welcome the idea but I am somewhat sceptical. Last time I saw a service like advertised here the tutor had so other specific requirements, such as wearing Speedos while on Skype and drinking a cocktail called a "Cosbypolitan"?
Last time I tried one these PVP lesson services I blanked out and woke up wearing lipstick next to an Alsatian, minus said Speedos. Will you be offering a similar service? You have to pay for that kind of service in my experience
Paid for in dignity and shame.
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Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
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Posted - 2016.11.28 00:55:02 -
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Benson en Efnyssen wrote:I welcome the idea but I am somewhat sceptical. Last time I saw a service like advertised here the tutor had so other specific requirements, such as wearing Speedos while on Skype and drinking a cocktail called a "Cosbypolitan"?
Last time I tried one these PVP lesson services I blanked out and woke up wearing lipstick next to an Alsatian, minus said Speedos. Will you be offering a similar service?
While I'm open in payment in exactly these manners, I actually do enjoy teaching and will be working with anyone who shows a willingness to fight... with or without fighting me and without payment.
I have been baiting and teaching in local lately and having quite a bit of fun doing so. I figured if I could get more people to come down and participate, maybe I could relive the chaos of the glory days.
I think it's too damn hard for players to learn to fight now that fleet stuff is the only easy fights to get. Those who participate will see the value and maybe enjoy some casual cheap pvp along the way.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2690
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Posted - 2016.11.28 12:54:58 -
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I fully support this service. We need more real fighters teaching the stuff you don't find on wikis, FAQs, etc.
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Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
4326
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Posted - 2016.11.28 13:31:21 -
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Vouch.
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Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
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Posted - 2016.11.29 02:32:27 -
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Today's thought: If you are using a MWD with short range guns, a scram, or a web... you better be prepared for your opponent's scram to turn off your MWD... and then for your opponent to have full maneuver freedom.
See, a MWD turns off when someone hits you with a scrambler... leaving you at mosey-speed.
If you can't think of an occasion when you want your opponent to have full authority of engagement range, you probably ought not combine a MWD with any plan that requires getting closer to a target than 15k. (There are some scenarios where this makes sense, but make sure you have thought it through). |

Natural CloneKiller
The Phoenix Rising Vendetta Mercenary Group
266
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Posted - 2016.11.29 11:33:38 -
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I would contact p45. They require this service. |
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2694
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Posted - 2016.11.29 11:42:11 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:Today's thought: If you are using a MWD with short range guns, a scram, or a web... you better be prepared for your opponent's scram to turn off your MWD... and then for your opponent to have full maneuver freedom.
See, a MWD turns off when someone hits you with a scrambler... leaving you at mosey-speed.
If you can't think of an occasion when you want your opponent to have full authority of engagement range, you probably ought not combine a MWD with any plan that requires getting closer to a target than 15k. (There are some scenarios where this makes sense, but make sure you have thought it through). +1 This is the eternal* conundrum of short range guns: you need to close range quickly, but you also need to maintain relative mobility once you get there even if your MED gets shut off.
When packing short range guns, dual web or dual prop is your friend. I never really got good at flying blaster boats until I learned this. (Of course, when Tiericide came along and gave the Thorax a fourth midslot, that certainly helped too....)
*Well, it's not eternal strictly speaking. Scrams didn't always used to shut down MWDs. But you get the idea.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
2362
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Posted - 2016.11.29 12:59:08 -
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Vouch for Mo. He's good people and good at Eve. You can't beat quality free instruction.
GL Mo - get the fire back! |

Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
1022
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Posted - 2016.11.29 13:42:53 -
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Today's thought of the day:
If you are having trouble tracking an opponent with your guns, you have several options of maneuver:
1) If your ship is stopped, that's the worst case scenario. I can't think of a scenario where you get a tactical advantage from stopping. If you need to be stationary even when not fighting, jettison something and orbit the can. That will at least keep alpha-shooters from insta popping you. I wouldn't think of this as a tactic, but I still see it from time to time.
2) Orbiting your opponent (The only method that's commonly used in the game) - If you are orbiting your opponent and you cannot hit him effectively with your guns, you can orbit farther away to try to reduce his angular speed, but probably orbiting is not your best option.
I think most people always "orbit" when they fight. Second most common tactic is stopping, sadly.
Here are two better options. If you haven't tried these, get a cruiser with short range guns and get a friend in an Afterburner frigate to orbit it. If stopped, you won't be able to track it at all, at an orbit, you should be able to track it some. Then try these:
3) Approaching or "keep at range" will reduce angular speed to an orbiting opponent helping you to do more damage. If you're having trouble getting your dps on a target, this is the less effective of these two methods of increasing it. If your opponent is trying to get away, this is your best option. 4) The most effective way to increase damage on an orbiting target that you can't seem to track is just to fly in a straight line (double click in space). Even if you couldn't hit a target at all while it was orbiting, you can often obtain decent DPS just by flying in a straight line because their orbits bottom-out behind you and then they fly straight up your tail.
Of course, you still have to manage range when you do these. Your best damage range with guns is to be right at "optimal."
(This and other maneuver tricks are the reason I tell people that an AB is both the best tank and damage mod in the game).
(I have been flying a Punisher lately and the lazors track so badly, this is a required skillset. I don't think I could kill anything if I was trying to orbit my opponents) |

Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
1022
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Posted - 2016.11.29 14:34:56 -
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Serendipity, Leto, Noragen, and Bronson - Thanks for the vouches. If I say anything stupid, please correct it.
Clonekiller - Everyone is welcome. I have yet to see a mercenary group where everyone understands maneuver mechanics and I've participated in many respected merc groups over the years. I bet you have a few members who could benefit as well. I suspect you may even know some of my old students.
Noragen - Yes, this is very much like "No Newbro Left Behind". Veers would be proud. I need to petition to get permanent access to the rookie chat so I can reach more newbros. Nothing retains newbros like newbro pirates ganking innocent newbros.
It's like a newbro retention storm.
I actually had an incident a few years ago where I trained a newbro who had like 2 million SP but could fly a frigate pretty well. After an hour or two of instruction I left for the weekend.
When I got back, I found he had murdered a substantial fraction of Caldari Space. I'm going to say 30+ kills, but I can't recall exactly (this isn't hub humping, he was flipping and getting fights, may have been a war dec or two open). I remember being shocked.
Newbro pirates are the best pirates. |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2696
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Posted - 2016.11.29 15:13:54 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:Serendipity, Leto, Noragen, and Bronson - Thanks for the vouches. If I say anything stupid, please correct it. Of course. I'll try not to add my 0.02 ISK too often. This is your thread after all. 
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3283
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Posted - 2016.11.29 20:20:36 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:Serendipity, Leto, Noragen, and Bronson - Thanks for the vouches. If I say anything stupid, please correct it.
Clonekiller - Everyone is welcome. I have yet to see a mercenary group where everyone understands maneuver mechanics and I've participated in many respected merc groups over the years. I bet you have a few members who could benefit as well. I suspect you may even know some of my old students.
Noragen - Yes, this is very much like "No Newbro Left Behind". Veers would be proud. I need to petition to get permanent access to the rookie chat so I can reach more newbros. Nothing retains newbros like newbro pirates ganking innocent newbros.
It's like a newbro retention storm.
I actually had an incident a few years ago where I trained a newbro who had like 2 million SP but could fly a frigate pretty well. After an hour or two of instruction I left for the weekend.
When I got back, I found he had murdered a substantial fraction of Caldari Space. I'm going to say 30+ kills, but I can't recall exactly (this isn't hub humping, he was flipping and getting fights, may have been a war dec or two open). I remember being shocked.
Newbro pirates are the best pirates. Um... I can perhaps arrange something in regards to rookie chat. Mail me if that was serious cause there are certain guidelines to that
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Jimmy Savile II
University of Caille Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2016.11.29 21:37:05 -
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You look like a pedophile. And you sound grumpy as hell. Would not waste my precious time with you. Newbros would quit the game if they decide to play your sexual twisted mind games. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3287
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Posted - 2016.11.29 22:30:51 -
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Jimmy Savile II wrote:You look like a pedophile. And you sound grumpy as hell. Anybody else feel like the kettle just called the pot black?
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27096
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Posted - 2016.11.29 22:45:12 -
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Jimmy Savile II wrote:You look like a pedophile. And you sound grumpy as hell. Would not waste my precious time with you. Newbros would quit the game if they decide to play your sexual twisted mind games. Too old?
BTW I wouldn't expect to keep the name long, but given that you chose it you're almost certainly a troll.
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Moon Moon Burdy
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
223
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Posted - 2016.11.29 23:18:15 -
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Jimmy Savile II wrote:You look like a pedophile. And you sound grumpy as hell. Would not waste my precious time with you. Newbros would quit the game if they decide to play your sexual twisted mind games.
Come on now. This is a righteous thread full of goodstuff. The door's thataway, Nitshe. Get out.
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Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
1028
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Posted - 2016.11.30 16:41:07 -
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Thought of the day:
Tank selection- buffer or repair (active or passive)
The decision to be a buffer tank or repair tank is a simple decision of how long it will last in the situation you will put it in.
If you are trying to tank a Raven with T2 modules, for instance, you can either have 100k EHP with very little repair (buffer fit) or 30k EHP with 1000 hp/s repair (repair fit).
If you are taking low damage (less than 1000 dps), the repair tank lasts forever and the buffer tank lasts ~100 seconds or more. Therefore, the rep tank is better.
If you are taking high damage (2000 dps), the rep tank lasts 30 seconds and the buffer tank lasts 50 seconds. The case prefers the buffer tank.
If you are taking 10k dps, the rep tank lasts 3 seconds, the buffer tank lasts 10. (Fleet scenario). Buffer tanks are typically strongly preferred in fits that will take fleet damage.
As a generalization, rep tanks are best in scenarios where you can control inbound damage. This includes kite fits, pve, 1v1 fits sometimes, etc... Selecting this type of tank requires strong consideration of how you will pilot the craft to avoid high dps. Typically, this build for pvp requires high speeds and ranges to survive, as close range against a brawler opponent will rarely go well.
Buffer tanks are better for station games, fleets, and large scale activity where you are likely to encounter large quantities of DPS. They also require very little thought and cap management, which makes them easier to fly when you are new to pvp and your fingers get shaky.
Additional notes: I consider auxiliary boosters to be buffer components because they can't sustain rep. Think of them as a finite (but nice) addition to your EHP. They are useful, and good components, but they are effectively buffer components.
Shield vs armor: Shield components increase sig radius. This is bad when you are fighting larger ships and is something you need to think about when flying something with a huge sig radius. However, they don't affect your speed and can be preferable in speed builds (which don't require as many mid slot components to control range.
I prefer shield for kites and it is relevant in mid-range builds.
Armor components decrease speed. This is bad when you are relying on speed to keep you alive. Brawlers usually expect to be heavily webbed and scrammed, so the speed drawback isn't as much of a concern. Also, brawlers typically need web, scram, AB, and as many additional mid slot components as possible. Armor mods allow for that because they fit low slots.
I prefer armor for close range brawlers and it is still very relevant in mid range builds. |

Leto Thule
Everywhere and Terrible
4328
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Posted - 2016.12.01 05:12:28 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:Serendipity, Leto, Noragen, and Bronson - Thanks for the vouches. If I say anything stupid, please correct it.
Pfft. I have been out of practice so long I may take the damn class myself.
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Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
1032
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Posted - 2016.12.01 14:35:55 -
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Thought of the day: The selection of guns vs missiles is an important decision when flying a speed build (interceptors, nano boats, etc..),
When making this decision, I would consider the following strengths of guns and missiles.
Missiles: Long range missiles give you the ability to shoot far and project your damage reasonably well... but not against targets that are moving fast (due to the speed damage reduction of (explosion velocity)/(target velocity)).
If something tries to catch you at 2400m/s.... missiles will not be effective at projecting damage on that target because the speed factor damage reduction will be huge. If you don't believe me, try it with a friend. This makes it hard for high speed missile boats to defend themselves against high speed gun boats. A very important realization if you want to fly a crow or nano-drake.
However, if you are relying on staying 15k away from your target to keep you alive, the effectiveness of missiles at long range make it easier to maneuver safely during an engagement. That long range is great for harassing heavy fleets that cannot catch you.
These ships are also a LOT of fun to fly.
Guns Guns are MUCH more defensible at high speed because chasing you implies flying straight up your tail with no angular velocity (perfect gun tracking scenario). Whatever damage you have will be nearly perfectly applied on any fast ship you're 1) Chasing 2) Running from
I spent a lot of time in the nano-cane a few years ago. The beauty of the nano-cane was that nothing that could easily catch it could take more than a few shots from the autocannons... it was too much DPS for anything small to take. Now, it couldn't hold ground against a well tanked cruiser, but you could fly around a fleet and pop all the tackles with relative safety.
As per my previous discussion, I don't typically recommend short range guns with MWD, so you're not going to see a lot of short range speed builds from me.
I am a big fan of tracking enhanced autocannons (can get good range and tracking out of that) for this type of build, but range is critical because you need to be able to operate efficiently outside 15k and inside 24k.
Summary At high speed, missile boats struggle to defend themselves against things that go similar speed. Gun boats don't have that problem, but lack the luxurious engagement profile of long range missiles.
Combined Effort
Some of the best fighting I ever did was when I combined a high-speed gun boat with a friend who was flying a high-speed missile boat. By keeping them close together, you can hold the field against a larger force and the missile boat can shoot from long range harassing a fleet. The gun boat can clean up any little tackles that try to chase you down.
Concerning the speed team like this, it's a lot of fun but just keep them close together. The missile boat is extremely vulnerable to fast tackles and the gun boat can't really harass a fleet effectively. Used together, it's a good mix.
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Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
2373
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Posted - 2016.12.01 15:03:55 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Mobadder Thworst wrote:Serendipity, Leto, Noragen, and Bronson - Thanks for the vouches. If I say anything stupid, please correct it.
Pfft. I have been out of practice so long I may take the damn class myself.
He said T1 frigs in HS. If I catch you there in one of the 3 thanatos carriers you owe me..... it will be dealt with. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3311
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Posted - 2016.12.01 20:15:18 -
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Serendipity Lost wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Mobadder Thworst wrote:Serendipity, Leto, Noragen, and Bronson - Thanks for the vouches. If I say anything stupid, please correct it.
Pfft. I have been out of practice so long I may take the damn class myself. He said T1 frigs in HS. If I catch you there in one of the 3 thanatos carriers you owe me..... it will be dealt with. Or with a tranny. That too will be dealt with 
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2704
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Posted - 2016.12.01 21:48:37 -
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Oh look, someone going fast and straight to kill traversal.
Comically.
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Mortlake
Devils Rejects 666
2602
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Posted - 2016.12.01 22:45:49 -
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DON'T FUCK1NG TURN
I was told to remove my signature, so I have.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2706
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Posted - 2016.12.01 22:48:12 -
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OR YOU'LL SLINGSHOT YOURSELF OUT OF THE ******* SOLAR SYSTEM
These videos are hysterical....
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Mike Adoulin
Adolescent Radioactive Pirate Hamsters
1939
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Posted - 2016.12.01 23:58:16 -
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I endorse this product and service. Mo is the legit dude, you'll learn a lot.
Everything in EVE is a trap.
And if it isn't, it's your job to make it a trap...:)
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Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
1042
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Posted - 2016.12.02 14:23:10 -
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Thought of the day; Neutralizers are good equipment that just aren't as relevant as they used to be. I used to consider neutralizers to be a replacement for DPS in many scenarios because you could turn off so much of your opponent's tank that 2-3 appropriately sized neutralizers could speed up kills... Even if you gave up DPS to make them fit.
With the damage control becoming a passive mod, you are really only in a position to turn off active tank mods, so the reduction in expected EHP when you cap out an enemy is not nearly as much and tiers ice ensured there aren't as many ships that can hold 2 or 3 neural without a major damage reduction.
If you are using multiple neutralizers, start them at intervals so they hit about even distance apart. Ex: 3 large neutralizers with a cycle time of 24 seconds would need to be turned on 8 seconds apart so they take cap every 8 seconds. This makes the cap a LOT harder to manage.
I now think of the neut as a maneuver control mod (mostly to allow mid-range ships). I'm not willing to give up as much DPS to get neutralizers now that they don't have as much capacity to speed up kills.
They are still very effective when employed against close range brawlers to give you back maneuver capacity to kill the brawler from range. It takes a good tank to play this way, but you can let a brawler beat on you while you cap him out.. Then pull back out of his effective range and finish the job.
Brawlers need a web, scram, and AB most of the time. the ones with a 4th mid slot may have a cap booster, but mostly I find those on active tanks. If your whole strategy relies on capping your enemy out, it is a good idea to know how many mid slots your opponent has.
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Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
1047
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Posted - 2016.12.03 23:05:42 -
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Thought of the day: ECM drones require understanding. In my opinion, they are a hail-Mary at best.
You calculate the chance of successfully jamming a target by dividing the drones jam strength by the ships sensor strength.
Small ECM drones have a jam strength of 1 against every race. If you were trying to jam a frigate with a sensor strength of 10, you would have a 10% chance of success. (Jam strength (1)/sensor strength(10))= 10% or .1
Now, that means the chance of failure is 90%, or .9.
To figure out the chance of multiple drones together, you have to multiply the chances of failure together. Ex: 5 drones with a 90% chance of failure would have a (.9*.9*.9*.9*.9= .59) 59% chance of failure.
That means your 5 drones give you a 41% chance of successfully jamming a t1 frigate (assuming there is a t1 frigate with a jam strength that low, my punisher is 12.6 signal strength) in a given jam cycle.
These can make sense in some circumstances, but even with 5 of them your chances of actually jamming a ship on the first cycle are really bad. Larger ships have larger sensor strengths.
They can make sense as a hail-Mary if something catches your kite-boat, but I don't recommend betting on them as part of your strategy.
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Angar Ituin
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.12.04 09:38:09 -
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ill be flying by somewhen soon :D. Looking forward to learn some PVP.
Thanks for the service and delivering such a great value to the community. |

Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
1047
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Posted - 2016.12.04 15:16:14 -
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Angar Ituin wrote:ill be flying by somewhen soon :D. Looking forward to learn some PVP.
Thanks for the service and delivering such a great value to the community.
Great! Can't wait to see you. Be sure and join "numbnuts pub" in the meantime!
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Mobadder Thworst
The Eviction Mandate Eviction Imminent
1048
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Posted - 2016.12.04 23:33:07 -
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Thought of the day: Alpha shooter is the term we use for ships that do a LOT of damage in a single shot.
We all know there are people trying to use these in ganks and other activities, but I want to discuss their relevance.
I'm no fleet expert, but there is a great argument for using alpha strikes in fleet activities, because they can appear to have much higher DPS than they really do specifically in short fights.
Suppose you had two ships, one that did 1000 dps and fired each second (blaster boat) and another that does 900 dps and fires once every 10 seconds (artillery boat).
In the first second, the alpha shooter will do 9000 damage. After that, the other ship will fire 9 more times bringing both ships nearly equal at (alpha shooter did 9000 damage, blasted boat did 10.000 damage) 10 seconds until the alpha shooter fires again.
As of the second shot, the alpha shooter has discharged 18,000 damage in 11 seconds. The blaster boat has discharged 11,000
In this case, if the fight only lasts 11 seconds, the alpha shooter will have averaged 1600 dps because it did 20 seconds worth of damage in 11 seconds.
The high cycle time of the artillery allows it to have a higher damage output than its DPS calculation would make you think it has on fights that only last 2 or 3 shots (in fact, if the fight only lasts two shots the damage is twice what the DPS calculation says, if the fight lasts 3 shots it is 50% higher than the DPS calculation says) I would think this would be popular in large fleet activities, but I can't speak to it.
It has a place in the mind of any pvp player though.
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Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.05 14:35:42 -
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Thought of the day: Ammo selection is simple in pvp. Choose the ammo you are most likely to have success with.
Shields naturally have 0 resist to EM damage. Armor naturally has 0 resist to explosive damage.
Most people use a single module to balance that lowest resist, and then use modules that affect all resists after that. Typically, that doesn't quite balance the lowest resist. As such, I recommend using ammo that does EM damage on shield tanks (Caldari and Minmatar) and explosive damage on armor tanks (Amarr and Galente).
Ammo like antimatter that do the two middle resists are well balanced against all opponents, but don't have the opportunity to exploit the natural weakness of the tank types when someone doesn't balance his resistances.
T2 and Faction Ammo:
Faction ammo performs like t1 ammo, but better. It is the same thing, just with more DPS. I always recommend.
T2 ammo (like modules) always has a drawback. There is always an attractive performance characteristic, but there is always an underperforming characteristic as well. As such, be careful. It can, and frequently does, result in a decrease of DPS for many users.
Example: T2 rage torps do fantastic damage. However the explosion radius is 650, which is HUGE. Only a shield tanked battleship with bad drawbacks would have any chance of filling that out. Against most targets, regular T1 torpedos will do substantially more damage.
The T2 equivalent of antimatter has a tracking drawback that will affect your DPS badly if you don't make up for it with maneuver.
T2 ammo is valuable and important, but be sure to take the time and read how it affects performance because some of them are downright hard to use well
Multiple ranges: I think it is a good idea to try to think through possible engagement types your ship could experience and pick contingency ammos. That is to say, your brawler may be designed to shoot republic fleet Fusion(explosive for armor)/EMP (EM for shields)for close range DPS, but it can still be worth throwing a couple thousands rounds of barrage in the hull.. just in case.
You never know when you will lose control of maneuver and that little extra DPS at range can push someone off who would otherwise have killed you.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2715
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Posted - 2016.12.05 15:13:24 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:Most people use a single module to balance that lowest resist, and then use modules that affect all resists after that. Typically, that doesn't quite balance the lowest resist. As such, I recommend using ammo that does EM damage on shield tanks (Caldari and Minmatar) and explosive damage on armor tanks (Amarr and Galente). Two minor additions to a great post:
First, don't underestimate thermal damage for shield tanks or kinetic for armor tanks. If your target is using an actual resist mod instead of a resist rig to fill their primary hole (EM/Explosive), then their secondary hole (Thermal/Kinetic) may be bigger.
Second, T2 resists on your target can throw all of this straight to hell. Using explosive damage against Sacrilege or EM damage against a Broadsword will not go over too well.
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Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.05 16:36:13 -
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Bronson Hughes wrote:Mobadder Thworst wrote:Most people use a single module to balance that lowest resist, and then use modules that affect all resists after that. Typically, that doesn't quite balance the lowest resist. As such, I recommend using ammo that does EM damage on shield tanks (Caldari and Minmatar) and explosive damage on armor tanks (Amarr and Galente). Two minor additions to a great post: First, don't underestimate thermal damage for shield tanks or kinetic for armor tanks. If your target is using an actual resist mod instead of a resist rig to fill their primary hole (EM/Explosive), then their secondary hole (Thermal/Kinetic) may be bigger. Second, T2 resists on your target can throw all of this straight to hell. Using explosive damage against Sacrilege or EM damage against a Broadsword will not go over too well.
+1 - excellent addition. |

Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.06 14:33:43 -
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Thought of the Day-
Picking Fights
I'm asking that people come to Umokka and pick fights. Here are just a few suggestions that either work or should still work.
1) Spam duel offers - This is a generally unsuccessful way to get fights, but it's safer than some of the other techniques. Fly something either small (so people think they can beat it) or blingy (so they really want to beat it). It's hard to get interest this way.
2) Going Suspect - This used to be great when it was localized against just the corp you stole from. However, in the current state of Eve risk aversion, this is a viable way to get fights. Sadly, even good technique won't save you when the entire undock of a station decides to light you up. To do this, just go to the belts and steal from a wreck.
3) Mission Bombing - Use probes on-grid at a station to get the scan-tags of your targets. Then when they hop into a mission, you can scan them out rapidly by just scanning that tag (abc-123). Then, you can go into their mission and 1) steal stuff 2) shoot MTUs 3) bump them 4) ask them for payment for services rendered.
4) Local Theatre - Get a buddy and pick a fight with you in local chat. If one of you is playing a "bad guy" and the other plays the "good guy", people will often try to get involved to participate in the drama (save the little guy, tell-off the bad guy, etc...) This method can be a lot of fun.
5) Percieved slights - Talk in local and wait for someone to say something snide. Have an 1800's style meltdown and demand a duel. Threaten to declare war if your target doesn't fight.
In all of this, keep in mind that your opponent doesn't always want to fight, but is an opportunist. Given a chance to fight and win, most players will take the bait.
It's a good idea to fly something non-threatening and act like a moron in local chat. Feel free to misidentify ships (I'm flying a merlin class cruiser), confuse war decs (If you declared war on them, act like you think they attacked you. Accuse them of piracy and tell them they should be banned from the game).
A little chaos goes a long way and, if done tastefully, can inspire other people watching to want to play as well. Fights are more meaningful when there is a reason. Keep in mind, though, that abusive smack talk is as likely to make someone quit as it is to get a fight.
Keep it fun and interesting and your targets will come back for fights time and time again.
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Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.08 13:29:54 -
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Thought of the day: T2 modules - I find a lot of young players don't understand T2 modules.
The performance of the primary characteristic of T2 modules typically reflect the performance of the best T1 module.
Example: T2 launchers typically shoot at the same rate as arbalest launchers. (They also allow T2 ammo...)
T2 components bring that performance at a much lower cost, but almost always have a "drawback".
The drawback is usually that they are more expensive to fit (more power grid or CPU).
In summary- T2 modules are better because they are cheaper and reflect a high average performance. |

David Xen MacElroy
Diamond Dogz. Primary.
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Posted - 2016.12.09 02:50:08 -
[40] - Quote
we need more people like you dude!
would love to duel you if im in the area
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Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.09 06:31:53 -
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Thought of the day: Timers are an important thing to understand. This used to be a fantastically complex topic. Now it is pretty simple, but still relevant.
Duel timers and log off timers are pretty self explanatory.
However, the piece you need to know is about the 1 minute timer that prevents you from redockng in a station or jumping through a gate after the use of any aggressive module.
That 1 minute timer is very important. Here are a few scenarios to illustrate:
1) You are flying along in a badger and you land on a gate next to a proteus who is a war target. He starts to lock you. You know he can melt your badger in a matter of seconds. If you hop through the gate, he will hop with you and easily catch you on the other side. What do you do to survive?
Answer 1) you try to warp to a station and dock. Of you could just orbit the gate and let him decide what he wants to do (dangerous if he has buddies). If he shoots you, you just jump through the gate and the 1 minute timer will prevent him from following. If he doesn't, you can just dock up when you get to station.
He cannot kill you unless you let him.
2) You see a guy out front of station baiting for fights. You get a friend in a tanky bait ship to engage him. As soon as he shoots, he is locked outside for 1 minute. Once your buddy sees him red-box, undock your biggest baddest DPS platform and melt him down... because he can't dock.
3) You are maneuvering your small fleet against a small enemy fleet. You know they're coming for you, so you push one ship to their side of a gate before they get there, and have him orbit the gate at 500. The rest of your party stays on the other side of the gate.
When the enemy fleet lands next to your one forward ship, he keeps orbiting the gate until he has several red-boxed on himself. Then, he jumps through the gate. If the fleet is unwise, they will attempt to follow and allow themselves to get split in the face of your fleet (the ones who shot will be stuck on the other side of the gate, the ones who jump will get to face your fleet without backup)... which won't end well if you have it together.
4) You are traveling through lowsec and a small ship tries to engage you on a gate. You realize that the gate guns will immediately start lighting him up and that he cannot jump through the gate because of the 1 minute timer. You can just warp scramble him and try to maneuver to not take damage while the gate guns break him.
5) If it's a small gate camp that catches you, you can try to burn back to gate. If you make it, only the ones that didn't shoot can follow. Most gate camps don't have a lot of tackles. If the tackles can't follow, maybe the DPS boats can't catch you. If the DPS can't follow and the tackle can... it's probably small and you might be able to ball it (especially with gate gun help) and keep moving. Understanding how to use timers to split gangs is important.
Even if you just land on a camp, if can be valuable to wait until some part engages before you jump... at least you won't have to fight that one ship. |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3356
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Posted - 2016.12.09 06:43:00 -
[42] - Quote
Timers get extreamly complicated in highsec with Logi
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Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.09 13:15:09 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Timers get extreamly complicated in highsec with Logi
How so? It's just a suspect timer now as far as I can tell. Am I missing something?
It has been a long time since I used any. |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2750
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Posted - 2016.12.09 14:51:47 -
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Mobadder Thworst wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:Timers get extreamly complicated in highsec with Logi How so? It's just a suspect timer now as far as I can tell. Am I missing something? It has been a long time since I used any. If you offer any targeted remote assistance (remote reps, ReSeBo, etc.) to a ship with a Limited Engagement (LE), you will go suspect. Note that this only applies in Empire space as LEs don't exist in nullsec or wormholes.
However, there is a catch: if the LE starts mid-cycle, you don't go suspect unless you allow the modules to cycle again. If you set your safety to green, the safety system will prevent the modules from re-cycling and flagging you suspect. This is particularly useful for camps where you have a support ship ReSeBo-ing the crap out of tackle*: the tackle gets flagged (either suspect, criminal, or just an LE depending on the situation) but the support ship doesn't.
Things I haven't brushed up on since coming back:
If you remote assist someone involved in a war that you are not a part of, you go suspect regardless of LEs. (I'm 99% this is still true as it would have been a "big deal" to have changed it.)
Even if you and a friend both have an LE against the same player, you will go suspect if you remote assist your friend. (This is a really nuanced edge case and I haven't tested it ever, but it makes sense to work this way.)
*Or ships with massive alpha, because why tackle something that's dead, amirite?
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Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3366
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Posted - 2016.12.10 00:15:22 -
[45] - Quote
To go further you do not gain a Suspect time when providing remote assistance to somebody who has ALL the EXACT same LE's as you. The easiest way to do this is to actively agress the same targets with your remote assistance ship that the target of your assistance is also actively engaging/engaged by
Example Pilot A and B agresses Pilot C who is suspect baiting on the Rens undock Pilot C loses his suspect timer and decides to go balls deep and takes them 2v1 Pilot A and B engage Pilot C Pilot B begins to provide remote assistance to Pilot A and vice versa because they are RR domi's Nobody is suspect so long as this continues
Where this begins to get really tricky is wardecs I don't have the time or inclination to share how to abuse this mechanic for wardecs but lets just say its arguably the most complex mechanic I've encountered in eve although the above example gets quite difficult to pull off with multiple pilots on both sides and most people just go suspect because it's too hard to avoid
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Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.10 04:45:03 -
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Noragen Neirfallas wrote:To go further you do not gain a Suspect time when providing remote assistance to somebody who has ALL the EXACT same LE's as you. The easiest way to do this is to actively agress the same targets with your remote assistance ship that the target of your assistance is also actively engaging/engaged by
Example Pilot A and B agresses Pilot C who is suspect baiting on the Rens undock Pilot C loses his suspect timer and decides to go balls deep and takes them 2v1 Pilot A and B engage Pilot C Pilot B begins to provide remote assistance to Pilot A and vice versa because they are RR domi's Nobody is suspect so long as this continues
Where this begins to get really tricky is wardecs I don't have the time or inclination to share how to abuse this mechanic for wardecs but lets just say its arguably the most complex mechanic I've encountered in eve although the above example gets quite difficult to pull off with multiple pilots on both sides and most people just go suspect because it's too hard to avoid
I learned something. The mechanic seems pretty limited, but I wasn't aware you could do that.
Thanks Mo |

Noragen Neirfallas
Rabble Inc. Legio De Mortem
3370
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Posted - 2016.12.10 06:44:08 -
[47] - Quote
Mobadder Thworst wrote:Noragen Neirfallas wrote:To go further you do not gain a Suspect time when providing remote assistance to somebody who has ALL the EXACT same LE's as you. The easiest way to do this is to actively agress the same targets with your remote assistance ship that the target of your assistance is also actively engaging/engaged by
Example Pilot A and B agresses Pilot C who is suspect baiting on the Rens undock Pilot C loses his suspect timer and decides to go balls deep and takes them 2v1 Pilot A and B engage Pilot C Pilot B begins to provide remote assistance to Pilot A and vice versa because they are RR domi's Nobody is suspect so long as this continues
Where this begins to get really tricky is wardecs I don't have the time or inclination to share how to abuse this mechanic for wardecs but lets just say its arguably the most complex mechanic I've encountered in eve although the above example gets quite difficult to pull off with multiple pilots on both sides and most people just go suspect because it's too hard to avoid I learned something. The mechanic seems pretty limited, but I wasn't aware you could do that. Thanks Mo Subject to change without notice or patch notes as with all things involving wardec and suspect baiting :shakes fist at CCP:
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Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.10 18:01:59 -
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Though of the day: Tank, guns, neuts, prop mods, etc are the meat and potatoes of pvp. They are also power grid hogs.
If you are doing large fleet activities, you are probably not in a position to benefit from this, but in small scale fighting where a small advantage can be critical, power grid can be worth thinking about.
Power grid implants are a relatively cheap way to get a bigger tank. They are much cheaper than any of the named sets... and work with any ship you fly. If you are doing frigate pvp they deserve consideration.
Also, there are a few ships in the game where you can make a power grid tradeoff and get ahead. The vexor is one of those ships. Because so much of the vexor's DPS comes from drones, you can fit it with frigate guns and still get over 400dps (my standard for cruisers). After that, you have loads of tank for power grid... and can fit 2 1600mm plates if you have power grid implants with a balanced build. That much tank makes it a surprise on the battlefield.
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Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.11 16:29:48 -
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Thought of the day:
Ok, so this thread is working even if the volume of students isn't as great as I had hoped.
Yesterday, I nearly lost a Merlin (escaped in structure after slipping a scrambler) and today I fought a mid range punisher that was really quite well flown. Both pilots flew well enough to beat most of the opponents I've beaten and both were novices.
I was impressed.
Now, after learning how to maneuver and getting an understanding of what to do against a beatable opponent, chapter 2 is learning emergent pvp.
To learn this, make a bunch of ships of multiple tiers (frog to battleship) that each have a purpose (a scenario where they are effective). Then start picking fights, declaring war, and fighting in engagements where you don't know what the opponent will do.
For the corp wanting to conduct training, first teach maneuver. Then when you do duels, do them on station or on a gate and have no rules (make it ok to dock and swap ships). This is how real fights progress... this forces contenders to face when the can't close a kill, look too strong, or have another issue that prevents actually winning.
Once you know how how to win and you understand maneuver, then you have to learn the emergent side of the game. Go steal out of cans, duel spam, and war dec your way to glory. |

Mobadder Thworst
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Posted - 2016.12.13 02:33:19 -
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Thought of the day: The disadvantage of ECM is that it prevents you from getting kills.
Now, when I was a noob I thought it was surely wonderful. I still hear a lot more about it than it deserves, though I do always keep an ECM boat around. It is a good tool for dealing with logi and a few other scenarios. It can be a safe boat to fly against a limited number of aggressors.
The problem with ECM is that it forces deagression, and ends (or encourages the ending) of the 1 minute gate/station timer. If you don't have absolutely sick DPS, you need all the time you can get to close the kill. ECM , while powerful, typically causes enemies to deagress and stop re-upping that timer... thereby helping them to get away.
If you are going for kills on gates or stations, use sparingly. |
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2760
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Posted - 2016.12.13 13:26:09 -
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Random story: this weekend I was in a FW zone in a Crucifier (kitey MWD turret disruptor fit). I landed on a novice 'plex gate and D-Scan showed a Kestrel in the 'plex. I accidentally hit "activate gate" instead of "orbit" (I was waiting for reinforcements) and my immediate thought was "Well, I'm humped."
I land, the Kestrel is about 5k off of me, and I overheat my MWD and immediately burn away from him. My MWD is only active for a second before I get scrammed but it was enough. I manage to drift out of scram range for just a moment and immediately started spamming warp.
I got out with 3% structure and said a quick thank you prayer to RNGesus.
Moral of the story: Overheat! If that kestrel had overheated his scram, or if I hadn't overheated my MWD, I almost certainly wouldn't have gotten away.
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Mobadder Thworst
Perkone Caldari State
1107
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Posted - 2016.12.19 13:49:37 -
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Thought of the day: I could use some help on this one. Had intended to try this out, but too busy. It is a new idea I haven't tried.
Was trying to come up with an optimum engagement tactic for a missile boat against a gun boat.
I came up with the idea of jettisoning a can and orbiting it.
I haven't checked the angulars in this tactic, but the idea is that the gun boat would have trouble maneuvering to reduce angular and will have more restrictive range issues. If he tried to run away and draw out the angular, he would just run out of range.
Because the missile boat would be nearly stationary except with a tight orbit, I would think that would be about as slow as you could inspire your target to go.
I know orbit cans are a good way to prevent big guns from hitting you, but I hadn't really thought about it as a way to make a missile boat static but with damage reducing angular.
Can someone check the angulars and see if this is a viable tactic? Mo |

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2775
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Posted - 2016.12.19 14:02:24 -
[53] - Quote
I have used a similar tactic with sentry boats. Land, deploy sentries, and orbit one of them. It keeps me in roughly the same place and able to quickly scoop my drones, but it also keeps me moving so it's harder to apply damage to me.
I looked at the math behind this years ago but I can't be arsed to dig it up. Basically, it works, but I don't have qualitative figures to back me up, just experience.
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Mobadder Thworst
Chelyabinsk
1156
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Posted - 2016.12.29 14:05:29 -
[54] - Quote
Thought of the day: If you want fights, look weak. Don't bait with 10 corp mates on station in a vindicator. Nobody wants to fight that.
You have to excite that opportunist spirit in your target, and that may mean baiting in a hauler or t1 frigate.
By flying weak, you will sometimes come up against odds you can't beat, but your skill at maneuver will grow substantially if you have a good foundation (lessons discusssd here). When you re-enter a fleet with nice equipment, your knowledge and confidence will be excellent.
Getting used to compensating for your weaknesses in an engagement with maneuver is (in my opinion) fundamentally more powerful than covering for them with SP or faction components and fleet mates.
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
2787
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Posted - 2016.12.29 14:22:00 -
[55] - Quote
Can I add one of my own?
Never underestimate T1 EWar ships. Many of them have EWar bonuses (particularly, range bonuses) that their T2 counterparts lack.
Want to build the ultimate damp sniper? Stick with a Celestis.
Need an ECM platform with 100km of optimal? Hop in that Scorpion.
Dying to muck up someone's tracking at ranges that would make a Naga jealous? Better get a Cruicifier.
T1 EWar: Range Tank Edition.
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Mobadder Thworst
Chelyabinsk
1161
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Posted - 2016.12.30 15:46:07 -
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Low Sec Roams- I've never been a huge fan of low sec roams, but this is how many players experience PvP on first try, so it bears discussing.
In low sec, you have to understand that if you aggress a target who is not either a criminal or war target, you will become a criminal.
When you do that, you will lose sec status and, if you do it near a gate or station, the gate/station guns will attack you. Also, everyone else in low sec who is restricted by threat of gate/station guns can now shoot you freely.
If you go into lowsec and land on gate next to a frigate, that frigate won't shoot you or the gate guns will turn him into confetti.
It's like blood in the water of a shark tank when a ship starts flashing red or yellow.
Because new corps often try to do lowsec in small ships and without much information, they can very easily get themselves spanked by a single ship with tank if they aggress with a bunch of frigates on a gate and get themselves criminal flagged (gate gun smokes them while the single ship tried to catch all the killmails).
Gate/station guns will end a frigate very quickly
If you are doing this, it is important to control your engagements such that the other guy engages first on gate or station, that will keep the gate/station guns off you (unless you are big enough to tank it).
I've lived in lowsec before, but I don't play an alt and for me, getting that sec status hit for kills would have limited me from the markets...which were always too many hops away. Also, I felt like the engagement mechanics in low were messier than high or null, and difficult to get clean engagements in the ships I like to fly.
I am in the militia right now and blobs are tough to dodge, but the content is MUCH better than it used to be. It is still very difficult to control/plan engagements in the militia environment. |

Mobadder Thworst
Chelyabinsk
1162
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Posted - 2016.12.30 16:45:01 -
[57] - Quote
Bronson Hughes wrote:Can I add one of my own?
Never underestimate T1 EWar ships. Many of them have EWar bonuses (particularly, range bonuses) that their T2 counterparts lack.
Want to build the ultimate damp sniper? Stick with a Celestis.
Need an ECM platform with 100km of optimal? Hop in that Scorpion.
Dying to muck up someone's tracking at ranges that would make a Naga jealous? Better get a Cruicifier.
T1 EWar: Range Tank Edition.
This is a valid tactic. I used to fly a scorpion solo sometimes in wars when I didn't expect a full blob because I knew I could easily disengage just about anyone.
I eventually lost it in low to a large number of frigates (many of whom I managed to jam) in an ill conceived fight in low sec somewhere.
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Mobadder Thworst
Perkone Caldari State
1195
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Posted - 2017.01.20 14:47:28 -
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Thought of January - Highsec conflict is so dead that I can't even give away training. Even once someone is trained, there isn't much to do with it because fights are rare.
I'm saddened by this.
We need canflipping back. It was the basis of meaningful content in highsec.
Without conflict (and I don't mean blind wardecs against dozens of alliances), there is no space opera.
I need more space opera.
Mo |

Mobadder Thworst
Legion of the Wicked Way Home Defense Union
1207
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Posted - 2017.01.27 17:54:23 -
[59] - Quote
Service cancelled due to lack of interest. I will stop monitoring "numbnuts pub" next time I log in.
I'll be learning to pve in null if anyone needs me. I still have a clone in Umokka area, and am happy to work with anyone.
If you want to learn, email or chat me. |
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