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Mefju Andedare University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.30 18:41:31 - [1] - Quote Hi guys! I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. What is the most fun, and/or profitable career path for a solo player, and what would you advise me to take? Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... but if there is a career that ties in this two - that would be awesome.
2Sonas1Cup 157	Posted - 2016.11.30 18:43:56 - [2] - Quote MINING
Paranoid Loyd 9848	Posted - 2016.11.30 18:45:53 - [3] - Quote Taking from the ignorant and/or greedy. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!
Bjorn Tyrson EVE University Ivy League 23	Posted - 2016.11.30 18:50:35 - [4] - Quote A lot of that depends on what your definition of "fun" is. If your into pvp there can be a little money to be made in piracy and higj-sec ganking. Faction warfare is also an option. Mining is dull as staring at rocks (which is exactly what your doing) but the money is consistent and if you get into a null alliance can be pretty damn good. Industry can be another good money making venture, but you need to enjoy spreadsheets and optimization. So it isn't for everyone. Exploration is probably one of the best and most fun (in my opinion) ways for a new player to make some isk. Barrier to entry is fairly low. And if the loot fairy is kind you can make hundreds of mil in an hour. The list goes on and on. Just about everything in eve can make you money if you do it right. The real trick is finding what you personally enjoy doing. And figure out how you can do more of that.
Hrist Harkonnen Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3	Posted - 2016.11.30 18:53:34 - [5] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Hi guys! I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. What is the most fun, and/or profitable career path for a solo player, and what would you advise me to take? Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... but if there is a career that ties in this two - that would be awesome. Station Trading which is the most boring thing ever in a MMORPG. Try EVE Online for FREE with 250.000 extra skill points here!
Bobb Bobbington Bros Before Holes The Devils' Rejects 356	Posted - 2016.11.30 18:57:36 - [6] - Quote Hrist Harkonnen wrote: Mefju Andedare wrote: Hi guys! I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. What is the most fun, and/or profitable career path for a solo player, and what would you advise me to take? Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... but if there is a career that ties in this two - that would be awesome. Station Trading which is the most boring thing ever in a MMORPG. There are some variations of station trading which I actually enjoy very much- most notably station seeding/supplying. Decent semi-passive income, not too much effort, and scales well. Only problem is you need decent capital. This is a signature. It has a 25m signature. No it's not a cosmic signature. Probably. Btw my corp's recruiting.
Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 231	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:05:47 - [7] - Quote Scamming is the best ISK/effort profession BY FAR.
Keno Skir 1018	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:18:53 - [8] - Quote Hrist Harkonnen wrote: Mefju Andedare wrote: Hi guys! I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. What is the most fun, and/or profitable career path for a solo player, and what would you advise me to take? Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... but if there is a career that ties in this two - that would be awesome. Station Trading which is the most boring thing ever in a MMORPG. Tbh station trading takes approx 10-15 mins a day to generate decent cash if you're any good at it. Shouldn't cut into any other occupation really. Still a bit much effort for me but still <Gùï> 250,000 Bonus SP when you start an Alpha Clone HERE <Gùï> Including ISK Bonus & In Game Assistance - Piracy / Wormhole Space / Covops PvP
Mefju Andedare University of Caille Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:20:44 - [9] - Quote Was trying a little bit of exploration for past 2 days, but got nothing exept wormholes. Not a single data site/relic site. Really like it, but it seems I'm unlycky (or doing sth wrong). It was my first choice plan for my career, and I even started to train myself into that So far mining's generating for me the most income, though it's kinda boring. I'n not enjoying afk-playing that much. I like PVP overall, but I don't know if I'd be good at PVP in EVE. I'm currently moving around high and low secs.
Zimmy Zeta Lisa Needs Braces. 59772	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:27:08 - [10] - Quote Both station trading and invention/production require a significant investment of ISK to make it worth your time- If you don't even have enough for a PLEX, I'd advise you to stay clear of these activities for now. Maybe Faction Warfare would be the easiest money maker for you at this point- and it's even a fun activity. I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.

Persephone Alleile Tartarus Covert Operations 219	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:30:34 - [11] - Quote exploration can make decent isk if you know what you are doing. Bit tougher for Alphas though since they can't use cloaks.
Zakks State Protectorate Caldari State 60	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:36:45 - [12] - Quote Mission running is another option, especially if you run one account. They will give you ISK, improve your standings letting you run higher missions, and the Loyalty Points are a nice bonus. You will also gain experience with your ship, weapons and fittings (for Security Missions). If you want to do PvP combat and make some friends then follow Zimmy Zeta's advice and go Faction Warfare. Edit You will find earnings increase as your skills and experience do. Don't get frustrated initially by not making gobs of ISK, it will get better.
Shallanna Yassavi Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 450	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:44:14 - [13] - Quote Get an Imicus. Put 3 salvagers, a MWD, and cargo expanders, and salvage tackle on it. Take it to a system with a level 4 security agent. See if anyone will let you clean up after them. If you're lucky, you'll get one who doesn't know the price of elite drone AI. A signature :o
Neuntausend Rens Nursing Home 1129	Posted - 2016.11.30 19:57:50 - [14] - Quote There are no actual fixed career paths, at least within the boundaries of the game mechanic. You can mine today, run missions tomorrow and murder enemies in nullsec the day after. Do whatever you feel like doing. You are also by no means limited to what they show you in those carreer missions, or even by what the game itself provides in terms of content. There are many interesting professions and roles you can take that don't require any special support through the game mechanics, such as (counter-)intelligence, sabotage, theft, fraud, diplomacy, administration, command or corporate leadership. Really, we cannot tell you what you should be doing. My suggestion would be to get involved with a group of people, and see what they are doing, what roles they need filled, and if that particular group doesn't work for you, just leave* and find a different one. *) Whenever you leave a corp, make sure to either leave on good terms, or if you can't do that, try to take with you what you can and deal as much damage as possible on your way out. Don't settle for a middle ground as it will just leave a sour aftertaste for both sides. ;)
Sitting Bull Lakota SBL Co 235	Posted - 2016.11.30 20:53:21 - [15] - Quote I'm reasonably confident that Faction Warfare will have the best isk\hr for the least sp investment. You also get the added benefit of being in a pvp rich environment filled with some of the most talented solo/gang pilots out there. Even if you spend 99% of your time dying horribly in cheap ships, you'll still be racking up lp and pvp experience. It's the Osmosis Academy of PvP.
Mister Burns Hedion University Amarr Empire 12	Posted - 2016.11.30 21:38:49 - [16] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Was trying a little bit of exploration for past 2 days, but got nothing exept wormholes. Not a single data site/relic site.. You're doing it wrong! You're supposed to go INTO the wormholes and scan for pirate data/relic sites in w-space.
Tremaine Holden Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2016.11.30 21:44:00 - [17] - Quote Being rich in real life of-course! Why /work/ for isk when you can just BUY it with PLEX? Man, if someone rich ever decided to play EVE I bet they could really upset the market just buy blowing 10 to 15 grand on PLEXES. How much money would that be??
Mefju Andedare University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.30 21:46:05 - [18] - Quote Guess I'll give up with exploration. Fould 2 relic sites today (just wow) and got killed twice. I must be very unfortunate, or I just don't know the game mechanics just yet. Bring up with something less risky
Paranoid Loyd 9853	Posted - 2016.11.30 21:49:49 - [19] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Guess I'll give up with exploration. Fould 2 relic sites today (just wow) and got killed twice. I must be very unfortunate, or I just don't know the game mechanics just yet. Bring up with something less risky You are 10 days old, it's really silly to give up already. You've lost 5mil in assets, if you keep at it, it only takes one lucky drop to eclipse that loss by many orders of magnitude. Keep at it, I'd gladly reimburse your losses if I wasn't working and could be bothered to log in. Someone help this guy out. "There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix Fix the Prospect!
Bjorn Tyrson EVE University Ivy League 23	Posted - 2016.11.30 21:52:45 - [20] - Quote Tremaine Holden wrote: Being rich in real life of-course! Why /work/ for isk when you can just BUY it with PLEX? Man, if someone rich ever decided to play EVE I bet they could really upset the market just buy blowing 10 to 15 grand on PLEXES. How much money would that be?? There are some VERY rich people who play eve. And there have been stories of people who have dropped thousands of dollars on plex. And it barely made a ripple in the market. Now something that I would be very curious to see is statistics on the total net worth of the entire player base in isk. And what that translates to in theoretical plex.

2Sonas1Cup 158	Posted - 2016.11.30 21:55:27 - [21] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Guess I'll give up with exploration. Fould 2 relic sites today (just wow) and got killed twice. I must be very unfortunate, or I just don't know the game mechanics just yet. Bring up with something less risky Here's a good advice for you to completely ignore: Keep doing it and try to learn what yoire doing. If you coward and go back to highsec mining in your venture in fear you will never go anywhere nor will you learn.
Mikura Punisher Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.11.30 22:05:33 - [22] - Quote You know, the thing is I'm not afraid of learning, but I can't afford it. I was running L2 distribution missions and searching for relic/data sites for past 2 days and got only 2-3 mil IKS (having around 10 total).Few more risky trips and I'm broke I'll try the wormholes then - we'll see how it goes.
Mister Burns Hedion University Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2016.11.30 22:11:22 - [23] - Quote Mikura Punisher wrote: I'll try the wormholes then - we'll see how it goes. Just head back after the first site and cash in, that will pay for a few cheap exploration ships so you wont have to be afraid of losing them anymore. BTW, you WILL lose ships but your earnings from the sites will be so big that it doesn't matter if you die often. You could die 50% of the time and still earn a lot.
Neuntausend Rens Nursing Home 1132	Posted - 2016.11.30 22:18:38 - [24] - Quote You know, a solid group could really help with that... wink wink cough join a corp cough
Mefju Andedare University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.30 22:20:25 - [25] - Quote I'd cash it if only I survive at least one. So far I didn't. Found total of 3 sites, and got destroyed each time (maybe I managed to survive one, but I'm not sure though). Guess I'll have to earn some moyen by mining in high secs, and then go out for exploration.
Deck Cadelanne CAStabouts 368	Posted - 2016.11.30 22:37:17 - [26] - Quote 1. Ignore most advice given in this section of the forums. Instead, ask questions like yours in NCQ&A 2. Fun is entirely subjective and is entirely up to you, so try lots of stuff until you land on something you like doing 3. As far as earning ISK to PLEX - don't turn this game into a job if you can help it. A subscription isn't that expensive... *"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."* - Hunter S. Thompson
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3226	Posted - 2016.11.30 22:45:09 - [27] - Quote 1.Join a general highsec miner corp 2. Tell them about your plans and be very progressive about bringing them to the next level and become the new force in nullsec if they only mine enough an spend all their isk on the corporation. 3. become a director 4. kick everyone and steal all the ISK they grinded for months Probably the best ISK/h ever the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 8153	Posted - 2016.11.30 22:48:37 - [28] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: 1.Join a general highsec miner corp 2. Tell them about your plans and be very progressive about bringing them to the next level and become the new force in nullsec if they only mine enough an spend all their isk on the corporation. 3. become a director 4. kick everyone and steal all the ISK they grinded for months Probably the best ISK/h ever I was gonna suggest WH heisting but this is the next best thing, and quite a bit easier and less time consuming. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Mefju Andedare University of Caille Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2016.11.30 22:59:11 - [29] - Quote Guess I don't have a heart for being a total jerk. I equate miners as a class nerds... but they're ppl too, and they have feelings etc. I wouldn't be able to sleep at night after doing this kind of thing. Anyways... I guess I'll give exploration a few more chances, but I'm building my backup plan as a miner, to ensure I won't get broke anytime soon. We'll see how it goes. Wish me luck, lads!
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 8154	Posted - 2016.11.30 23:14:04 - [30] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Guess I don't have a heart for being a total jerk. I equate miners as a class nerds... but they're ppl too Yes, and just like everybody else playing this game, they accepted the risk of losing their ship the moment they undocked. Unless they are completely ignorant of what this game actually is, which is, at its core, a one-of-a-kind single-shard persistent player-driven sandbox where everything you do has an effect, great or small, on literally everyone around you. This is a PVP game, mate, from it's very core all the way to the top, and in every aspect, by virtue of everyone being in competition with everyone else in one way or another. That sweet relic site you're probing in lowsec? Someone else is probing it too, and if you don't beat them to it, but you want the stuff in it, your only other recourse is to blow them up. And if you're not beating them, they will beat you. That's EVE. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104

Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3227	Posted - 2016.11.30 23:14:48 - [31] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: I was gonna suggest WH heisting but this is the next best thing, and quite a bit easier and less time consuming. Haa, I was in a w-space corp once (my main Karak Terrel) and we only recruited on gunpoint, you know what I mean. This was how I joined the corp. And there was a guy we recruited who stole stuff from the corp over moths. we finally found out who it was, kicked him.. After about a year we found him, in another w-space system, with a new corp and POS and everything. We infiltrated his crop, we killed him mining in a battleship .. when he least expected it. we sieged his POS and obliterated his corp. It was glorious. Yeah, if I think about it.. go to w-space if you have the time.. it is so much more entertaining than highsec :-) the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 8154	Posted - 2016.11.30 23:19:13 - [32] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Remiel Pollard wrote: I was gonna suggest WH heisting but this is the next best thing, and quite a bit easier and less time consuming. Haa, I was in a w-space corp once (my main Karak Terrel) and we only recruited on gunpoint, you know what I mean. This was how I joined the corp. And there was a guy we recruited who stole stuff from the corp over moths. we finally found out who it was, kicked him.. After about a year we found him, in another w-space system, with a new corp and POS and everything. We infiltrated his crop, we killed him mining in a battleship .. when he least expected it. we sieged his POS and obliterated his corp. It was glorious. Yeah, if I think about it.. go to w-space if you have the time.. it is so much more entertaining than highsec :-) His mistake was stealing stuff over time. He should have taken it all in one go when everyone else was offline, after getting enough trust to take control of the POS('s), change their passwords in case anyone logged in, and then load up an alt or alts with freighters/dsts/whatever and get everything out of their quick smart. That is a heist. What the guy you caught doing, my heisting buddies and I call 'shoplifting'. It's small-scale and short-sighted. You don't take anything before the big one. If anything, you give the corp lots of cool stuff to gain their trust. A real heist requires investments like this, especially in time. Do it this way, and there's no need to siege the pos. You can just repackage it and put it in a freighter. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 3228	Posted - 2016.11.30 23:29:05 - [33] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Guess I don't have a heart for being a total jerk. I equate miners as a class nerds... but they're ppl too, and they have feelings etc. No seriously. I can understand what you say and this was what I thought years ago as well. But there is some point in the game I don't know... where you have to draw a line.. I mean it is ok for a few days to experience EVE as a game where you can grind resources for free without challenge. But at some point your really have to notice that this game is not the normal MMO grind game but a PvP sandbox where it is basically possible that your ship gets exploded and your **** will be stolen at every given time if you let your guard down. I have seriously no compassion for a player or a corp who forget this. I am at this moment playing a new innocent alpha clone with only one goal: infiltrate a carebear corp and steal as many assets as you can. It will be the first of many such clones, and it is a game in itself to try to be successful in this kind of gameplay. The name of the char itself gives it away and it we be more hilarious than everything else if it works. the Code ALWAYS wins Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 827	Posted - 2016.11.30 23:33:56 - [34] - Quote Tremaine Holden wrote: Being rich in real life of-course! Why /work/ for isk when you can just BUY it with PLEX? Man, if someone rich ever decided to play EVE I bet they could really upset the market just buy blowing 10 to 15 grand on PLEXES. How much money would that be?? As much as you're joking, you aren't wrong. A plex costs $20 and gets you 1.2 billion ISK. You can easily earn $20 in under an hour working IRL. Show me a playstyle that consistently gets you 1.2 billion ISK/hour. Just buy/sell a few plex and don't worry about ISK. If I'm going to grind for ISK, I'm going to do it in the most efficient way possible, which is doing it for cash IRL.
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 8156	Posted - 2016.11.30 23:40:08 - [35] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: Mefju Andedare wrote: Guess I don't have a heart for being a total jerk. I equate miners as a class nerds... but they're ppl too, and they have feelings etc. No seriously. I can understand what you say and this was what I thought years ago as well. But there is some point in the game I don't know... where you have to draw a line.. I mean it is ok for a few days to experience EVE as a game where you can grind resources for free without challenge. But at some point your really have to notice that this game is not the normal MMO grind game but a PvP sandbox where it is basically possible that your ship gets exploded and your **** will be stolen at every given time if you let your guard down. I have seriously no compassion for a player or a corp who forget this. I am at this moment playing a new innocent alpha clone with only one goal: infiltrate a carebear corp and steal as many assets as you can. It will be the first of many such clones, and it is a game in itself to try to be successful in this kind of gameplay. The name of the char itself gives it away and it we be more hilarious than everything else if it works. Translated TL;DR - if you grind for 6 hours, and then lose it all to someone who doesn't share your sensibilities about the feelings of the player on the other side of the ship, you're the one who's going to be hurting, and wondering why you just wasted six hours of your life. As an aside, I think someone is trying to infiltrate my corp at the moment. It's kinda funny and I might just let them because my corp has three people, no assets, and a whole lotta downtime between fights for dealing with attempted awoxers. Like, seriously, can someone try to awox me please? I'm bored af. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Khergit Deserters Crom's Angels 4731	Posted - 2016.11.30 23:46:07 - [36] - Quote Sitting Bull Lakota wrote: I'm reasonably confident that Faction Warfare will have the best isk\hr for the least sp investment. You also get the added benefit of being in a pvp rich environment filled with some of the most talented solo/gang pilots out there. Even if you spend 99% of your time dying horribly in cheap ships, you'll still be racking up lp and pvp experience. It's the Osmosis Academy of PvP. FW is really fun, to me at least. If you go with that, you might want to get into the Gallente-Caldari war. It's much more active than the Minmatar-Amarr one. I've never done them, but incursions are excellent isk-earners, no? Start the bubble machine! -Lawrence Welk
Roenok Baalnorn Sadistically Sinister 379	Posted - 2016.12.01 00:04:00 - [37] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Was trying a little bit of exploration for past 2 days, but got nothing exept wormholes. Not a single data site/relic site. Really like it, but it seems I'm unlycky (or doing sth wrong). I Thats because you are doing it wrong. All the good loot is in the WHs and your passing those up. Low class Whs have high paying sites in them.
PopeUrban El Expedicion Flames of Exile 241	Posted - 2016.12.01 00:31:16 - [38] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Was trying a little bit of exploration for past 2 days, but got nothing exept wormholes. Not a single data site/relic site. Really like it, but it seems I'm unlycky (or doing sth wrong). It was my first choice plan for my career, and I even started to train myself into that So far mining's generating for me the most income, though it's kinda boring. I'n not enjoying afk-playing that much. I like PVP overall, but I don't know if I'd be good at PVP in EVE. I'm currently moving around high and low secs. If you're scanning for sites in hisec you are wasting your time. Even if you find wormholes in hisec, they're going to be the first place every alpha that heard that relic sites are decent money have already been and cleaned out, and more often than not the conntcting chains to them will also already be used up by those same players. Find your nearest losec entrance. Start scanning for wormholes, jump in said wormholes and start looking for sites and more wormholes. Once your cargo starts filling up, either go back the way you came and sell ****, or look for another wormhole chain that gets you back to hisec to sell stuff. The trick to exploration is you have to be willing to dive deep and risk your ship to make money. The deeper the chain the less likely it is someone got to it before you did.
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 799	Posted - 2016.12.01 00:50:58 - [39] - Quote https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/evelopedia/index.php/Cosmic_Anomaly RIP Evelopedia Anyway, if you scroll down to 'escalations' you can see the sites that are marked with a 'c' and that means it was confirmed that those sites actually do escalate to the site that is indicated there. This is a list for rated DED sites. I find these sites very entertaining and you can get some sweet green and blue loots and faction BPC's for ships and stuff. When I was new, I followed the tutorials and then the SoE epic arc like you're supposed to, but after that I was quite lost as to what direction to go. Discovering and trying out Cosmic Anomalies is pretty fun and it gets you undocked and out there which can also create some competition and it gets really interesting if you're lucky to see that. @lunettelulu7
Conrad Makbure Trident Expedition 116	Posted - 2016.12.01 01:19:24 - [40] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Hi guys! I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. What is the most fun, and/or profitable career path for a solo player, and what would you advise me to take? Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... but if there is a career that ties in this two - that would be awesome. PvP is a valid career path, with multi account you can blast space truckers and take their stuff. Exploration has the thrill element because you can get engaged at any moment in WH/low/null. The rest of the stuff for earning income in this game is straight boring, like watching paint dry kind of boring. It's all supposed to be, I think, as a form of punishment for losing a ship in pvp or pve and having to replace it. That sounds like icelander logic to me.

Loutro Fift The Killer Cockatoos Initiative Mercenaries 30	Posted - 2016.12.01 01:35:54 - [41] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: Tremaine Holden wrote: Being rich in real life of-course! Why /work/ for isk when you can just BUY it with PLEX? Man, if someone rich ever decided to play EVE I bet they could really upset the market just buy blowing 10 to 15 grand on PLEXES. How much money would that be?? As much as you're joking, you aren't wrong. A plex costs $20 and gets you 1.2 billion ISK. You can easily earn $20 in under an hour working IRL. Show me a playstyle that consistently gets you 1.2 billion ISK/hour. Just buy/sell a few plex and don't worry about ISK. If I'm going to grind for ISK, I'm going to do it in the most efficient way possible, which is doing it for cash IRL. Good point. After spending way too much time ratting for small isk and/or getting blown up...I'd rather spend a few real life $'s, have the isk in the wallet and spend quality time in Eve. Ratting, grinding is not quality time.
Isaac Armer Wish to Dream The Blood Covenant 349	Posted - 2016.12.01 01:57:54 - [42] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: I have seriously no compassion for a player or a corp who forget this. I am at this moment playing a new innocent alpha clone with only one goal: infiltrate a carebear corp and steal as many assets as you can. It will be the first of many such clones, and it is a game in itself to try to be successful in this kind of gameplay. The name of the char itself gives it away and it we be more hilarious than everything else if it works. code, then this? Don't you want to try a playstyle that's actually difficult or challenging? I mean...infiltrating a corp like that is fairly trivial.... This is the FPS spawncamping equivalent of EVE...
Pix Severus Empty You 5138	Posted - 2016.12.01 04:02:56 - [43] - Quote I don't know why people always insist on a "career path" to follow in EVE, you can just do whatever you feel like doing. Try not to think in such limited terms when it comes to this game. When you login, think of what you want to do right at that moment, and then go do it. You will find what you're really looking for in this game if you do this. MTU Hunter : MTU Hunting 101
Remiel Pollard Shock Treatment Ministries 8157	Posted - 2016.12.01 04:15:38 - [44] - Quote Isaac Armer wrote: Ima Wreckyou wrote: I have seriously no compassion for a player or a corp who forget this. I am at this moment playing a new innocent alpha clone with only one goal: infiltrate a carebear corp and steal as many assets as you can. It will be the first of many such clones, and it is a game in itself to try to be successful in this kind of gameplay. The name of the char itself gives it away and it we be more hilarious than everything else if it works. code, then this? Don't you want to try a playstyle that's actually difficult or challenging? I mean...infiltrating a corp like that is fairly trivial.... This is the FPS spawncamping equivalent of EVE... Yeah cuz high-sec mobile tractor units are so challenging, aren't they. Come on then, Mr Challenging, if high-sec ganks aren't a challenge, you can show us how they're done with ease. GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥ - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Vortexo VonBrenner Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 2555	Posted - 2016.12.01 04:23:09 - [45] - Quote OP, what a person finds fun is completely subjective. Only you can answer what is fun for you. Don't try to get enough isk for a plex as an alpha clone (or a new omega clone for that matter). That has a high chance of frustrating you away from a good game. Just buy a subscription and thereby free yourself to try a few things in EvE you find interesting. The ways to make isk for you will come along the way. EvE security zones in pictures EvE quick reference pdf A wise man sums up EvE Smoke me a Kipper...
Alasdan Helminthauge HC - Krushaar Securities 4	Posted - 2016.12.01 04:31:51 - [46] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: As much as you're joking, you aren't wrong. A plex costs $20 and gets you 1.2 billion ISK. You can easily earn $20 in under an hour working IRL. Show me a playstyle that consistently gets you 1.2 billion ISK/hour. Just buy/sell a few plex and don't worry about ISK. If I'm going to grind for ISK, I'm going to do it in the most efficient way possible, which is doing it for cash IRL. I don't know which country you're from and how educated you're, but in my place $20 is a day's work for average young workers.
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 799	Posted - 2016.12.01 05:08:44 - [47] - Quote Pix Severus wrote: I don't know why people always insist on a "career path" to follow in EVE, you can just do whatever you feel like doing. Try not to think in such limited terms when it comes to this game. When you login, think of what you want to do right at that moment, and then go do it. You will find what you're really looking for in this game if you do this. This is the best advice so far. @lunettelulu7
Toobo Project Fruit House Solyaris Chtonium 316	Posted - 2016.12.01 05:26:52 - [48] - Quote If you already know how to scan & thinking about mining, read up on gas mining. Ninja gas mining in WH can be relatively safe with the right fit & precautions, and the ISK is better than whatever you can mine in HS for the same period of time. You probably won't be able to stick around & fight off the sleepers at this level, so you'd be gas mining for 15~20min window before sleepers spawn, so you won't be mining for hours on end, while the reward can be similar to mining HS ores for hours. "When faced with my demons, I clothe them and feed them, and I smile, yes I smile as they are taking me over" - Strange Glue
Mark Marconi Ministry of War Amarr Empire 138	Posted - 2016.12.01 05:36:09 - [49] - Quote The most profitable career in EvE is the one you enjoy doing the most. If looking at asteroids for hours while you relax is your thing then thats it. Blapping someone else and stealing their stuff tickles you then thats it. After all PI is profitable and I personally enjoy it but for most people it is like watching paint dry and if you spend too long doing something you don't like then your entertainment turns into work and that gets old really fast.
Geronimo McVain EVE University Ivy League 257	Posted - 2016.12.01 06:55:26 - [50] - Quote Sonya Corvinus wrote: Tremaine Holden wrote: Being rich in real life of-course! Why /work/ for isk when you can just BUY it with PLEX? Man, if someone rich ever decided to play EVE I bet they could really upset the market just buy blowing 10 to 15 grand on PLEXES. How much money would that be?? As much as you're joking, you aren't wrong. A plex costs $20 and gets you 1.2 billion ISK. You can easily earn $20 in under an hour working IRL. Show me a playstyle that consistently gets you 1.2 billion ISK/hour. Just buy/sell a few plex and don't worry about ISK. If I'm going to grind for ISK, I'm going to do it in the most efficient way possible, which is doing it for cash IRL. This. Buy a Plex and the starter Game is much more fun. At the moment you are worried what to do if your ship explodes and you loose all your money. If you have 1,2B Isk you can try what is fun to you and don't need to worry about money. With a 10 day char you can only earn peanuts and if you have 2-3 month to search for fun instead for Isk you have the skills do make real money. FW is good as long as you remember that you destroy your standing with some factions and know the consequences. WH can create a lot of money at high risk. Ninja mining can make excellent money but read some WH guides first, there are a lot of things you need to know to make the money and make it out in you ship and not in your pod.

Serafiel Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 14	Posted - 2016.12.01 08:48:15 - [51] - Quote 3 pages in this thread, and noone linked this: What to do in EVE online flowchart OP - go look thru it, pick something or other that sounds good and resonates, and try to achieve.
Isaac Armer Wish to Dream The Blood Covenant 349	Posted - 2016.12.01 23:48:23 - [52] - Quote Remiel Pollard wrote: Yeah cuz high-sec mobile tractor units are so challenging, aren't they. Come on then, Mr Challenging, if high-sec ganks aren't a challenge, you can show us how they're done with ease. The difference is I never called myself out as a PvPer. I like PvE and exploration. Try harder though, there isn't any real PvP in HS. I'm hunted in WHs and NS 90% of the time I play and almost never die. Get out of HS and risk hunting me if you want. Don't believe me if you want, I don't care. My ePeen doesn't have to be bigger than yours.
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 828	Posted - 2016.12.01 23:51:41 - [53] - Quote Alasdan Helminthauge wrote: I don't know which country you're from and how educated you're, but in my place $20 is a day's work for average young workers. I only have my own experience, but I was making $20/hr as a waiter in the US as a teenager.
CaseyLP H.O.N.K. Sixth Empire 1	Posted - 2016.12.02 00:07:46 - [54] - Quote In my opinionated opinion, I would say exploration. 2 isk. Beep beep!
Gregorius Goldstein Ze One Man Show 979	Posted - 2016.12.02 12:40:40 - [55] - Quote Fly something cheap, go everywhere and stay curious. - I found a POS without shield but some arrays while scanning for lost drones and sold the location because I couldn't afford the wardec at that time. - I found a AFK freighter inside a WH when doing relics that dropped 1 Billion in loot, I could only carry 150 Million away, but anyway. - When they changed the "seekers" to "lancers" I saw a marauder attack those. He put two down before he exploded right in front of a station and I got the loot, the salvage and some nice modules from the poor sod. - I found a full side of Golden Cytoserocin after I followed a auto piloting hauler into low-sec. - I found a gecko right in front of the jita undock. I tried ninja gas huffing, exploring, salvaging, hauling and drone rescue but what got me the most ISK was just poking around in space. Evry of those happy little accidents made more ISK than all my planned endeavors combined.
Alexis Red Red Corporation 8	Posted - 2016.12.05 06:26:01 - [56] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training Honestly, if you intend to grind for a plex, you'll get burned out quickly. If you like mission running, just stick to playing around with level 2 and 3 missions with an alpha clone and don't worry about plexing. Log in when it's fun and not for a job.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 10316	Posted - 2016.12.05 06:33:56 - [57] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... I was going to suggest buying PLEX and selling them for an income of over a billion ISK per minute. Then I realized that buying PLEX to sell to buy PLEX would be kind of a dumb suggestion. vOv Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 8054	Posted - 2016.12.05 08:45:02 - [58] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Hi guys! I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. What is the most fun, and/or profitable career path for a solo player, and what would you advise me to take? Need to earn some money to afford buying PLEX and progress with my skills training, so I'd go with profitable over fun... but if there is a career that ties in this two - that would be awesome. You ask the oldest question in the game. And there is no answer. A career in this game is what you make of it. Find the one you are best at and you will make the most you can with it. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
LulKlz Duster LulKlz 8	Posted - 2016.12.05 15:50:48 - [59] - Quote i prefer to make my isk mining rocks. And my corp mate manufacturers. And sell the extra stuff
Xavier d'Aigre The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.12.06 02:33:56 - [60] - Quote I tried all the things people always say in these threads, and I've thought each of them was the end all be all for about a week before I got tired of them. The best solution I've found is finding a few you like that work well together. For me, I mine like once or twice a week, then use that to make ammo. I then go fw for a while and turn the ammo faction with LP. Then I sell it. I market trade a lot, but more out of habit than anything. But all those careers work well for me. Also station trading is a good way to make it out of the "I'm new and everything is so expensive" phase. Ammo is your friend, and so is the loot your local rats drop that people actually use. Good luck, add me in game if you'd like and I can help you out.

Darth Terona Rifterlings Zero.Four Ops 304	Posted - 2016.12.06 03:13:08 - [61] - Quote No! Bad noob! I blame you Ccp! Don't chase the plex/injector crap as a noob. It will kill you. Go find something fun to do and your isk will follow. But don't think of eve in terms of, "I need to plex/inject my account" it will be like a second job to you.
Gregorius Goldstein Ze One Man Show 1015	Posted - 2016.12.06 10:03:33 - [62] - Quote Darth Terona wrote: No! Bad noob! I blame you Ccp! Don't chase the plex/injector crap as a noob. It will kill you. Go find something fun to do and your isk will follow. But don't think of eve in terms of, "I need to plex/inject my account" it will be like a second job to you. ^^This. And the offer for the first 6/12 month is cheap anyway. EVE is totaly worth the 8,50 Gé¼ per month and after that PLEXing is easier anyway.
Ihazcheez Hashur Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 15	Posted - 2016.12.06 11:23:09 - [63] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: 1.Join a general highsec miner corp 2. Tell them about your plans and be very progressive about bringing them to the next level and become the new force in nullsec if they only mine enough an spend all their isk on the corporation. 3. become a director 4. kick everyone and steal all the ISK they grinded for months Probably the best ISK/h ever Pretty much why we'd never recruit / interact with anyone outside of our real life social circle. Unfortunate, and very sad folks have the mentality to play this way.
Bivk Dvtt State War Academy Caldari State 4	Posted - 2016.12.06 12:12:01 - [64] - Quote Scamming is hands-down the quickest and less bothersome way to earn ISK. - Pretend to be a super nice guy/super nice girl (even better, but needs voice camouflage setup) - Befriend lonely space nerds - Steal all their stuff once they think you're their friend What's awesome is that it requires zero ingame skill nor prowess, only the ability to lie online, which is super easy if you're a... whatever Alternatively you can botspam market hubs but that requires some knowledge of ingame items Remiel Pollard wrote: Mefju Andedare wrote: Guess I don't have a heart for being a total jerk. I equate miners as a class nerds... but they're ppl too Yes, and just like everybody else playing this game, they accepted the risk of losing their ship the moment they undocked. Unless they are completely ignorant of what this game actually is, which is, at its core, a one-of-a-kind single-shard persistent player-driven sandbox where everything you do has an effect, great or small, on literally everyone around you. This is a PVP game, mate, from it's very core all the way to the top, and in every aspect, by virtue of everyone being in competition with everyone else in one way or another. That sweet relic site you're probing in lowsec? Someone else is probing it too, and if you don't beat them to it, but you want the stuff in it, your only other recourse is to blow them up. And if you're not beating them, they will beat you. That's EVE. Not ganking a miner just because there's a person with feelings on the other side is as bad as ganking them for the same reason, because you want to hurt them IRL by proxy of making them feel bad. Forget the person on the other side, the only thing that matters is what they can do in-game, and if they don't get that, it is their problem. You leave real life at the door when you enter this world, or you'll only make things harder on yourself. This sociopathy apologist makes billions each month. Learn how by interacting with him! I loled at "You leave real life at the door when you enter this world", as meta scammers described by "Ima Wreckyou" (epic name xD!) 100% rely on RL interactions to peddle their trade: they falsely befriend people on voice comms by using psychological tricks and pulling emotional strings.
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 556	Posted - 2016.12.06 12:18:10 - [65] - Quote Bivk Dvtt wrote: .... omg, internet spaceship/submarine simulator got you good huh? let it go, the pain will start to vanish once you move on.... Just Add Water
Cutter Isaacson wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion 3118	Posted - 2016.12.06 15:26:20 - [66] - Quote Ihazcheez Hashur wrote: Unfortunate, and very sad folks have the mentality to play this way. If you like Orcs and fantasy and stuff, you'd play WoW, because it is built specifically for that kind of person. If you like to run around an imitation of a real life city, stealing cars and killing hookers, you'd play GTA, because that's what it's designed for. If you want to be a tosspot, steal peoples hard earned digital goods, and then lol about it on the forums then you play EVE, because that's how it is designed. There's nothing sadder than someone complaining about other people playing the game the way it was designed. "The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
Mefju Andedare University of Caille Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2016.12.16 11:28:56 - [67] - Quote Okay... It's been a couple days since my last reply. Meanwhile, I 've read some tutorials, etc... and now I'm way better at exploring WH spaces. Earned like 140 mil ISK for the past 5 days (huge boost for me) and another 140 mil just previous day! Think I'll stick with exploring just for now :) I was running some L2 security missions too with ma Catalyst, but seems he's too weak for L3. Might consider investing in cruisers - are they enough for L3 missions? And BTW: what's the difference between cruisers and navy cruisers, exept this huge jump in price? As for exploration - I'm trying to stick to C1-C3 WHs, but very often I find sites flooded with npcs, and so I'm "losing" lotta loot this way. Is there a chance I can fight them with my T1 frigate with proper fitting? Cheers! :)
Dibz Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 154	Posted - 2016.12.16 11:39:41 - [68] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: Hi guys! I'm new to EVE, actually just started. Done all the career missions so far and I liked them all. Therefore I can't really decide what to choose. Now I'm just wandering around, doing a little bit of this and that, making little to none IKS per day. lol Nice try, except you accidentally posted on a 6 year old character: Mikura Punisher wrote: You know, the thing is I'm not afraid of learning, but I can't afford it. I was running L2 distribution missions and searching for relic/data sites for past 2 days and got only 2-3 mil IKS
Mefju Andedare University of Caille Gallente Federation 6	Posted - 2016.12.16 12:35:18 - [69] - Quote Yeah. That's because I was playing a free 2-weeks trial back in a day... and, as you probably know, the characters are not deleted. Can post a SS with his Skill Points trained if you don't belive me :P
Alejandro Rebenga 44	Posted - 2016.12.16 14:13:30 - [70] - Quote Any combat related career path(s), reason being you're more flexible this way as there are more uses of those skills in many parts of eve than other skill paths. PI, dead end. Mining, dead end. Blueprint skills, dead end. etc etc.

nezroy Nice Clan 39	Posted - 2016.12.16 16:27:51 - [71] - Quote Mefju Andedare wrote: I was running some L2 security missions too with ma Catalyst, but seems he's too weak for L3. Might consider investing in cruisers - are they enough for L3 missions? And BTW: what's the difference between cruisers and navy cruisers, exept this huge jump in price? Navy (and Pirate) ships have less skill requirements than T2, and Pirate hulls have potentially better "oomph". This CCP image from a while back sums up their goals: http://i.imgur.com/bO6MPkk.jpg. NOTE: CCP often fails spectacularly to meet their stated goals - you'll just have to play with fits for any given navy ship to see if it's actually worth flying. Navy Omens, for instance, are great. Navy Caracal? ... meh, won't see many of those around. Cruisers can definitely be enough for L3 missions. Blitzing L3's will probably not work out to ISK/hr comparable to exploration though. Decent mission income doesn't really start until blitzing L4's, which requires top skills & ability to fly BS or T3 hulls.
Salvos Rhoska 1698	Posted - 2016.12.17 11:10:18 - [72] - Quote Fun is subjective, but profitability is measurable. Some content is essentially gated, by requiring sufficient specialised SP, isk capital, residence/membership in corps/regions of space etc to achieve a dependable reward/risk quotient in terms of profitability: But for a new player, I recommend the following in terms of profitability, assuming you are not yet in a corp to support you: -Data and especially Relic exploration in NS or WHs. Risky, but there are precautions you can take. -Running HS DEDs will probably net you substantially more than HS L1-L3 combat mission running. Safe but its a lottery. -FW mission/complex running. Youll need to do reading to find out how to optimize for this. -Gas mining in WHs by low SP accounts has been pioneered. I hear profits are good if done right. -HS Ice mining is a steady, albeit lowish income. Good for afking. Special mention: -Station trading, if you have the business brains for it. -Scamming, if you have the conniving mind for it. -HS ganking/piracy, if you have the know-how for it. PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent


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