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Azazel The Misanthrope
Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2016.12.03 16:14:32 -
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Assault Frigate's role bonus should include a 50 -75% reduction to the effects of heat damage. This could emphasize their "assault" role more by allowing them to stay in the pressure cooker longer with better repairs and damage; while simultaneously better equipping them to run down faster targets by forcing them to overheat for longer than they are capable. A bonus like this could help the ships be more competitive with their contemporaries for bursts of time without overshadowing them completely and thus becoming menacing. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.12.04 10:16:03 -
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no more that 25% total(5% per level) and i personally like this HOWEVER i'm against it because there has to be a better way to fix these then giving them one of the only balanced flavorings of a T3
BLOPS Hauler
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Conogan Blitzkreig
Pod Relocators
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Posted - 2016.12.04 10:41:34 -
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Man something needs t o be done abouts the resources they require to build... Or something...cuz their prices right now are bs.... They should cost an average of 4 mil since they are below cruisers, not no 25 mil, double the price of cruisers. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.12.04 10:59:01 -
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lol they are T2 you pay more for a miner increase. that's how they all work besides in my experience AFs beat most T1 cruisers so that still seems right
BLOPS Hauler
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Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2016.12.04 11:11:10 -
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Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:no more that 25% total(5% per level) and i personally like this HOWEVER i'm against it because there has to be a better way to fix these then giving them one of the only balanced flavorings of a T3
Delete T3D's. AF's fixed.
The Law is a point of View
The NPE IS a big deal
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.12.04 11:29:10 -
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Kenrailae wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:no more that 25% total(5% per level) and i personally like this HOWEVER i'm against it because there has to be a better way to fix these then giving them one of the only balanced flavorings of a T3 Delete T3D's. AF's fixed.
i'm all for it
BLOPS Hauler
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.12.04 11:32:49 -
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T3 are the problem for lot of ship groups even after the nerfs. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.12.04 11:43:30 -
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baltec1 wrote:T3 are the problem for lot of ship groups even after the nerfs.
and yet we still get ppl asking for T3 BBs and frigs -.-
BLOPS Hauler
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Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
665
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Posted - 2016.12.04 11:47:02 -
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Impel bonuses on all the AF's. That's the way forward!
The Law is a point of View
The NPE IS a big deal
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Dior Ambraelle
University of Caille Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.04 12:58:58 -
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baltec1 wrote:T3 are the problem for lot of ship groups even after the nerfs. What if we would give them 1 subsystem slot that could give either attack, defense or speed bonuses? No more switching during combat. Would that help?
If you want an intelligent argument, please do, I'm up for it!
But if you want a trolling contest, I will win it by simply not participating.
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.12.04 14:46:47 -
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Dior Ambraelle wrote:baltec1 wrote:T3 are the problem for lot of ship groups even after the nerfs. What if we would give them 1 subsystem slot that could give either attack, defense or speed bonuses? No more switching during combat. Would that help?
well that would defeat the point.... sooo just remove them
BLOPS Hauler
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.12.04 17:55:36 -
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Dior Ambraelle wrote:baltec1 wrote:T3 are the problem for lot of ship groups even after the nerfs. What if we would give them 1 subsystem slot that could give either attack, defense or speed bonuses? No more switching during combat. Would that help?
Even easier than that.
Give them t1 destroyer stats, not bonkers level. |
Robert Caldera
Caldera Trading and Investment
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Posted - 2016.12.05 12:51:18 -
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yep, delete T3D from the game. There was no point of adding them, zero. |
Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.12.06 12:23:38 -
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baltec1 wrote:Dior Ambraelle wrote:baltec1 wrote:T3 are the problem for lot of ship groups even after the nerfs. What if we would give them 1 subsystem slot that could give either attack, defense or speed bonuses? No more switching during combat. Would that help? Even easier than that. Give them t1 destroyer stats, not bonkers level.
i think this would work let all of the benefit come from the pilots management of the roles
BLOPS Hauler
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Brown Pathfinder
Its a good day to die
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Posted - 2016.12.06 14:54:01 -
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Could look at how current t1 frigs are bonused and build upon that? Then also add t3 battleships and industrials and capitals, melted nanoribbons are barely worth the effort to farm these days and need some kind of buff to increase their value I think people complaining about t3's being OP haven't looked at other t1 and t2 ship classes wich haven't even seen rebalancing yet wich affects alot of other areas. |
SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2016.12.06 16:40:30 -
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Conogan Blitzkreig wrote:Man something needs t o be done abouts the resources they require to build... Or something...cuz their prices right now are bs.... They should cost an average of 4 mil since they are below cruisers, not no 25 mil, double the price of cruisers.
Yeah, one whole ratting tick (if you're a baddy) is a real wallet-buster.
"Help, I'm bored with missions!"
http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
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Posted - 2016.12.07 14:49:11 -
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Kenrailae wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:no more that 25% total(5% per level) and i personally like this HOWEVER i'm against it because there has to be a better way to fix these then giving them one of the only balanced flavorings of a T3 Delete T3D's. AF's fixed. AF's were bad before T3D's were even ingame. T3D's were the nail in the coffin. |
Kenrailae
mind games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2016.12.07 16:38:59 -
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Merchant Rova wrote:Kenrailae wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:no more that 25% total(5% per level) and i personally like this HOWEVER i'm against it because there has to be a better way to fix these then giving them one of the only balanced flavorings of a T3 Delete T3D's. AF's fixed. AF's were bad before T3D's were even ingame. T3D's were the nail in the coffin.
No they weren't. A few were. A few of everything always are bad. As a class though, AF's were in a pretty decent place, again making provision for the few that still needed help.
The Law is a point of View
The NPE IS a big deal
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Lugh Crow-Slave
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Posted - 2016.12.07 17:02:38 -
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Merchant Rova wrote:Kenrailae wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:no more that 25% total(5% per level) and i personally like this HOWEVER i'm against it because there has to be a better way to fix these then giving them one of the only balanced flavorings of a T3 Delete T3D's. AF's fixed. AF's were bad before T3D's were even ingame. T3D's were the nail in the coffin.
i used the hawk quit a bit
BLOPS Hauler
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baltec1
Bat Country Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2016.12.08 00:03:05 -
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Merchant Rova wrote:Kenrailae wrote:Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:no more that 25% total(5% per level) and i personally like this HOWEVER i'm against it because there has to be a better way to fix these then giving them one of the only balanced flavorings of a T3 Delete T3D's. AF's fixed. AF's were bad before T3D's were even ingame. T3D's were the nail in the coffin.
AF were some of the most popular ships in FW and harpies were used as a fleet doctrine. T3D invalidated a lot of ship classes when they hit (still do). |
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Azazel The Misanthrope
Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2017.02.09 15:41:11 -
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I honestly don't like the heat reduction bonuses on T3's and I think that they would be better suited for T2 ships anyway. |
Cristl
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Posted - 2017.02.09 18:59:57 -
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T3D's need a nerf, there's no two ways about it.
Keep the mode switch, that's cool, but their baseline stats need reducing.
Imagine a Corax fighting a T3D, and pretend the Corax pilot could select the T3D's mode. He still wouldn't have a chance, and that's skewed. Obviously, the Corax needs some general help too..., but you get my point. |
Kenrailae
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2017.02.09 19:07:48 -
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Nah, the Corax just needs CCP to release the Eve Online: Oceans expansion and then it'd be just fine.
The Law is a point of View
The NPE IS a big deal
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Azazel The Misanthrope
Oblivion Watch HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2017.02.14 22:45:22 -
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Cristl wrote:T3D's need a nerf, there's no two ways about it.
Keep the mode switch, that's cool, but their baseline stats need reducing.
Imagine a Corax fighting a T3D, and pretend the Corax pilot could select the T3D's mode. He still wouldn't have a chance, and that's skewed. Obviously, the Corax needs some general help too..., but you get my point.
The Corax is by far the worst ship in EVE. Corvettes are more fun. |
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