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Belteshazzar Santiagos Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.12.04 03:24:52 - [1] - Quote Just curious as a new noob, how did you make your first billion isk?
Ralph King-Griffin Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance 19501	Posted - 2016.12.04 03:41:06 - [2] - Quote My first bill came slowly and painfully through grinding missions. We're Back in Business , Murderers of Negotiable Motivations =]\|[=
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1740	Posted - 2016.12.04 03:50:22 - [3] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=331515&find=unread Good Ole Uncle Shah started a similar thread a few years back and it got stickied so it might be worth reading through. By first Billion I'm not sure if you just mean the first Billion isk that I earned total or first time that a made a Billion isk in one happening. For me I've never had a big payday. It's more been steady isk coming in over time. However there was twice that I've looted a Nightmare BPC once from a belt rat and once from an Anom faction spawn. Each of those was worth close to 800 Million at the time. So that was the closest that I ever came to one big pay day. Other than that it's just been the steady isk that comes from a wide variety of stuff: Minning, Missions, Anoms, Sleeper loot etc...
ergherhdfgh Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1742	Posted - 2016.12.04 03:59:58 - [4] - Quote Just as a qualifier to the above, when I was new to the game directly making isk was not as prevalent and making money from selling loot or the products of stuff made from loot was. So back then it was a little harder to put your finger on where your isk was coming from. Mission loot and salvage used to be worth a lot more than it is now so much of my value sat in hangars and would appear to be garbage to non-Eve players. However I would melt down mission loot and produce ammo and ship and rigs and such from my mission loot and manage sell orders for that stuff. Back then much of my isk came to me when I was logged off so it was hard to have a sense of actually making your isk. It was just something that kind of happened when I played. Since those days incursions have been introduced and there have been several and various types of loot nerfs. The Noctis and Mobile Tractor Units have been introduced to the game. The source of your isk now seems to be less obfuscated or at least that is how I see it.
Iria Ahrens Space Perverts and Forum Pirates 1343	Posted - 2016.12.04 04:51:14 - [5] - Quote My first billion was a bottom feeder order. I put a bunch of region wide orders for production chemicals at 1 isk each and someone dumped several hundred thousand units in a ls system. I was pretty excited and spent the next few days full of paranoid while I shipped that stuff out. My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.
Soloman Jackson Locust Assets 627	Posted - 2016.12.04 05:31:46 - [6] - Quote Two weeks after me and my brother joined a veteran null player quit and gave us his ISK and assets. Sometimes, "Can I haz ur lootz?" pays off. "I heard you know a thing or two, about a thing or two. Maybe we can come to an understanding..."
Vigirr 141	Posted - 2016.12.04 07:00:23 - [7] - Quote My first bil happened really late, I had already been playing for 3+ years and mostly been either a newbie or a covert op scout, first in low sec and then in several 0.0 alliances. I did make some money there trading goods from Jita to our 0.0 station using my covert, back then T2 was really expensive (covert cloak was 95 mil, for instance) so you could make some really good profits using a cargo expanded Helios (rip). Still, I did it mostly to stay afloat so never really actually had money to spare. Then I made my first piracy character and started doing can flipping, after some time to get the hang of it the money started rolling in. Ransoming Hulks for 100-150 mil a pop, with a decent payout rate, started to work out for me. Then I moved on to being able to handle the ships they'd come back in (like the inevitable shitfit CNR) and actively pursuing ships like that by doing mission busting. Apart from the money I made with that I also got a ton of loot over time, lots of CN BCS and invuls, and at some point I decided to have a peek at how much that pile was actually worth. Turned out to be 22 bil which back then was quite a bit.
Netan MalDoran Last Garrison 265	Posted - 2016.12.04 07:00:58 - [8] - Quote PLEX :P "Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! Falcon's truth
Lulu Lunette Savage Moon Society 811	Posted - 2016.12.04 07:06:03 - [9] - Quote Lots and lots of 3/10's, faction rat spawns and relic sites @lunettelulu7
Tipa Riot Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 3131	Posted - 2016.12.04 08:06:05 - [10] - Quote Relic sites and various other stuff, missions, loot. I don't recall reaching the 1B as something special, it just happened, but I well remember my first 10B from manufacturing. I'm my own NPC alt.

Do Little Virgin Plc Evictus. 589	Posted - 2016.12.04 09:20:50 - [11] - Quote My first billion came fairly quickly. I had 2 sources and both are available to new players. First, I manufactured small rigs. Profitability was good once I understood the markets but learning the markets was the most important benefit I got there. You won't get rich selling to buy orders! Second, I ran distribution missions. Once I had standing to run level 4 distribution missions for Sisters of Eve it didn't take long. http://evemaps.dotlan.net/system/Gicodel It usually took 2-3 hours to earn the 30000 LP I needed for an Astero blueprint and, in those days, the ships were selling in the 80-90 million range. If SOE sent me to lowsec, I ran distribution missions for Gallente and did quite well building faction modules like navy co-processors and EANM. Negotiation and Distribution Connections are important skills - get them to level 4. I also looked for bargains on salvage and tags while running my missions - on average, I probably paid half what they would have cost me in Jita. The hardest part is getting the standing to run level 4 missions. I did all 3 sets of Gallente career missions, the Minmater career missions and the SOE epic arc. That got me to level 3 and, from there it's pretty quick to get level 4 - especially if you can run the security storylines - get a friend to help. Kidnapper/Gurista Strike level 3 storyline gives a massive standing boost and it isn't difficult if you blitz the last room. The industrial you get free with the career missions can easily run the missions - fit enough cargo rigs/mods for 8K M3. You'll need to make a few trips for one of the storylines. The first time I made a billion in one day was the Ascension launch. I anticipated the demand for mining drones and drone augmentation rigs. I put a lot of them on the market in the morning at outrageous prices and they sold out before I got home from work.
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 57632	Posted - 2016.12.04 09:58:06 - [12] - Quote Belteshazzar Santiagos wrote: Just curious as a new noob, how did you make your first billion isk? I must be playing this game wrong because after 8+ years I'm still trying to make a Billion ISK. Course I'd probably be space rich if I wasn't a damn Pack Rat. DMC 'The Plan' \| California Eve Players \| Proposal - The Endless Battle
Mister Burns Hedion University Amarr Empire 16	Posted - 2016.12.04 13:56:09 - [13] - Quote Belt ratting in Stain
Alaric Faelen Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes 399	Posted - 2016.12.04 15:05:12 - [14] - Quote I didn't have a bil in my wallet for almost two years of playing Eve. I was busy losing ships and exploring content rather than hording isk. Only once I was in null sec with an SRP did my wallet ever get that big. Then it was only because I was bored at times and went ratting. When you can lose a couple billion in ships every month and it costs you nothing.....making isk is just a hobby.
Vimsy Vortis Shoulda Checked Local Break-A-Wish Foundation 4649	Posted - 2016.12.04 17:45:17 - [15] - Quote Someone gave it to me so I would kill somebody else.
Bienator II madmen of the skies 3595	Posted - 2016.12.04 18:45:29 - [16] - Quote i believe i made the first billion with regular missions. Because my goal was to fly a battleship when i was new since i liked how they looked. And lvl4 missions were a way to use it. Keep in mind that a billion used to be more than it is today since making isk was more time consuming, things also costed less, e.g a dominix was 80mil or so. how to fix eve: 1) remove ECM 2) rename dampeners to ECM 3) add new anti-drone ewar for caldari 4) give offgrid boosters ongrid combat value
Dirty Little Girl Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2016.12.04 18:47:52 - [17] - Quote Belteshazzar Santiagos wrote: Just curious as a new noob, how did you make your first billion isk? How to say...it was semilegally liberated from someone.
Chainsaw Plankton Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State 2328	Posted - 2016.12.04 19:16:02 - [18] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: My first bill came slowly and painfully through grinding missions. pretty much the same. Although I was constantly investing into things like building a stockpile of ships, or trying some new trade strategy, so I very likely had a bunch of billion in assets before I ever hit a billion isk in my wallet, back in the day you got a ton of t1 mods from missions and could reprocess them for near 100% of the mineral content. Worlds collide was probably my favorite mission thanks to all the 425mm railguns it could drop. I mostly manufactured battleships from my loot. @ChainsawPlankto
gfldex 804	Posted - 2016.12.04 21:27:44 - [19] - Quote When lvl4 missions where added to highsec the NPCs stayed on the player that warped in first. Any following wave did also stay on target and all waves spawned at the same spot. They did hurt tho and there where no rigs. Tanking them wasn't easy. A mate of mine was tanking and I was sitting with a gank fitted mega (that was before the stacking nerf on dmg mods) blastering with 4kdps left right and center. We build a whole fleet of BS from the loot (that wasn't nerfed back then either). I have fond memories of missions where you can't get stuck on a gate because there was not gate to start with. IIRC it took us a little over a week to make 1B just in bounty each. If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Cara Forelli Better Off Red Unspoken Alliance. 2150	Posted - 2016.12.04 21:57:35 - [20] - Quote I ran across someone willing to buy a specific wormhole system location for 4 billion isk. I had the awesome luck to find it within 30 minutes of looking (ok....plus a little skill). When I contacted them they told me someone else had already found it. I went to bed sad. The next day they contacted me and said they needed it after all! Easiest 4 bil I ever made. Not quite sure if it was my first billion, but it was definitely my first 4 billion. Never grind for isk...there's always some more interesting way to get your hands on it if you look around... Want to talk? Join my channel in game: *House Forelli* Titan's Lament

Vortexo VonBrenner Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning 2561	Posted - 2016.12.04 22:49:21 - [21] - Quote Belteshazzar Santiagos wrote: Just curious as a new noob, how did you make your first billion isk? inter-regional and/or speculation trading. However...my first million isk was for me more memorable. That was a lot of mining in a navitas, but felt like an achievement. OP, don't concern yourself too much with making isk. Just enjoy the game, the isk will come as you learn to recognize where it's at. EvE security zones in pictures EvE quick reference pdf A wise man sums up EvE Smoke me a Kipper...
Rei Y Minmatar Citizen 90483936 Corporation 4	Posted - 2016.12.04 23:32:11 - [22] - Quote station trading. made my first 10 bils this way. but quit it soon after.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 6543	Posted - 2016.12.05 07:40:33 - [23] - Quote Probably from doing sites in w-space. Do 4 capital escalation in a C5, or one capital escalations in a C5 or C6, netted us from 700m to 1.4b each (4 people) once a week, for 4 hours of effort ... and some luck from rolling a good wormhole.
Gregorius Goldstein Ze One Man Show 984	Posted - 2016.12.05 10:04:31 - [24] - Quote I didn't make a billion yet but I had it floating in space right before me. Loot fairy was extra cruel: She saw my small cargo hold and decided to drop 100% of the Mastodon's cargo. https://zkillboard.com/kill/56509186/
Nat Silverguard Aideron Robotics 548	Posted - 2016.12.05 13:17:48 - [25] - Quote Sold PLEX and LP stuff Just Add Water
Hrist Harkonnen Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2016.12.05 14:54:32 - [26] - Quote Belteshazzar Santiagos wrote: Just curious as a new noob, how did you make your first billion isk? Someone sent to me before quitting. Try EVE Online for FREE with 250.000 extra skill points here!
Xtreem Knockaround Guys Inc. Sin City Coalition 468	Posted - 2016.12.05 15:11:37 - [27] - Quote Eve like RL is a case of the more isk you have the easier it is to make more. Like many my first billion was missions, some low level trading etc, not I am on 150+ not including assets it's alot lot easier to make single billions given some motivation to do so.
Black Pedro Yammerschooner 2994	Posted - 2016.12.05 15:51:51 - [28] - Quote Did inter-region hauling/trading for the first 100-200M ISK until I took a loss on a margin trading scam. Then I did a series of small-time margin trading scams myself to get up to 800M or so before I went into single-station flipping (with some lowsec PI on the side) until I hit the 5B mark. Then I had the capital to experiment with some more nuanced inter-region arbitrage and other opportunities that has made me perhaps not space-rich, but at least space-comfortable with only small, but consistent, effort. The 8 Golden Rules of Eve Why Do They Gank?
BearThatCares Krypted Gaming 15	Posted - 2016.12.05 16:11:27 - [29] - Quote Mainly exploration! Krypted Gaming has written up a few posts on how to make your first billion, check out the following, http://kryptedgaming.com/ded-compexes-eve-online/ http://kryptedgaming.com/exploration/ http://kryptedgaming.com/gas-harvesting/
SurrenderMonkey Space Llama Industries 2815	Posted - 2016.12.05 16:59:12 - [30] - Quote Once upon a time there was a system called "Escrow". Escrow was basically contracts, but arcane to the point that it was probably designed specifically for wizards. If you knew what things were worth, it was a fountain of underpriced swag. "Help, I'm bored with missions!" http://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

Galaxy Duck Galaxy Farm Carebear Repurposing 240	Posted - 2016.12.06 13:21:40 - [31] - Quote I sold someone a wormhole that I didn't own and had never been to for 3 bil. It came with a faction tower, dread, and pocos. :)
Mephiztopheleze Laphroaig Inc. 1127	Posted - 2016.12.06 15:38:07 - [32] - Quote I wrote some vaguely interesting articles for themittani.com as their resident newbie when I first started. Due to excessive beverage, the payroll for the month was running a little late. The HR manager at the time sent me 100m to tide me over. They accidentally sent me ISK1b. So, my first billion ISK actually came with a billion ISK debt, which I paid off, in full, over the next two months while merrily welping ships across RvB space and not concerning myself with mundane, newbro questions like "where will my next Maulus come from?" Occasional Resident Newbie Correspondent for TMC: http://themittani.com/search/site/mephiztopheleze This is my Forum Main. My Combat Alt is sambo Inkura
Sonya Corvinus Grant Village 834	Posted - 2016.12.06 15:44:26 - [33] - Quote Moved to null after two months in game and worked as a dedicated scout/bookmark maker finding paths through WHs back to HS. Made it through thank you donations from the industrialists in null who didn't want to do that work themselves.
Lan Wang Knights of the Posing Meat Snuffed Out 3754	Posted - 2016.12.07 13:08:24 - [34] - Quote bought a load of plex then started my own business. Alliance Logo Design Service -- Loyalist to Angel Cartel
Nina Hayes Dark Horse RM 95	Posted - 2016.12.07 22:48:41 - [35] - Quote Little ship L1's, bigger ship L2's Big Bigger ship L'3s, Jumbo ship L4's...blew up after 2 days. Learned drones bought another Jumbo ship and made a billion, bought a Machariel for a billion and now it's worth a third.
Sara Starbuck Adamantine Creations 19	Posted - 2016.12.07 23:38:17 - [36] - Quote Hauled modules from Rens to Jita in probe, getting locked by tornado near the dodixie pipe with 200m in cargohold was freaking me up a bit, warped before he shot though, duno if he woulda even done it.
Orakkus m3 Corp Evictus. 282	Posted - 2016.12.07 23:40:06 - [37] - Quote My first billion was grinding missions and ratting in null-sec. I think I made it specifically by buying regular ammo, converting it to faction, then re-selling it on the open market. He's not just famous, he's "IN" famous. - Ned Nederlander
Ashiri Hareka Paper Cats 5	Posted - 2016.12.08 06:26:43 - [38] - Quote Belteshazzar Santiagos wrote: Just curious as a new noob, how did you make your first billion isk? Mental vampirism iirc. When the extractors came on the market I removed SP from an unused alt.
Ivory Harcourt Space Ants Army of New Eden 30	Posted - 2016.12.08 11:39:05 - [39] - Quote Incursions back when they were doable in a battlecruiser and when I could've gotten a billion in like 6 hours. It was also the main reason why I left the game. I've spent a month or two doing extremely exciting and dangerous things for some tens of millions of ISK (wormholes)... .and then I ran some utterly boring thing for 6 hours and I got money to plex 2-3 chars. Unfair.
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 10333	Posted - 2016.12.08 15:51:52 - [40] - Quote I did a lot of stuff on my way to my first billion. There wasn't a lot of big ISK items easily attainable back then. What I finally settled on was camping level 1 DOD complexes for Dramiel BPs and faction ABs and MWDs. Not as boring as you might think, though. Plenty of fights as I wasn't the only one in there most of the time and it was a race to the spawn with lots of stealing and subsequent T2 frigate (the largest ship you could get past the gate) fights. And you didn't want to lose. That meant having to spend even more time farming keys to get back in to the complex again. Simple times with simple pleasures. I look back fondly on those days. Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass!

Wakka Rocka Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 0	Posted - 2016.12.08 16:56:45 - [41] - Quote While training up my scanning skills, I took a destroyer out and started attacking combat anomalies in hisec space, namely Hideaways and Refuges. I found that Hideaways would occasionally spawn a commander NPC, who on rare occasions would drop faction loot. Sometimes this was just a measly amount of faction ammo, sometimes it was a 10 mil faction power grid module, and very infrequently it would be an implant worth anywhere between 45-150 mil. I spent a lot of time in the Rookie Help and Help channels, finding that the chats helped to alleviate the tedium. That got me about the better part of the way to a billion when I started getting bored of it, so I began scanning now that my skills were more up to snuff. I noticed some combat signatures called Hideouts and found that I could run them in a destroyer without much difficulty. Occasionally clearing these sites would send me on an escalation. If I was lucky, I would get every site in the chain of the escalation and would happen upon a commander NPC in the last site with some loot. One on such occasion the NPC dropped several faction modules totaling about 330 mil. That pushed me over. In hindsight, I probably should have just done some exploration. Would have been more exciting at the very least.
Mike Azariah The Scope Gallente Federation 3640	Posted - 2016.12.08 18:23:29 - [42] - Quote Isk is a score in a game. Unless it is used they are just digital images with little power of their own. I am above a billion right now but I do not consider any of it mine as I emptied my wallet before I started taking donations for the Bus. On paper I look rich but in reality? Yeah I live on old assets from running missions and events in the past. I did not set isk as a goal for myself in the sandbox, just the ability to do what I wanted to do. I know, I am weird that way. m Mike Azariah Gö¼GöÇGöÇGö¼n++ ¯\|(pâä)/¯
Rapala Armiron Arton Yachting and Angling Club Domain Research and Mining Inst. 57	Posted - 2016.12.08 18:59:50 - [43] - Quote Ganking folk - especially haulers and feasting on that sweet sweet goo inside. Seriously it is not hard to make isk. I never actually tired to make isk - if you just kill things and dont die all that much you will accumulate crap that you can sell. Hell the other day I was looking in one of my hangers and I noticed that I had 5 bil in crap - and I do mean crap - little bits and pieces of this and that, that are just not worth the effort to list for sale. I tried reprocessing some of it - but even that is too much effort. And as time goes on - boy of boy do you collect ships. Metas come and go - so over time I have collected shield ships, armor ships, ewar, logi, etc. . . most of which I never use because of reasons. So my advice to anyone who talks about making isk in the game is just relax - play the game the way you enjoy and iskies will come.
MadMuppet A Better Corp Name 1118	Posted - 2016.12.09 17:13:42 - [44] - Quote Missions and mining for my my first billion. Then I bought a Machariel. 30 minutes later, back to missions and mining to buy another one. Some lessons can be expensive. This message brought to you by Experience(tm). When common sense fails you, experience will come to the rescue. Experience(tm) from the makers of CONCORD.
Seer Profitus Hedion University Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2016.12.09 22:35:37 - [45] - Quote Earned my first billion through trading many years ago. Got back into the game beginning of October. Lost my 600M tengu because I shot the shields off a drifter battleship. Lost a little over 200M on a T2 ship roam. I had around 300M left and a freighter. It was then that I dug up an old industrial spreadsheet I had and went all-in on industry. It took 2 months to get to 10 billion while I improved the spreadsheet. The next 10 billion took less than 2 weeks. Profit finds a way.
Shallanna Yassavi Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 471	Posted - 2016.12.10 22:52:04 - [46] - Quote The first billion in one go was from flipping a Paladin. I got one with a buy order while the skills were in queue, decided I did not, in fact, want to mission bear with it, and sold it. I'd gotten a stack of 200 Mining Laser Upgrade II blueprint copies a while ago. When the Alpha update dropped, Mining Laser Upgrade II started selling like mad. I'd put a few out in the middle of a lot of competition and waited a while. Then they sold-and I noticed I didn't have any more competition, so I stuck the rest of them out for about 1M apiece. They all went in one go, cause they were worth more in Jita at the time. I didn't have the skills to research more of them, so... that was the end of that. A signature :o
Morgan Agrivar Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 692	Posted - 2016.12.10 23:42:38 - [47] - Quote Belteshazzar Santiagos wrote: Just curious as a new noob, how did you make your first billion isk? I will let you know after I get there. :P Seriously, I got my first billion living in a wormhole. I was gas mining for the alliance I was in and we had one guy leave my corporation and he gave me 5b isk to keep the corporation running. Right after he left, pretty much everyone else left after that. The corporation fell apart and I went back to highsec. I held onto that 5b isk for over six months until I got a hold of him again. I tried to give the 5b back to him but he wouldn't take it, so I kept it. And lost it all since I didn't budget myself like I do now.
Jakara Dakara Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition 2	Posted - 2016.12.11 10:45:14 - [48] - Quote Made my 1st billion with mining. things where a lot different back then however so now a days I may elect to go about via ratting or exploring instead (neither where viable options at the time due to anomalies not existing the way they do now and data and relic sites did not have a mini-game yet).
Professor Sternu Tarantoga The Futurological Congress 0	Posted - 2016.12.12 12:41:05 - [49] - Quote Found some low m-¦, high value items that you can get very cheap with buyorders in one part of the Empire and can be sold for double to tripple that price 20 jumps away.. And I don't have to cross the notorious systems like Uedama.. Doubleing you ISK with every trip summs up to a lot of ISK fast. But it doesn't scale without limited, once you bought everything you have to wait unitl the buyorder fill again.
Marcus Blackthorn Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 21	Posted - 2016.12.12 15:19:23 - [50] - Quote Awhile ago I bought 10 Armageddons with the intention of using them in pvp (as you can see by my lack of killboard, this hasn't happened yet, and yes this is my main). Back then they only cost a little more than a Harbinger, and had different bonuses. Then for a few reasons I didn't log into EVE for a few months. When I came back Geddons where running right around 200 mil if I remember correctly.

Alaric Faelen Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes 406	Posted - 2016.12.14 00:23:55 - [51] - Quote Almost as soon as I joined a sov null alliance I had multiple billions of isk that I had very little use for. With an SRP covering all my combat losses, any PvE I did was purely for profit and a reason to log in when things were quiet. I could choose to not bother logging in at all because I didn't need to grind isk, or I could chase any content that just seemed interesting without worrying about it being profitable. Ratting and escalations was my primary PvE until I got into exploration. Any losses I took were far exceeded by the loot I was selling, and I only had to haul it as far as our base in null and sold it at a discount to my corp to avoid moving it myself. Basically I was as lazy as possible and still made billions doing nothing more than casual farting around at any given content.


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