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Clandestiny
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.15 14:47:49 -
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How does spamming the VOTE =ƒöä make Eve Great?
The creation of Skill=ƒÆëExtractors and Skill=ƒÆëInjectors damaged the integrity of the game beyond repair. G¢ö
And for what? Some quick =ƒÆ¦=ƒÆ¦=ƒÆ¦
May as well hit the reset button! =ƒÆú
I doubt Eve will EVER be great again...=ƒÿ¦
=ƒÄ» GÇ£People tell me I saved hundreds and hundreds of people. But I have to tell you: ItGÇÖs not the people you saved that you remember. ItGÇÖs the ones you couldnGÇÖt save.GÇ¥ =ƒÄ»
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Dibz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2016.12.15 15:25:27 -
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Warframe at 6k points
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Gregorius Goldstein
Ze One Man Show
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Posted - 2016.12.15 15:41:31 -
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mmogames is just a scam. Only adverts and whatever standard game news the marketing departments drop for free. Guess it's all about the "unique visitors" all their fake polls generate and the premium adverts in the background. |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.15 16:10:03 -
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I have ESO and GW2 accounts.
Both have nowhere near the depth of EVE, and both have development issues way beyond our concerns with CCP here in this game.
Im not surprised at the result cos people vote the one game they play, as a validation for playing it, as a result of playing it.
These polls are stupid and systemically so. And as poster above points out, dont care about the quality of a game or representing it, just traffic in their own sites interest.
I voted EVE, for what its worth.
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Val Kaleth
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Posted - 2016.12.15 17:41:55 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:I have ESO and GW2 accounts.
Both have nowhere near the depth of EVE, and both have development issues way beyond our concerns with CCP here in this game.
Complete crap in comparison.
Im not surprised at the result cos people vote the one game they play, as validation for playing it, as a result of playing it. "I play this game, and Im great, therefore the game I play must also be great"
These polls are stupid and systemically so. And as poster above points out, dont care about the quality of a game or representing it, just traffic in their own sites interest.
I voted EVE, for what its worth.
I also play ESO, but voted EVE, since EVE is special, and ESO is just a nicer version of the same old mmo clone kicking around.
Feel free to join me in game in the "Realm of Mischief" channel.
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Alan Greenspud
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.15 17:53:19 -
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om rootingking wrote:Implying it was at some point not great. Pls.
Yes, yes he is. CCP has made many mistakes over the past few years and the concurrent player count is proof of this. I'll give CCP credit the "Alpha" clone thing has helped to bring back many older players but I would challenge them to release how many new subscriptions they received from this expansion, we'll continue to watch the concurrent player count closely.
What;s wrong with EVE, besides the big ones "Wardec" and "Moon mining" to start with, additional EVE was a different game, where CCP was proud to release new features for free and they had continued development of this game without some new way for CCP to get paid, Skins, AUR, Extractors to name a few.
The biggest straw for us "Bitter Vets" is the game is way to easy, the game was difficult not because it wasn't refined, it was difficult because EVE was ruthless, today's EVE I expect SpongeBob SquarePants to popout of nowhere to hold my hand.
EVE simple lost its mystery, and CCP has failed to deliver new and exciting content over the past few years to create the sense of mystery once again.
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Da'iel Zehn
Evil Frosty's Premium Liqours and Fine Wines
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Posted - 2016.12.15 19:54:11 -
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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2016.12.15 21:28:48 -
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I don't know if the OP misspoke when he labeled this post as "Make EVE Great Again". Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, doesn't matter.
EVE, to me, has always been good. I will even say, a great game, and keeps getting better.
The voting will not make EVE great again. That is not the point, and lets not linger on that.
It's just for a bit of pride, maybe to see your game, if it is EVE, #1 in the voting ballots.
How many people know that EVE was entered into MOMA?
(there is no voting for "Hello Kitty", I only threw it in there to show that EVE is lagging behind in the most voted on category. EVE is ahead in 3 other categories. There's always been a reference to "Hello Kitty" in the forums over the years. (If you didn't like EVE, or it was too hard for you, then maybe go play "Hello Kitty".)
I would like to see EVE win out over all those other games, in all categories.
-Kirst
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.15 22:39:02 -
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If anything, the US election result has showed polls mean nothing
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2016.12.15 22:52:18 -
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Alan Greenspud wrote:om rootingking wrote:Implying it was at some point not great. Pls.
Yes, yes he is.
No, no I'm not. Don't speak for me, little boy, I was using a turn of phrase, and most people caught on to that.
Salvos, it's not a poll.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.15 23:00:31 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos, it's not a poll.
Then what is it?
I am aware of the difference between a vote and a poll. Polls are for purposes of statistical analysis, votes are for decisions on enactment by empowered individuals.
The "vote" in question, is a a poll.
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Demonspawn 666
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
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Posted - 2016.12.15 23:04:23 -
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voted...
again!
Anyone else notice the glaring error?
Star Citizen in 'Most anticipated 2017' category............ how many years has it been in that category now? 
Corp invites welcome!
I like blowing stuff up and talking cr@p.
Sense of humour and high tolerance to stupidity essential!
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2016.12.15 23:05:55 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos, it's not a poll. Then what is it?
It's not poll in the sense that it's testing which way the vote is going to go, as you alluded to. Is that better?
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.15 23:08:18 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos, it's not a poll. Then what is it? It's not poll in the sense that it's testing which way the vote is going to go, as you alluded to. Is that better?
You are not "voting" for anything in this instance.
You are merely giving a response to a poll.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2016.12.15 23:11:43 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos, it's not a poll. Then what is it? It's not poll in the sense that it's testing which way the vote is going to go, as you alluded to. Is that better? You are not "voting" for anything in this instance. You are merely giving a response to a poll.
Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?
I suggest you get a dictionary and check the definitions of the words you're using here, because you're arguing semantics. You alluded to the US pre-election polls as if this was something similar. It's not, it's that simple, but if you want to argue semantics and let Hello Kitty win instead of just going over there and voting for EVE, then please, feel free to waste your own time doing so, but I'm not going to argue this pedantic rubbish with you. Call it whatever you like. Just vote for EVE. Thanks.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Salvos Rhoska
1690
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Posted - 2016.12.15 23:14:41 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?.
Correct.
Albeit ignoring the "considered" factor in your wording, which is subjective and irrelevant.
Yes, responses to polls are not voting. Period.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2016.12.15 23:17:42 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote: Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?.
Correct. Albeit ignoring the "considered" factor in your wording, which is subjective and irrelevant. Yes, responses to polls are not voting. Period.
So, by your own definition, the race for best MMO is not a poll, since people are voting there. Awesome, glad we cleared that up. Now go vote for EVE.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2016.12.17 15:52:20 -
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EVE is fading fast in the voting!
Warframe - 7008
Guild Wars - 2867
Elder Scrolls - 2173
EVE - 1632
Warframe has gotten 214 votes in the last two days, and EVE has gotten 7. Pathetic (I think at least 4 of the last 7 have been mine.)
I guess the players of Warframe like their game more than the players of EVE like theirs.
-Kirst
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2016.12.17 16:07:44 -
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Ion Kirst wrote:EVE is fading fast in the voting!
Warframe - 7008
Guild Wars - 2867
Elder Scrolls - 2173
EVE - 1632
Warframe has gotten 214 votes in the last two days, and EVE has gotten 7. Pathetic (I think at least 4 of the last 7 have been mine.)
I guess the players of Warframe like their game more than the players of EVE like theirs.
-Kirst
The same could be said for McDonalds vs a quality 3-star restaurant though. The mainstream games will always attract a mainstream audience. EVE can't win these things because of that. But we can damn well give it a good showing nonetheless.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Expendable Unit
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
20
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Posted - 2016.12.17 16:51:22 -
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Putin now already has to make Russia as well as the US great again (since he will be ruling both), but now Eve as well ? Come on, give him a break. |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.17 19:32:28 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote: Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?.
Correct. Albeit ignoring the "considered" factor in your wording, which is subjective and irrelevant. Yes, responses to polls are not voting. Period. So, by your own definition, the race for best MMO is not a poll, since people are voting there. Awesome, glad we cleared that up. Now go vote for EVE.
Its not a vote. Its a poll.
None of these sites have a mandate to declare the best MMO by vote. All they can do, is poll.
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Kamala Sakar
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.17 21:16:55 -
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Atleast the top contenders are pretty ok. The fact that ES:O have more then 2.500 votes is a travesty since it's easily the biggest letdown in MMO:s I have ever had. Bethesda really dropped the ball when they let a bunch of newbies take control of their franchise game. |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2016.12.18 00:56:08 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote: Oh really? So, responses to polls aren't considered voting?.
Correct. Albeit ignoring the "considered" factor in your wording, which is subjective and irrelevant. Yes, responses to polls are not voting. Period. So, by your own definition, the race for best MMO is not a poll, since people are voting there. Awesome, glad we cleared that up. Now go vote for EVE. Its not a vote. Its a poll. None of these sites have a mandate to declare the best MMO by vote. All they can do, is poll.
Stop trolling, Salvos. Sheesh mate, sometimes you're more autstic than I am on these forums, and I'm pretty autistic.
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Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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Ion Kirst
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2016.12.18 15:30:18 -
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Maybe this will help:
Hillary won the polls,
Trump won the vote.
-Kirst
Always remember Tovil-Toba, and what was done there.
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Kamala Sakar
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2016.12.18 15:52:26 -
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To Warframes defence atleast it's a decent game. Guild Wars 2 feels rather meh and Elder Scrolls: Online is just an awful game. |

Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.18 17:57:35 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:
Stop trolling, Salvos. Sheesh mate, sometimes you're more autstic than I am on these forums, and I'm pretty autistic.
Trolling is making aggravating statements you dont believe in, for purposes of eliciting emotional reactions and conflict4.
The autistic cannot troll. They lack the capacity/impetus to do so, because they are impaired in emphatic faculty, lack theory of self, and thus cannot anticipate or much less manipulate the reaction from others.
I hate this meme. Im just saying things as I see them, same as you.
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Ion Kirst
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Posted - 2016.12.18 19:20:53 -
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http://www.mmogames.com/topmmos/best-mmo-of-2016/
Geez, if everyone who's online now in EVE voted, there would be over 46,000 votes!
I'm going to start mentioning the voting in game. I got people spread out over 3 different systems, and races.
Maybe it will help.
-Kirst
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Salvos Rhoska
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Posted - 2016.12.18 19:39:04 -
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Pitiful insignificant poll on an irrelevant site Ive never even heard of.
I have an ESO account. Its a disaster compared to EVE.
This is self-serving marketing trash of no consequence. Every pointless game review site is trying to push their own various "awards" as if they matter. They pump site advertisement money into hack reviewers that write crap articles on the last night of the deadline with usually barely any time played in the game in question.
I despise these sites.
Maybe they hope they will get free stuff, exclusive interviews or paid passes to events. In anycase, they are half a55ed producers of no relevant/valuable content.
These polls mean nothing. Its nonsense. All that matters, is if people pay to play a game. If people pay to do that, that is the highest accolade, and the most functional to a games future and development.
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Ion Kirst
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Posted - 2016.12.18 22:41:04 -
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Salvos,
Well, after that rant, kiddo, it looks like from this point on you should have nothing more to say.
If you think no one cares about EVE in this voting, we even care less about what you say.
Did you say all that in one breath?
I think you're are so done with this.
adios,
-Kirst
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
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Posted - 2016.12.19 01:11:36 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Cynical rubbish.
Then don't vote. No one is forcing you to vote, no one is forcing you to comment here, nobody but you made the decision to expatiate that absolute dribble you just did. Like, people call me and others here 'bittervets' for not liking their bad, un-eve-like ideas, but you're just damn bitter man.
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Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
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