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Vincent Lionhart	Posted - 2007.04.07 15:41:00 - [1] Playing a game is supposed to be fun, frustrating at times yes (to make it seem like you accomplished something after you've hit your goal) but what the hell's the point of us getting permajammed?
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.04.07 16:54:00 - [2] So more people start using the forums to type out poorly thought out whines, so less people are actually playing Eve, leading to... less lag! Hooray! Just use FoFs. Not Caldari? Use drones. Not in a Domi? Well I guess you're screwed then. --- Originally by: CCP Sharkbait will explain when i have the time i promise
Visionsz Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.04.07 16:59:00 - [3] When doing Guristas missions make sure you are well tanked in the off chance that you get jammed for around 10 cycles, especially when scrambled :) To be honest though it adds to the game, missions shouldn't be that easy otherwise it would get boring pretty quick. Just some pics!
Vincent Lionhart	Posted - 2007.04.07 17:09:00 - [4] Originally by: Marquis Dean So more people start using the forums to type out poorly thought out whines, so less people are actually playing Eve, leading to... less lag! Hooray! Just use FoFs. Not Caldari? Use drones. Not in a Domi? Well I guess you're screwed then. I'm not entirely sure where your hostility comes from, so I'll keep it simple: **** you. I realize it adds to the difficulty but it's annoying as hell. I can tank them indefinitely, it's just annoying how I fire one volley of missiles, get jammed, rinse repeat 2348 times.
Jei'son Bladesmith Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium	Posted - 2007.04.07 17:11:00 - [5] Tho I DO hate permajamming guris (I don't mind being jammed, but when loading up on sensor backups don't even help it IS pretty damn frustrating) but the simple fact of the matter is that it happens. You can refuse the missions you know it will happen on, or you can adapt your tactics to get around it. Starting a new thread on a topic that has already been hashed to death in at least a dozen threads that I know of won't solve anything. *☼☼☼ Confidence keeps you alive...cockiness will get you podded ☼☼☼*
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.04.07 17:19:00 - [6] Heh heh, poor baby girl. 1/ If you'd used the search function, you'd have found a dozen threads about NPC EWar. 2/ If you'd made a well-thought out question, instead of a single-sentence whine. 3/ I don't like answering questions more than twice. 4/ I offered reasonable solutions. --- Originally by: CCP Sharkbait will explain when i have the time i promise
Sean Dillon Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.04.07 19:14:00 - [7] Have you tried to use FOF missiles? I always carry a load these days.
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.04.07 19:41:00 - [8] Originally by: Sean Dillon Have you tried to use FOF missiles? I always carry a load these days. Lol, duck! --- Originally by: CCP Sharkbait will explain when i have the time i promise
Jei'son Bladesmith Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:43:00 - [9] Originally by: Sean Dillon Have you tried to use FOF missiles? I always carry a load these days. God I hate FOFs...."NO NO NO NOT THE WALL SEGMENT....SHOOT THE FREAKIN FRIGS AAHHHHHH" *☼☼☼ Confidence keeps you alive...cockiness will get you podded ☼☼☼*
Visionsz Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:45:00 - [10] Got to be honest and say FOF's are a waste of time :) Just some pics!
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2007.04.07 21:53:00 - [11] Look on the brightside, you can read the forums while waiting for the 10 minute permajam to end.
Strak Yogorn Amarr	Posted - 2007.04.07 22:12:00 - [12] bring a buddy ? ... eccm ? i like it that you actually have to think/do something during missions now.. was getting way to easy .... good job CCP...
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2007.04.07 23:18:00 - [13] Originally by: Strak Yogorn bring a buddy ? ... eccm ? i like it that you actually have to think/do something during missions now.. was getting way to easy .... good job CCP... They changed them from kinda challenging to kind of annoying but very easy.
Elain Reverse Caldari Shokei	Posted - 2007.04.08 00:38:00 - [14] Originally by: Marquis Dean Heh heh, poor baby girl. 1/ If you'd used the search function, you'd have found a dozen threads about NPC EWar. 2/ If you'd made a well-thought out question, instead of a single-sentence whine. 3/ I don't like answering questions more than twice. 4/ I offered reasonable solutions. ad 4) No you didnt. - There is no Torp fof version - fof do less dmg and pick random targets, what mean you dont even break tank on some elite ships or BS - Some mission kill drones prety fast - Some mission using drones give you full agro and not mentioning after you already atacked and jamed, geting drones from bay do nothing as they will just orbit you. and not everyon use missiles at all.
Elain Reverse Caldari Shokei	Posted - 2007.04.08 00:43:00 - [15] Originally by: Big Al Look on the brightside, you can read the forums while waiting for the 10 minute permajam to end. Oh realy ? If you read forum when jamed it dont help, you will just get 10 more minutes jaming. And no, targeting 8 rats every 20s for like 30 minutes is not fun, its not even annoing, its making me angry as its damn make me clicking pointles 720 times in half hour just to get lock.
Marquis Dean The Last Thing You'll Ever See	Posted - 2007.04.08 00:47:00 - [16] Originally by: Elain Reverse Originally by: Marquis Dean Heh heh, poor baby girl. 1/ If you'd used the search function, you'd have found a dozen threads about NPC EWar. 2/ If you'd made a well-thought out question, instead of a single-sentence whine. 3/ I don't like answering questions more than twice. 4/ I offered reasonable solutions. ad 4) No you didnt. - There is no Torp fof version - fof do less dmg and pick random targets, what mean you dont even break tank on some elite ships or BS - Some mission kill drones prety fast - Some mission using drones give you full agro and not mentioning after you already atacked and jamed, geting drones from bay do nothing as they will just orbit you. and not everyon use missiles at all. Well what do you want me to say then? I've got no solution to fight NPCs while jammed beyond those listed. I would get around the problem with an alt, which draws agro and gets jammed, while my main kills everything. Use FoF cruise missiles. Unless you have nearly zero missile skills, you will break tanks fine. --- Originally by: CCP Sharkbait will explain when i have the time i promise
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2007.04.08 02:23:00 - [17] Originally by: Elain Reverse Originally by: Big Al Look on the brightside, you can read the forums while waiting for the 10 minute permajam to end. Oh realy ? If you read forum when jamed it dont help, you will just get 10 more minutes jaming. And no, targeting 8 rats every 20s for like 30 minutes is not fun, its not even annoing, its making me angry as its damn make me clicking pointles 720 times in half hour just to get lock. I agree with you. Jammed for 4 minutes, lock for 20 seconds, get 4 vollies off, jammed again for 3 minutes != fun.
Karma Coma The Rising Stars	Posted - 2007.04.08 09:02:00 - [18] Edited by: Karma Coma on 08/04/2007 09:00:34 ECCM and sensor boosters (for serps)? edit - i realized eccm was mentioned just putting in the sensor booster part before some one comes in to complain about the serp blockade mission.
Anri	Posted - 2007.04.12 22:18:00 - [19] ECCM I'm a noob, but when I ran into this problem I warped back to the station. Equiped an ECCM module. Warped back, turned it on - no more jamming. Seriously, if one fitting for a ship worked all the time it would be quite boring.....
Arialla	Posted - 2007.04.12 22:46:00 - [20] Originally by: Marquis Dean 3/ I don't like answering questions more than twice. So why don't you just STFU then? -- Arialla Originally by: Robocop Scammer: You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy, do ya? Murphy: Buddy, I think you're slime.

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