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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.07 23:55:00 -
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I want to know about Transport Ships.
(Blokade runners and Deep space transports)
Which ship is best? (Tell me reason)
How do you use Transport ship?
Please give me some advice.
I wish I could fly like Han Solo. :)
I love hauling.
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Imechal Ravpeim
International Multi-Player Consortium
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.08 01:13:00 -
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Most people say the Prowler is the best blockade runner...
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Brucette
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Posted - 2007.04.08 01:24:00 -
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 Originally by: Imechal Ravpeim
Most people say the Prowler is the best blockade runner...
Most people wouldn't know because they only train up Gallente industrial.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Hadean Drive Yards
Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.04.08 01:26:00 -
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the T2 bestower can have +16 warp strength, that can make most non bubble gate camps call you a hacker.
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Hadean Drive Yards
The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day |
Aakron
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.08 01:30:00 -
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t2 wcs only have 1 strength now
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Imechal Ravpeim
International Multi-Player Consortium
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.08 01:39:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
the T2 bestower can have +16 warp strength, that can make most non bubble gate camps call you a hacker.
That and the Impel only has 7 low slots.
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.08 04:20:00 -
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Best blockade runner would be prowler.
Reasons:
1) Minmatar shield resists.
2) Speed.
3) Alignment Speed.
To summarize - it's like the vagabond of blockade runners :)
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Ethereal Mercenary Services
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Posted - 2007.04.08 08:54:00 -
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naa, the crain - you would be suprised how good that ship is. . .
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.08 10:02:00 -
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Thx information.
How about Deep space transports?
And I want to know more about Blockade Runnners.
For what are they used?(Both ships)
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.08 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa
Best blockade runner would be prowler.
Reasons:
1) Minmatar shield resists.
2) Speed.
3) Alignment Speed.
To summarize - it's like the vagabond of blockade runners :)
#2 and #3 is not the case anymore actually. A prorator with 2 t1 mass rigs, 3 LH istabs and one t2 OD will be more agile *and* faster than a prowler with 2 t1 mass rigs and 2 LH istabs. And can fit unlike it a t2 MWD.
It will have a weaker tank, higher sig radius and only 2.5k m¦ vs the prowlers 4k m¦ cargo, though, so it's a bit of a tradeoff. I have an hauling alt training up right now and am currently not sure which one of these two to get.
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R1pp3r
Gallente
Evil Monkeys
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Posted - 2007.04.08 10:18:00 -
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Not to mention the prowler has an additional high slot, where as all the other only have 1. I'm not quite sure why it's that way, in my opinion they should all have 4 to 5 highs and bounus to salvage speed and tractor beam distance. :)
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TheEndofTheWorld
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Posted - 2007.04.08 10:29:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: Ryysa
Best blockade runner would be prowler.
Reasons:
1) Minmatar shield resists.
2) Speed.
3) Alignment Speed.
To summarize - it's like the vagabond of blockade runners :)
#2 and #3 is not the case anymore actually. A prorator with 2 t1 mass rigs, 3 LH istabs and one t2 OD will be more agile *and* faster than a prowler with 2 t1 mass rigs and 2 LH istabs. And can fit unlike it a t2 MWD.
It will have a weaker tank, higher sig radius and only 2.5k m¦ vs the prowlers 4k m¦ cargo, though, so it's a bit of a tradeoff. I have an hauling alt training up right now and am currently not sure which one of these two to get.
100% off-topic, but...
I just read about 10 random topics in ships and modules... all of them had aramendel and ryysa replying... New HippoKing/Dark Shikaris?
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KuKu D'Ent
Rubra Libertas Militia
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Posted - 2007.04.08 10:59:00 -
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I can fly the mimnatar and amarr ones. I initially trained up for the minimatar ones, and being a 0.0 man, it was awusom. I can haul an enitre can (when that system was in use) easily with the mastodon and for movement my prowler could hit 3km/s, great tank, and built in wcs! I often ran through many TCF and Xelas camps. However, i was not satisfied with the mastodon: the cargo was too small. a Itty mk5 could take more cargo than my masto. So i checked out which was the biggest hauler and it was the Impel (amar) so i trained that up. My impel can move over 50k of gear, thats 5mil trit from each wreck!!
I will not even consider the amar blockade runner: ITS CRAP! Too small cargo, not fast, cant tank... etc
Since then, my alts can now fly all of the transport ships but my favourite, by far, is the prowler + impel.
Prowler = speed, can tank and run, and can be setup to kill ceptors incase of solo pvp.
Impel = HUGE cargo, and with "warp to 0" speed is not required.
Cool Ness
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.08 13:17:00 -
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Thx Reply!!
I didn't notice Amarr have a best Cargo.
How about Gallente Transport?
My friend says Occator is best.
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.08 16:48:00 -
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Deep Space Transport with Cloak is will be useful?
I heard MWD with Transport will be good.
Is it mean MWD help to swim in bubble?
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.08 18:41:00 -
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Well, Aramendel, real men haul with carriers 
But yeah, imo the minmtar shield resists are important on the prowler :o
Since on all indys lows are usually filled with wcs/istabs/nanos or od's (though less)
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.08 23:25:00 -
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Carriers...yea,I know that.
I want to know more.
No one use Gallente Transport?
How often use these ships?
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Ryysa
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.09 00:08:00 -
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Look at it this way, all t2 transports are good.
Besides some little variations none are really THAT much better than the others.
They haul stuff and the blockade runners are difficult to kill when piloted by a good pilot - that's all that matters :)
I'd say majority of people use gallente transport ships because having gallente industrial 5 also unlocks the iteron mark 5.
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Aramendel
Amarr
Queens of the Stone Age
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.09 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ryysa
I'd say majority of people use gallente transport ships because having gallente industrial 5 also unlocks the iteron mark 5.
Exactly.
Which, as a sidenote, has due to 3 rig slots the highest possible cargo capacity of *any* industrial, including the t2 ones.
Paperthin tank though of cource.
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AKULA UrQuan
Caldari
STK Scientific
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.09 10:37:00 -
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Prowler - It's cargo hold is the perfect size for tending to GSC supply points in lowsec/0.0 space.
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Sidster
Minmatar
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.09 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lithalnas
the T2 bestower can have +16 warp strength, that can make most non bubble gate camps call you a hacker.
Err, what? How does it manage that? |
Joerd Toastius
Octavian Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.04.09 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Aramendel
Originally by: Ryysa
Best blockade runner would be prowler.
Reasons:
1) Minmatar shield resists.
2) Speed.
3) Alignment Speed.
To summarize - it's like the vagabond of blockade runners :)
#2 and #3 is not the case anymore actually. A prorator with 2 t1 mass rigs, 3 LH istabs and one t2 OD will be more agile *and* faster than a prowler with 2 t1 mass rigs and 2 LH istabs. And can fit unlike it a t2 MWD.
It will have a weaker tank, higher sig radius and only 2.5k m¦ vs the prowlers 4k m¦ cargo, though, so it's a bit of a tradeoff. I have an hauling alt training up right now and am currently not sure which one of these two to get.
#2 has never been true - the extra lows have always made the Prorator the fastest indy, at T2 level at least. The pre-Kali setup I had would align like an inty, too. Looks awesome, flies awesome. Horrible cargo though :P
As to the DSTs, well, I jumped into a four-man gatecamp in my untanked Impel over the weekend. I slowboated back to the gate on MWD (700m/s) and jumped out with 70% armor left. Wonderful ship.
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.12 03:46:00 -
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Thx for great adivice.
Hmmmm,I cannot decide it.
I'll train gallente or amarr Transport....
Viator or Prorator....
Are Viator and Prorator bad transport ship?
I want trade at Lowsec(include 0.0)
I don wanna ride Caldari and Min ships...sorry.
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Still Hart
Aurora Medical Systems
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Posted - 2007.04.12 04:19:00 -
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The viator is a great ship, I love it. The only reason I have it over the prowler tho is because of the Itty5. For hi-sec you can't beat the itty5. For low-sec and 0.0, the viator is a great ship and perfectly capable. It's very middle-of-the-road for the transports. Prowler has an extra high, caldari one has a killer shield tank, the amarr one has most cargo space...whatever, they all kick ass.
SH
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Darpz
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.04.12 05:44:00 -
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there all great really, and tbh its the most useful t2 train I ever did.
my logistics alt is amarr so I figured I woudl go that route.
Prorator can ether be uber agil fitted:
Improved Cloak
10mn II
3xIstabs 1xNano
2xMass rigs
or
can have can have 6 points of stab with lows with all stabs which really isn't big deal anymore since stab nerf no one bother really flying with more than 1-2 points anyway, that and bubbles are more of a problem generally
Impel/Prorator combo make a nice carrier combo as well. fit them out with t2 expanders and expander rigs and its pretty insane what you can pack into a carrier.
funny thing is i've never lost one of these ships ether, had a couple suiside attemts in empire and a couple close brushes with inty gangs in 0.0 in my prorator but they weren't able to pin me down
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.12 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Butler Hans on 12/04/2007 07:43:22
hmmm....
I read this....
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=504646
They say Blockade runner got nerfed.
Is it true?
Blockade runner is not useful "now"?
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.12 08:44:00 -
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http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=494414
I found this.....CCP want kill all blockade runners?
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JourneymanDave
devastation mining inc
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Posted - 2007.04.12 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Butler Hans
Thx for great adivice.
Hmmmm,I cannot decide it.
I'll train gallente or amarr Transport....
Viator or Prorator....
Are Viator and Prorator bad transport ship?
I want trade at Lowsec(include 0.0)
Quote:
Speaking for the Prorator, it's a fine sled. Cargo capacity is about the only drawback I find with it, but then none of the blockade runners have a lot.
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Shirow Miyazaki
Amarr
I.Z.U Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.14 20:58:00 -
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of course if t2 industrials have been nerfed, you can use an impel as a L4 mission tank, 7 lowslots with a 60 EM, 80 EXP, 62.5 KIN, 35 THERM tank, how can you say no?
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Butler Hans
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.15 01:02:00 -
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Ok...I will train for IMPEL!
But,nerf badly. Is Lowsec trading with Blockade runnner(or deep space) DEAD?
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