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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2016.12.11 13:36:00 -
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As one of those who destroyed that Keepstar and ended those lives... what the actual **** is wrong with you? Don't take the responsibility for choices made away from the aggressors, defenders, victims and instigators in this war, just to make a cheap political point.
Using the deaths of these people so cheaply, transparently and outright dishonestly? Spirits below. |

Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2016.12.11 14:23:51 -
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So they should start sending their forces into warzones occupied by capsuleers who very much tends to shoot first and don't bother asking questions about it later.
There's a reason emergency responders wait until situations have been cleared before moving in. When you do it before the danger has been mapped out and secured, you become part of the problem. More people to be saved, requiring more resources diverted and everyone you could have aided now needs someone else to do it because you were an idiot that moved in too soon.
The amount of different sides involved in this war, not even counting all the enthusiastic third parties ensures there is no way to safeguard any such aid workers and expecting them to throw their lives away like that is ridiculous.
However much I distrust the SSoE, not throwing their ships and crews into a meatgrinder until it's been confirmed switched off is hardly something they can be blamed for. If you have an agenda against them, find real weapons against them instead of using the loss of these lives in such a malicious manner. |

Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2016.12.11 21:40:40 -
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Let's not try and justify what some of us do by trying to equivocate highsec mining with what may be an unprecedented act of massively parallel - as opposed to serial - killing. There's certainly something to the notion that everyone somewhat contributes to the system, but the responsibility for the lives lost in M-O starts and ends with those of us making the choice to launch our cruise missiles at the Keepstar.
It's far from the gravest sin performed in New Eden, even that day alone, but trying to reduce the responsibility by spreading it thinly across everyone who ever contributed to the capsuleer economy through less violent acts is disingenuous.
No miner, explorer or whatever else had anything to do with me contributing to turning however many millions of lives into a brief yet beautiful star. Nor are they responsible for whatever else is done out on the frontiers. The buck will always stop with you. |

Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2016.12.11 22:34:56 -
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I'd lay out the critical details that makes up the vast gulf of difference between the two of us, and perhaps make yet another futile attempt to detail nuances you seem to prefer to ignore, but since I've never been in your pants I don't think the IGS is a suitable location for personal interludes. They probably belong in that other thread, for that matter. Let's keep this one on topic. |

Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2016.12.14 00:53:32 -
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Don't think anyone cried over these deaths either. My issue is when that sort of loss of life is used for cheap political agendas. I won't weep for people making their own choices, but I will sneer in disgust when they're used so maliciously. |

Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2016.12.14 13:49:41 -
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There's nothing inherently negative about destruction. Without destruction, all you have is stagnation. You'll have festering problems instead of room for rebuilding something better. Without the bloodshed of war from one side, another side would assuredly tear you down for their own ends. Without aggression towards tyrants, they would rule New Eden.
The tricky bit is leaving enough room for creation, building, peace and safekeeping to offset it all.
While balance is mostly spoken of in spiritual matters among my kind, that principle is just as important for the rest of New Eden. Without destruction, there is no creation. Stars die for worlds to live. Without violence and bloodshed to protect it, peace exists only for the conquerors and warlords in the end.
Strike the balance, rather than living on the edges of the curve. Neither of the extremes can even see morally or ethically defensible standpoints from where they are. |
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