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Vanadar	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:11:00 - [1] Abaddon Citadel Torpedo Launcher I [15xRift Torpedo I] Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Rigs : Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router I \ 21875 shield, 29.17/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/39/59 10625 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/51/43/39 7968.75 cap, +20.83/s, -0.0/s 138.0 m/s
Snikkt Time Cube Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:19:00 - [2] Are you serious? ------------------- My opinions (ie, all of my posting here) are not my corporations. Nor should it be taken as such.
Ren Tales Null Horizon Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:19:00 - [3] Edited by: Ren Tales on 09/04/2007 02:15:29 Funny as that is... thats only 1800-2100 alpha. A munnin can outdo that, much less a bs. ----
Caldari Online	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:20:00 - [4] Originally by: Vanadar Abaddon Citadel Torpedo Launcher I [15xRift Torpedo I] Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Large Shield Extender II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Rigs : Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router I \ 21875 shield, 29.17/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/39/59 10625 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/51/43/39 7968.75 cap, +20.83/s, -0.0/s 138.0 m/s its worthless without a siege mod. you would get more alpha from tachs
Snikkt Time Cube Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:21:00 - [5] Originally by: Ren Tales Edited by: Ren Tales on 09/04/2007 02:15:29 Funny as that is... thats only 1800-2100 alpha. A munnin can outdo that, much less a bs. Still pretty damn impressive. I wonder if it's possible to squeeze a siege blaster onto an Hyperion, or a Mega. ------------------- My opinions (ie, all of my posting here) are not my corporations. Nor should it be taken as such.
LeMoose The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:21:00 - [6] not to mention u cant hit ****
Ren Tales Null Horizon Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2007.04.09 02:39:00 - [7] the capitol sized module can be any close range turret. I personally want to see a 6x 2500mm repeating artilary autocannon sticking off the side of an abaddon hull. ----
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2007.04.09 03:33:00 - [8] can't you have a apoc do the same thing?
Acinonyx Jubatus International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.04.09 04:11:00 - [9] Not a great alpha/damage setup, but if it's done it can startle anyone that witnesses it.
Mogrin	Posted - 2007.04.09 04:33:00 - [10] yeah or normal torpedos on a raven _______________ Rokh vs. Hyperion

Tista	Posted - 2007.04.09 04:35:00 - [11] Originally by: Mogrin yeah or normal torpedos on a raven my torps on my raven have a base damage of 1500 :) x 6 = oh the love! Originally by: inSpirAcy Don't worry, it's the bullying culture EVE attracts. You don't actually have to make a point if you get enough people to laugh with you.
Maeltstome Minmatar Eve Defence Force Pure.	Posted - 2007.04.09 04:49:00 - [12] Against POS with 0% res to my damage type, 6mil in missiles and 3 T2 BCS's i can get around 770-800 damage on a torp raven. This is the third thread i've seen you post about in 5 minutes, and none of them have been sensible yet
Copine Callmeknau The Splinter Syndicate SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 05:36:00 - [13] Maelstrom, as many damage rigs and gyro's you can fit, 5% damage implant, 5% Large proj implant, Quake L ----- Originally by: Uncle Chop Chop Harden the **** up
Karma Coma The Rising Stars	Posted - 2007.04.09 07:12:00 - [14] Edited by: Karma Coma on 09/04/2007 07:09:03 Im pretty sure a Machariel would be able to do more alpha due to its tracking bonus? edit taking into account chance of hitting etc..
Arakidias	Posted - 2007.04.09 07:53:00 - [15] Even my Drake with 7x scourges can out-alpha that. 7x300 on 0% resists = 2100.
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.09 08:51:00 - [16] Hmm i think i know whos alt is that, and it wasnt nice mate. Now to sort it, this is example setup of what u can do with rcu rigs + t2 rcu, let me post another setup to explain it (abaddon was only idea). Maelstrom Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Capital Shield Booster I Shield Boost Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Rigs : Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router I \ 8000 shield, 8.0/s, E/T/K/Ex=66/73/80/71 9375 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/35/25/10 7500.0 cap, +14.7/s, -225.2/s 144.0 m/s 0.0 DPS 11k hp every 10 seconds for 3 cycles, just an example. You find usefull setups. --- "You are receiving this notice in regard to the post below which appeared in our forum on 06/04/2007 22:16:31. Personal attacks (commonly referred to as flames) are not permitted on the forum."
Atius Tirawa Minmatar Ethereal Mercenary Services	Posted - 2007.04.09 09:21:00 - [17] Ok, maby this is a joke post - but since there are a few people who actually took it seriously - for the record: The Abbadon does have the highest Alpha in the game for a none cap ship (who don't have high alphas, but its a matter of experience). The Tach Abbadon, with 3 damage mods, 2 sensor boosters and a tracking comp (the rest is up to you) will melt anything. . .I belive it hits for something upwards of 5500 or so alpha and 700 or so DPS. Its short, but it can but down the pain fast. . .reason? 8 guns, +5% damage per level. The Maelstorm would seem to have a higher alpha and dps because its minmatar (traditionally famous for high alpha and it fits 8 1400s without any difficulty - but the BB RoF bonus and the shield tanking bonus added with the craptastic DPS of projectile wepons means the alpha is quite low, closer to 4k and its dps is pathetic 350 or so. . . If someone has the numbers I'm sure its easy to calculate - but I'm lazy.
Khan Soriano Stercus Accidit.	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:06:00 - [18] Abaddon Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tracking Computer II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Reactor Control Unit II Tracking Enhancer II Rigs : Energy Collision Accelerator I \ Energy Collision Accelerator I \ Empty Slot \ Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II 3314 shield, 3.9/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/39/59 10625 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/51/43/39 7650.0 cap, +19.99/s, -90.021/s 138.0 m/s With 5% all dmg and 5% large energy dmg this baby does 4187 alpha on 0% res at 154km range when using Aurora but if you switch to Gleam it becomes a real monster dishing out 7328 alpha & 1251 dps on 0% res. Numbers are from QuickFit with my current skills so real values could be a little different but I didnt use any faction mods, so 8k is probably within reach
Sidster Minmatar Brutor tribe	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:19:00 - [19] Edited by: Sidster on 09/04/2007 11:17:46 My Maelstrom gets an alpha of about 2150 with only 7 1400 IIs loaded with Tremor (about 4600 with Quake) and large arty spec 2. The Citadel Torps do - iirc - 1800 damage when they hit properly (i.e. on a painted-to-hell battleship or capital). Maelstrom wins, still with plenty of room for improvement :P Still, a fun idea :)
Hank Showbo Neyi Industries	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:33:00 - [20] Originally by: Atius Tirawa Ok, maby this is a joke post - but since there are a few people who actually took it seriously - for the record: The Abbadon does have the highest Alpha in the game for a none cap ship (who don't have high alphas, but its a matter of experience). The Tach Abbadon, with 3 damage mods, 2 sensor boosters and a tracking comp (the rest is up to you) will melt anything. . .I belive it hits for something upwards of 5500 or so alpha and 700 or so DPS. Its short, but it can but down the pain fast. . .reason? 8 guns, +5% damage per level. The Maelstorm would seem to have a higher alpha and dps because its minmatar (traditionally famous for high alpha and it fits 8 1400s without any difficulty - but the BB RoF bonus and the shield tanking bonus added with the craptastic DPS of projectile wepons means the alpha is quite low, closer to 4k and its dps is pathetic 350 or so. . . If someone has the numbers I'm sure its easy to calculate - but I'm lazy. Maelstrom = Biggest Alpha-Strike/Low DPS Abaddon = Good Alpha/Good DPS

Morreia The Celestial Element	Posted - 2007.04.09 11:36:00 - [21] Edited by: Morreia on 09/04/2007 11:37:37 Edited by: Morreia on 09/04/2007 11:33:44 Originally by: Khan Soriano Abaddon Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tracking Computer II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Reactor Control Unit II Tracking Enhancer II Rigs : Energy Collision Accelerator I \ Energy Collision Accelerator I \ Empty Slot \ Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II 3314 shield, 3.9/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/39/59 10625 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/51/43/39 7650.0 cap, +19.99/s, -90.021/s 138.0 m/s With 5% all dmg and 5% large energy dmg this baby does 4187 alpha on 0% res at 154km range when using Aurora but if you switch to Gleam it becomes a real monster dishing out 7328 alpha & 1251 dps on 0% res. Numbers are from QuickFit with my current skills so real values could be a little different but I didnt use any faction mods, so 8k is probably within reach With a Mael and similar setup (8 of the biggest guns, 3 damage mods, no faction and 2 5% implants) You can get a possible alpha of 8550 damage . Oh yea and thats with no wreckings so if you get lucky you have the power to do over 10k alpha. You do unfourtunally only get half the dps and I think this is quite a big sacrafice considering the relativly small increase in alpha (boost arty alpha). EDIT: on 0% resist you actually get 920 dps so many things are ok as they are .
Sedai Hara Caldari The Forsakened Companions	Posted - 2007.04.09 12:36:00 - [22] FYI The "ye old torp/nano raven" has the highest alpha, if you do it right get a raven fit rage torps, get a MWD. get nanos/istabs/overdrives. fit as many BCU II and missile dmg roigs as possible. Now start of att your maximum torp hit range, hit MWD. aproach the already tackled target, get the same speed as the torps. Fire while flying. When you reach the target "BOOM!" you get a pretty nice alpha strike, heard stories of insta-popped BSes, but thats just stories i suppose.. STILL! some1 said he/she did 1500dmgx6. x that a few more times and you get THAT alpha strike :P Still it requires some pilot skills and practise. Originally by: Tuxford Speed is fun and all but this is getting silly, yes we are addressing it, yes I have a blog coming about it. 2007-02-05 end of the nano-era
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:22:00 - [23] Not stories... remember.. much lower base HP in the past. If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Ral Ulgur Helion Production Labs	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:36:00 - [24] I must admid I haven¦t checked, but I¦m pretty sure that cap shield booster doesn¦t repair your armor. You¦d probably want your max shield exeed your boost amount in one cycle by at least a small margin. Originally by: Valandril Hmm i think i know whos alt is that, and it wasnt nice mate. Now to sort it, this is example setup of what u can do with rcu rigs + t2 rcu, let me post another setup to explain it (abaddon was only idea). Maelstrom Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Capital Shield Booster I Shield Boost Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Rigs : Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router I \ 8000 shield, 8.0/s, E/T/K/Ex=66/73/80/71 9375 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/35/25/10 7500.0 cap, +14.7/s, -225.2/s 144.0 m/s 0.0 DPS 11k hp every 10 seconds for 3 cycles, just an example. You find usefull setups.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar Guardians of the Dawn Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.04.09 15:50:00 - [25] Originally by: Ral Ulgur I must admid I haven¦t checked, but I¦m pretty sure that cap shield booster doesn¦t repair your armor. You¦d probably want your max shield exeed your boost amount in one cycle by at least a small margin. Originally by: Valandril Hmm i think i know whos alt is that, and it wasnt nice mate. Now to sort it, this is example setup of what u can do with rcu rigs + t2 rcu, let me post another setup to explain it (abaddon was only idea). Maelstrom Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Capital Shield Booster I Shield Boost Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Rigs : Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router I \ 8000 shield, 8.0/s, E/T/K/Ex=66/73/80/71 9375 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/35/25/10 7500.0 cap, +14.7/s, -225.2/s 144.0 m/s 0.0 DPS 11k hp every 10 seconds for 3 cycles, just an example. You find usefull setups. with max skills and shield Hp implant and in a gang you can reach the 11K. And this is the most insane tank !@#!#@#!2 If brute force doesn't solve your problem... you are not using enough
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.09 16:28:00 - [26] And its only example how u can margine game with rigs ^.^ --- "You are receiving this notice in regard to the post below which appeared in our forum on 06/04/2007 22:16:31. Personal attacks (commonly referred to as flames) are not permitted on the forum."
lofty29 Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.09 16:34:00 - [27] God damn. I would **** myself if I got rifted by an abaddon ---
Vincent Almasy Gallente The Underground	Posted - 2007.04.09 16:35:00 - [28] Originally by: Kagura Nikon Originally by: Ral Ulgur I must admid I haven¦t checked, but I¦m pretty sure that cap shield booster doesn¦t repair your armor. You¦d probably want your max shield exeed your boost amount in one cycle by at least a small margin. Originally by: Valandril Hmm i think i know whos alt is that, and it wasnt nice mate. Now to sort it, this is example setup of what u can do with rcu rigs + t2 rcu, let me post another setup to explain it (abaddon was only idea). Maelstrom Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Turret Slot / Launcher Slot Capital Shield Booster I Shield Boost Amplifier II Heat Dissipation Field II Ballistic Deflection Field II Photon Scattering Field II Invulnerability Field II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Rigs : Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router II \ Ancillary Current Router I \ 8000 shield, 8.0/s, E/T/K/Ex=66/73/80/71 9375 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/35/25/10 7500.0 cap, +14.7/s, -225.2/s 144.0 m/s 0.0 DPS 11k hp every 10 seconds for 3 cycles, just an example. You find usefull setups. with max skills and shield Hp implant and in a gang you can reach the 11K. And this is the most insane tank !@#!#@#!2 Now remove a balistics's field and put in a heavy injector, best named and you can recover enough cap for another boost in a little over 3 injections. boosting yourself atleast one more boost.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.04.09 16:47:00 - [29] Originally by: Khan Soriano Abaddon Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tachyon Beam Laser II [1xGleam L] Tracking Computer II Heavy Capacitor Booster II Sensor Booster II Sensor Booster II Reactor Control Unit II Reactor Control Unit II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Heat Sink II Reactor Control Unit II Tracking Enhancer II Rigs : Energy Collision Accelerator I \ Energy Collision Accelerator I \ Empty Slot \ Ogre II Ogre II Ogre II 3314 shield, 3.9/s, E/T/K/Ex=0/19/39/59 10625 armor, E/T/K/Ex=69/51/43/39 7650.0 cap, +19.99/s, -90.021/s 138.0 m/s With 5% all dmg and 5% large energy dmg this baby does 4187 alpha on 0% res at 154km range when using Aurora but if you switch to Gleam it becomes a real monster dishing out 7328 alpha & 1251 dps on 0% res. Numbers are from QuickFit with my current skills so real values could be a little different but I didnt use any faction mods, so 8k is probably within reach Holy crap - 3 x RCU II. Powergrid rigs are your freind, and you have 3 extra slots for relay/tracking enhancer etc -- Billion Isk Mission
Khan Soriano Stercus Accidit.	Posted - 2007.04.10 07:42:00 - [30] Originally by: Lord WarATron Holy crap - 3 x RCU II. Powergrid rigs are your freind, and you have 3 extra slots for relay/tracking enhancer etc Point of this exercise was to get high alpha while maintaining semi-usable fit. The way you want it would mean, less alpha/dps but more range. I figure 154km is enough for fleet, not every ship is a rokh you know



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