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James 315 Yet Another CAOD-Inspired 1-Man Alt Corp	Posted - 2007.04.09 19:55:00 - [1] Every major patch contains a nerf to something. Sometimes major, sometimes minor. Sometimes it's something was overpowered for a long time (wcs), sometimes something just recently overpowered (inertia stabs). Occasionally the nerf is somewhat light (nos nerf), and sometimes it's overwhelming (ECM). What do you think will probably be the next nerf? What do you think SHOULD be nerfed in the next major patch?
Maeltstome Minmatar Eve Defence Force Pure.	Posted - 2007.04.09 19:59:00 - [2] The forums need to be nerfed, they get things changed too often.
Jei'son Bladesmith Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium	Posted - 2007.04.09 20:05:00 - [3] NERF SHUTTLES! BOOST JETCANS! NERF SHUTTLES! BOOST JETCANS! NERF SHUTTLES! BOOST JETCANS! NERF SHUTTLES! BOOST JETCANS! NERF SHUTTLES! BOOST JETCANS! NERF SHUTTLES! BOOST JETCANS! *☼☼☼ Life's a *, then you get podded ☼☼☼*
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.04.09 20:08:00 - [4] nos needs a fix Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
Antares Andaris	Posted - 2007.04.09 20:13:00 - [5] Edited by: Antares Andaris on 09/04/2007 20:09:33 Amarr needs to be nerfed.... that they suck too much and therefore can be removed from the game.
Aggressive Salesman Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:10:00 - [6] Gallente needs to be nerfed down a bit. Starting with the Eos and capitals would be a good start.
Horus Dark	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:13:00 - [7] Its called balancing. And its a ongoing process. Next is going to be nos or amarr i gues. I hope amarr :(
Laboratus Gallente BGG Alektorophobia	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:13:00 - [8] Warp distruptors Interceptors Capasitors Blobs ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Valandril Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:16:00 - [9] Nothing should be nerfed now, only thing we could use is counter for nos (that smartbomb idea is nice). But i know that whiners will complain cry till they nerf something... --- Alexandra Frigaro > These RISE guys have a better spawn rate than angels...
Horus Dark	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:19:00 - [10] Quote: Warp distruptors Interceptors Capasitors Blobs hahaha i smell a carebear. wtf is wrong with disrupters and intys.

Tiddlywink	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:20:00 - [11] My guess? Passive shield tanking. On a Drake you get a better tank than a raven, use no cap, and spend less money.
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 1 Shot 1 Kill	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:28:00 - [12] Originally by: Tiddlywink My guess? Passive shield tanking. On a Drake you get a better tank than a raven, use no cap, and spend less money. Just increase the base recharge time of all shields by 30% and you'll be back at pre-kali levels ;) Originally by: Mastin Dragonfly Radio is essential for Amarr, to call the much needed backup...
Zalathar Minmatar Biometaloid INC	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:28:00 - [13] Originally by: Tiddlywink My guess? Passive shield tanking. On a Drake you get a better tank than a raven, use no cap, and spend less money. Amen to that. ~~~~~~ sig currently being remastered (it was too large) ~~~~~~
Hugh Ruka Caldari	Posted - 2007.04.10 08:36:00 - [14] ECM, last nerf was not enough ... Originally by: JP Beauregard The experience with Exodus playtesting has scarred me for life. Those were bug-reports, not feature requests, you numbskulls....
Jan Riksma Appetite 4 Destruction	Posted - 2007.04.10 09:08:00 - [15] Originally by: Zalathar Originally by: Tiddlywink My guess? Passive shield tanking. On a Drake you get a better tank than a raven, use no cap, and spend less money. Amen to that. A drake has use all it med slot, low slot and rig slots to create a ubder passive tank. A verry good passive tanked drake cost more then a t2 BS and the damage output sucks big time a frig will hit harder and it has a sig radius of a BS. Its a clear case of tank or gank nothing wrong with this ship. Cheers, Jan Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.04.10 09:32:00 - [16] Originally by: Jan Riksma Originally by: Zalathar Originally by: Tiddlywink My guess? Passive shield tanking. On a Drake you get a better tank than a raven, use no cap, and spend less money. Amen to that. A drake has use all it med slot, low slot and rig slots to create a ubder passive tank. A verry good passive tanked drake cost more then a t2 BS and the damage output sucks big time a frig will hit harder and it has a sig radius of a BS. Its a clear case of tank or gank nothing wrong with this ship. Cheers, Jan QFT- I get a sick-ass tank out of my drake, but to do it I need to use all 6 mids, all 4 lows, and all 3 rig slots. I've found that if I use much less than that (plop in a damage mod so that i can do more than like 230 dps with t2 missiles) it brings down the tank, especially if one of the SPRIIs is taken out :shock: and taking out a PDUII causes fitting problems. I suppose you might take out a PDU II a LSE II and replace it with BCUII + disruptor for pvp, but... well, that's not nearly as great a ship. Like other ships, with the drake you have three options: Tackle DPS Tank Choose two and leave the third, or choose the fourth option: "TANK!!!!!" and leave the other two :) Please don't nerf shield tanks overall :) I would like to point out that the Myrmidon runs a better passive tank than the drake... ... ... wait for it... ... ... ... ... While using NOS and/or guns... ... ... Oh, right, and 5x bonused heavy drones. Nah, that's not even remotely unbalanced. Back on topic: My next guess (or at least my hope) is that they nerf Nos a little - It needs some penalty ASIDE from that "you can't use this slot for a different module", but retain their usefulness against small ships. I'd go further, but there's a lot of threads on the subject already. I also REALLY hope that they fix Amarr. They're really not good for very much atm. Even WITHOUT being constantly nos'd my abaddon seems so much worse than other battleships :( Lasers are... really, just not good. I personally don't think that omnitanking is a problem - EM tends to be my LOWEST resist on my Abaddon, and tends to be highest on my drake. And the difference is no more than like +/- 10%, i.e., the difference between my other resists :P I think that the problems are twofold: a) high cap use, so that most combat ships only get one combat bonus, whereas the other bonus slot is 'wasted' by simply enabling the ship to run its guns. Hybrids and projectiles are sometimes fitted on non-racial ships because they're more effective in that situation - but I've only seen this done once or twice with lasers, and both times it's simply been that lasers don't use any ammo for ratting or missioning :( b) They are effective in mid-range combat (30ish km) which.. well, never occurs, and amarran's don't have the means to get into that range (or stay there) __________________________________ <-- Behold, the eve-o forums
Scilent Enigma Minmatar Vae Victis Inc	Posted - 2007.04.10 09:38:00 - [17] The Holy CCP Nerfbat needs a serious nerf... it's way too overpowerd imo..
WYLEE C0Y0TE Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.04.10 09:57:00 - [18] People that start stupid a-- threads....... Originally by: Kaylee Zara Try it out yourself and see what you think rather than listening to what the sheep army thinks. Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif If it's personal, it's because of you.
jizzmonkey	Posted - 2007.04.10 09:58:00 - [19] Edited by: **monkey on 10/04/2007 09:57:47 personally, i dont like the 'nothings been nerfed for a while, get the stick out' way of game communities, i mean stabs (as in i stabs and warp core) both needed a nerf, both were used way too much, but its done now. a few things need equaling out - amarrs chronic cap use, minmitars bad damage, but i dont even think nos needs nrfing, people just need to be smart, dont want to get nossed? faction scrambles dont cost much (what 50m for a 26km?) or use an injector, granted against a nos domi, my tempest has a few troubles, but with an injector i can still fight and tank. so nothing needs nerfing, thanks :) ps maybe remote DDs, is a bit silly - maybe they stay in space for like an hour after one? but thats not for me to say good day pps - to the people who say about passive shield (i dont use it at all, but have faught against it) yes u can get mad tanks, but with terrible damage and no scrambler/ webber etc. so just run, or tank it while corpies come to batter him. scorps have always been capable of huge tanks...but it would make them useless, just wait for people to get bored, with being boring
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.04.10 10:13:00 - [20] You are late _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Venkhar Krard	Posted - 2007.04.10 10:40:00 - [21] Edited by: Venkhar Krard on 10/04/2007 10:40:01 NOS Passive recharge rigs Eos Myrmidon DDD
amarrian king	Posted - 2007.04.10 19:32:00 - [22] Originally by: Venkhar Krard Edited by: Venkhar Krard on 10/04/2007 10:40:01 NOS Passive recharge rigs Eos Myrmidon DDD i guess cap boosters and nos dnt counter nos. i assume that the heavy drones on the mrym cant be webbed and killed. all rigs need a stacking penalty period. the ddd needs to be fired in system. not like its easy to kill a titan so y have it hide. dnt know the prob with the eos so i think its fine as is.
Ralara Caldari Lilandri Foundation	Posted - 2007.04.10 19:35:00 - [23] The fact that I dont have a titan needs to be nerfed. I'm a corp thief. And remember, I only do it because I like your robot.
Emolayshun	Posted - 2007.04.10 19:37:00 - [24] I think we will see some changes to the way DD and Titans work. Probably greater limitations for remove DDing and some kind of cap/recharge rate for titans so they can't jump in, DD, recharge their cap in seconds and jump out.
Taran Summers The Merovingians	Posted - 2007.04.10 20:26:00 - [25] Stacking penalty for cargo expanders! Nerf cargo! Wooooooot! Freight is for freighters! :Puts down bottle of scotch:
Smelt Down	Posted - 2007.04.10 20:35:00 - [26] Sensor damps: Just as strong as prenerf ECM. Strong without bonuses, completely overpowered on ships with a bonus to it. Titans: There have been enough threads on them to go into to much detail. DDD and warp jammer invulnerability needs to be changed.
Harlequinn Caldari Confederation of Red Moon Red Moon Federation	Posted - 2007.04.10 20:42:00 - [27] Edited by: Harlequinn on 10/04/2007 20:40:19 Originally by: Tiddlywink My guess? Passive shield tanking. On a Drake you get a better tank than a raven, use no cap, and spend less money. I'd have to agree with this. I think it will be a change made to have shield recharge times have a more constant rate of hp regen/time and not be a ratio of total hp/time. Extenders will then only give a buffer as I assume they were intended unlike now where they effectivly give both a buffer and a shield boost. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
Humpalot	Posted - 2007.04.10 20:43:00 - [28] Originally by: amarrian king i guess cap boosters and nos dnt counter nos. i assume that the heavy drones on the mrym cant be webbed and killed. all rigs need a stacking penalty period. the ddd needs to be fired in system. not like its easy to kill a titan so y have it hide. dnt know the prob with the eos so i think its fine as is. I think it is that the Myrm doesn't have to make the same tradeoffs other ships do to achieve results (tank vs. gank). Cap boosters can counter NOS to an extent but you can run out of those fast. Nos can counter Nos but few ships can fit a full rack of Nos high and still manage a good offense. More Nos > 1 Nos. The Eos is simply too powerful when compared to other Fleet Command ships. Personally I would be happy to see other Fleet Commands buffed rather than the Eos nerfed but honestly the other Fleet Commands work as intended for their role so more likely the Eos would be balanced down a bit (the Damnation's split weapon layout and thus largely bogus damage bonuses rather stinks but then it has a stellar tank and in a Fleet Support role that is probably a fair tradeoff).
Lakotnik The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.10 21:52:00 - [29] Edited by: Lakotnik on 10/04/2007 21:49:55 MY ideas: Some nos balance is needed. Counter, make last 20%? not nossable and last 10%? not even neutable, NOS slots, stacking penalty ? ECM works fine now, i would nerf other EW (TD especially) a bit more so it has same effect on specialised ships but lower on others. (sensor booster kind of works as a counter vs damp, tracking comp doesnt come even near disrupting power). Suggestion - make stacking more severe (1st 100%, 2nd 55%, 3rd 20%, then close to 0) instead of directly nerfing modules (well, they could do with a slight reduction too. SLIGHT != 50% ) Some t2 ammo needs to be fixed - I mean just amarr ammo - make production cost lower so we get like 2 times more shots per same isks (considering ammo gets blowned up more often than rest it seems logical), or make crystals more sturdy. Change supercapitals - increase their vulnerability to tackle. And remove remote DD. After DD titan should be immobile for a couple of minutes, then he can move/cyno/warp. EDIT: if needed, even increase its tank. With blob reduction that shouldnt be problematic - move to the next point. Nerf blobs somehow. There were some suggestions, i posted one myself that got totally ignored (was too confusing) -- Smile, tomorrow will be worse.
Red Crown Kudzu Collective	Posted - 2007.04.10 22:30:00 - [30] In no particular order, Nos, Titans, Passive Shield tanking. My bud's Myrmidon tanks something like 500DPS and he has few to no shield skills. Drakes are crazy scary. Has anyone tried BS yet? Refers to a thread in which it was proven that a Titan can go from 0 to 100% cap in under 15 seconds with officer modules and Cap rigs. (Which is possible.) [Not to mention that the BoB / D2 titans can Jump in, DD, and Jump out in under 2 minutes, even under 1.] Who cares if you have no tank? You don't need one if your already gone. "EVE is the worst MMORPG. Except for all the other ones." [KUDZU] = Coalition.

xenodia Gallente RONA Corporation RONA Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.10 22:38:00 - [31] Originally by: Jan Riksma Originally by: Zalathar Originally by: Tiddlywink My guess? Passive shield tanking. On a Drake you get a better tank than a raven, use no cap, and spend less money. Amen to that. A drake has use all it med slot, low slot and rig slots to create a ubder passive tank. A verry good passive tanked drake cost more then a t2 BS and the damage output sucks big time a frig will hit harder and it has a sig radius of a BS. Its a clear case of tank or gank nothing wrong with this ship. Cheers, Jan Yeah, I like my passive tank myrmidon way more... almost as strong a tank and 3x the dps. http://www.eve-ronacorp.com RONA Corp is Recruiting
Leonardo Sabrioski Caldari Veritas Praetorian Enterprises	Posted - 2007.04.10 23:11:00 - [32] Lets nerf every race and have everyone follow the same skill tree: Clantemintarr Cla - Caldari ant - Gallente mint - Minmitar Arr - Amarr Every ship will have the same stats, be equiped with the same weapons and the same defences. Also make sure that ships cannot be on the same grid or else both will blow up (eliminating blobs) Eliminate EW cause it makes people feel bad about themselves (warp disruptors & ECM) Give every person unlimited iskies (n00bs that can't make money) Give everyone their own private 0.0 system with no jump gates so no one can attack them. This will make everyone happy ----------------------------------------------
Gort Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.04.11 21:18:00 - [33] Nerf: 1) Local 2) Alts 3) DD 4) POS warfare Low-tech sig: "When in doubt, empty the magazine."
Karyuudo Tydraad Caldari Whiskey Pete's Drycleaning Services	Posted - 2007.04.11 21:26:00 - [34] Nerf the Myrmidon! >=\|
NeverL Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2007.04.11 22:06:00 - [35] nerf the ibis they are too cheap ----------------- My dream is to become the best forum warrior there is. Even better then Molle Sir.
arbalesttom	Posted - 2007.05.13 15:35:00 - [36] Originally by: xenodia Originally by: Jan Riksma Originally by: Zalathar Originally by: Tiddlywink My guess? Passive shield tanking. On a Drake you get a better tank than a raven, use no cap, and spend less money. Amen to that. A drake has use all it med slot, low slot and rig slots to create a ubder passive tank. A verry good passive tanked drake cost more then a t2 BS and the damage output sucks big time a frig will hit harder and it has a sig radius of a BS. Its a clear case of tank or gank nothing wrong with this ship. Cheers, Jan Yeah, I like my passive tank myrmidon way more... almost as strong a tank and 3x the dps. IF they going to nerf the passive tank on a drake, im going to quit eve, no (&$%ing joke. ALL the drake is good in, if you invest in it, is TANK. It has NO DPS, BAD SPEED, its WORSE FOR PVP, and ALL ITS GOOD IN IT TANKING. Why, omg, why? I really hope ccp is making a joke...in fact they gonna lose a dedicated eve player if they continue to nerf everthing i love...DRAKE 4 EVER!
Riddick Valer	Posted - 2007.05.13 16:17:00 - [37] Make Nos effected by sig radius. Each size nos has a different sig radius, and if aimed at a smaller one, it is only % effective. Make BS have to fit small nos to deal with frigs, instead of one-size-fits all.
hobowithin	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:03:00 - [38] Quote: What will/should be nerfed next? amarr
LUH 3471	Posted - 2007.05.13 17:46:00 - [39] Originally by: hobowithin Quote: What will/should be nerfed next? amarr i second this nerf amarr
Kye Kenshin coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.05.13 18:37:00 - [40] Titans obviously and I forsee Amarr getting love! Nerfing is good. The game always needs constant balancing plus it makes pvp fresh everytime something changes, which is a good thing. To all those who are against nerfing you shouldn't be so ignorant of how unbalanced the game use to be..

TehPro	Posted - 2007.05.13 18:42:00 - [41] Quote: IF they going to nerf the passive tank on a drake, im going to quit eve, no (&$%ing joke. ALL the drake is good in, if you invest in it, is TANK. It has NO DPS, BAD SPEED, its WORSE FOR PVP, and ALL ITS GOOD IN IT TANKING. Why, omg, why? I really hope ccp is making a joke...in fact they gonna lose a dedicated eve player if they continue to nerf everthing i love...DRAKE 4 EVER! Can i have your stuff? please?
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2007.05.13 18:45:00 - [42] Originally by: arbalesttom IF they going to nerf the passive tank on a drake, im going to quit eve, no (&$%ing joke. ALL the drake is good in, if you invest in it, is TANK. It has NO DPS, BAD SPEED, its WORSE FOR PVP, and ALL ITS GOOD IN IT TANKING. Why, omg, why? I really hope ccp is making a joke...in fact they gonna lose a dedicated eve player if they continue to nerf everthing i love...DRAKE 4 EVER! I laughed so hard at this. Thank you. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune
takaonigirl02	Posted - 2007.05.13 18:45:00 - [43] Who's the one that said inty's need to be nerfed? The poor things already have enough restrictions. Its your own fault if you get ownt by a crow while testing out your fancy new brutix.
Erim Solfara Amarr Tarlos INC	Posted - 2007.05.13 18:56:00 - [44] Originally by: Valandril Nothing should be nerfed now, only thing we could use is counter for nos (that smartbomb idea is nice). Linkage? New ship class
God forbid Amarr Turbulent	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:06:00 - [45] I Hope it will be Nos.. It is really ruining the game and it would help amarr alot if Nos's would be changed alittle bit.. Quote: "Dont Be too Cool for your Mam"
Dragon Lord Caldari research inc	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:11:00 - [46] Nos and neuts need a good nerf and proberbly sensor damps so there in line with ecm again. Passive tanks only need a nerf if u can dish out good dmg and super passive tank, which the cara and the drake cant do. There is no way u can super passive tank and still dish out uber dmg. Drone ships on the other hand can use all there slots for tank and nos and still dish good dmg. No that needs a nerf. It should be one or the other, both is overpowered.
Max Hardcase Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.05.13 19:32:00 - [47] I predict either NOS or RSD.
Kelbryn Armoured Assassins	Posted - 2007.05.13 22:59:00 - [48] Originally by: Smelt Down Sensor damps: Just as strong as prenerf ECM. Strong without bonuses, completely overpowered on ships with a bonus to it. I like Sensor damps like they are but ECM should be just as strong pre nerf ON ECM SPEC SHIPS ie. Falcon, Rook, Scorp (useless BS now! cept for bait)
Kol Uk'ai	Posted - 2007.05.14 00:27:00 - [49] Originally by: Leonardo Sabrioski Edited by: Leonardo Sabrioski on 11/04/2007 21:22:14 Lets nerf every race and have everyone follow the same skill tree: Clantemintarr Cla - Caldari ant - Gallente mint - Minmitar Arr - Amarr Every ship will have the same stats, be equiped with the same weapons and the same defences. Also make sure that ships cannot be on the same grid or else both will blow up (eliminating blobs) Eliminate EW cause it makes people feel bad about themselves (warp disruptors & ECM) Give every person unlimited iskies (n00bs that can't make money) Give everyone their own private 0.0 system with no jump gates so no one can attack them. This will make everyone happy inshort: DONT NERF A SINGLE HTING!!>!>!!?!?!!11111!!!!ELEVENTYELEVEN Here's even a better idea. Lets leave everything the way it is. Don't balance a single thing ever again. Dev's will only work on adding content. If they add content and it's broken/not balanced we'll just leave it -because balancing/nerfing is bad. At the end of the day everyone will fly 1/2 of the ships from 1/2 of the races and they will all run the same setups because they get tired of being on the wrong side of the overpowered fence. Careful balancing of a game is what makes it diverse. People will want to spec in other races and other careers than the mainstream overpowered race. I'm not asking for everything to be the same. In my 4 years of eve I've never heard of anyone asking for such a thing. What we want is to be able to use our racial ships and boni in away that allows us to be competitive.
Dark Kavar Caldari Aionios Diadochi The Makhai	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:36:00 - [50] The myrm's ability to fit 5 heavy drones, just make the drone bay size 120 m3 and it'll be all good. If the drake shouldn't be able to tank like a BS why should a myrm gang like a BS? Nerfing needs to be nerfed, just play the game and enjoy it in the best way you can Kind of like the Triforce in Zelda, only not quite as potent.

Neo Providence	Posted - 2007.05.14 01:43:00 - [51] i think they should just nerf everything. then everyone would be happy, and nothing would actually change.
Sieges	Posted - 2007.05.14 02:25:00 - [52] Don't nerf anything. ----------- We need a way to Repackage and Transport Rigged Ships.
Kol Uk'ai	Posted - 2007.05.14 02:46:00 - [53] isn't called balance. and yes they should continue to do it. the only people that are calling for no nerfs are the ones that stand to loose their advantage. not really the best argument.
Lusian	Posted - 2007.05.14 05:05:00 - [54] Edited by: Lusian on 14/05/2007 05:07:29 Edited by: Lusian on 14/05/2007 05:05:21 I have the Ultimate solution, for those who want ships nerfed. Why dont we nerf the Complainers that complaine about everything that is not fair in he game and life isnt fair and i am glad that life and eve are not fair. Infact is thjere a way to nerf the nerf complainers on the froums and in the game ? I mean really..... There is no point in flying a ship that has a bonus and gives you no bonus because all you nerfing complainers complaint too much. get alive or stop complaining. My myrmadon has great attributes but is up sh!!$#^t creek without them. and i will be d@#Md if that ship gets nerfed. Infact why dont we all fly in pods and the one pod that gets bumped th emost pops first. This way there will be no one to complaione about who is needs to be nerfed, infact lets not fly in space at all..... I bet you'l all stop complaining then. Why dont u train your skills. and learn to manipulate what your ship can do for the best results. you will be supprised what a pilot that has trained skills for can really do. Can we have the Nerf complainer get nerfed for spamming the boards with useless complaints say like blocked
Phaedruss	Posted - 2007.05.14 05:15:00 - [55] Geez nerf threads give me the ****s. CCP nerf something, then people automatically look for the next most powerful thing to nerf...it's a vicious circle. Leave things as they are and encourage people to spend more time thinking creatively than it takes to write a nerf thread
Nian Banks Minmatar Berserkers of Aesir	Posted - 2007.05.14 05:38:00 - [56] Nerf the Myrm, and I have a solution to the 5 heavy drones problem, Why oh why do drone bonuses work on all drones? light = frigate, medium = cruiser/bc, large = bs. So Lets make it drone size specific. 10% increase to medium sized drone hitpoints and damage dealt by medium sized drones Problem solved, now the myrms drones are working as intended. On a side note, I think target painters should be nerfed, we all know they are uber overpowered atmo. Rofl.
Kol Uk'ai	Posted - 2007.05.14 05:48:00 - [57] Originally by: Lusian Why dont u train your skills. and learn to manipulate what your ship can do for the best results. you will be supprised what a pilot that has trained skills for can really do. The exact same thing could be said about your ship. Why are you so afraid of a nerf? because your ship will be less powerful -ie. you're now on the wrong side of the fence. Unfortunately you can't follow your own advice and learn how to pilot your newly balanced ship. can we nerf people that only see the game from their perspective.
Not Bait	Posted - 2007.05.14 06:55:00 - [58] It's too premature to even be thinking about directly nerfing drone boats. Two upcoming changes have serious potential to do that indirectly. CCP has hinted at NOS changes coming down the line. And we know AE damage will be made more accessible to combat clumps of ships (zomg, this could mean drones too!). Until both go live, and their effects can be judged, you are really jumping the gun on the call to gut a whole line of ships.
Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.05.14 07:25:00 - [59] Nerf: Forums Interceptors Warp distruptors Since They have no effective counters, and as such are imba. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Kol Uk'ai	Posted - 2007.05.14 07:30:00 - [60] Originally by: Laboratus Nerf: Forums Interceptors Warp distruptors Since They have no effective counters, and as such are imba. effective counters 1. don't read the forums 2. nos 3. wcs

Laboratus Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen	Posted - 2007.05.14 08:04:00 - [61] Originally by: Kol Uk'ai effective counters 1. don't read the forums 2. nos 3. wcs 1. somtimes stuff gets gimped, and me reading them does not really effect that. 2. Nos is too easy to avoid, and making nos a mandatory module to fight against ceptors only increases the amount of nos setups, and is as such kinda counterproductive. 3. Didn't you hear. They got gimped to ****. And warp distruptors are still a mandatory module for every pvp fit. Hence, by defenition imba. ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats
Johannes Alexodia	Posted - 2007.08.22 17:04:00 - [62] They will nerf 0.0 to were its carebear friendly and PVP becomes a joke... just like wow.


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