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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:26:00 -
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how about making ships also able to manufature drones...
it takes like 7 minuts to make 5 drones so if you place a BPO in a ship it will be able to build drones up to the max drone compacity.
rather than useing minerals to create them use hull points to create them.
example: you launch into a mission and you set drones to be manufactured.
none can be made cuz drone capacity is full but if you lose all 5 cuz of warp or just destroyed.
all of a sudden your hull takes 10% damage and in 7 minuts you will have 5 new drones!
tell me this is unballanced and i will laugh at you like a retard stabbing his eye!
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 21:50:00 -
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after you!
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.09 22:43:00 -
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lol drones builders lost thier foot hold on being a viable sorce of income there are so many unsold drones its driveing down the value that is of corse not including fighter drone producers but hey the market is saturated with so many builders now that people now often build thier own crap and have difficulty selling. its not like im asking for Tech 2 drones to be made there cuz you need advanced array or a station for that.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:25:00 -
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ok i stand corrected so T2 drones are made in same locations but it can be nerfed to only produce t1 drones.
as for the other coments you made sounded like jibberish to me
players with T1 small/medium and large drones stop makeing them for the makets cuz there are players on thier second day of eve with them BPOs
ok maybe a little exaderation but whats the point in selling an item only newbs will buy and that is if the newbs can afford it thus driving down the market.
it would not be a huge loss for anyone to allow a ship to manufature the drones using its so called extra parts or partial integraty.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 01:33:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 01:31:45
if you lack the creativity to post threads.... REALLY! whats the point to be here?
go play the game if your not willing to share ideas or try new ideas or even let the people tith ideas debate on more funtional methods to make an idea work.
you just sit here and post you angry little mind thoughts thrashing all ideas without consideration.
if you were any type of adult or had an creative mind you might help with the idea to make it work like some of the post.
but you know what i cant shut you up and i will not let your thrashing ideas go un desputed untill you help shed some lite or say something constructive.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:52:00 -
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vincent your post was much apreciated as per try to assist me in finding the flaw.
yet lets just say that drones that are created by a ship cannot be removed from the ship unless destroyed it will solve the melt down for minerals theory.
it will solve the consern of market also!
make sure these drones have a 0% chance of leaving salvage.
this being said would that eliminate all your concers and then make it a viable addition?
if not again why not?
there are lots of un explainable things in this game like...
how does 1 man or woman fly a battleship opperate all and maintain all systems?
thats impossible write?
well why can a ship have an automated bay where if given the scrap metal it could assemble electronic drones.
i mean sheesh my father work for aerospace where he monitors the machines do practicly 100% of assembly of airforce real life drones. and car manufacturing plants holy has people to inspect a finnished car.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 02:53:46
i probably have more expierience and skill points on this charictor than a few of you all put together so i think i qualify as being a vertan if not i will compare you to my many more accounts with higher skill levels but im confadent spawn is older than the majority of you.
i was probably playing eve when you guys were just a twinkle in your dadys eye.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:38:00 -
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how does this 1 pilot who operats the ship repair the ship or clean it or anything.
there are jobs abord any ship that cannot be replaced by 1 man.
what does this 1 man do if life suport systems fail.
jump in a submarine and let the captian tell you how important each man is.
it will never be possible to replace 100% of ones hands on.
is this person responcable for monitoring all the gauges that indicate speed, time, pressure, tempature, comunications, fix ruptured pipes, and controles just to scrach the surface i can come up with a minimum of 1000 more operations.
when do you sleep, who feeds you, who plays cards with you, who tells you stories about the wife in a thong?
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:46:00 -
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it would not interfear with manufaturing or other parts of ship cuz the pilot can multitask and the ship was designed before construction to have a scrap metal bay that creates drones.
if you leave the ship the drones return to bay.
if you warp away the drones will just disapear like wreakage left alone to long and you cannot return to pick up drones if your drone bay is trying to replace lost drones.
you cant steal a drone that is operated by another player so now it is impossible to exploit this method!
simple as there is no action pilot or thief can do to trade steal or rid of drones other than destruction.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 03:55:00 -
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no i coverd your issues just fine nothing in your post that i have not explaind so far.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 06:56:00 -
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well i do respect vincents oppinion and yours because you have shown me possible loopholes and it was easy for me like a wave of a wand to fix the loopholes.
onlything vincent said in his post that conflicted with my drone plan. was a player can launch drones and other players can grab them.
the easiest fix to this is have the drones disapear as you warp away or just the drones become a unancord colidable object for a brief moment say 15 minutes only creator ship is able to lauch or dock the drones back in the creator ship.
the drones are not free first there is the BPO then it takes hull damage.
lets even say it takes 30% hull damage to create
a full set of drones.
that can be a costly issue in a mission if you wait to long to warp in mission.
it takes 7 minuts to create 5 drones so applying this to a PVP thery would be silly cuz who last 7 minuts in a pvp battle
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 07:08:00 -
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and im not trying to apply this idea on any ship but rather all ships.
the only down side to the idea is t1 drone BPO owners is that its harder to sell them.
on the other hand the drones made in a station can be sold traded like normal and the ones in ship cant because they have to be destroyed to fit new drones.
lets say for example you have ship made drones you open drone bay and see drones when you try to take them out is tells you locked.
now you undock and lunch them out in space and redock
now you have space to put new drones.
when you go back outside the drone are not there cuz they disapear once they lose the drone controle range.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.10 11:13:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 10/04/2007 11:12:59
nope i use drones but actualy my drones is my lowest skill tree at just over 600k skill points in drones. my galentee account is well traind in drones but my other race accounts are not so skilld in drones either
strangely enough i think the current drone system is ballanced but use more flavor and i think the res of the game is ballanced but just cuz it is ballanced doesnt mean leave it alone the game can grow with the players. so any new ideas that fit in game well enough should be though as a viable option
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:10:00 -
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the people who make a living off T1 drones give up quickly because they do not produce enough income. this is why there are so few sellers.
well if your willing to fly 15 jumps for drones then hey, all i can say is i dont and wont.
if i have to fly more than 5 jumps for something i wont buy it i will just get the BPO and build it.
i dont care for noobs or nub but i do care for the newbs. i also have to say thats a funny statement.
many of us especialy corp members with roles are required to PVE for status allowing the corp to place POS in empire or to get jump clones. and most of us build our own ammo so it would hardly affect the ammo.
i happen to moonlight as a programmer (games only). and ro remove information is the easiest thing to do long as it is not shared information. i could go into detail but this would need chapters and i dont wanna write a novel. but i would say that they already have build brograms in game and you can duplicate them and write a short script to limit it in what ever ways.
trigger is all that is needed to activate hull damage just set the percentage and done.
you wouldnt rid of drones cuz they still need to be built by someone for those who dont have interest in the production side of eve.
the galente ships would not be stronger once again because every other ship in the game can mimic this addition making it have little impact.
i think what (emporor) was saying about open options was allowing any race any ship to take on a whole new combat element that galente perdy much was the master of. but then again it would not weaken the galente cuz the have the drone bonuses. is almost like this math problem... +100 -100 = 0. giving galente this option gives 100 points to galente giving this option to other races removes that 100 points.
the drones are not limitless because if we go by (emporors) idea then it is very time consuming as well as causing hull damage while your being shot at in a mission. pluss dont forget my idea locks the drones to the ship unless destroyed. so you cant use this method to make isk.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.24 23:35:00 -
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im not a navy commander im an intell advisor for special operation unit tactics.
this is my job!
i do not hold a PHD in mathmatics but my math skills are far above average!
math is a prerequisit to all computer related training and i just mention i moonlight as a programmer meaning i make little to no money with this hobby.
besides my roomate happens to hold 3 jobs and 3 very difficult jobs in diferent parts of the country so if i did claim to have all this wich i dont it is still possible given my age!
im 35 and probably have more years in school than you have on this earth!
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.26 20:33:00 -
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lol you people have an inability to remain on subjects.
are that ugly or suffer from lack of intamacy so much as to constantly ridicule people.
all i know is im glad this is internet not person to person cuz i was born and raised violent so i have my thoghts.
but i keep a level head and try to stay on subject so i dont act jovinile like you people.
you people all have the same answers! not only in my post but every post i see!
it wont work!
its unballanced!
its to powerfull!
ok great idea if it make me stronger!
you need to think outside the box, consider how each race feals about the same subject. just cuz it hurts me and my play style or favorite ship setup doent mean over all it brings more fun more variety more advresaty.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.27 03:38:00 -
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really! you think eporors chamian is my alt or something haha do you wanna see each of my alts i will post here to show all my alts and eporors is not one of them.
but who cares i wont even bother to try and fight you on it...
not worth my time. all i know is there are a few poeple here that suported my idea with an open mind an there thos of you who claim to be out of the closet flamers....
not sure why flammers in this game seem so angry
some of the flamers i know in real life seem much more happy ***s.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.29 16:29:00 -
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Edited by: SpawnSupreme on 29/04/2007 16:32:21
where do you get that info?
most of the people think 1 man does it all there ia no crews its all controled by the brain.
that is not feasable tho cuz if the ship recieves a vital damage then it requires the the dexteraty and skill of hands!
my roomate and i think we should pod some of you homosapians.
first of all i dont think any of you realize what this rule is about
second: if it is so bad of an idea why was itthought up and tested by CCP?
third: of all this idea from ccp was slightly modified to be more funtional.
forth: have any of you even bother for a brief second even concidered its funtionality?
fifth: do any of you even have a creative mind to think of new ideas or fixes to bad ideas to make them work?
come on rather than bashing something you dont understand, why not hop on my side of fence and figgure out a new way to work this old idea
i mean why not? CCP talking about removeing every game mechanic and replaceing new one that require a scanner to do anything even to find your butt.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.30 09:28:00 -
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you couldnt be more wrong! most people in military have a hard tims spelling words larger than 4 words!
i simply do not have the slightest care in the world if you like my english or how i use it or lack there of.
my only goal is to place a statement and creativity and fixes to old broken ideas with potential.
if you dont like it leap off a cliff!
i am paid well enough to have anything i want but i chose to have a roomate cuz i chosse to have more play money rather than pay bills only.
while you singe people struggle alone i have companionship and many toys like jet skis boat car and truck and 3 computers with 2 monitors each dirt bike skate board sports martial arts.
this is what i rather do with all my money!
its my choise and im happy with it!
and unfortunatly the US government does not pay me very well. i make less than 100k a year!
well you guys should get back to what your good at! sucking chrome off hitches.
i dont need anymorecoments or slander from you chumps.
just keep your pee pee lickers closed.
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SpawnSupreme
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Posted - 2007.04.30 09:59:00 -
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those are limitations to keep the people from exploiting this idea andgetting stupid with it.
you want me to put logic behind them oh how easy that is!
your ship requires minerals to be built but if you try to reuse materials that have already have been fassioned into its finnest state then you wish to reuse the materials again the quality would be worthless but yet still funtional.
like a sword, if you wish to melt down your great sword to make a katana the steal will become brittle and never as good quality but yet you can still create the katana.
making the materials if you refine the drones worthless or better yes just get scrap metal out of refine drones thats easy!
why the drones are locked to the ship! if you tell me you sell quality drones and i find out that these drones are referbished and crated of spair parts i will pod you and the station you do buisness! that is bad practice to try to falsely clame quality and offer junk, in the heat of battle no one will notice the quality of drones but if others see the junk it no telling what sort of reaction.
hears an idea why they simply disapear they are not original drones so when drone controle is broken rather than shutting down they just simply stay on course and fly and fly till thier gone!
ya know the circutry cat be as state of the art if your building them on the go! so there is no on off switch they are on and dont turn off till destroyed
ok i gave you your answers why those limitations would make sence!
any more bright ideas? none of you can challenge me!
i can justify even why god put your waist of space on this earth!
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