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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8461
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Posted - 2016.12.20 03:05:50 -
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vexooorr NavyIssue wrote:we dont want your **** merch made by your little asian slaves.
Then don't buy any. Problem solved.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8461
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Posted - 2016.12.20 03:07:23 -
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PopeUrban wrote:I'm buying my family 15% off coupons for stuff they're not interested in for xmas this year.
I'm sure they'll all agree it is just as good as the actualy gift cards and stuff I got them last year.
Maybe, just maybe, your family is better than you, and will accept the gift for what it is, a gift, that you are in no way obliged to give them under any circumstances.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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PopeUrban
El Expedicion Flames of Exile
318
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Posted - 2016.12.20 03:16:56 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:PopeUrban wrote:I'm buying my family 15% off coupons for stuff they're not interested in for xmas this year.
I'm sure they'll all agree it is just as good as the actualy gift cards and stuff I got them last year. Maybe, just maybe, your family is better than you, and will accept the gift for what it is, a gift, that you are in no way obliged to give them under any circumstances.
You obviously haven't met my family.
I don't care about not getting a gift.
I care when someone calls a sale a present. It isn't a present. Its a sale.
Sales are cool.
Trying to put a PR spin on a sale by calling it a "gift" isn't cool. It's not a gift. It's a market-fu. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8461
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Posted - 2016.12.20 03:25:22 -
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PopeUrban wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:PopeUrban wrote:I'm buying my family 15% off coupons for stuff they're not interested in for xmas this year.
I'm sure they'll all agree it is just as good as the actualy gift cards and stuff I got them last year. Maybe, just maybe, your family is better than you, and will accept the gift for what it is, a gift, that you are in no way obliged to give them under any circumstances. You obviously haven't met my family. I don't care about not getting a gift. I care when someone calls a sale a present. It isn't a present. Its a sale. Sales are cool. Trying to put a PR spin on a sale by calling it a "gift" isn't cool. It's not a gift. It's a market-fu.
It isn't cool, you're right. It's also not worth stomping your feet and throwing an epic tantrum over. Oh noes! One whole day without a tangible gift! ALL WE GOT WAS PR SPIN! *sob sob sob*. Excuse me while I go find a bucket I can throw up in.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Sameli Adelora
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2016.12.20 03:25:22 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:PopeUrban wrote:I'm buying my family 15% off coupons for stuff they're not interested in for xmas this year.
I'm sure they'll all agree it is just as good as the actualy gift cards and stuff I got them last year. Maybe, just maybe, your family is better than you, and will accept the gift for what it is, a gift, that you are in no way obliged to give them under any circumstances.
Except they said there giving gifts and then they want money. I really could careless about the gifts but I see no reason for anyone to defend this. Its a screw up plain and simple and they had to know it would **** people off.
And for anyone who rage quits as a result of the sale... I mean gift, can I have your stuff. |
Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8461
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Posted - 2016.12.20 03:28:09 -
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Sameli Adelora wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:PopeUrban wrote:I'm buying my family 15% off coupons for stuff they're not interested in for xmas this year.
I'm sure they'll all agree it is just as good as the actualy gift cards and stuff I got them last year. Maybe, just maybe, your family is better than you, and will accept the gift for what it is, a gift, that you are in no way obliged to give them under any circumstances. Except they said there giving gifts and then they want money. I really could careless about the gifts but I see no reason for anyone to defend this. Its a screw up plain and simple and they had to know it would **** people off. And for anyone who rage quits as a result of the sale... I mean gift, can I have your stuff.
So.... you do care a little bit at least about the gifts. I mean, if you could care less, then you have to care a bit in the first place.
Please try not to conflate my criticism of player entitlement with a defence of CCP's marketing choices. I couldn't care less about them, or the EVE store in the first place (since they have yet to put model ships in there, which is all I'm interested in). What I'm calling out is anyone that thinks CCP owes them more than they've paid for. They don't. They just don't. Regardless of PR spin, they don't owe you ****.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Sameli Adelora
State War Academy Caldari State
10
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Posted - 2016.12.20 03:42:32 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Sameli Adelora wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:PopeUrban wrote:I'm buying my family 15% off coupons for stuff they're not interested in for xmas this year.
I'm sure they'll all agree it is just as good as the actualy gift cards and stuff I got them last year. Maybe, just maybe, your family is better than you, and will accept the gift for what it is, a gift, that you are in no way obliged to give them under any circumstances. Except they said there giving gifts and then they want money. I really could careless about the gifts but I see no reason for anyone to defend this. Its a screw up plain and simple and they had to know it would **** people off. And for anyone who rage quits as a result of the sale... I mean gift, can I have your stuff. So.... you do care a little bit at least about the gifts. I mean, if you could care less, then you have to care a bit in the first place. Please try not to conflate my criticism of player entitlement with a defence of CCP's marketing choices. I couldn't care less about them, or the EVE store in the first place (since they have yet to put model ships in there, which is all I'm interested in). What I'm calling out is anyone that thinks CCP owes them more than they've paid for. They don't. They just don't. Regardless of PR spin, they don't owe you ****.
Sure I care about the gifts or I wouldn't have checked to see what was there to redeem. Its kind of like you posting in a thread about them. Its not about entitlement. If CCP had not said anything about gifts I would never expect one. However, they said they would be giving gifts and today was obviously not a gift. Also they don't owe me **** and I don't want **** but because they said they were giving gifts to players and to be sure and log in to collect your gift each day there should have been a gift even if it was carbon. |
Shiloh Templeton
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
583
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Posted - 2016.12.20 03:53:35 -
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I'm okay with this gift as it will be valuable to people who were already thinking of making a purchase. Plus I'd take advantage of a discount gift for plex or arum.
p.s. Besides I'm still happy about getting a nice accelerator yesterday.
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Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
382
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Posted - 2016.12.20 04:00:23 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote: (since they have yet to put model ships in there, which is all I'm interested in).
Just make your own models of the ships. . Google triexporter and papercraft eve ships.
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Dr Moe Dallocort
Sword and Shield RD
5
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Posted - 2016.12.20 04:08:04 -
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They also said it would be in game and good for 24 hrs except the 25th.
Sorry - if it was real gift it would have been posted better and this was their post about the gifts . . .
Please be aware that starting December 14th at 00:00:00 UTC these holiday gifts will begin to appear in your redeeming system.
Each gift will be present for 24 hours, until 23:59:59 UTC, when it will be replaced by the next gift. Be sure to log in and claim your gifts from your redeeming system to avoid missing out!
Nothing in the redeeming system; so it can't be a gift. |
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Ralph King-Griffin
Devils Rejects 666 The Devil's Warrior Alliance
19630
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Posted - 2016.12.20 04:24:38 -
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vexooorr NavyIssue wrote:we dont want your **** merch made by your little asian slaves. actually yes, yes we do very much want their **** merch made by their little asian slaves. what noone wants is to pay 2-3 times the cost in shipping.
We're Back in Business ,
Murderers of Negotiable Motivations
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Sean Roach
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
17
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Posted - 2016.12.20 05:00:58 -
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If CCP really wants to have whatever they had lined up for today, it'll get bundled in with a later day. Maybe it already has. Yesterday's was a skill booster thing, (thank you, it is much appreciated and will be well used) and a memento thing. Prior to that, I think multiples were either his and hers, or SKINS for all the races. So, maybe someone already goofed, and gave us two presents instead of one, and this is their way of catching it. |
Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1312
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Posted - 2016.12.20 05:14:37 -
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Sean Roach wrote:If CCP really wants to have whatever they had lined up for today, it'll get bundled in with a later day. Maybe it already has. Yesterday's was a skill booster thing, (thank you, it is much appreciated and will be well used) and a memento thing. Prior to that, I think multiples were either his and hers, or SKINS for all the races. So, maybe someone already goofed, and gave us two presents instead of one, and this is their way of catching it. Don't make excuses for CCP.
This is a torch and pitchforks thread. There is no room for reason here.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Cutter Isaacson
wiggle Tech. Pandamimic Legion
3164
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Posted - 2016.12.20 05:27:54 -
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Much as I'd love to own some CCP merchandise, there's no way in hell I'd ever pay $30 just on shipping, especially as I'd likely also end up paying even more tax on top of that to have it shipped to Germany. They desperately need an EU shipping centre if they ever want to sell more than a handful of things in the US.
"The truth is usually just an excuse for a lack of imagination." Elim Garak.
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
8465
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Posted - 2016.12.20 05:45:46 -
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Tuttomenui II wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote: (since they have yet to put model ships in there, which is all I'm interested in). Just make your own models of the ships. . Google triexporter and papercraft eve ships.
Or, I just wait for new ship models to become available and buy them, either premade or in kits, doesn't bother me either way. Model-making is a hobby of mine but premade is fine too. I have one of the old stone Megathron models on a stand in my room from before the model was changed in-game. I've since polished and re-painted it in a scheme that looks like what the US Navy uses on F-5 aggressors in war games.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
178
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Posted - 2016.12.20 05:53:12 -
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logged in every day since the 14th and I haven't received a thing. fk ccp |
Octoven
Viziam Amarr Empire
393
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Posted - 2016.12.20 06:04:20 -
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As much as the 15% off is a thoughtful gift....shipping is still an issue in other countries and to be quite honest...there isn't enough items on the store to make it worth it. Not much variety I think it's less than 25 total items. Free shipping would have been nice. |
Tuttomenui II
Aliastra Gallente Federation
384
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Posted - 2016.12.20 06:22:04 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:logged in every day since the 14th and I haven't received a thing. fk ccp
Are you unaware how the redeeming system works? at charactor selection there is a bar across the bottom that says redeem if there is something there to redeem, you clickt hat it pops up further you drag the item to your character.. you can also check it in game in the E menu under inventory I believe.
Or maybe you have been getting the items but don't know how to open the crate, double click it.
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Sy Tarn Thallion
Outcast Marine SF Templis CALSF
12
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Posted - 2016.12.20 06:51:32 -
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Yeah wth is going on? on both of my characters on the same email didn't even get day two. one account got day 4 . and today neither of my characters got day 19's gift. i'm missing gifts even though i log on and theres nothing in my redeem box. which is obviously a red flag considering that right after one gift expires the next one is supposed to take its place. i'm getting really irritated at this and ccp won't respond to my reports. |
Drago Shouna
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
682
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Posted - 2016.12.20 07:03:13 -
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$22.50 to have a $11.99 glass or lanyard shipped to the UK?
Sod that for a game of space pixels...
Solecist Project...." They refuse to play by the rules and laws of the game and use it as excuse ..."
" They don't care about how you play as long as they get to play how they want."
Welcome to EVE.
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Wanda Fayne
351
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Posted - 2016.12.20 07:28:51 -
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Shae Tadaruwa wrote:Sean Roach wrote:If CCP really wants to have whatever they had lined up for today, it'll get bundled in with a later day. Maybe it already has. Yesterday's was a skill booster thing, (thank you, it is much appreciated and will be well used) and a memento thing. Prior to that, I think multiples were either his and hers, or SKINS for all the races. So, maybe someone already goofed, and gave us two presents instead of one, and this is their way of catching it. Don't make excuses for CCP. This is a torch and pitchforks thread. There is no room for reason here.
Oh so relevant
your comments just confirms this whole idea is totally pathetic
-Lan Wang-
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Matthias Ancaladron
Wrath of Angels
35
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Posted - 2016.12.20 07:47:07 -
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Just think of it as a day off from redeeming. At least we all got a pair of pants. Pants are usually super expensive isk wise compared to outerwear. I was hoping there's be a matching pair of lockstep boots or something but oh well. A sale is better than a dud gift like forged frigate blueprints.
Back in my runescape days there used to be holiday specific quests and you'd get a cool rare item at the end. Kinda miss that. Most of the gifts so far have been died except the free pants. Glacial ship skins are ugly and the items given out don't do anything. The accelerator is nice but it's only 24 hours. So not much from that. Sale should have just been a Christmas sale.
Maybe there will be 1-2 good ones at the end and not just more glacial skins. Ear augmentation would be cooohl, thicker beards or hair styles for winter, sleek turtlenecks or knit sweaters maybe even racial scarves. Those would all be cool. |
LT drone
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2016.12.20 07:47:43 -
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Drago Shouna wrote:$22.50 to have a $11.99 glass or lanyard shipped to the UK?
Sod that for a game of space pixels...
Its like ccp is autistic sometimes, no foresight, no fugging box, the special subscribe offer with no expire date on it expired, its my birthday on top of that. Not cool ccp get with the times, So what that you cant pull out a tab from the overview which you need as the game has now more then 100 players in battles and it would be freaking helpful to have 2 overviews, So what that you cant drag drop items on to the inventory icon in station, or market icon to sell, So what that the fitting window simulator doesnt always lets you unfit the module so you have to back out the whole thing, So what that the tutorial msg is stuck on top of the hud hp readings(not like newbies need to know the hp right), So what that you get ganked by concord for shooting at a silly wreck of someone else, So what that you cant get your api if you have a steam account and a regular account linked to the same email, So what that undocking from stations takes up to 10 secs of looking at a black screen, So what that the jita market respond times are 20 secs, so what that the industry window takes 40 secs to load,,, But no birthday gift, No box and withdrawing the subscription deal Whilst giving a discount on rl stuff that i dont use as i dont have a rl, that just hurts.
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Shae Tadaruwa
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1313
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Posted - 2016.12.20 07:56:03 -
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LT drone wrote:Drago Shouna wrote:$22.50 to have a $11.99 glass or lanyard shipped to the UK?
Sod that for a game of space pixels... Its like ccp is autistic sometimes, no foresight, no fugging box, the special subscribe offer with no expire date on it expired, its my birthday on top of that. Not cool ccp get with the times, So what that you cant pull out a tab from the overview which you need as the game has now more then 100 players in battles and it would be freaking helpful to have 2 overviews, So what that you cant drag drop items on to the inventory icon in station, or market icon to sell, So what that the fitting window simulator doesnt always lets you unfit the module so you have to back out the whole thing, So what that the tutorial msg is stuck on top of the hud hp readings(not like newbies need to know the hp right), So what that you get ganked by concord for shooting at a silly wreck of someone else, So what that you cant get your api if you have a steam account and a regular account linked to the same email, So what that undocking from stations takes up to 10 secs of looking at a black screen, So what that the jita market respond times are 20 secs, so what that the industry window takes 40 secs to load,,, But no birthday gift, No box and withdrawing the subscription deal Whilst giving a discount on rl stuff that i dont use as i dont have a rl, that just hurts. I'm getting a bit low, can you leave this outside my CQ after you've filled it:
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSX6CBMntVDqIJh3EYXAh9xATR5bauX93a8l-S17aYUeaZaSHBlF0R5tgc
Thanks. Much appreciated.
Dracvlad - "...Your intel is free intel, all you do is pay for it..." && "...If you warp on the same path as a cloaked ship, you'll make a bookmark at exactly the same spot as the cloaky camper..."
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Greken
The Lost Regime
0
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Posted - 2016.12.20 08:11:02 -
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Sameli Adelora wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Sameli Adelora wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:PopeUrban wrote:I'm buying my family 15% off coupons for stuff they're not interested in for xmas this year.
I'm sure they'll all agree it is just as good as the actualy gift cards and stuff I got them last year. Maybe, just maybe, your family is better than you, and will accept the gift for what it is, a gift, that you are in no way obliged to give them under any circumstances. Except they said there giving gifts and then they want money. I really could careless about the gifts but I see no reason for anyone to defend this. Its a screw up plain and simple and they had to know it would **** people off. And for anyone who rage quits as a result of the sale... I mean gift, can I have your stuff. So.... you do care a little bit at least about the gifts. I mean, if you could care less, then you have to care a bit in the first place. Please try not to conflate my criticism of player entitlement with a defence of CCP's marketing choices. I couldn't care less about them, or the EVE store in the first place (since they have yet to put model ships in there, which is all I'm interested in). What I'm calling out is anyone that thinks CCP owes them more than they've paid for. They don't. They just don't. Regardless of PR spin, they don't owe you ****. Sure I care about the gifts or I wouldn't have checked to see what was there to redeem. Its kind of like you posting in a thread about them. Its not about entitlement. If CCP had not said anything about gifts I would never expect one. However, they said they would be giving gifts and today was obviously not a gift. Also they don't owe me **** and I don't want **** but because they said they were giving gifts to players and to be sure and log in to collect your gift each day there should have been a gift even if it was carbon. ^Well said - Bottom line, they said gifts would be in the redeeming system.. As Dr Moe Dallocort said, "Nothing in the redeeming system; so it can't be a gift."
Remiel Pollard - "It's also not worth stomping your feet and throwing an epic tantrum over. Oh noes! One whole day without a tangible gift! ALL WE GOT WAS PR SPIN! *sob sob sob*. Excuse me while I go find a bucket I can throw up in."
You should feel ashamed for giving people grief when they are simply pointing out a fact. Just look at your drivel, nobody threw an "epic tantrum" over not having a gift. Jumping all over anybody you can and accusing them of feeling "entitled"... Really? Guess what, CCP themselves said there would be something in the redeeming system each day.... EACH DAY for 12 days... That means we ARE entitled to redeem something IN-GAME each day.
I dont think anybody here is really upset about not receiving a "gift"... I'd have been happy with a piece of coal. But they said there would be SOMETHING there each day, and today there wasn't.
Pointing out the facts and bringing this to CCP's attention is in no way improper. Put your lynching rope away. |
Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
210
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Posted - 2016.12.20 08:19:46 -
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So when did CCP hire used car salesmen as client relationship engineers? |
March rabbit
Mosquito Squadron The-Culture
1997
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Posted - 2016.12.20 08:20:45 -
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Words worth very little in modern Western World.... Some people even happy with others tricking them. They call it 'marketing'.
Pity people actually....
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22684
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Posted - 2016.12.20 08:29:44 -
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Quote:Sorry, we're out of stock What can I buy then?
CCP office air inside a box + shipping costs?
CCP Santa, u bad.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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Dornath Megara
EVE University Ivy League
0
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Posted - 2016.12.20 08:32:41 -
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Salt harvesting like a pro
OP Success CCP! |
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
22684
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Posted - 2016.12.20 08:55:55 -
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Dornath Megara wrote:Salt harvesting like a pro OP Success CCP! They prefer salt rather than money? It must be really valuable on icelandic market.
Every part of a game helps to tell a story =ƒôò
Where is Angry CONCORD guy when you need him
Osprey =ƒÜÇ
GëíGïüGëí GÖÑ
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