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Jacques d'Orleans
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Posted - 2017.03.30 15:45:28 -
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guigui lechat wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Miner calm down!
please stop your insults too, unless of course you enjoy his insults.
Miner is a profession, not an insult.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2017.03.30 15:46:27 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:guigui lechat wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote: Miner calm down!
please stop your insults too, unless of course you enjoy his insults. Miner is a profession, not an insult.
clown confirmed.
Did I call it, or did I call it?
I would actually like to hear an argument that would explain why I am wrong, but I can see that will never happen from this lot. |
Jacques d'Orleans
3044
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Posted - 2017.03.30 15:47:03 -
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: Do you realize you haven't made a single valid point,and that you haven't made a single post that did not contain insults?
That coming from you? Oh, the irony!
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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guigui lechat
the no fock given
23
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Posted - 2017.03.30 15:48:10 -
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The way you use it is an insult. And being a profession does not prevent to use it as an insult, as you do.
You are downlooking on people and only this already explains all the insults you got before. So stop being a smartass. I tell you, you are insulting. I'm not your parent to explain you why calling people names is insulting. |
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2017.03.30 15:49:57 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: Do you realize you haven't made a single valid point,and that you haven't made a single post that did not contain insults?
That coming from you? Oh, the irony!
Other people in the the thread have agreed with me. You aren't even capable of forming an argument or even explain what it is exactly that you don't agree with.
Don't you have something better to do than troll by acting like a total moron?
guigui lechat wrote:The way you use it is an insult. And being a profession does not prevent to use it as an insult, as you do.
You are downlooking on people and only this already explains all the insults you got before. So stop being a smartass. I tell you, you are insulting. I'm not your parent to explain you why calling people names is insulting.
Thank you, gui. Your accurate posts have been the most redeeming quality of this thread. I mean that.
I hope you will excuse me when I have to put the trash in its place. |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
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Posted - 2017.03.30 15:53:39 -
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: Do you realize you haven't made a single valid point,and that you haven't made a single post that did not contain insults?
That coming from you? Oh, the irony! Other people in the the thread have agreed with me. You aren't even capable of forming an argument or even explain what it is exactly that you don't agree with. Don't you have something better to do than troll by acting like a total moron?
please, nobody agreed totally with you. the goal of a discussion is to find the agreement and sisagreement points.
For example I only agree there may be a problem ; however I don't think it exists. But just thinking is in no way an argument so I don't expose it as one.
I also agree that L4 bot is easy to do and so can be profitable more easily than mining bot. |
Jacques d'Orleans
3044
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Posted - 2017.03.30 15:55:22 -
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guigui lechat wrote:The way you use it is an insult. And being a profession does not prevent to use it as an insult, as you do.
You are downlooking on people and only this already explains all the insults you got before. So stop being a smartass. I tell you, you are insulting. I'm not your parent to explain you why calling people names is insulting.
You're new to the meta game, are you?
Also obligatory: Do you have a mining permit? There is a spring action sale, one mining permit is just 10 M isk, valid for one year. A real bargain if you aks me.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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guigui lechat
the no fock given
23
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Posted - 2017.03.30 15:55:55 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:guigui lechat wrote:The way you use it is an insult. And being a profession does not prevent to use it as an insult, as you do.
You are downlooking on people and only this already explains all the insults you got before. So stop being a smartass. I tell you, you are insulting. I'm not your parent to explain you why calling people names is insulting. You're new to the meta game, are you? Also obligatory: Do you have a mining permit? There is a spring action sale, one mining permit is just 10 M isk, valid for one year. A real bargain if you aks me.
go away, this is for people discuting, not for children blabering. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything.
When you'll be over 12 you may understand life but for now you still need your parents to think for you. So don't post unless they correct your post. |
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2017.03.30 16:05:00 -
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guigui lechat wrote:
please, nobody agreed totally with you. the goal of a discussion is to find the agreement and sisagreement points.
For example I only agree there may be a problem ; however I don't think it exists. But just thinking is in no way an argument so I don't expose it as one.
I also agree that L4 bot is easy to do and so can be profitable more easily than mining bot.
However I dont't think the bots are crashing the market - but again I don't have any argument, just my feeling.
What part did you disagree with?
I guess it depends on what you view as problematic. Do you believe that if someone is able to cheat and earn LP effortlessly, while others do it legit, that it is unfair to those players who earn LP legit, and thus becomes problematic for those players?
Can they lower the value of LP for some players without crashing the market?
If you say yes to these questions, then i think you do totally agree with me.
It may not be a significant problem for a lot of people, but it is still a problem for some people. And we seem to be thinking of this only in terms of how it effects other players and ignoring the fact that players are breaking the EULA and cheating.
Most of the commenters seem to be thinking of things only pertaining their own perspective, rather than how this effects others. |
Jacques d'Orleans
3044
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Posted - 2017.03.30 16:05:58 -
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guigui lechat wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:guigui lechat wrote:The way you use it is an insult. And being a profession does not prevent to use it as an insult, as you do.
You are downlooking on people and only this already explains all the insults you got before. So stop being a smartass. I tell you, you are insulting. I'm not your parent to explain you why calling people names is insulting. You're new to the meta game, are you? Also obligatory: Do you have a mining permit? There is a spring action sale, one mining permit is just 10 M isk, valid for one year. A real bargain if you aks me. go away, this is for people discuting, not for children. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything. When you'll be over 12 you may understand life but for now you still need your parents to think for you. So don't post unless they correct your post.
Oh, your losing your temper. See, how easy it is to step down to the OP's level of impotent rage.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2017.03.30 16:07:05 -
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Jacques d'Orleans wrote:guigui lechat wrote:Jacques d'Orleans wrote:guigui lechat wrote:The way you use it is an insult. And being a profession does not prevent to use it as an insult, as you do.
You are downlooking on people and only this already explains all the insults you got before. So stop being a smartass. I tell you, you are insulting. I'm not your parent to explain you why calling people names is insulting. You're new to the meta game, are you? Also obligatory: Do you have a mining permit? There is a spring action sale, one mining permit is just 10 M isk, valid for one year. A real bargain if you aks me. go away, this is for people discuting, not for children. If you have nothing to say, don't say anything. When you'll be over 12 you may understand life but for now you still need your parents to think for you. So don't post unless they correct your post. Oh, your losing your temper. See, how easy it is to step down to the OP's level of impotent rage.
No, hes right. Nobody even knows what you are about, and can't possibly take you seriously.
Haven't you made an idiot of yourself enough? |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
23
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Posted - 2017.03.30 16:10:57 -
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: What part did you disagree with?
I guess it depends on what you view as problematic. Do you believe that if someone is able to cheat and earn LP effortlessly, while others do it legit, that it is unfair to those players who earn LP legit, and thus becomes problematic for those players?
Can they lower the value of LP for some players without crashing the market?
If you say yes to these questions, then i think you do totally agree with me.
It may not be a significant problem for a lot of people, but it is still a problem for some people.
Most of the commenters seem to be thinking of things only pertaining their own perspective, rather than how this effects others.
I consider your point of view plausible but I do not think it bo be the reality. I do not "disagree", I just have a different opinion(but no argument to share as I said)
and everybody sees things with his own perspective, when discussing we need to share our perspectives. Without insults and without looking down on people. |
ISD Chanisa Nemes
isd community communications liaisons
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Posted - 2017.03.30 18:45:10 -
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Okay guys, look...
There has been a lot of bickering in this thread. I get that you all have very strong opinions on the subject but if a constructive discussion and debate is to continue, everyone has to respect each other and stop throwing insults all over. This goes for everyone. I will continue to monitor this thread so everyone, be nice.
And here's a cute puppy gif so we can all feel better and move on <3
ISD Chanisa Nemes
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department
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Andrew Indy
Jedran Space Services
247
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Posted - 2017.03.31 03:14:25 -
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: What part did you disagree with?
I know this is not aimed at me but here we go.
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: I guess it depends on what you view as problematic. Do you believe that if someone is able to cheat and earn LP effortlessly, while others do it legit, that it is unfair to those players who earn LP legit, and thus becomes problematic for those players?
Yes, People cheating is a problem.
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: Can they lower the value of LP for some players without crashing the market?
Technically if a lot of people are cheating in that way it may affect the Value of LP.
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: If you say yes to these questions, then i think you do totally agree with me.
It may not be a significant problem for a lot of people, but it is still a problem for some people. And we seem to be thinking of this only in terms of how it effects other players and ignoring the fact that players are breaking the EULA and cheating.
Most of the commenters seem to be thinking of things only pertaining their own perspective, rather than how this effects others.
Agreeing with the first 2 does not mean that someone agrees with your solution to the problem or that the problem is as big as you suggest. (IE I'm sure that we would all agree that its possible that a meteorite could hit the earth and kill everyone, does not mean that everyone would agree to spending a huge amount of money many a system to help prevent it)
Firstly, you say that cheater are affecting legit players, what about legit Alphas who run Legit Lvl4 courier missions. Your solution would nerf their game play as well. As well as any Alpha that is doing anything that involves the ships affected.
Secondly from the research that I did, the value of LP does not seem to have dropped drastically if at all which means it may very well not be affecting the people you say it is. Why nerf a legit play style to help people that are not being adversely affected.
Thirdly, if the things they are doing is against the EULA then those responsible should be targeted using the terms in that agreement. If people Bot in X ship or Mine in Y ship you would not nerf the ships into the ground right? Same could be said here.
And Finally, if you kill this game play why would he botters not just move to Lvl3 missions, sure they are lower Isk but as you said you can have an unlimited number of accounts doing it 23.5/7 so who cares.
In closing most people are not bastards, Some things are easy say like killing someone but that does not mean that everyone is doing it. |
Professor Sternu Tarantoga
The Futurological Congress
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Posted - 2017.03.31 12:06:59 -
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After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: GÇ£Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..GÇ¥ |
guigui lechat
the no fock given
23
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Posted - 2017.03.31 12:09:16 -
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Professor Sternu Tarantoga wrote:After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: GÇ£Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..GÇ¥ made me laugh :)
"Filthy rich cargo mission runners will hate me for letting this ancestral secret escape" |
Andrew Indy
Jedran Space Services
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Posted - 2017.04.04 04:22:14 -
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guigui lechat wrote:Professor Sternu Tarantoga wrote:After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: GÇ£Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..GÇ¥ made me laugh :) "Filthy rich cargo mission runners will hate me for letting this ancestral secret escape"
"3 easy step to becoming a filthy rich cargo mission runner you will never believe"
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Acher0n Hades
Ze One Man Show
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Posted - 2017.04.04 09:08:38 -
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Andrew Indy wrote:guigui lechat wrote:Professor Sternu Tarantoga wrote:After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: GÇ£Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..GÇ¥ made me laugh :) "Filthy rich cargo mission runners will hate me for letting this ancestral secret escape" "3 easy step to becoming a filthy rich cargo mission runner you will never believe"
I am a Minmatar prince and want to move a billion cargo mission loyalty points from Minmatar space to Caldari space. You can have 10% of the LP if you help me move them, but I need 500 Mil. ISK to pay the taxes in advance.
There are also Minmatar damsels that want to marry you because of your good looking Avatar, you just have to pay for the flight and paperwork.
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Piugattuk
Lima beans Corp
584
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Posted - 2017.04.05 02:05:25 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Hmmm...
I hadnt realizedf how capable hauler alphas can be with the T1 industrials.
Much less that they can farm LP like this.
Dang your character looks like Evan Jonigkeit from the Netflix mini series Frontier.
http://imgur.com/JXHDE5C |
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