take a serious beating (which dissuades casual bankers).

Damage Control II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Corpii A-Type Thermal Plating
Corpii C-Type EM Plating
Corpii C-Type Kinetic Plating
800mm Steel Plates II

Medium Micro Jump Drive
Burst Jammer II

Improved Cloaking Device II
Core Probe Launcher II

Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

It's about 120k EHP. No one's going to gank that in a hurry.

It's about 120k EHP. No one's going to gank that in a hurry.

Keep thinking this way and you will become the gankers favorite target especially if you are hauling high value cargo.
Even in high sec the gankers can go through a freighter in less than 20 seconds and most of them if fit properly are well above 150,000 EHP.

There is nothing in high sec that cannot be ganked, what keeps you off the target list is carefully controlling the value of your cargo versus the cost to the gankers in lost ships. When trying to work this out in your head remember that they are building the ships and modules they loose themselves, usually they do not by them off the markets.

Ill be moving a lot.... once i get my alts set up and finish training ill go through 756m3 per hour so 18144 a day so 544k or so a month

But as i said it will be high value... i think i figured the 60k i could fit into the dst was close to 2bill isk.

But anyway you get the idea, so considering the value per m3 a freighter and orca would be inviting a gank wouldnt it

An orca would need someone webbing you for fast warps right? Or can you manage a mwd cloak trick with an orca

You can do either.

My Orca has a 500 mn Microwarpdrive on it. As soon as I initiate warp (from a "cold stop") I turn it on and then off. Once the MWD cycle is done, I shoot off into warp.
This means I am in-warp in about 10 seconds... giving little time for anyone to get a good scan of me.

If you have a friend who can web you, you can go into warp in half that time (which is faster than most ganking crews' "point men" can react).

Yeah but your not trying to out tank the Gankers, we know you can't.

You just have to out tank the dumbass next to you with his life in the back of his expanded freighter .

An active piloted DST is a lot smaller, a lot faster, and can mjd away if you're quick.
Sure you can be caught and popped but the harder you make it the more you're offsetting the value of your cargo.

Ralph I do not argue with you on any of this, but then I think you misread or do not understand my comment.
Apex Bex stated than no one was going to gank a 120k EHP ship in a hurry, my comment was simply to tell him that is a lie gankers can and routinely do go though ships with more than 120k EHP in less than 20 seconds.

An orca would need someone webbing you for fast warps right? Or can you manage a mwd cloak trick with an orca

Id assume not but cant hurt to ask

And thanks again for all the advice everyone, i appreciate it

if youre doing in excess of 30b PI a month but using a hauling service to transport it to hisec would use up your profits, you are doing something very wrong

Keep thinking this way and you will become the gankers favorite target especially if you are hauling high value cargo.
Even in high sec the gankers can go through a freighter in less than 20 seconds and most of them if fit properly are well above 150,000 EHP.

There is nothing in high sec that cannot be ganked, what keeps you off the target list is carefully controlling the value of your cargo versus the cost to the gankers in lost ships. When trying to work this out in your head remember that they are building the ships and modules they loose themselves, usually they do not by them off the markets.