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Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:24:00 -
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Palladius Ahashion wrote:I appreciate all the responses here. I have decided to leave my current corp. There aren't many active players in it, and they start their roams about an hour after I go to bed. They get pissy about my play schedule and my lack of PVP skillz. Even so, I'm really at a loss as to what to do next. I'm willing to get exploded as often as it takes to learn, but my play time is not infinite. Other than RvB, can anyone recommend a decent, ACTIVE, PvP focused corp that would recruit someone with almost zero PvP experience and train them to not suck?
Talliana invited you to Beasts of Burden at the top of this page. I used to fly with them way back and for the most part were pretty chill. I don't know what they are like these days except Talliana is very helpful on the forums but I'd see what they have to offer you.
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Palladius Ahashion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.08 17:44:00 -
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Yeah, just noticed that. I'll definitely give them a look. |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
Happy Endings
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:27:00 -
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When I got sick of mining years and years ago and decided to get into PvP, I joined the Gallente militia and proceeded to get lots of Tristans shot out from under me.
Although it's not the route I'd suggest for new players, learning how to pvp effectively in a slow, short-range, triple-split frigate was definitely one of the most useful experiences I've ever had in this game. Now I fly a 'cane for the most part (since I'm retraining Minmatar for my current corp) and its total easymode by comparison.
But, since it looks like Rifters aren't working out for you, definitely try something else. And DEFINITELY get out of your current corp if you don't like it - living in lowsec is a thousand times easier with a good corp that you fit in well with, and living in nullsec is practically impossible without one.
My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.01.08 19:31:00 -
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Buy a logistics alt, a booster alt and a falcon alt. |
Lady Spank
GET OUT NASTY FACE
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Posted - 2012.01.08 20:30:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Buy a logistics alt, a booster alt and a falcon alt.
Ignore shiptoasting moron alts that can't prove any genuine combat experience.
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shal ri
Zanzibar Land
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:06:00 -
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there is ofc many things to keep track of when u pvp, its not the easiest thing to get the hang of in the slightest. as said by many others that posted, eperience is everything. BCs are great ships to use for pvp they can tank and gank at the same time ( with the right fit ofc ) and can take most ships on. however knowing is half the battle. most pvpers will know bait when they see it. some times is ballent, other times its not.
frigs are goin to be tough to start with. they have such a small range of targets the can kill u cant really find the fights u want even when there are ships on scan to kill. cruisers are ur best bet to pvp with when startin out as they can tank and move with some nice speed, ie the rupture is a great ships as well as the vexor.
if u want to do solo pvp in a BC, the myrm is the best solo ship the money can buy. it will own every other bc under the sun solo. yes i said EVERY BC. it ofc requires alot of micro management so not the best to start at the same token.
living in the same area also goes a long way to helpin in the intel department of pvp. knowings whos blue with who and whos does wat at certain times will get u kills more often then not. get the idea of a fair fight out of ur head. there no such thing as a fair fight. EVER. common sense is just as useful in eve as the mods on ur ship. u wouldnt follow some 1 to a dark alley at mid night just cuz they said that u could get a good deal on a tv. that just spells ******.
knowing ship fits for certain ships is a great way to get the upper hand in an engagement. like drakes for example theres 3 fits that ppl come up with on that ship. nano heavy drake, passive drake for the fags that fear losing thier ship, and the heavy asaault drake. so its a toss up between those fits but atleast u know wat u can do against the ship when its presented to u and fly accordingly. |
Palladius Ahashion
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.09 17:43:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Buy a logistics alt, a booster alt and a falcon alt.
With all the ISK farming I'd have to do to pay for the extra accounts, toons, PLEX, and ships when would I have time to PVP?
And if I'm gonna blow all that cash on winning, why wouldn't I just pay people to let me kill them? |
Kessiaan
Greater Order Of Destruction
Happy Endings
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Posted - 2012.01.09 18:33:00 -
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shal ri wrote: if u want to do solo pvp in a BC, the myrm is the best solo ship the money can buy. it will own every other bc under the sun solo. yes i said EVERY BC. it ofc requires alot of micro management so not the best to start at the same token.
I love my dual-rep Myrm to death (multiple deaths, actually), but I'd question this statement. The Myrm (even a shield Myrm) is much slower than a run-of-the-mill shield tanked nanocane, which can kite it to death (after popping your drones) pretty easily if the pilot is even remotely decent. Same with the Drake - heavy shield tank can ignore your drones for a long time, and with a nano or two in the lows is faster and more agile than the Myrm, you'll just never get to web range. At best you can make them withdraw, and if they have friends you have zero GTFO ability. And don't even get me started on sentries popping your drones.
My killboard - http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Kessiaan |
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
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Posted - 2012.01.09 19:44:00 -
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Lady Spank wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Buy a logistics alt, a booster alt and a falcon alt. Ignore shiptoasting moron alts that can't prove any genuine combat experience.
I like the complete lack of a sense of humor and massive elitism you have there. |
shal ri
Zanzibar Land
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:43:00 -
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Kessiaan wrote:shal ri wrote: if u want to do solo pvp in a BC, the myrm is the best solo ship the money can buy. it will own every other bc under the sun solo. yes i said EVERY BC. it ofc requires alot of micro management so not the best to start at the same token. I love my dual-rep Myrm to death (multiple deaths, actually), but I'd question this statement. The Myrm (even a shield Myrm) is much slower than a run-of-the-mill shield tanked nanocane, which can kite it to death (after popping your drones) pretty easily if the pilot is even remotely decent. Same with the Drake - heavy shield tank can ignore your drones for a long time, and with a nano or two in the lows is faster and more agile than the Myrm, you'll just never get to web range. At best you can make them withdraw, and if they have friends you have zero GTFO ability. And don't even get me started on sentries popping your drones.
thats when palyer skill comes into play. nano canes play at about 12 to 15 k range. and with 2 med neuts it came be a pain. but if u know wat ur doin myrm will **** nano canes as they cant micro forever running the nuets tryin to cap out the myrm. if u let ppl pop ur drones then ur just stupid. myrms have an over heat micro of about 1300 so will catch **** on the go with the right situation.
plus webs overheat to 13k. if that cane get in range hes dead. join that with ecm 600s and u got 1 mean solo ship. nut as with all pvp its player skill intensive. ive used the myrm many time on gate camps keepin an eye on ur drones is key.
like i said it requires alot of micro mangement to fly but a great ship all around. |
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supr3m3justic3
Imperium Technologies
F0RCEFUL ENTRY
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Posted - 2012.01.10 22:56:00 -
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Palladius Ahashion wrote:Abdiel Kavash wrote:
Yes. If the fight is fair, you have already lost. The essence of EVE PvP is to fight on your terms where you know you can win, while making it appear to the enemy that the fight is going well for them so they will actually engage. Get good at deception, intercepting enemies where they don't expect you, hiding your reinforcements until the last possible moment, splitting enemy forces and slaughtering the weak. Meanwhile learn to predict when the hostilesare trying to do the same to you and how to avoid it.
EVE is as "fair" as a game of chess. Does a pawn have a chance to capture a rook by itself? Not in a hundred years. But a good player would never leave their pawns exposed - unless it's for a greater strategic purpose.
So, basically try to guess what the other guy's game is and warp away if I'm not reasonably sure I can kill him before his backup arrives? But, the other guy's going to be doing the same to me. So, if I surmise that I can beat him then he'll surmise the same thing and disengage unless I'm wrong or he's being crafty. I never imagined PVP would be 90% feinting and sizing each other up. How the heck do people do all that calculus in the 2 seconds before a fight starts all while juggling modules and managing range/speed? Is it just practice? Reminds me of... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6MRR8IRvDQ
Not to be maen here, but since you already got some help. It's clear you bought your account. Because there is no way you got to 25Mil SP with out learning a few of the most basic tactics in eve. I only say that because 25m/SP is like what...2 years of training? I'm not knocking you for it, just pointing that out. It took most of us over a year of training up and acctually playing for that time to get to the point we are at now, Eve isnt a normal MMO..."Yet". Its requires alot of time and effort to be good at it. |
lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis
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Posted - 2012.01.11 09:07:00 -
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Vimsy Vortis wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Vimsy Vortis wrote:Buy a logistics alt, a booster alt and a falcon alt. Ignore shiptoasting moron alts that can't prove any genuine combat experience. Not sure who you're talking to.
The OP, regarding you. Obviously. Guess you should skip buying the logistics alt, booster alt and falcon alt, and use the money to buy yourself some reading comprehension lessons instead. |
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