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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.13 18:58:00 -
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It is common enough to find character with no "employement history", the field is totally blank, not even the starting corporation.
To get that they should somewhat hack the character.
It should be reported as an exploit?
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Nyana
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:08:00 -
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You shouldn't petition this as an exploit, no.
My char* does have employment history, but it's cut off. According to it, my first corp was Deep Core Mining Inc., the NPC corp I end up in if I leave a player corp. All characters should have a newbie corp (school), but...
I petitioned this, just because I was curious, and got the response that my char was created before the newbie corps existed. I doubt it, TBH, but still.
* Not this char, my main account is inactive atm.
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RedFall
Irreligion
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:09:00 -
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I would ransom them. Tell them to give you a billion isk or you'll petition it.
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Standard Deviation
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:21:00 -
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old characters, those created before the they added the employment history, who have not switched corps will have no history.
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Wendat Huron
Lupus Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.13 19:29:00 -
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Those are haxxing devs, blow them up. 
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turnschuh
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.13 22:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Standard Deviation
old characters, those created before the they added the employment history, who have not switched corps will have no history.
I had a simular idea, ransom all chars with offensive names. You could get very rich from it but then I asked a GM and they said its not allowed to threat with petitions :(
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heheheh
Singularity.
The Cartel.
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Posted - 2007.04.13 22:31:00 -
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Quote:
To get that they should somewhat hack the character.
How did you come up with that then sherlock ?
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acompton
Gallente
Dark-Rising
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.04.13 22:43:00 -
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I read somewhere that if a character is transferred they wipe the employment history (don't know for sure , just read it somewhere here). So you may be dealing with a transferred toon.
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Mithrantir Ob'lontra
Gallente
Ixion Defence Systems
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.04.13 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: acompton
I read somewhere that if a character is transferred they wipe the employment history (don't know for sure , just read it somewhere here). So you may be dealing with a transferred toon.
This is not valid as far as i know. The history can't be erased, and in the circumstance of character transfer.
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Lord Slater
Amarr
Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.13 23:52:00 -
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I heard that if you erase your employment history a Dev angel dies.
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YYAARRHH HAHAHA IM THE HAPPY PIRATE
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MotoTsume
Gallente
Clan Black Scorpion
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Posted - 2007.04.14 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: MotoTsume on 14/04/2007 00:49:33
any character with a blank employment history was created before the employement history feature was
added to the game -(back in beta) and has been in the same corp since that time, as in not having left their
beta created corp. these are pretty old characters and probably very senior in their corps.
Opps LOL like Standard Deviation said
It's just a game........Or is it?????
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dor amwar
Occam's Razor Combine
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Posted - 2007.04.14 06:04:00 -
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not to hijack the thread, but could toons ever be a member of concord? saw a player with that in his employ history once,
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Venkul Mul
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.14 06:32:00 -
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Edited by: Venkul Mul on 14/04/2007 06:32:31
Edited by: Venkul Mul on 14/04/2007 06:32:17
Originally by: heheheh
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To get that they should somewhat hack the character.
How did you come up with that then sherlock ?
With something called "logic", follow the steps:
1) employement history record the corporations a player was in;
2) all players are, at least part of the starting corporation;
3) some player has no employement history;
4) at least some of them, to add, are part of a PC corporation, so must have at least 2 corporations in the history;
5) the chances of a bug cancelling only some players historyes are slim, it is possible a bug could have blocked the record of player history in specific periods, but at least in the last year it as always worked and the players in question seem (as it is not possible to check) to be of very variable age;
6) employement history is a useful tool for to evalutate a player capability, so delting it can be useful;
7) never seen posted information about it, but currently it is becoming more common.
So for all the above it seem a hack (modification of a third party program).
Some of the people posting here have suggested possible reasons, your post added noting intelligent.
to add to the points above:
What I find strange is the number seem to be increasing and some of them seem fairly joung in skill level (both impressions, a I obviously can't see the character true data).
That seem to rule out the "beta players in very old corp".
The sold characters seem more credible, but then a notice somewere in the knowledge base would be nice.
to add to the points above:
What I find strange is the number seem to be increasing and some of them seem fairly joung in skill level (both impressions, a I obviously can't see the character true data).
That seem to rule out the "beta players in very old corp".
The sold characters seem more credible, but then a notice somewere in the knowledge base would be nice.
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TriStar3x
Unscoped
Myriad Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.14 06:59:00 -
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As it has been said twice in the thread already, those are all old characters created before CCP introduce the newbie corps, this is not a speculation : it IS the very reason of these truncated/absent employment histories
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2007.04.14 07:14:00 -
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as you can see in my own case, employment history gets truncated if you switch out of your old "since release corp".
I petititioned it to get my "since 2003 history" back and the reply was that they are sorry but cant fix it.
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Hoshi
Blackguard Brigade
Phalanx Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.14 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: dor amwar
not to hijack the thread, but could toons ever be a member of concord? saw a player with that in his employ history once,
Yes they could, you could join any npc corp back then. One of the major reasons CCP removed this possibility was because lot of pirates joined concord and that broke continuity.
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Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.04.14 21:22:00 -
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A few bits of fact, if I may.
Noob corps have been around just as long as any character. There was no time "Before there were noob corps", nor was there a time "Before employment history". Though I have said that to folks in order to see if they believe me, as I do get asked about my history from time to time. But I've seen characters that have visible histories back to the day tranquility launched, with multiple changes of corps in those early days.
Myself, I originally started in Pator Tech School on the 2nd day of the server, after a few days I joined up with another corp for a couple weeks. That corp was disbanded, and I was booted into Brutor Tribe. A few days later, I started my own corp. For some reason, only my own corp shows in the history now. I don't know why, to be honest, but it is pretty cool.
Also, no character were carried over from Beta, none, zero, nada. All the beta accounts were deleted, and beta wasn't even on tranquility. If you see a history that goes back earlier than May 2003, or has corps that you normally can't join, it's probably a CCP account and not a player.
Now, for a character to show NO history at all, have you checked it again recently? Many times I have seen the database lag, and it takes 30-45 seconds for the history to show up. It may also be an event character, used by CCP, and not a normal player.
Though, like somebody else has mentioned, I have seen more and more young players with altered corp histories. That tells me that either there is a database problem, or somebody in is manipulating those accounts on purpose. Strangely, I seem to remember seeing a decent number of players in one of the smaller Goonswarm corps that all had altered corp histories.
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BH Runner
ISD BH
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.14 22:02:00 -
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Corp histories prior to a specific date are not logged. This date is back in 2003, July possibly the exact timing escapes me. In theory any alt created prior to this time and hasn't changed corps since will not display any corp history. Any alt created prior to this time and who has moved corps since the date will only show the history of movements since the logging date.
I believe the logging system that tracks corps was changed shortly after game launch, thus the discrepancy. If you are seeing someone without history, assume them either to be very very old, or the server to be lagging somewhat in providing you the details.
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Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.04.14 22:26:00 -
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Was it that the system was changed? Or that the data was lost?
I wonder if it's also related to how the first few months of the forums were also lost at some point, I never did remember seeing any official explanation of why they restarted all the forums.
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Reiisha
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.14 23:09:00 -
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Corp join and leave data was not collected before June 1st, 2003. Characters with no starting corp or no corp at all were in a corp before that date (check my history for example, i started may 14th, joined my first corp the same day - It doesn;t show up because of that).
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Reiisha
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.14 23:11:00 -
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Originally by: Siege
Now, for a character to show NO history at all, have you checked it again recently? Many times I have seen the database lag, and it takes 30-45 seconds for the history to show up. It may also be an event character, used by CCP, and not a normal player.
Someone with no history at all joined their current corp before june 1, 2003 - before employment history was recorded.
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Siege
Minmatar
Siegecraft Bounty Hunting
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Posted - 2007.04.14 23:22:00 -
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Makes sense to me, though I think the data cutoff may have been a bit later than June 1st. I vaguely remember being in Brutor Tribe for just a few days, maybe a week at most, and that doesn't show up on my history at all, but my current corp does.
The more I think about it, the more I am suspecting that the corp history and forum database were lost at the same, time, as the oldest posts I can find are June 28th, 2003. But I know for certain that forums were running right from day 1.
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Detrol
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.04.15 08:54:00 -
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ah that must be nice.
You've been around since 2003, never changed corp since then but if you did keep up with training your char, you could join a corp today, show up as ubernoob but still wtfpwn any pirate that tries to touch you.
Oh, must be nice 
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Fi T'Zeh
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.15 09:16:00 -
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I have no corp history.
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Jarnau Gurgeh
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Posted - 2007.04.15 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Nyana
You shouldn't petition this as an exploit, no.
My char* does have employment history, but it's cut off. According to it, my first corp was Deep Core Mining Inc., the NPC corp I end up in if I leave a player corp. All characters should have a newbie corp (school), but...
I petitioned this, just because I was curious, and got the response that my char was created before the newbie corps existed. I doubt it, TBH, but still.
* Not this char, my main account is inactive atm.
All Chars without History are BoD...
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Namingway
Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters
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Posted - 2007.04.15 20:01:00 -
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Originally by: acompton
I read somewhere that if a character is transferred they wipe the employment history (don't know for sure , just read it somewhere here). So you may be dealing with a transferred toon.
1, No, that's incorrect.
2, Don't ever call a character a toon.
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