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queen1121	Posted - 2007.04.15 13:08:00 - [1] The sleipnir... 7x 425mm II, gang mod mwd, t2 disruptor, L booster II, invul II, L extender 3x gyro, 2x pdu II(or speed mods) Everything fits, tanks good, does good dmg(530 dps with barrage, 20km falloff, 5km optimal) The absolution... 6x heavy pulse II, gang mod mwd, m. injector, 1x faint warp thingie 2x mar II, 2x eanm II, 3x db heat sink (or 1x db heat sink, heat sink II, dc) pg rig <- Nothing fits, tank okish, does dmg(540dps with scorch and 3x db heat sinks, optimal cca 23km) but needs cap charges, faction sh1t just to fit and slower, bigger, fatter... When can we expect slave army to liberate amarr ?
Ms Freak Amarr NCN Corp Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.04.15 13:43:00 - [2] I'll sign this: /signed My Absolution: 6 Mega Pulse II, Medium Dimi Nos 10MN AB II, Fleeting Web/T2 Scram (Missions/PvP), Medium Electro Chem 2 MAR II, 2 EANM II, 1 ETM II, 2 HS II 5 Hornet II Armour Rep Amount Rig, Armour Rep Duration Rig The DPS is OK (~480) and the tank is ok too but my corp mate with a Sleipnir just hands it to me. its a great looking ship and it fits ok it just has tthe fatal amarr flaws of serious cap issues and limited life span.
Donald Trump Minmatar Temptation inc. Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2007.04.15 13:51:00 - [3] Sleipnir's weakness is really the cap, I wouldnt go with a shield booster without a cap injector, atleast not with the gangmod. Run extendersetup if you dont want to use cap chargers. Out from those setups Id think the abso would win. And abuse your little dronebay for what its worth, use the drones that shall not be named. Regards, Donald Trump
Ryysa North Face Force Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.15 13:54:00 - [4] Originally by: Ms Freak I'll sign this: /signed My Absolution: 6 Mega Pulse II, Medium Dimi Nos Can I buy your incredible absolution with BS sized guns? N.F.F. Recruitment - Killboard Mirroring tool
queen1121	Posted - 2007.04.15 14:13:00 - [5] Edited by: queen1121 on 15/04/2007 14:10:21 Originally by: Donald Trump Sleipnir's weakness is really the cap, I wouldnt go with a shield booster without a cap injector, atleast not with the gangmod. Run extendersetup if you dont want to use cap chargers. Out from those setups Id think the abso would win. And abuse your little dronebay for what its worth, use the drones that shall not be named. Yeah I know that sleipnir's setup might not be optimal, but you have 2 slots for pdus and 2 rig slots left.But whatever else you fit(more extenders, more invuls), it uses less fitting(well apart from XL booster abominations, but ... ). Absolution has... nothing. Oh and as side note, tracking on pulses is horrible.
J Valkor Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.04.15 15:35:00 - [6] Fitting problems and low dps? If these things are such huge issues be glad you don't fly a Nighthawk.
Haniblecter Teg F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.04.15 16:18:00 - [7] AMARRs TANK, ITS WHAT THEY "DO". THEY DONT DO DAMAGE. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
Fon Revedhort Aeria Gloris Inc United Legion	Posted - 2007.04.15 16:49:00 - [8] That's the 18th mystical slot...
MOS DEF 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.04.15 16:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg AMARRs TANK, ITS WHAT THEY "DO". THEY DONT DO DAMAGE. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Try harder.
d'hofren Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2007.04.15 17:02:00 - [10] Edited by: d''hofren on 15/04/2007 16:58:12 You would want a injector on the sleip as well. Large booster and gang mod will eat your cap rather fast. Then you get the whole cap booster charges or ammo thing to deal with.
Zhaine Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.15 17:03:00 - [11] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg AMARRs TANK, ITS WHAT THEY "DO". THEY DONT DO DAMAGE. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Amarr are supposed to do lots of damage and tank well. What they don't do is med slots and E War. - - - - - - - - - - Give this a read.
Nerogk Shorn Caldari Royal Hiigaran Navy	Posted - 2007.04.15 17:06:00 - [12] I couldn't beat my friends absolution in my sleipnir, and I have a much better setup than the one you give. I couldn't beat it with my nighthawk either. If it doesn't work with how you fit it, umm fit it differently! D-F-A-A-B-A-A-S
king jks Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.04.15 17:07:00 - [13] Originally by: MOS DEF Originally by: Haniblecter Teg AMARRs TANK, ITS WHAT THEY "DO". THEY DONT DO DAMAGE. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Try harder. Lurk more. (//_-)
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.15 18:02:00 - [14] Originally by: queen1121 it uses less fitting(well apart from XL booster abominations, but ... <3 my XL abomination -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" Might As well Train Another Race
lofty29 Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.15 18:52:00 - [15] Originally by: d'hofren Edited by: d''hofren on 15/04/2007 16:58:12 You would want a injector on the sleip as well. Large booster and gang mod will eat your cap rather fast. Then you get the whole cap booster charges or ammo thing to deal with. Your sig's gon get nerfed! ---
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.04.15 18:58:00 - [16] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg AMARRs TANK, ITS WHAT THEY "DO". THEY DONT DO DAMAGE. DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Actualy what they do is damage. Trying to tank an amarran ship[except for one fitted with autocannons] for pvp is rather foolish. You cant out-dps ships in the short range and you barely out-tank them. Low DPS encounters gravitate towards the short range. Range is the amarran advantage, which means, since low DPS encounters gravitate towards the short range, in order to use that advantage they need to have as much damage as possible. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
smallgreenblur Minmatar Wreckless Abandon Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.04.15 19:17:00 - [17] Originally by: Nerogk Shorn I couldn't beat my friends absolution in my sleipnir, and I have a much better setup than the one you give. I couldn't beat it with my nighthawk either. If it doesn't work with how you fit it, umm fit it differently! What he said. sgb
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.04.15 19:58:00 - [18] Edited by: Goumindong on 15/04/2007 19:55:33 Originally by: smallgreenblur Originally by: Nerogk Shorn I couldn't beat my friends absolution in my sleipnir, and I have a much better setup than the one you give. I couldn't beat it with my nighthawk either. If it doesn't work with how you fit it, umm fit it differently! What he said. sgb To be honest, i dont think either of them can put out enough DPS to break the others tank alone, so the statement isnt quite so cut and dry. In terms of tank and gank, the Sliepnir beats the absolution. It has more damage, easier time fitting tank/gank due to it shield tanking[Which is also more efficient than armor tanking, +XL booster crazyness] and is much faster[10% before mass figuring into propulsion boost + doesnt need cap for guns], and has more guns and much better tracking.[+ falloff rigs]. The Absolution has a much better hit point buffer due to the resist bonus and stronger relative armor size. Slightly better range[from about 10km to 22km, after which the Sliepnir catches back up], can more easily fit EW without sacrificing tank and can apply its damage quicker than the Sliepnir can. The abso could use a small boost[like removing the cap use bonus, reducing cap use on lasers and then giving it a utility bonus like tracking( optimal would probably be too strong as much as i would like it)], but the difference is not so glaring as it is between the differences in other ship categories. ---------------------------------------- Thou Shalt "Pew Pew"
Namingway Important Yet Underrated Video Game Characters	Posted - 2007.04.15 20:14:00 - [19] Originally by: J Valkor Fitting problems and low dps? If these things are such huge issues be glad you don't fly a Nighthawk. QFT. Hamhawk is a nightmare to fit.
korrey Taurus Inc	Posted - 2007.04.15 20:43:00 - [20] High skilled Abso hits nearly the 625 DPS mark. Faction fitted Abso im sure could take the 700 prize. I dont fly sleipnirs, only Abso's but im fairly sure it out DPS's the sleip in almost every way. Granted thats using Conflag/Multi vs Barrage but most Pulse laser fighting is within 10km. ----------- 24.01.06 Small patch that addresses some minor balancing issues 1) All minmatar pilots have been deleted
lofty29 Athanasius Inc. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.15 20:59:00 - [21] Originally by: korrey High skilled Abso hits nearly the 625 DPS mark. Faction fitted Abso im sure could take the 700 prize. I dont fly sleipnirs, only Abso's but im fairly sure it out DPS's the sleip in almost every way. Granted thats using Conflag/Multi vs Barrage but most Pulse laser fighting is within 10km. Sleip gets a double damage bonus, so I'd doubt it. Though, I'm not entirely sure... Anyhow, astarte ftw - 1100 DPS gank fit ftw! --- Sig under maintainance
Wrayeth Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.04.15 21:09:00 - [22] Originally by: Namingway Originally by: J Valkor Fitting problems and low dps? If these things are such huge issues be glad you don't fly a Nighthawk. QFT. Hamhawk is a nightmare to fit. What these guys said. I have to run two RCU II's to fit a HAM setup on my nighthawk. Worse, I can't even fit a nos in the spare highslot - the fittings are that tight. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!" Might As well Train Another Race
Vicious Phoenix	Posted - 2007.04.15 22:13:00 - [23] Originally by: lofty29 Sleip gets a double damage bonus, so I'd doubt it. Though, I'm not entirely sure... I don't know which is more DPS, but I have heard that Tux balances projectiles with double damage bonuses factored in. CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too.
queen1121	Posted - 2007.04.15 22:33:00 - [24] Originally by: Wrayeth Originally by: Namingway Originally by: J Valkor Fitting problems and low dps? If these things are such huge issues be glad you don't fly a Nighthawk. QFT. Hamhawk is a nightmare to fit. What these guys said. I have to run two RCU II's to fit a HAM setup on my nighthawk. Worse, I can't even fit a nos in the spare highslot - the fittings are that tight. /emote flies all CS apart from minmatard ones. Caldari just kinda isn't suitable for small gang warefare. It pwns support though and has good tank. But honestly, I'd never fit ham on nighthawk. (low dps... 400dps with t1 heavyies is easy, compare that to beam abso or railastarte... just don't use mf or antimatter as base for comparison, it's unreal). Then again, I agree that nighthawk is kinnda useless addition to gangs, especially if you can fly rook.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.04.15 22:43:00 - [25] Originally by: lofty29 Originally by: korrey High skilled Abso hits nearly the 625 DPS mark. Faction fitted Abso im sure could take the 700 prize. I dont fly sleipnirs, only Abso's but im fairly sure it out DPS's the sleip in almost every way. Granted thats using Conflag/Multi vs Barrage but most Pulse laser fighting is within 10km. Sleip gets a double damage bonus, so I'd doubt it. Though, I'm not entirely sure... Anyhow, astarte ftw - 1100 DPS gank fit ftw! Gank astarte does 990dps with 3 ss dmg mods and maxed skills & implants + 150 from drones (120 if valkyII) Gank abso with 3x db/ts heat sinks does cca 775dps with conflag(7.5km optimal, hi blasters with sh1t tracking) + 5 light drones (80ish for hobgoblins II ) Gank sleipnir with 3x domi gyro & hail does 812 dps + drones(100ish, 3med 2light) Now there are few things to consider... 1. gank astarte with 3 dmg mods is quite rare, since you want dual rep on it (you can fit 1600mm plate & hope to gank them b4 you die or have remote but... ). Also no slot for gang link without losing gun, really sucks and main reason to going around in absolution. 2. gank abso... yes doable, but not all that great since you need faction hs to fit 3 or you lose gang mod which is quite a loss tbh. 3. gank sleipnir... no loss, you always fit 3 gyros and have 2 lows to play with, also slot for nosf or gang link(the magical +1 minmatar BC slot? ) -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
korrey Taurus Inc	Posted - 2007.04.16 01:43:00 - [26] For the record Absolution gets 2 damage bonuses also. RoF and Damage. Could someone do the calculations for 1 heatsink II with max skills and Heavy Pulse II's? I think mine is 500 give or take a bit. So sleip wins the damage game but for the most part Sleip pilots use Barrage no? Could be wrong, but my two corp mates use barrage to keep out of web range, so if someone could do the dps of Conflag vs barrage would be helpful. ----------- 24.01.06 Small patch that addresses some minor balancing issues 1) All minmatar pilots have been deleted
Vicious Phoenix	Posted - 2007.04.16 04:17:00 - [27] Edited by: Vicious Phoenix on 16/04/2007 04:14:04 Originally by: korrey So sleip wins the damage game but for the most part Sleip pilots use Barrage no? Could be wrong, but my two corp mates use barrage to keep out of web range, so if someone could do the dps of Conflag vs barrage would be helpful. And that's the whole point. Most (90%) of the time a Sleip is fighting in faloff, which if you orbit at 20km you only do ~half the damage you theoretically can do in optimal. On the other hand you don't see many speed fitted Absolutions, they just get in your face and let rip, leaving them to put out their full damage. CFW (Certified Forum Warrior) I kill people ingame too.
Wolverine PL Gallente ClanKillers Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.04.16 04:56:00 - [28] Originally by: queen1121 The sleipnir... 7x 425mm II, gang mod mwd, t2 disruptor, L booster II, invul II, L extender 3x gyro, 2x pdu II(or speed mods) Everything fits, tanks good, does good dmg(530 dps with barrage, 20km falloff, 5km optimal) The absolution... 6x heavy pulse II, gang mod mwd, m. injector, 1x faint warp thingie 2x mar II, 2x eanm II, 3x db heat sink (or 1x db heat sink, heat sink II, dc) pg rig <- Nothing fits, tank okish, does dmg(540dps with scorch and 3x db heat sinks, optimal cca 23km) but needs cap charges, faction sh1t just to fit and slower, bigger, fatter... When can we expect slave army to liberate amarr ? You arent using injector on slepnir (which makes my happy, I so often runnaway from them in my curse becouse they dont have more cap) but you use it on absolution :/ Not really good comparson.
mematar Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United Cult of War	Posted - 2007.04.16 05:23:00 - [29] Originally by: korrey High skilled Abso hits nearly the 625 DPS mark. Faction fitted Abso im sure could take the 700 prize. I dont fly sleipnirs, only Abso's but im fairly sure it out DPS's the sleip in almost every way. Granted thats using Conflag/Multi vs Barrage but most Pulse laser fighting is within 10km. I think my corpmates Abso hits 660-670, but he has CS 5 and Medium Pulse Spec 5 so :\| And my Sleipnir with Hail M does roughly 750 so meh.
queen1121	Posted - 2007.04.16 09:57:00 - [30] Originally by: Wolverine PL Originally by: queen1121 The sleipnir... 7x 425mm II, gang mod mwd, t2 disruptor, L booster II, invul II, L extender 3x gyro, 2x pdu II(or speed mods) Everything fits, tanks good, does good dmg(530 dps with barrage, 20km falloff, 5km optimal) The absolution... 6x heavy pulse II, gang mod mwd, m. injector, 1x faint warp thingie 2x mar II, 2x eanm II, 3x db heat sink (or 1x db heat sink, heat sink II, dc) pg rig <- Nothing fits, tank okish, does dmg(540dps with scorch and 3x db heat sinks, optimal cca 23km) but needs cap charges, faction sh1t just to fit and slower, bigger, fatter... When can we expect slave army to liberate amarr ? You arent using injector on slepnir (which makes my happy, I so often runnaway from them in my curse becouse they dont have more cap) but you use it on absolution :/ Not really good comparson. Apart from the fact that when you need cap injector on abso, it's mostly to run guns :D

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