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Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:01:00 - [1] First of all, I'd like to thank Mr. Blake for bringing up an important subject within the Sani Sabik Order. I'm here to speak about the system that will be implemented inside the perfect new order that the Universe will achieve under the supremacy of Sani Sabik leaders. Timeline A few weeks ago, during a meeting with an expert in Theology of Sister of Eve I was confronted with a very difficult decision: Knowledge in exchange of abolition of slavery. My decision was made according with levels of importance, obviously Knowledge was priority and so, it was time for me to release more than ten thousand slaves to the care of Sisters of Eve, and begin to quickly adapt to the new circumstance without damaging the order of my own business and activities dependent of this sort of labour. Risk Assessment The application of rapidly advancing fields of robotics, hardware engineering and biotechnology to recreate life or intelligence has always been one of the scientific focuses of Sani Sabik. There is a responsibility on the part of the Bloodveil Scientist and creator to ensure that the robot is programmed to act within the premises of the Apocrypha and the system of laws of the NWO of Sani Sabik. Developments: Scientists of Sani Sabik have used Heavy combat drones, changing their hard core and software programming to adapt these artificial intelligences to several other activities done previously by lower intelligences of sub- species named minmatars. Tests have shown positive in all manners. The impact of new technology on society Replacing people with robots have the following advantages: No vitoc No food No containers to keep livestock No noise No smell No rebellions New jobs in the information technology industry are created for the brighter minds. Programming: Three Laws of Robotics: A Sani Sabik robot: 1- May injure and eliminate a human being if the human element is considered or caught performing an act in disharmony or dissonance with the NWO. 2- Must obey orders given to him except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3- Must protect its own existence, as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. Conclusion and Statement: There is no doubt that this and other new technologies will have far-reaching - even revolutionary - impact on the way we live our everyday lives. Intelligent robots to maximize work productivity, expert systems to analyze massive amounts of data, and household drones to complete tasks and interaction- these are but a few of the potential applications that the Sani Sabik is already experiencing. Slavery is now, condemned by our Order as proven inefficient and unproductive. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:03:00 - [2] I imagine that a robot could churn out Sani Sabik press releases faster than you, and probably make more sense as well. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:08:00 - [3] Originally by: Rodj Blake I imagine that a robot could churn out Sani Sabik press releases faster than you, and probably make more sense as well. I'd like to request a scan of your mind core to produce a drone who can bump threads within a few seconds of it's creation. It's certainly the only core of your existance. Thank you. As per other posts, I'll answer questions pertinent to the thread of intelligent content. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:14:00 - [4] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/04/2007 12:11:13 Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/04/2007 12:10:02 Originally by: Revan Neferis Three Laws of Robotics: A Sani Sabik robot: 1- May injure and eliminate a human being if the human element is considered or caught performing an act in disharmony or dissonance with the NWO. Given the flip-flopping history of the Bloodveil leadership, isn't this a dangerous law for you to implement? For example, one of your robots may read your recent comment condemning slavery, compare it to your earlier comments supporting slavery, and then decide that that it is you who is the one acting in disharmony or dissonance with this so-called NWO. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:18:00 - [5] Originally by: Rodj Blake isn't this a dangerous law for you to implement? Don't worry. A Sani Sabik drone is not programmed with the memetic contagious factor of ignorance by stating that the Universe is static. A central control will update all core intelligences as the world evolves and adapts to their needs of each user. As I said, changes are welcome as evolution are welcome. The primitive stagnation ideal is your sickness not mine. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
IzzyChan Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:18:00 - [6] Re-programming a few drones won't instantly make it the perfect loyal workhorse, Revan. It takes years of re-creation and intensive programming to make a bot suitable for just simple tasks. The sky's the limit once you sucessfully mix man with machine, tho. --------------------
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake I imagine that a robot could churn out Sani Sabik press releases faster than you, and probably make more sense as well. I'd like to request a scan of your mind core to produce a drone who can bump threads within a few seconds of it's creation. It's certainly the only core of your existance. Thank you. As per other posts, I'll answer questions pertinent to the thread of intelligent content. Actually, it was a serious point. If manual workers can be replaced with robots, what's to stop less menial ones also being replaced? Since you've decided that efficiency is of paramount concern here, pointing our that a robot probably could do your job more efficiently is perfectly valid. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:23:00 - [8] Edited by: Rodj Blake on 16/04/2007 12:20:04 Originally by: Revan Neferis The primitive stagnation ideal is your sickness not mine. That would be why, back when you claimed to be a Tetrimon supporter as vehemently as you claim to be a blooder now, I was constantly referred to as a reform-minded liberal by you and your associates. And I recall that when you shouted loudly that you were a Sarum supporter, you made claims that I was abandoning traditions. My, you have evolved. Personally, I'll take my intelligently designed worldview over yours any day of the week. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Rodj Blake Since you've decided that efficiency is of paramount concern here, pointing our that a robot probably could do your job more efficiently is perfectly valid. Read the subject... read the text. The replacemnt of slaves by robots is indeed all about your arguments... That ends here. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:34:00 - [10] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake Since you've decided that efficiency is of paramount concern here, pointing our that a robot probably could do your job more efficiently is perfectly valid. Read the subject... read the text. The replacemnt of slaves by robots is indeed all about your arguments... That ends here. We are all slaves to something. I am a slave to God and to the Empire. You are a slave to your internal demons and to Martini. And the logical conclusion to your argument that all manual work slaves can be replaced with robots is that everyone can be replaced. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:37:00 - [11] Originally by: IzzyChan Re-programming a few drones won't instantly make it the perfect loyal workhorse, Revan. It takes years of re-creation and intensive programming to make a bot suitable for just simple tasks. The sky's the limit once you sucessfully mix man with machine, tho. Greetings As explained, tests are being performed within the Sani Sabik Order and due to an urgent request of my part. All my slaves are replaced by the units here stated and the results shows extreme profitability. A large scale implementation would involve Universities, Academics and High tech producers as well military and Governmental entities. It can and will be done, everything on it's due time. Regards. Lady Neferis "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
IzzyChan Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:41:00 - [12] Originally by: Revan Neferis Greetings As explained, tests are being performed within the Sani Sabik Order and due to an urgent request of my part. All my slaves are replaced by the units here stated and the results shows extreme profitability. A large scale implementation would involve Universities, Academics and High tech producers as well military and Governmental entities. It can and will be done, everything on it's due time. Regards. Lady Neferis Actually Revan, there are a few factions already out there building the tech you just "discovered." Why rediscover something someone already made ages ago? Seems like a waste of money and time to me. --------------------
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:45:00 - [13] Originally by: Revan Neferis Replacing people with robots have the following advantages: No vitoc No food No containers to keep livestock No noise No smell No rebellions New jobs in the information technology industry are created for the brighter minds. On the other hand... Robots may not need Vitoc, but they do require programming. Robots may not need food, but they do require energy. Robots do take up space. Robot often do make noise. Well-kept slaves don't smell. Robots do rebel - have you never heard of rogue drones? Old jobs in the slave development industry (often occupied for brighter minds) are destroyed. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:45:00 - [14] Originally by: IzzyChan Originally by: Revan Neferis Actually Revan, there are a few factions already out there building the tech you just "discovered." There is nothing being discovered but adapted from an existing technology. And Your information is new to me, at any case, I'm glad if other institutions are already programming drones for replacement of slaves with core Sani Sabik ideologies. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:47:00 - [15] Originally by: Rodj Blake On the other hand... Robots may not need Vitoc, but they do require programming. Robots may not need food, but they do require energy. Robots do take up space. Robot often do make noise. Well-kept slaves don't smell. Robots do rebel - have you never heard of rogue drones? Old jobs in the slave development industry (often occupied for brighter minds) are destroyed. Sani Sabik drones are not defective as the ones you suggest PIE would produce Mr. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
IzzyChan Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:51:00 - [16] Originally by: Revan Neferis There is nothing being discovered but adapted from an existing technology. And Your information is new to me, at any case, I'm glad if other institutions are already programming drones for replacement of slaves with core Sani Sabik ideologies. What... it's new to you? Hate to say this bluntly but have you been living under a rock? We've been here building this technology you speak of for about a century now. Hahaha Revan, you're so silly. --------------------
Rodj Blake Amarr PIE Inc.	Posted - 2007.04.16 12:52:00 - [17] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: Rodj Blake On the other hand... Robots may not need Vitoc, but they do require programming. Robots may not need food, but they do require energy. Robots do take up space. Robot often do make noise. Well-kept slaves don't smell. Robots do rebel - have you never heard of rogue drones? Old jobs in the slave development industry (often occupied for brighter minds) are destroyed. Sani Sabik drones are not defective as the ones you suggest PIE would produce Mr. I suppose to make them so good, you'll be getting drones to make them? Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 13:01:00 - [18] Originally by: IzzyChan What... it's new to you? Hate to say this bluntly but have you been living under a rock? We've been here building this technology you speak of for about a century now. Would you care to share with the public the company that is developing drones with Sani Sabik core programming ? "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
IzzyChan Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.16 13:10:00 - [19] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: IzzyChan What... it's new to you? Hate to say this bluntly but have you been living under a rock? We've been here building this technology you speak of for about a century now. Would you care to share with the public the company that is developing drones with Sani Sabik core programming ? It's not called Sani programming, chika. It's Sansha's technology. We've been developing things for ages, can't believe you never heard of us. --------------------
Leon 026 Caldari Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.16 14:32:00 - [20] Lady Neferis, perhaps if you had been more involved with our quote-on-quote "black" research that was being conducted within the Sani'khal Vecna (or however you spell it) with our close association with the True Core corporation during our limited stay in Stain, you may have been able to build up the necessary connections to view the extensive Sansha laboratories and cloning labs. Although now that Dr. Tenebrae seems to have joined with the fractionites, you may be able to pursuade her to trade parts of your biomass to further her research in return for information (however limited) that members of True Core shared with us during our short partnership between the Blood Inquisition and True Core prior to the incident involving AIL and internal Stain conflict. I will warn you however, that Dr. Tenebrae is a hard bargainer, and you may just end up trading a lobotomy for interesting tidbits. ------- Leon 026 Once I was fallen, now I have wings
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 14:57:00 - [21] Originally by: Leon 026 Lady Neferis, perhaps if you had been more involved with our quote-on-quote "black" research that was being conducted within the Sani'khal Vecna (or however you spell it) with our close association with the True Core corporation during our limited stay in Stain, you may have been able to build up the necessary connections to view the extensive Sansha laboratories and cloning labs. Although now that Dr. Tenebrae seems to have joined with the fractionites, you may be able to pursuade her to trade parts of your biomass to further her research in return for information (however limited) that members of True Core shared with us during our short partnership between the Blood Inquisition and True Core prior to the incident involving AIL and internal Stain conflict. I will warn you however, that Dr. Tenebrae is a hard bargainer, and you may just end up trading a lobotomy for interesting tidbits. Now that's very interesting Leon. I do remember a few lines about the research started at Sani Khal' Vecna, and yes, it happened in a turbulent time. I'm certainly interested to hear what Doctor Tenebrae have kept from it. Regards Lady Neferis "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Ostos Marek	Posted - 2007.04.16 16:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Revan Neferis Originally by: IzzyChan Re-programming a few drones won't instantly make it the perfect loyal workhorse, Revan. It takes years of re-creation and intensive programming to make a bot suitable for just simple tasks. The sky's the limit once you sucessfully mix man with machine, tho. Greetings As explained, tests are being performed within the Sani Sabik Order and due to an urgent request of my part. All my slaves are replaced by the units here stated and the results shows extreme profitability. A large scale implementation would involve Universities, Academics and High tech producers as well military and Governmental entities. It can and will be done, everything on it's due time. Regards. Lady Neferis You miss the entire reason behind slavery, Revan. True it does profit the slave holder, and yes your robots may be 1000% times more efficient. Efficiency is not the point. The point is to mold the slave through hardship, discipline, self sacrifice, and service to God; so that they will become in touch with Him and grow into, eventually, free faithful citizens. Yes, they need to support themselves and their holders to some extent, but again profit is not the point. Being Amarr you should have learned this as a toddler. We are recruiting!
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.16 16:42:00 - [23] Originally by: Ostos Marek You miss the entire reason behind slavery, Revan. True it does profit the slave holder, and yes your robots may be 1000% times more efficient. Efficiency is not the point. The point is to mold the slave through hardship, discipline, self sacrifice, and service to God; so that they will become in touch with Him and grow into, eventually, free faithful citizens. Yes, they need to support themselves and their holders to some extent, but again profit is not the point. Being Amarr you should have learned this as a toddler. I answer to no God, I'm free from excuses to give a subjective entity the responsibility for my actions. The only God I answer to, is me. "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Vlad Cetes Caldari Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2007.04.16 21:20:00 - [24] God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. You point at a dead being and say we should follow hs so called "teachings". The only absolute truths are those of physics and survival of the fittest. This sig is secured by Chuck Norris. Don't mess with the man!
Tomahawk Bliss INTAKI UNION The OSS	Posted - 2007.04.16 21:39:00 - [25] guess we can't call you a blood raider anymore, since they are slavers. well this is good news, a society of one is much less of a threat than the entire blood covenant. and as a point of note, the drones that have gone mad were not intended too. your robots might as well, and considering the builder is already quite mad I doubt insanity hasn't already found its way into their matrix. Gogo Yubari> You can't destroy your enemy with the power of thought alone like many forum-warriors seem to think. GLBTA Channel
Lord Artemis Filthy Wyrm Chaos Incarnate.	Posted - 2007.04.16 22:02:00 - [26] I, for one, welcome Sani Sabik's new robot overlords and wish them success in erradicating the entire organization. The fact that you feel you will be able to completely control and predict a possible "turning against the masters" of these metallic nightmares shows great arrogance and ignorance. When it does occur it is usually too late. The previous rogue drones example is the history, and you doom yourself to repeat it. _____________________________ Public Health Advisory - Say NO to OOC!
IzzyChan Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.16 22:56:00 - [27] Originally by: Lord Artemis I, for one, welcome Sani Sabik's new robot overlords and wish them success in erradicating the entire organization. The fact that you feel you will be able to completely control and predict a possible "turning against the masters" of these metallic nightmares shows great arrogance and ignorance. When it does occur it is usually too late. The previous rogue drones example is the history, and you doom yourself to repeat it. Hardly. I doubt they have the ability to make a drone as comlpex as the ones that went rogue since the little Sani docs are just starting off into this kinda thing. The worst that could happen is one of their new cleaning drones malfuncions into a spring cleaning frenzy, destroying everything in it's path. (It's happened to me a few times, I just learn to live messy now.) --------------------
Mebrithiel Ju'wien Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.04.17 00:07:00 - [28] Originally by: IzzyChan The worst that could happen is one of their new cleaning drones malfuncions into a spring cleaning frenzy, destroying everything in it's path. (It's happened to me a few times, I just learn to live messy now.) I've seen your place, it's a tip alright Izzeh Revan has taken a tough path in replacing perfectly working mortals with low-level robotics, but the sacrifice sounds worthy of the prize of knowledge. Tbh, I say let people who know their stuff, like Izzy, tinker with the details while biomass management, like myself, cover the big picture. Now THAT'S perfect symbiosis. Good girls go to Heaven. Bad girls get drunk and pew pew in Delve.
Revan Neferis Amarr Bloodveil The Sani Sabik	Posted - 2007.04.17 05:08:00 - [29] Originally by: Mebrithiel Ju'wien Revan has taken a tough path in replacing perfectly working mortals with low-level robotics, but the sacrifice sounds worthy of the prize of knowledge. It was a difficult decision, but yes Meb, the sacrifice will be worthy the price. Be well my friend. Lady Neferis "One must still have chaos in oneself to give birth to a dancing Star"
Ostos Marek	Posted - 2007.04.17 21:04:00 - [30] Edited by: Ostos Marek on 17/04/2007 21:03:20 Originally by: Vlad Cetes God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. You point at a dead being and say we should follow hs so called "teachings". The only absolute truths are those of physics and survival of the fittest. Looks around.... Riiiiight. Physics is not an abosolute science and neither is survival of the fittest. Physics: jumping down into quantum physics and mechanics delves up many many more conundrums where there aren't absolute truths. Survival of the fittest: explain then why the strong die in wars and the weak live on? I guess that's what I should have expected from this wing of the IGS. We are recruiting!

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