The second someone hears you are a indy spec corp *bam* multiple war decs. ive seen new corps trying to recruit and be in war decs 24/7 after starting.

There is no amount of isk you can pay a bunch of pvpers to guard you

Why is it unrealistic to have a combat wing? What about mission runners in your corp?

And so it should be in a competitive, open-world game like Eve Online. If you announce to the world you are not going to spend any effort or resources on defence, someone should call you on that and try to take your stuff. Why should you get to devote your efforts 100% to resource generation while I have to spend time, resources and effort providing from my own protection, especially if I can take what you have?

As of the OP, the suggestion seems a little convoluted. All it does is essentially codify the current common practice of using out-of-corp haulers and miners, but at the cost of making two tiers of corps and forcing development of a yet another new special set of engagement rules for highsec. Highsec aggression mechanics are already too complex and hard to understand so I am not sure we need more special cases and exceptions.

There is also the grey area of 'what is an industrial ship?' where I see no easy solution to given some industrial ships do PvP extremely well and non-industrial ships can transport things and fit mining lasers.

If you are going to make another tier of corp or social group, I prefer the 'corp-lite' or the 'societies'. Let players either form a non-corp social group from within the NPC corps, or be able to create their own NPC corp-equivalent player corporations that have all the restrictions of the current NPC corp. Neither of these would grossly change how the current mechanics work but would give some space for players more interested in the social element of the game rather than being competitive.

The idea essentially is to give corp / alliance access to a group that realistically cannot at the moment.

So what's the downside?

They cannot wardec anyone or officially be associated with anyone or any group that does. This is basically the same benefit they get for being in an industrial corp.

it's people like you that give indi corps this "victim" rep. perma war decs really are not that big of an issue so long as you have good leadership. I ran an indi alliance for years and it was rare that we went more than 1 month with out being at war. yet aside from a few newbros losing newbro stuff it hardly effected us at all. We knew how to tell a targeted dec from a random one. We knew how to tell hunters from hub humpers and we knew how to act accordingly. if you are having issues you need a change in leadership. there are areas you can mine that are just to far for most hunters to go and there is no reason to go to a hub with an in corp alt.



as for this idea i like it better than social corps BUT these corps must also not be allowed to anchor any corp structure (i don't even want corp anchored bubbles)

Why is it unrealistic to have a combat wing? What about mission runners in your corp?

How would they mission run and also be protecting ships 23/7 ?

I prefer solution the other way. Make corps cost (flat X M/month), so it has some value to be in a larger 20+ member industrial corp than to have 20 corps with 1 member each, only sharing comms and being blue to each other. Double members = half the cost per member. But a much nicer target. Want to be safer or more cost efficient? You can't have both.
And to fix NPC corp alts, make those corps and even factions wardec each other every now and then, so you don't have perfect safety even then.
And to fix industrials that only sit in stations in total safety, make NPC stations not viable and perhaps even destructible in the wars mentioned above. They can still sit in player stations, but those might explode.

Problem solved. In a way you probably do not like :)

(and yes, this is my current main, which runs an alt corp.)

Roughly the same way everyone else does it?

You don't sit there and guard them 23/7. Everyone pays attention, reports intel, and drops what they're doing to form a response fleet when it's warranted.

Stop acting like anything that requires you to be even half awake is unduly burdensome.

Certain alliances are going to make sure that you cannot effectively operate hauling in highsec space,

Making large corps so they can be wardeced isnt going to be cheaper it will be more expensive when your members are dying 23/7. This is the problem only now on steroids.

What need to station traders have for my suggestion, absolutely zero.

Currently some white-knights do form up and protect any indy ship in distress if they can, i have tried to do so before myself. But if you have 500 people in indys flying around highsec space the dec mechanic will destroy you period, not maybe, it will happen since the dec corp makes a LOT of money killing you, while your group loses money because they make almost nothing killing their attacking dec corp. The financial realities are what make this not work and why most haulers are in NPC or one-man corps at the moment.

They cannot wardec anyone or officially be associated with anyone or any group that does. This is basically the same benefit they get for being in an industrial corp.

what you want is all the benefit of being in a corp with none of the risk. that's not how eve works

Currently some white-knights do form up and protect any indy ship in distress if they can, i have tried to do so before myself. But if you have 500 people in indys flying around highsec space the dec mechanic will destroy you period, not maybe, it will happen since the dec corp makes a LOT of money killing you, while your group loses money because they make almost nothing killing their attacking dec corp. The financial realities are what make this not work and why most haulers are in NPC or one-man corps at the moment.

while im willing to discuss counter-points of view, if your point is nothing more than mouthing off sarcastically dont expect a response from me.

How would they mission run and also be protecting ships 23/7 ?

To be fair, this sounds eerily familiar to how wardecs currently work. Zero risk.

there is still risk. WT are easy to trap and they tend to fly bling ships for some reason

The main difference between the current wardec mechanics and this proposal is that it isn't the wardec mechanics that limit the risk, it's the players.

This proposal involves eliminating risk from the game right in the mechanics themselves, with unfortunately no real downsides to balance that low risk.

station mechanics remove a lot of the risk in war dec. I wish they worked like citadels if you are pointed/scrammed no docking