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IRS Informant
Income Redistribution Service
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Posted - 2007.04.18 16:58:00 -
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 Originally by: unruly handbag
Just to rub it in, I jumped back through and then through again... and they failed each time 
And yet, people will still whine that their hauler filled with tons of expensive loot wasn't given the option of a ransom.. Perhaps stabbed up haulers are the reason they are KOS at gates??.. Hesitate for a moment and the hauler is gone.. One-volley instapop and the wreckage doesn't warp..
Originally by: Napolie
Get More lachises!!!
Yeah, you go ahead and put that Recon on a gate with sentry gun aggro..
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William DeMeo
Gallente
Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:33:00 -
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if you stab your way out of a gatecamp everyone has the right to scream WTF in local. Including people who are not camping or not even close to the system.
WTF!
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WYLEE C0Y0TE
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.18 17:50:00 -
[33]
Originally by: William DeMeo
if you stab your way out of a gatecamp everyone has the right to scream WTF in local. Including people who are not camping or not even close to the system.
WTF!
/me thinks someone hasn't brought enough scram points to a gatecamp before
You're right, using mods for their intended purpose is just plain wrong. From now on, when gatecamping, all sniping BSs shall fit sensor damps, tacklers shall be equiped with energy transfer arrays, drone ships shall be fitted with armor rep drones, and any other ships present shall have shield transfer arrays.
Only then can we truly cry "WTF" and mean it!!!
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif
If it's personal, it's because of you.
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Nidhoggur
The Movement
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:17:00 -
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Hmm.
A plea for attention, or some kind of way to 'Strike back' at the pirates, which you could never really manage to do in game?
Either way, you fitted stabs on an industrial. Congratulations, you've showed a modicum of common sense.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.18 18:36:00 -
[35]
Originally by: WYLEE C0Y0TE
Originally by: William DeMeo
if you stab your way out of a gatecamp everyone has the right to scream WTF in local. Including people who are not camping or not even close to the system.
WTF!
/me thinks someone hasn't brought enough scram points to a gatecamp before
You're right, using mods for their intended purpose is just plain wrong. From now on, when gatecamping, all sniping BSs shall fit sensor damps, tacklers shall be equiped with energy transfer arrays, drone ships shall be fitted with armor rep drones, and any other ships present shall have shield transfer arrays.
Only then can we truly cry "WTF" and mean it!!!
People purposefully avoiding pvp in combat ships will always get "wtf" in local from me. Occasionally, industrial ships, with stabs, will get a "wtf" from me in local.
Stabs, even with the nerf, are the most abused game breaking module in the game, imo.
Similarly, when nano's were over powered, every jack*** in a nanophoon would get a chorus of "wtf"s in local, even though they were "fitting modules" appropriately. This is because nano pilots were using unbalanced modules to avoid any sort of meaningful pvp.
-Karl
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Petrothian Tong
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.18 19:32:00 -
[36]
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wow.. didnt expect the
"you must stay and fight (even when you dont have guns" attitude is still strong within eve..
I wonder how much my kessie with I.Stab that is fitted for running away would **** off gat campers.. lol
-Siggi-
""PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale." Oveur |
NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.18 19:40:00 -
[37]
One little bump would have ruined your day. 
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Petrothian Tong
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.18 19:42:00 -
[38]
Edited by: Petrothian Tong on 18/04/2007 19:40:09
Originally by: NATMav
One little bump would have ruined your day.
hehe, true.. I managed to get an kessie down to 2 to 3 sec align though.....
but yeah now a days I use me covet ops with cloak =P
edit: but yeah I am surprised the OP wasnt bumped too,
I mean, he been though the camp twice.. figure the camp would bring an tackler..
-Siggi-
""PvP" isn't only direct person to person combat, it can be very indirect. Selling an item on the market which somebody buys from you is resulting in another guy not getting a sale." Oveur |
Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.18 19:54:00 -
[39]
Originally by: Petrothian Tong
......
wow.. didnt expect the
"you must stay and fight (even when you dont have guns" attitude is still strong within eve..
I wonder how much my kessie with I.Stab that is fitted for running away would **** off gat campers.. lol
I never, ever stated that he should stay and fight. I simply said he shouldn't be shocked by a "wtf"
-K
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Donna Maria
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Posted - 2007.04.18 19:54:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: unruly handbag
Ok,
I'm like doing a route via 0.4 sec, and of course the gate is camped, lucky for me i had like 5 warp stabs fitted, and they failed to scramble me. I'm then flooded with WTF's. Do ppl think they have the right just to sit there and kill everything that go through a gate, and get up set when stuff get by them.
Just to rub it in, I jumped back through and then through again... and they failed each time
just that they thought it was their right cause i jump to blow me and my 400m2 cargo up!
If you were flying a combat ship, they have every right to "wtf" you. Its really quite pathetic to fly through low sec, all stabed to death... especially if you are in a BS and you "escape" (run) from a fight that would have been close.
Now granted, if you are really talking about a gate "camp" (more than three guys) they shouldn't really complain to much. I say this, because, while I have gate camped in the past, I consider blobing individual ships on gates to be just as pathetic as fitting 5 stabs to your BS.
Also, in the future, I'd avoid "rubbing" it in their face. You are very lucky someone didn't dock and fit an inty or two with ALL 2 point scrams. There is nothing quote as satisfyin as catching the ***hat who flys around a system all stabbed out to "rub it in the face" of pirates.
-Karl
You are crazy, If I fit a Warp Stab to my Battleship, guess what, its My battleship. Catch me if can..
Hate me all you like.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.18 19:59:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Donna Maria
Originally by: Karlemgne
Originally by: unruly handbag
Ok,
I'm like doing a route via 0.4 sec, and of course the gate is camped, lucky for me i had like 5 warp stabs fitted, and they failed to scramble me. I'm then flooded with WTF's. Do ppl think they have the right just to sit there and kill everything that go through a gate, and get up set when stuff get by them.
Just to rub it in, I jumped back through and then through again... and they failed each time
just that they thought it was their right cause i jump to blow me and my 400m2 cargo up!
If you were flying a combat ship, they have every right to "wtf" you. Its really quite pathetic to fly through low sec, all stabed to death... especially if you are in a BS and you "escape" (run) from a fight that would have been close.
Now granted, if you are really talking about a gate "camp" (more than three guys) they shouldn't really complain to much. I say this, because, while I have gate camped in the past, I consider blobing individual ships on gates to be just as pathetic as fitting 5 stabs to your BS.
Also, in the future, I'd avoid "rubbing" it in their face. You are very lucky someone didn't dock and fit an inty or two with ALL 2 point scrams. There is nothing quote as satisfyin as catching the ***hat who flys around a system all stabbed out to "rub it in the face" of pirates.
-Karl
You are crazy, If I fit a Warp Stab to my Battleship, guess what, its My battleship. Catch me if can..
Hate me all you like.
That's fine, but expect those of us who pvp for a living to "wtf" you in local. When that happens, don't come whining to the forums. The "wtf" in local is a legitimate statement regarding our opinion of your chosen "play" style.
-Karl
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |
Donna Maria
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:16:00 -
[42]
Blah blah .. Whining about Warp Stabs... LOL ..
Whats next.. Whining about sensor damps?
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari
Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:37:00 -
[43]
whiskey tango foxtrot?
the WCS is the most abused thing in the game? WHAT!?!?!
at the VERY BEST it lets whever is flying keep their ship, and you to keep yours, you can't effectively compre it with Nanoships because a nanoship was nearly impossible to beat in its prime, these are just tough to catch (but easy as hell to kill and with no tank(not even a speed tank ala nano).
if someone is transporting something from point A to point B and they're willing to use a WCS or a zillion to actually get there, i call it logic and reason, not abusing game mecchanics. and yes, that includes a ship that CAN be used for pvp.
i 0.0 rat from time to time, and did so just today, coming into lowsec i ran into a blasterthon who targetted me(27km) what did i do? i ran away with my tail between my legs because he was fitted to PvP, i was fitted to rat. I just haven't got the DPS to break a (PC)BS tank with my ratting BC.
basically what i'm trying to say is that if someone is fitting for PvP, a WCS isn't a good idea for obvious reasons, but this guy clearly wasn't PvP fitted with a bunch of WCS on him, he was fitted for travel.(and looking at the OP edit, in an indo!)
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dennyreborn
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:04:00 -
[44]
you should have replied to the WTFs and say
" I am sorry i was on auto pilot did i not say hi to you in a system i passed through or something"
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:07:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Grim Fantago
Now just dont cry about how big some camps are... You fit 5-7 stabs, we bring 5-10 ppl to compensate (lets say 3 lachesiseseses and couple bs to add dmg and remote reps).
You make a good point about having large camps.
On a more general note, sure you can WTF all you want but it only makes sense to use stabs for travel, WTFing at that is like WTFing when a Kestrel uses missiles...
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Cheyenne Shadowborn
Caldari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H.
E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.19 08:48:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Cheyenne Shadowborn on 19/04/2007 08:46:43
Originally by: unruly handbag
Just to rub it in, I jumped back through and then through again... and they failed each time
Got the same speech about no honor and stuff when up to four people engaged my Caracal several times over about an hour and didn't scramble it. I had one point of stab strength in the ship - and I don't think its dishonorable that I use the modules in the game to gimp the combat strength of my puny ship in favour of somewhat choosing my battles.
After all I fly solo and NOT fighting a BC and three other ships in a Caracal with fittings worth no more than 400k is the only sane choice.
Flame away 
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:02:00 -
[47]
imo if you fit stabs to a combat ship you may get a WTF from me because it obviously means you're so scared of losing a ship that you'd rather make it pretty rubbish in pvp rather than risk losing it.
if you're travel fit for hauling or just moving etc then i have no problem with ppl fitting every single low slot with stabs. that's what they're desgined for.
DE
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:32:00 -
[48]
Originally by: DarkElf
imo if you fit stabs to a combat ship you may get a WTF from me because it obviously means you're so scared of losing a ship that you'd rather make it pretty rubbish in pvp rather than risk losing it.
if you're travel fit for hauling or just moving etc then i have no problem with ppl fitting every single low slot with stabs. that's what they're desgined for.
DE
QFT
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Ezram Iena
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Posted - 2007.04.19 10:53:00 -
[49]
Originally by: DarkElf
imo if you fit stabs to a combat ship you may get a WTF from me because it obviously means you're so scared of losing a ship that you'd rather make it pretty rubbish in pvp rather than risk losing it.
if you're travel fit for hauling or just moving etc then i have no problem with ppl fitting every single low slot with stabs. that's what they're desgined for.
DE
This attitude gets a big WTF from me.
Why do you think you have the right to WTF anyone for his choice of fittings? How the F*** do you know why he has put stabs on his BS? And even if you're right - so what?
Sure, we can all go WTF at every single thing we don't like or wouldn't have done ourselves, that leads to nothing but flamefests. But hey, maybe that's what you all enjoy in here, this forum certainly is full of them.
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ry ry
StateCorp
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:08:00 -
[50]
Nobody is allowed to wear green jumpers anymore.
anybody wearing a green jumper is a noob, and will be shouted at.
however, its okay to wear a green jumper on a bus or a train.
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:18:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Ezram Iena
Originally by: DarkElf
imo if you fit stabs to a combat ship you may get a WTF from me because it obviously means you're so scared of losing a ship that you'd rather make it pretty rubbish in pvp rather than risk losing it.
if you're travel fit for hauling or just moving etc then i have no problem with ppl fitting every single low slot with stabs. that's what they're desgined for.
DE
This attitude gets a big WTF from me.
Why do you think you have the right to WTF anyone for his choice of fittings? How the F*** do you know why he has put stabs on his BS? And even if you're right - so what?
Sure, we can all go WTF at every single thing we don't like or wouldn't have done ourselves, that leads to nothing but flamefests. But hey, maybe that's what you all enjoy in here, this forum certainly is full of them.
Well there you go, maybe you wouldn't have said it but why WTF him for saying it? It's his choice of words.
In all seriousness though, we aren't necessarily going to flame and smack if someone fits a stab on a combat ship, for combat. We're just going to say "wtf?" because:
1) It doesn't make any sense.
2) You're showing you haven't got the guts to risk your ship but you still want to fight.
I could come up with examples as to why each role of ship is gimped by a stab, but I think the fact that it cuts your lock range and time in half makes it quite obvious.
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Jaags
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:29:00 -
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Originally by: Mighty Dread
Yeah let's clear this up for all the foaming at the mouth pirates out there:
Industrials aren't ingame just for you to stroke your Epeen against. We don't have much of a tank compared to combat ships (because you know...Industrials are so tiny-tiny there is no room for an extra low or mid...right CCP?) and we aint got no guns to fight so we are ALWAYS....wait for it...ALWAYS gonna run from a fight.
But really...an Industrial ship on your killboard? That's like stuffing and mounting a rabbit in your den. Juuuuust doesn't look as impressive as the grizzly bear or the 20 ft great white shark.
Yeah, but when you're chasing a Transport, yes a Crane with its lows spammed with warp core stabs and you finally must enough points to scram him down and he pops, its worth it.
Never mind a grizzly bear, its as fearsome as your mother-in-law.
T2 Industrials + stabs = 7 Points on a Crane = GANKED, and he couldnt believe it easier.
MWD may or may not have helped briefly 
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DarkElf
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:53:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Ezram Iena
Originally by: DarkElf
imo if you fit stabs to a combat ship you may get a WTF from me because it obviously means you're so scared of losing a ship that you'd rather make it pretty rubbish in pvp rather than risk losing it.
if you're travel fit for hauling or just moving etc then i have no problem with ppl fitting every single low slot with stabs. that's what they're desgined for.
DE
This attitude gets a big WTF from me.
Why do you think you have the right to WTF anyone for his choice of fittings? How the F*** do you know why he has put stabs on his BS? And even if you're right - so what?
Sure, we can all go WTF at every single thing we don't like or wouldn't have done ourselves, that leads to nothing but flamefests. But hey, maybe that's what you all enjoy in here, this forum certainly is full of them.
let me repeat what i said. the WTF from me would be the utter surprise from me that someone is so afraid of losing a ship that they are willing to heavily negatively affect their ship's combat ability just to give them a chance that they may get away. If i go out in combat i fit my ship to be the best i possibly can so i can defeat my opponents or if i do die then i know i did the best i could. the only time i could see me running is if i get blobbed and if i do get blobbed then they will probably have many points of scram anyway making the stabs useless.
just seems odd to me someone setting their ship up to run away if they are looking for combat.
but as i say that's just my opinion. i fit my ships to be the best i can in combat. i guess some ppl don't.
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WYLEE C0Y0TE
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: WYLEE C0Y0TE on 19/04/2007 11:50:37
"WTF, your in a Macharial, just trying to get from point A to point B in it, and you knew there were going to be gate-camps along the way so you planned ahead?"
"WTF" didn't you know that noone thinks or does anything different in eve unless it's been sheep army approved noob
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EDIT:
From now on, just reply with "Baaaahahhhaahhhhaaaaaa"
Originally by: Leikeze Mrotserif
If it's personal, it's because of you.
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Napolie
Gallente
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 16:02:00 -
[55]
Originally by: IRS Informant
Originally by: unruly handbag
Just to rub it in, I jumped back through and then through again... and they failed each time
And yet, people will still whine that their hauler filled with tons of expensive loot wasn't given the option of a ransom.. Perhaps stabbed up haulers are the reason they are KOS at gates??.. Hesitate for a moment and the hauler is gone.. One-volley instapop and the wreckage doesn't warp..
Originally by: Napolie
Get More lachises!!!
Yeah, you go ahead and put that Recon on a gate with sentry gun aggro..
See my name?
See my corp?
See my sec?
I AM THE LACH PILOT! so yea i do sit with gun aggro on the gates, i do it alot and i do it often!
It just comes down to "ADEPT OR DIE(Fail to kill things at gates)!"
Originally by: Tuxford
Zomg my ship goes a lot slower
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Damien Smith
Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.04.19 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Napolie
I AM THE LACH PILOT! so yea i do sit with gun aggro on the gates, i do it alot and i do it often!
It just comes down to "ADEPT OR DIE(Fail to kill things at gates)!"
Yeah, lachesisisises own at gate taclking, and tank reasonably well too. Instalock multipoint scrammage ftw.
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Posted - 2007.04.19 19:35:00 -
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Originally by: Mighty Dread
...we aint got no guns to fight so we are ALWAYS....wait for it...ALWAYS gonna run from a fight...
Might I direct your attention to this startling footage?
Linky
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William DeMeo
Gallente
Serial Killers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.19 19:43:00 -
[58]
Edited by: William DeMeo on 19/04/2007 19:40:07
Originally by: WYLEE C0Y0TE
Originally by: William DeMeo
if you stab your way out of a gatecamp everyone has the right to scream WTF in local. Including people who are not camping or not even close to the system.
WTF!
I think you're mean  Fitting stabs on any ship is wrong in my opinion. It has also come to my attention that people are much more inclined to fit stabs on combat ships then industrial ships!
DOT
I find this weird. Dominix's that are stabbed to hell but 1337 iteronz with no stabs at all. Very weird. Btw it looks like I'm quoting myself. That would be amusing. YARR.
/me thinks someone hasn't brought enough scram points to a gatecamp before
You're right, using mods for their intended purpose is just plain wrong. From now on, when gatecamping, all sniping BSs shall fit sensor damps, tacklers shall be equiped with energy transfer arrays, drone ships shall be fitted with armor rep drones, and any other ships present shall have shield transfer arrays.
Only then can we truly cry "WTF" and mean it!!!
I screwed up and quoted you inside of your quote
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Christopher Dalran
Gallente
Deadly Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 19/04/2007 20:02:17
Edited by: Christopher Dalran on 19/04/2007 19:58:49
I was flying a Myrmidon through 0.0 one day in an attempt to move some BPO's from empire into a new area i was going into. Since i was hauling cargo I chose to fit 2 WCS's and enough i-stabs and nano's to allow me to allign and warp in under 3 seconds, i also had a MWD and an ECM burst to have a reasonable chance to knock off locks from tacklers allong with some sensor dampers.
I ran into a little camp somewhere allong the way but since i was able to warp in less than 3 seconds and had +2 warp str i managed to blow through the enire camp , although the tacklers locked me right away I was able to use the ECM burst to knock off enough locks so that my 2 Stabs were enough to be able to warp off long before the larger ships could lock and warp scram me aswell.
First i was flamed in the system by the entire lot, but i was also chased by a recon and a tackler (rifter I beleive) some 20 systems being flamed all along the way because i was able to align and warp off faster than even the frigate could.
So the question is why on earth if my goal was to move Valuable cargo from Pt a to Pt b do i have to fit for combat just because i'm in a battle cruiser?
I probably would have been flamed if I was in a hauler aswell no?
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Lord Dynastron
Mystical Knights
Legionnaire Services Ltd.
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Mighty Dread
Yeah let's clear this up for all the foaming at the mouth pirates out there:
Industrials aren't ingame just for you to stroke your Epeen against. We don't have much of a tank compared to combat ships (because you know...Industrials are so tiny-tiny there is no room for an extra low or mid...right CCP?) and we aint got no guns to fight so we are ALWAYS....wait for it...ALWAYS gonna run from a fight.
But really...an Industrial ship on your killboard? That's like stuffing and mounting a rabbit in your den. Juuuuust doesn't look as impressive as the grizzly bear or the 20 ft great white shark.
Hehe,,, fun read! Post of the Day
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