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Swirler Aftermath Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.19 18:51:00 - [211] Edited by: Swirler on 19/04/2007 18:50:49 Shinra lies and deceipt. I actually hung with Shinra several weeks in Stain after a number of good folks left, telling me Shinra was done, inviting me to join them elsewhere. I hung on until I heard their plan to gank noob-corp POSs in low sec space for fun - while they still had stations and sov in Omist. I was like; what losers, time to go, posted what I thought of their plan, pulled my assets, and that was it. I knew something was up when the forums went down for several days soon after my post. I would never have posted this publicly out of respect to the few good Shinra still remaining while the corp was still around, and always kept my posts internal, but Shinra is dead now, it's history. Again, Good riddance to Shinra. http://aftermath-alliance.com/killboard/sig.php/9839/aftermath/signature.jpg http://ams.lotka.org/signature/Swirler.jpg Only one image is allowed in your signature -Sahwoolo
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2007.04.19 19:06:00 - [212] Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 19:05:54 Originally by: Shinigami Edited by: Shinigami on 19/04/2007 16:27:37 Originally by: Swirler Having been a member of KOS, and then LV for many months from the fall of N7 to the last pvp days in Detorid and the brief move to Stain, I can tell you it wasn't that LV was not good, it had a great number of very good, long time players. The corp leadership from people like Nebba was just bad. They barely went on the offensive with capitals against RA Forces while RA used them day after day, never tried to hold on to Omist by working with RISE, there was just no vision to drive leadership, except to save their precious capital ships. About the Titan: To all of us like me who fought day in and day out in Shinra for LV, begging Shinra for the Titan and LV's capital ships to support us in Detorid, they just went afk while De1ta fought the good fight for Shinra. I will always admire K1lz and De1ta for showing us what Shinra should have done. I stayed up to all hours of the night helping the alliance move assets out of the south, stayed on the defensive in Detorid for as long as they called for it, and once in Stain, I personally tried to get Shinra to get all corps together, to move it's arse and back into the fight; "Stating, let's get out of stain and back into the fight before some small alliance rolls over us." Shinra wasn't interested in hearing about what real leadership should do. Instead, they removed me from the corporation while still in 0.0 for my post asking them to get back in the fight. Scru Shinra, they are a crusty shell of what was, more interested in easy ganks then true guerrilla warfare. For all the members who contributed to building the Titan, where did it go? Pastor Wallace called it right a couple months before JV1V, "The Titan would disappear along with the capital fleet, and we won't get a dime." Be real cautious in letting former LV leadership in your corps, the good folks left long ago. Any corp that would abandon KOS and then V to their deaths, not fight for their territory, and screw it's members is bad in everyones book. Good riddance to bad rubbish. ...Normally hired guns just do their job, and keep their mouths shut. Mr. Shinigami, your reply is amusing. So if other people in LV would post the same as Swirler you would also tell them to shut up and do their work? If that is what the Shinra leadership feels about their people, then they will fit into BoB perfectly. Regards, VV EVE War I - Quick Overview (Feb/March)
Vyxx Shinra	Posted - 2007.04.19 19:29:00 - [213] Originally by: Swirler nonsense. You were removed from the corp for many reasons. First, you were mostly inactive, and did not attend very many ops (other than hanging around in detorid after everyone was told to pack up and leave). You made tons of inane posts about nothing constantly on the forums, trying to stir up drama while you mined ark in tenerifis. You pretty much contributed nothing to the corp. Repeatedly you made posts about how you were unhappy in Shinra, even though we let your deadweight hang around for as long as we did. Finally we got tired of the moaning in corp chat and decided to remove you. Congratulations on having no idea what is going on around you. Cry more.
Pride NL Dominators	Posted - 2007.04.19 20:31:00 - [214] Originally by: Swirler Edited by: Swirler on 19/04/2007 18:50:49 Shinra lies and deceipt. I actually hung with Shinra several weeks in Stain after a number of good folks left, telling me Shinra was done, inviting me to join them elsewhere. I hung on until I heard their plan to gank noob-corp POSs in low sec space for fun - while they still had stations and sov in Omist. I was like; what losers, time to go, posted what I thought of their plan, pulled my assets, and that was it. I knew something was up when the forums went down for several days soon after my post. I would never have posted this publicly out of respect to the few good Shinra still remaining while the corp was still around, and always kept my posts internal, but Shinra is dead now, it's history. Again, Good riddance to Shinra. Shinra is the best corp i ever had and most likely the best one i ever will have. Your post is only to make Shinra look bad, while you actually can't even touch the status that Shinra has. And posting stuff like this makes you look bad as well. Lose - lose situation there mate. Arrive. Raise Hell. Leave.
Shinigami Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.19 21:36:00 - [215] Edited by: Shinigami on 19/04/2007 21:33:44 Originally by: Victor Vision Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/04/2007 19:05:54 Mr. Shinigami, your reply is amusing. So if other people in LV would post the same as Swirler you would also tell them to shut up and do their work? If that is what the Shinra leadership feels about their people, then they will fit into BoB perfectly. Regards, VV I'm sure their punishment would be more severe. Like a swift kick in the ass that sends him flying through the door. --- Markly > why are taking me weldspai? Screenshots FPDoMS - Ore Relocation & Ship Removal Services
Cyrus XII Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.19 22:31:00 - [216] Originally by: RaBbLe66 Edited by: RaBbLe66 on 19/04/2007 15:56:20 Quote: Um, do you have any facts to back this up? It was all done by shinra, anyone that builds a titan doesnt need or want to involve the 'masses' Does alliance COMPULSORY mining ops ring any bells???? Actually... It doesn't.
crice Caldari CRICE Corporation Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.19 23:43:00 - [217] Edited by: crice on 19/04/2007 23:40:00 You will be missed. o7 Good move for you guys. Bad for the rest of you. crice
Zedic Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.20 01:46:00 - [218] Originally by: DJTheBaron SNRA only joined BOB because we wouldnt let them in FATAL. Something about the uniform i believe it was. wtf.. how did you get that pic of Aimez?
War Childe Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.04.20 07:35:00 - [219] Originally by: RaBbLe66 Edited by: RaBbLe66 on 18/04/2007 16:11:08 My reading of this.. BoB is desperate to make up numbers, as is MC with the recent addition of SERA, you only have to look in the recruitment channels to see who is desperatly trying to recruit new members, BoB tenants are falling over themselves to try to gain members. My question is tho, it is nice for the higher SP pilots in LV to get invited to join BoB, but what about the little man in the alliance, LV often claimed they were all there for each other, now some have taken their 13 peices of silver and left the rest of their alliance brethren to rot. How did the goodbye conversation go? "Nice flying with you guys, But stuff you, us high SP pilots are off to BoB, hope you can survive for a while without us " Good luck So much for loyalty and standing together Ive been flying with Shinra for 3 months and have under 7 Million SP's. They took me in, taught me how to fight/survive in 0.0 and kicked my ass when i messed up. I got no special treatment and had to prove my worth just as everyone else did. I was on the list of pilots first offered to join Reikoku and everyone else in the corp found out atleast 48 hours before we started joining (ample time for them to arrange to be part of the corp merger). So dude get your facts right before you start accusing Chow / Shinra of abbandoning low SP pilots. The remaining LV corporations will continue to function and survive regardless of Shinra being there or not. Im going to miss flying with LV and i wish them all the best for the future.
Pegas Spectrum Solutions INC Kith of Venal	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:15:00 - [220] Edited by: Pegas on 20/04/2007 08:11:38 Damn some really cheap flamebaits for players who are supposed to have a higher iq than wow players ... Oh yea and who are u the guy that`s been in Shinra and now left v angry? I bet on all u`re minerlas that if I would be rejoining Shinra today I would still have more kills than u (and is been some time since I took a break).
RaBbLe66 Amarr Amarr Dissidents Club	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:28:00 - [221] Originally by: Cyrus XII Does alliance COMPULSORY mining ops ring any bells??? Actually... It doesn't. selective memory? I have a lot of guys who I know who are ex-Shinra (most left before this war) and they all tell of compulsory mining. In a post I placed in the recruitment channel a few months ago a LV corps replied, and informed me in that post that there was compulsory mining for the corps/alliance. ( cant be bothered to look that far back now but I am sure if your that concerned you could find it.) From another place Dianabolic- How the ** is this guy reading all our **
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:40:00 - [222] Edited by: Graalum on 20/04/2007 08:36:56 looks like they lived and died by their motto. Quote: Take all you can, give nothing back
Vyxx Shinra	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:42:00 - [223] Originally by: RaBbLe66 selective memory? I have a lot of guys who I know who are ex-Shinra (most left before this war) and they all tell of compulsory mining. considering this war started over 2 years ago, this hardly helps your original point of titan ownership. afaik there were 2 shinra mining ops...ever.... no alliance ones. keep digging monkey boy.
Jotan Veer HUN Corp. HUN Reloaded	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:48:00 - [224] Originally by: RaBbLe66 Does alliance COMPULSORY mining ops ring any bells???? all those hours the foot soldiers spent mining to help with the cap ship programme... theres a fact for you !!!! and where is that Super cap now? not in LV !!!!!! If I was one of the LV foot soldiers about now I would be feeling totally betrayed, all they worked for has been taken to BoB and they have been left with the remenants of an alliance Let me get this straight, you weren't in LV ever and still care? Are you some sort of e-lawyer or god forbid an e-footsoldier-rights-advocate?
Zeoliter Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.04.20 08:53:00 - [225] Originally by: RaBbLe66 Originally by: Cyrus XII Does alliance COMPULSORY mining ops ring any bells??? Actually... It doesn't. selective memory? I have a lot of guys who I know who are ex-Shinra (most left before this war) and they all tell of compulsory mining. In a post I placed in the recruitment channel a few months ago a LV corps replied, and informed me in that post that there was compulsory mining for the corps/alliance. ( cant be bothered to look that far back now but I am sure if your that concerned you could find it.) Erm, selective reading? Notice how you failed to address War Chile's post? So your whole argument falls apart really. And War Childe is not the only low SP pilot that was extended the offer. And yes, just two compulsory mining ops in two years so seriously, please stop making wild accusations. Shinra is moving on and if you really feel like you have to drag its name through the mud but find you are failing miserably and making yourself foolish because you really don't have l33t hacking skills and use XML exploits in Vbulletin like a 13 year old....... But you know someone who knew someone who was the brother of Steve's mate who live next door to a guy that used to be in Shinra. Bitter, much?
Mariko San Saints Surrounded	Posted - 2007.04.20 11:36:00 - [226] What's the old saying, "If at first you dont succeed, don't try, try again, just give up and go join someone that wins for that instant victory fix"?
Hennry Fromer Gallente radiated space gerbils Privateer Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.20 12:21:00 - [227] If you think you are owed a piece of his ship - go cliam it. They got a better offer - Oddly people tend to act in thier own best intrests, and look for better oppourtunities. Who knows maybe BOB offered to let them touch thier pet monkey or fly with a group familiar to using and supporting a titan on the front lines. Either way it is a personal decision and if it doesn't work out they will look for others. What business is it of mine none, My only intrest is viewing fraps of a titan that goes down in an epic fight with a pilot at the controls.
D1ck Jones Old Detroit Crime Syndicate	Posted - 2007.04.20 12:31:00 - [228] Originally by: RaBbLe66 Originally by: Cyrus XII Does alliance COMPULSORY mining ops ring any bells??? Actually... It doesn't. selective memory? I have a lot of guys who I know who are ex-Shinra (most left before this war) and they all tell of compulsory mining. exactly omg a corp wanted a titan and had to do some corp mining for it, go figure moron
Velios M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.04.20 12:55:00 - [229] Edited by: Velios on 20/04/2007 12:52:35 Most of you are talking out of your butt holes when you describe how LV titans were financed. 1. the titan was paid for in pure ISK that was generated from our refineries. 2. The titan belonged to the entire alliance, however Shinra had the skills capable of flying it to the best standard (namely enslaver with his top notch armoured warfare skills & high doomsday skill - remember 1V-?) 3. Shinra retain the Titan as they leave, and why not? Nobody else has more pressing need for it's use than them / bob - The titan would serve little to no relevant use to anyone else in LV at this time so I'm sure that any sensible person does not have a problem with it. Anyone that does have a problem (a lot of people here it seems) is being petty. M.Corp Capital Blueprint Department
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.04.20 13:00:00 - [230] Originally by: Velios 2. The titan belonged to the entire alliance Your words, not mine. -------------------------------------
Hast Refused.	Posted - 2007.04.20 13:09:00 - [231] Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Velios 2. The titan belonged to the entire alliance Your words, not mine. were you a part of that alliance? Was it perhaps your titan? Do you have any involvement in this at all? Originally by: omeega PICTURE TOO BIG, KGB INCOMING HAVE FUN.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.04.20 13:15:00 - [232] Originally by: Hast Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Velios 2. The titan belonged to the entire alliance Your words, not mine. were you a part of that alliance? Was it perhaps your titan? Do you have any involvement in this at all? No, but what effect does that have on my quote of what he said? It was the alliances' titan. Now it isn't. If I was in LV, I'd be pretty PO'd. -------------------------------------
Distrans The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.04.20 13:18:00 - [233] The titan aside, say BoB got themselves alot of dead weight No honour = No Band of Brothers áááááááá
Kespii Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.04.20 13:24:00 - [234] Edited by: Kespii on 20/04/2007 13:20:16 Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Hast Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Velios 2. The titan belonged to the entire alliance Your words, not mine. were you a part of that alliance? Was it perhaps your titan? Do you have any involvement in this at all? No, but what effect does that have on my quote of what he said? It was the alliances' titan. Now it isn't. If I was in LV, I'd be pretty PO'd. You seem to forget that Bob and LV are on the same side.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.04.20 13:29:00 - [235] Originally by: Kespii You seem to forget that Bob and LV are on the same side. For now... Do they get it back if BoB wins? Then again...what's a 60 billion ISK asset among friends? -------------------------------------
RaBbLe66 Amarr Amarr Dissidents Club	Posted - 2007.04.20 14:11:00 - [236] Originally by: Velios 2. The titan belonged to the entire alliance, 3. Shinra retain the Titan as they leave, So the titan belongs to LV.. But Shinra leave LV and take it with them.. either it belongs to LV and Shinra is stealing it, or LV just made a 60 Billion leaving present to Shinra. Either its Shinra's and they can take it with them, or its LV's... make your mind up From another place Dianabolic- How the ** is this guy reading all our **
PHPR Freighter Minmatar PTS Industries	Posted - 2007.04.20 15:30:00 - [237] Originally by: Hast Originally by: NATMav Originally by: Velios 2. The titan belonged to the entire alliance Your words, not mine. were you a part of that alliance? Was it perhaps your titan? Do you have any involvement in this at all? Yes, Velios was in LV, I have flown with him a couple times, and he was fun to fly with.. Even with the uber pwnage of Benvilio (sp? can't look at the KB for LV, I was involved in that kill along with Velios) I have only seen Enslaver 1 time, and that was the Jump Bridge to RYC, and I have seen Chow a couple times in the defence of DG- and 0-w. I only saw 1 QUAM guy mining with a ferox tanking, another ferox boosting, and then his hulk. all 1 character and his alts. CRICE Corp even had random mining ops and when a hauler spawn came in, we popped the spawn and 3-4 of us with haulers came in picked it up and when into the corp hanger. Even the random hidden belts and what not had CRICE miners in them. but the refinery required a 17.5% tax and I think that the materials from that built the titan. It may be isk, but they had to sell the minerals fromt he refines for the BPO and the comp BPOs didn't they? now quit the stupid flaming, and if you have a problem with Shinra and their move, Speak with your guns and shut your mouth. Famous words ont he LV forums "The only real diplomacy is your guns. All others are considered useless" Now get to it. And if you have a problem with me, I am just another pod pilot who doesn't deserve a war dec :P
Angor The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.04.20 16:48:00 - [238] Dunno how the coalition can be proud of defeating LV as how many did it take? Thats not something to be proud of. I'm sure if LV had equal-ish numbers it would be coalition corps disapeering into other alliances. I mean didnt LV get close to defeating goons before the "train" left the station. Now a bullet proof locomotive is gearing up as a result, ready for a head-on collision and I for one cant wait to see it. End of the 300 movie comes to mind :) _______________________________ Who the f*k stole my sig...
Bazman Caldari Werda Fookarwii	Posted - 2007.04.20 18:16:00 - [239] Shinra was ftw. hi Chowiepoo! -----
Elve Sorrow Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.04.20 18:17:00 - [240] Your corpname is ftw, tbh. EVE-O Forums Rules summary: If the thought of doing something makes me giggle for more then 15 seconds, I am to assume I'm not allowed to do it.

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