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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2017.01.17 16:08:17 -
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Quote:I have seen, and read about, huge price swings, inflations, deflations, etc. in Eve's history. Those kinds of things are fine if driven by market forces, and even if driven by player market manipulation. The problem is the portion that isn't - the portion driven by the mechanics of creation of ISK and items out of thin air (bounty payments, drops, asteroid fields, etc).
Which portion is that? Can you quantify it?
Beast of Revelations wrote:
SOLUTION: All ISK created by bounty payouts, insurance payouts, etc. should be balanced by the creation of asteroids, hardware dropped by rats, etc. And vice versa.
There should really be some sort of test you have to pass before being allowed to start a thread on this particular board.
The limitation on usable ore coming into the game is lack of people going out an harvesting it - not lack of asteroids sitting on space (which may as well be infinite).
Most non-faction rat drops are also already pretty much already at rock bottom prices, indicating that there is already far more supply than demand for the bulk of those.
What problem do you imagine you're solving? Because it sounds like it's basically, "I saw some charts I didn't understand and one bar was bigger than another bar and I found it all really upsetting."
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2017.01.17 18:33:36 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:
I'm not trying to address a supply shortage. I'm addressing fundamental economic mechanics in the game.
You don't understand fundamental economic mechanics in the game.
You should try that first.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2017.01.17 21:08:37 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:SurrenderMonkey wrote:
You think "spawn asteroids based on the amount of money spawned" is a natural market process? Your entire bizarre proposal is the exact opposite of "pure market-driven".
I see. You are one of those contrarian people who seek out and create conflict just to seek out and create conflict.
No. Your entire post is just diarrheic drivel. You've proposed a solution to a "problem" you can't even vaguely describe. You seem to lack even an elementary understanding of how the current economy functions, and the rationale you've provided so far is that you saw a chart you didn't understand.
You seem to be desperately avoiding having to actually connect your premise with your "solution" in any cogent manner.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2017.01.17 21:55:28 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote: Do you believe that in general the value of currency should just swing around for no good reason other than adjusting the money supply?
Do you believe that, in general, the value of currency in Eve DOES swing around for no good reason other than adjusting the money supply?
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2017.01.17 22:07:41 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:SurrenderMonkey wrote:
Do you believe that, in general, the value of currency in Eve DOES swing around for no good reason other than adjusting the money supply?
The money supply in Eve certainly adjusts. Not unnaturally, adjustments in this money supply cause the value of the money to adjust as well. This is super basic, 'economics 101' stuff.
That's nice. Want to answer the question I actually asked instead of a completely different question that I didn't ask, now?
If you want to skip ahead, I'm slowly walking you down to the bottom of the economic report with the actually-pretty-profoundly-stable price indices that actually represent the deltas in value of money in Eve.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2017.01.17 22:18:48 -
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Danika Princip wrote:Clearly the solution is space-bitcoins. 
I hear you can mine those in nullsec.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2017.01.17 23:40:37 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:
Look, this has gotten ridiculous. You and others are blowing this way up into something it wasn't intended to be. Someone skins their knee, I offer a suggestion on how to bandage the knee differently than they way it is bandaged, and all of a sudden we are discussing Ph.D. level medical crap and delving into ridiculous details that shouldn't be delved into.
More like someone bends down to tie their shoe, you mistakenly think they've fallen and scraped their knee, rush over, and suggest amputation before gangrene sets in, ignoring their protests that there's nothing wrong with their knee, as they didn't even fall down.
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SurrenderMonkey
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2017.01.18 16:26:21 -
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Beast of Revelations wrote:
I've seen the (monthly? quarterly?) 'sinks and faucets' summaries. The amount of stuff sunk, and the amount of stuff fauceted, is generally out of whack, whatever that means.
Oh wow, that is some Akita T-level economic analysis there.
It's out of whack, folks.
Whatever that means.
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