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keir Thomasday
Etherium Beach Cohortes Triarii
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Posted - 2017.01.20 13:46:00 -
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Okay so I am a returning player. Right before I took my break, an expansion was released that made NPC's Primary drones. I came back to find that this is still the case...
So my question would be how are people still using/ recommending them? Do we now have to keep launching and retracting them every time they are prim'ed? I don't get how people still find them functional if this is the case. I use to end up losing plenty of drone because of this.
And look here, I'm not whining about it. I'm just asking, is there something that I'm missing here? Is there a way to get them to stop priming the drones so fast? Also, is there a way to figure out exactly when the drones have been targeted, other than monitoring their shields? I know it tells you in the overview, I've just forgotten what to look for.
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mkint
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Posted - 2017.01.20 13:49:07 -
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They don't exactly primary drones, and never really had. They just switch targets based on a semi-logical formula including things like ewar, size, proximity, and damage application. They don't switch very often and nothing has changed with tracking small fast moving targets.
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Lena Crews
Universal Sanitation Corporation
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Posted - 2017.01.20 14:30:27 -
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I've found several things keep NPC's from targeting drones... including your ship doing damage, ewar (such as using target painters) and even the act of using a remote armor repairer on a drone that is being damaged by a rat.
I had similar questions when I came back after a long break... but from experimentation I found the change didn't have a huge impact. It's more active then just getting aggro, launching drones, turning on your armor reps and walking away for 10-20 minutes (which is often how you could run missions with drone boats before). But it doesn't feel like the drone boats are less effective. They just require a bit more of an active playstyle.
And if you go with a sniper fit using sentries and a MJD... it's not even THAT much more active. |
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs
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Posted - 2017.01.20 19:03:37 -
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I fit a remote rep to my drone-boats, and rep my drones. This action is enough to save the drone(s), and cause the NPC to focus on my ship instead.
My favorite "cheap" drone-boat is my Navy Vexor. It has a lot of spare capacitor for repping drones or itself, or even a few rep cycles on another ship. |
Memphis Baas
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Posted - 2017.01.20 19:42:25 -
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Depends on the NPC's too.
Basic mission NPC's / rats:
1. Frigates ignore light drones, attack mediums and heavies. 2. Cruisers ignore light and medium, attack heavies. 3. Battleships ignore all.
The basic NPC's / rats will stay on you if you get their aggro when they spawn or you warp in.
The elite / boss / named NPCs in missions, as well as Sleepers / Drifters / etc., will ignore the above rules and switch to your drones based on "threat". They will likely switch to your drones if the drones are a significant portion of the damage output of your ship. However, as noted by the other posters above, the elites consider all forms of ewar and all forms of logistics / repairs as "huge threats" and will switch to the jammer / logistics ship pretty much instantly. |
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
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Posted - 2017.01.20 20:24:13 -
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The main reason as far as I can tell for drone aggro is that CCP thought too many people were afking their npc killing with heavy drones. Against most rats I hardly notice drone aggro. I use exclusively light and sentry drones either of which can make it back to the drone bay if npcs do switch 99% of the time. And almost no rats bother to shoot at lights, and sentries are easy to scoop and redeploy to shake the aggro.
funny enough they introduced the MJD which makes it even easier to afk missions. Jump to 100km where you don't even take damage, launch sentry drones, and make a sandwich. Or use auto-targeting missiles
and then there is something like the gila where the drone HP bonus is so strong you can ignore npc aggro in many cases.
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MadMuppet
A Better Corp Name
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Posted - 2017.01.22 00:12:35 -
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T2 drones draw more than their fair share of aggro, so I stick with T1s because they die less often and nobody cares if a T1 drone dies, much like you don't take a hamster to the vet.
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Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
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Posted - 2017.01.22 01:22:18 -
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OP, maybe try a drone navigation computer or two and an omnidirectional tracking link with targetting script - if you plan on using regular "buzzy" drones.
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Shayla Etherodyne
Delta Laroth Industries Voxis Accord
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Posted - 2017.01.22 09:41:59 -
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Drone aggro is dependant on your NPC enemies race. Angels target the drones way more than blood raiders, as an example. |
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