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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 12:29:00 -
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Good day residents of Molden Heath.
I am not here to point out that your self built security system MH-SEC is not working anymore. I am not going to say that NMTZ and 5th Column have some "secret" deal with the Establishment, a known pirate Alliance.
Infinitus Odium is causing havoc in Molden Heath. Infinitus Odium has the biggest muscles in Molden Heath, muscles from which even the Establishment needs to hide.
However, I am here to tell you that there is an easy way out! Infinitus Odium is now selling SafetypassesÖ. By purchasing a SafetypassÖ you will recieve complete immunity from INFOD forces.
But wait! This is not everything you will recieve. By entering the Infinitus Odium SafetypassÖ program you will also be able to request help from INFOD forces. Which means that you are not only buying safety, you are in fact buying a gun.
If you are interested please contact "Tassi". Client data will be kept 100% secret, only myself and Swanger will be able to see client data to ensure maximum safety for you. Prices will be made individually in a meeting on the INFOD com's server.
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MobyMule
Minmatar PoliCratton Technologies 5th Column
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Posted - 2007.04.19 14:58:00 -
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Edited by: MobyMule on 19/04/2007 14:54:05 That is hilarious. Shakedown like the mob baby.
I can 100% verify that 5th has had no dealings with The Establishment. Maybe all this forum stuff has just brought to you some unwanted attention.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:09:00 -
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Sorry that I have to burst your bubble:
Quote: Futher Bezluden > so **** them over hard and slow after EST leaves Futher Bezluden > they are on a 1 month contract
We do not only have the suspision that you work with the Establishment, no, we have the suspision that you hired them 
A little intel from your Molden Intel Channel:
This proves that there ARE corporations in NMTZ and 5th that have positive standings towards the Establishment. Which proves that you work together with a known pirate Alliance.
Thank you.
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MobyMule
Minmatar PoliCratton Technologies 5th Column
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:12:00 -
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Edited by: MobyMule on 19/04/2007 15:14:31 Edited by: MobyMule on 19/04/2007 15:08:35 That proves nothing about 5th having dealings with them. I stand by what I said. I am not a liar.
Futher is no longer in 5th by the way.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Tassi on 19/04/2007 15:23:14 You are not a liar?
This is too easy, please let someone else post.
You are a liar. (This is a little picture of 5th standings.)
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MobyMule
Minmatar PoliCratton Technologies 5th Column
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: MobyMule on 19/04/2007 15:24:27 Tassi I don't know anything about the NAP. I can't even tell where that is coming from. I will say this. 5th will fight our own battles and will not pay someone to do it for us. I would rather have people quit our alliance that disagree with that and keep those who would valiantly fight the good fight and continue to learn and to continue to get better together.
You are a master at this stuff. I am but a simple honest pod pilot trying to do the best I can. I will no longer post about this but those who know that I am a man of my word.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:39:00 -
[7]
There is nothing left to fight for. MH-SEC is dead, your leaders are leaving Molden Heath.
It is time to adapt and realise that natural selection has selected INFOD to survive. Adapt and subscribe to the Safetypass program, that is the only thing that will keep you alive.
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Xroxor
Minmatar Marines 5th Column
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:45:00 -
[8]
*Xroxor points finger at Tassi and laughs
Why donÆt you wake up and smell the toast burning! SAFETYPASS? Yeah, right!
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DeMundus
The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2007.04.19 17:48:00 -
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Id like to point out that The Establishment is NOT a pirate alliance! We are hardly an alliance because we created a 1 man corp to join our main Corp in alliance. Its only for logistical use. You sir are only dealing with "The Establishment" corporation, a 20 player active corp.
As of why we are in Molden Heath and why you think we are targeting you I have no comments on, but this post here; seems a little desperate of you, seeing if you can wriggle some isk out of MH before your ships sinks?
Have a nice day Abandon all hope But take care of teh cake!11 - Immy |

Ange1
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2007.04.19 18:10:00 -
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May I also add that the muscle Infinitus Odium speaks of, required 70+ ships including 7 Capitals to keep us at bay. Unless INFOD are able to muster this kind of fleet every single day to maintain their supposed dominion over Molden Heath, then their control over the area is not what they may lead you to believe.
This concludes The Establishments opinion on the matter, now that both sides have spoken their points.
The Establishment is at your service...
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Malachi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ange1 May I also add that the muscle Infinitus Odium speaks of, required 70+ ships including 7 Capitals to keep us at bay. Unless INFOD are able to muster this kind of fleet every single day to maintain their supposed dominion over Molden Heath, then their control over the area is not what they may lead you to believe.
Easy enough to get those numbers every day 
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Ikasu
Gallente The Durandal Organization
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Posted - 2007.04.19 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Malachi
Originally by: Ange1 May I also add that the muscle Infinitus Odium speaks of, required 70+ ships including 7 Capitals to keep us at bay. Unless INFOD are able to muster this kind of fleet every single day to maintain their supposed dominion over Molden Heath, then their control over the area is not what they may lead you to believe.
Easy enough to get those numbers every day 
I'm fairly interested to see what Ships Operating System you use to maintain a large fleet so constantly without running into the lag phenomina frequently. I had trouble with LAG issue even when in a simply 20 man skirmish once, it made it hard to maintain my active tank. Look forward to your response.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: DeMundus Id like to point out that The Establishment is NOT a pirate alliance! We are hardly an alliance because we created a 1 man corp to join our main Corp in alliance. Its only for logistical use. You sir are only dealing with "The Establishment" corporation, a 20 player active corp.
Well DeMundus, random killing of people under sentryfire is what some people would call piracy. And to prove that you are killing random people under sentryfire I will give you this: youarrsoyarr (right click save as, 10mb clip).
According to the "Establishment" Alliance, you are in an Alliance. It does not matter for what you use/used the Alliance.
No no, we are dealing here with a bunch of good fighters with a Nyx on top of that. It is not our fault that MOM's do have such powerful abilities to be invulnerable in low security space and it is also not your fault that you cannot match our numbers.
However, the simple fact that The Establishment was hired, which is pretty likly, points out that those little carebears are not afraid of paying ISK to be safe again. Which leads to my next point, why not invest into INFOD's security instead? At least we are here to stay 
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Ange1
Gallente The Establishment Establishment
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Posted - 2007.04.19 18:43:00 -
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w00t, I'm on TV! 
The Establishment is at your service...
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Futher Bezluden
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.19 18:56:00 -
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Originally by: Tassi There is nothing left to fight for. MH-SEC is dead, your leaders are leaving Molden Heath.
It is time to adapt and realise that natural selection has selected INFOD to survive. Adapt and subscribe to the Safetypass program, that is the only thing that will keep you alive.
MH-SEC, the low-sec Molden Collective of corps and alliances that protected the area for the better part of a year and a half from the likes of ATUF, KORKY, 505, Corsets and Carebears -Whips and Chains Alliance, and fought numerous engagements against INFOD may not be dead, but it is in critical condition. Short of a complete turnaround, it will in fact go into arrest and die.
Yes Tassi, it is dead, it just doesn't know it.
How has a community registering 400+ pilots that once averaged 100 pilots with 50+ active at any one time gone into a coma with little or no viable recovery?
3/05: Thukker Corsairs, ONE, and several other small corporations begin operations in Half and after several severe pirate attacks begin a private system channel where allied corps can freely chat and track hostile movements. Little fighting is done due to the limited capabilities of the parties involved, but a few kills are made.
05/05: The aforementioned system channel closes and is replaced by MH-SEC with a handful of corporations willing to take the fight to the pirates when conditions permit. Ushra'Khan, then based in Molden Heath, is the rallying force in the region and takes a leadership role in forging a community of carebears into a reasonable fighting force. While inexperienced, a handful of pilots begin actively hunting known threats and going to ground when unable to mount a response.
06/05: Arcane Frankologies, led by Frankinator, begin a reign of terror. Fleets of 10+ ATUF are not uncommon in the area. Although smaller pirate corporations are active in the area, ATUF remains the most formidable group in the region for the next several months. While ATUF has superior tactics and experience, fleets of 25-30 pilots from Mh-Sec find themselves taxed by ATUF. Soon, Electronic warfare compliments all fleet engagements on both sides. By the end of several months, damages to ATUF are estimated at 4.5 billion and MH-SEC estimated at 6.8 billion -exluding additional damage by ATUF to non-collective corporations and individuals.
10/05: Tassi of Infinitus Odium reported pirating in Molden Heath in a Maller fit with Medium Pulse Laser II -INFOD will remain an off/on threat to the area for months to come. At present, INFOD ranks are near 200 pilots with many allies in the region. Save Our Souls reported pirating in Molden Heath out of Aedald, they will remain a solid threat until 09/06.
In the interim, Regional ranks swell to over 250 members with Ushra'Khan and Foundation working to supress pirate activity. Tracking hostile pilots and their movements, reporting ship intel, and response teams dominate the activities of the collective. Assorted pirate corps numbering in the dozens enter the region only to leave a short time later. Collective forces grow complacent in the calm. Ushra'Khan relocates to Providence. The newly formed Namtz'aar K'in seeks inroads into GW causing conflicts with Mh-Sec which does not deal in the affairs of 0.0. Frequent debates rage over the question of 0.0 activities -it is resolved that what happens in the Great Wildlands, stays in the Great Wildlands. Namtz'aar K'in become a dominant force in Mh-Sec politics. Red Dwarf Mining Corps joins Namtz'aar K'in after being war declared by 6 corporations. NMTZ becomes the meat shield of SMEGH, but a majority of the war is fought by SMEGH and NMTZ corps. There is always the distinction between SMEGH and NMTZ although NMTZ took SMEGH under it's wing during the conflict.
/continued in next post
THUKKER -Be Paranoid
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Futher Bezluden
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.19 18:59:00 -
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06/06: Arcane Frankologies reformed as Corsets and Carebears and formed Whips and Chains Alliance. While not the force it was as ATUF, BDSM nonetheless proves to be a formidable adversary. 08/06: INFOD allies themselves with Corsets and Carebears in a daring station breakout. NMTZ forces are slaughtered as 12 INFOD Battleships drop out of warp to save 3 undocking BDSM. 09/06: Mercenary Coalition declares war against Namtz'aar K'in. The war is short, brutal, and in the end devastating for Mh-Sec.
In the middle of the MC/NMTZ war, SMEGH directors complete the leave put to vote a week prior to the MC/NMTZ war rather than lose more pilots. The aftermath of this schism deeply divided Mh-Sec with SMEGH pilots refusing to aid NMTZ and NMTZ refusing to use Mh-Sec or aid SMEGH pilots. Use of voicecomms between the two major factions in Mh-Sec all but ceases completely.
To further divide the major factions involved in Mh-Sec, DiamondEgdes & Black Lotus Foundation leave NMTZ after several heated and violent incidents and joins SMEGH. All the conflict between NMTZ and BLF now becomes a NMTZ vs SMEGH free for all with incriminations, accusations, and several near shooting events.
Smeggy of Red Dwarf Mining Corps makes is intentions known to recruit as many away from NMTZ as possible as well as recruit the most active pilots of Mh-Sec into an alliance already in the making. He refuses to declare war on NMTZ due to the hostility that it would instill in pilots/corps within NMTZ that he wants in the new alliance. This is known by NMTZ, who take the stand that any wishing to jump ship aren't worth being in NMTZ.
The constant infighting and hatred between SMEGH and NMTZ takes it's toll on the Mh-Sec community leading to even less cooperation between other corporations, dismal morale and turnout, and overall impairment of the collective to mount attacks against hostiles.
01/28/2007: 5th Column is formed by Red Dwarf Mining Corp. INFOD has remained an ever present threat to the area and neither NMTZ or 5thC are able to mount a force sufficiently coordinated to best INFOD. Regional pilots -except for about 10%- are unwilling to defend the area. Handlebar, though local numbers at times climb to 20+ non-NTMZ/5thC, remains unwilling to risk anything to protect the area. 5th Column again reiterates it's stance to not aid NMTZ unless 5thC pilots are the lead dogs.
Present Day: INFOD storms over the region daily with fleets ranging from a mere 5 to a well oiled machine of death involving 50 cordinated pilots armed to the gills with state of the art battleships supported by a variety of command ships and capital assets at the ready.
The regional defense force is in critical condition and has only itself to blame. Though numbering 400+ pilots by my official count -and yes, I am a thurough sob in my record keeping with all pilots documented, the community averages 50 pilots with 10 willing to fight at any given moment. Even during peak times, the community that once proudly drove off pirate by the sheer unknown of 25-50 ships forming up at any given time out of seemingly thin air is now content to sit a wait until the area is clear to run missions and mine.
They have forgotten their origins. Mh-SEC, wake from your slumber or die in your sleep by your own hand. You have left the dagger in it's sheath long enough and it will not be sated until drunk with the blood of the fallen -enemy or your own. A hundred hands once eagerly plunged this dagger into the hearts of their enemies and rejoiced. What remains now? A hundred greedy hands clawing at isk to fill their own coffers... might as well be a hundred aged hands building their own coffins.
Yes Tassi, I have failed as a leader though not for lack of effort. My work for the past year has come undone, but not by your hand, by it's own.
For those of MH-SEC, Your choice is simply. Turn the dagger on your enemy or yourselves. THUKKER -Be Paranoid
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 19:08:00 -
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I have alot of respect for you Futher, always had.
But I think you do not know what damage this information may cause for MH-SEC, afterall their leader is calling them dead.
I would rather see MH-SEC enter the Safetypass program and build up their industry in Molden Heath than dieing because of the simple fact that their leaders are unable to see the truth.
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Awox
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: Awox on 19/04/2007 19:39:32 Oh, nice story. I didn't wait for second post. My apologies.  - BOOST OUTLAWS (-10.0 and proud of it) |

Futher Bezluden
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:03:00 -
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Edited by: Futher Bezluden on 19/04/2007 20:02:16 Edited by: Futher Bezluden on 19/04/2007 20:00:03 I am no longer their leader, I no longer have any purpose there. (yes, banned from it now by smeggy)
Others have been put in charge, It is up to them to determine thier future.
Is it damaging for me to point at a dying horse and say, "hey, it's a dying horse" is immaterial. That that dying horse was once a warhorse with a proud history of beating people to death beneath it's feet is what is important.
Unfortunately those who left it to suffer the indiginites of neglect were the same ones charged with it's care. In the grand scheme of things, I turned out to only be a stable boy trying to get rally everyone to revive it.
If NMTZ and 5thC would put their differences aside and work as one, it might live and once more have little pirate bits in its shoes and mane. All they have to do is remember their roots and let go of their petty squabbling. Seems like such a little thing.
I left careful instructions, I hope they are followed. THUKKER -Be Paranoid
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Karum Korinth
Minmatar The Paratwa Ka Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Karum Korinth on 19/04/2007 20:22:20 Edited by: Karum Korinth on 19/04/2007 20:19:23 It is only Futher that is broken. Why he should select to support our enemies by posting his delusional view of the state of MH is beyond me, however. I no longer have any respect for the man.
In the meantime, you may pick up any of these free of charge at any gent's room in any station in MH.
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:33:00 -
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DISCLAIMER
Namtz'aar k'in fake Safetypasses are only single-layered. Do not fall for this fake product, you could make your hands dirty by using it.
Only buy the real tripple-layered silktouch SafetypassÖ of Infinitus Odium. Other products cannot warrant clean hands and a smooth butt 
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Atreides Horza
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: Atreides Horza on 19/04/2007 20:54:46
Originally by: Futher Bezluden 06/06: Yes Tassi, I have failed as a leader though not for lack of effort. My work for the past year has come undone, but not by your hand, by it's own.
You have not failed. It is your alliance that has failed you. Your principles remain sound and untouched - and noone in INFOD can nor will take those away from you...
You lie before us a broken man, abandoned and left behind by your own kin - and yet, your testicular fortitude is by far greater than any of the men that you once called brothers.
Let them fly their rifters of victory, I say... and let Molden Heath burn to the ground.
Originally by: Karum Korinth
In the meantime, you may pick up any of these free of charge at any gent's room in any station in MH.
Well... When it comes to 'rhoids, I guess you guys are the experts. 
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Trypho
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.19 21:52:00 -
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So NAMTZ prints the BURN magazine on one side on the paper, and the other side has a bootleg safetypass? Very cost efficient! ---
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Futher Bezluden
Minmatar Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.19 23:17:00 -
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Originally by: Karum Korinth Edited by: Karum Korinth on 19/04/2007 20:19:23 It is only Futher that is broken. Why he should select to support our enemies by posting his delusional view of the state of MH is beyond me, however. I no longer have any respect for the man.
In the meantime, you may pick up any of these free of charge at any gent's room in any station in MH.
All you have to do is prove my words false. Then I'll put away my Bowel Disruptor II.
THUKKER -Be Paranoid
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Nachshon
Caldari Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.04.19 23:59:00 -
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Even if what you're saying is true, why would I trust INFOD to do anything except pirating and smacktalk? ____________________________________ Caldari by birth, Minmatar by citizenship.
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Cz Ire
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:02:00 -
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Futher, I too have always respected your work for MH. but that work has been called into question and your words should be taken by all with a grain of salt. INFOD is strong. MH needs to adapt to survive - but aside from yourself, I dont see any of our other leaders giving up. You are either falling victim to - or directly aiding - infod's propoganda machine with your post.
Futher is overly critical of the freindly forces in MH. while it is true that we do not rush out to engage INFOD's "doom fleets" we have been trying diffrent tactics to counter that threat. Recently, INFOD is the first force that has regularly been capible of feilding 30+ fully t2 fitted BS with command ship, capital ship, t2 cruiser support against us. MH hasnt had to deal with that before, and we are adapting.
Yes, INFOD's "safetypass" is an option to industrial corps in the area. However, MH forces will assume that any and all corps that apply for such a safetypass are directly aiding INFOD and will not be considered neutral. After all, they are paying INFOD isk for those passes. So, if you decide to buy protection from INFOD, you make enemies of most of the rest of Molden Heath. *shrug* Make your choice there. Im personally not one for extortion from the pirates, but I wont stand by and watch you hand over isk to my enemies.
Finally, Tassi, I would like to state that I usually have a decent amount of respect for you above some of the other noismakers in infod - dont wreak that image, please. My biggest problem with infod is their smack. Your bark is worse than your bite, and considering you have a decent bite
-Cz Ire
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |

Cz Ire
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:04:00 -
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Oh, and as a side note - neutrals should join molden intel and pay attention to warnings of infoblobs in the area to reduce the danger of becomeing another infod statistic.
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |

Trypho
Minmatar Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.20 00:23:00 -
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I think being able to run a business safely is more important than the friendship with an overruled combatforce, don`t you think? We are not to be messed with by your kindergarten cops, ask Roadkill or Ethereal Dawn about that, they have very nice pages in our "portfolio"
I`m sure there are Molden Heath residents more than willing to pay a small fee for not being "drone lotteried" with again, or bullied while missioning. Your transports towards and from highsec will be safe, and you won`t get shot when we lock down an entry gate.
Be happy that we are presenting a way out for those willing to cooperate instead of criticising it - your alliance and its allies can`t offer anything like this leaving pilots scared and loosing ship. This pack decreases alot of the risk your pilots have to deal with every day. Consider it, we are willing to talk now.
Tick tock. ---
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Cz Ire
Minmatar Gradient Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:10:00 -
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Originally by: Trypho
Be happy that we are presenting a way out for those willing to cooperate instead of criticising it - your alliance and its allies can`t offer anything like this leaving pilots scared and loosing ship.
your right, we dont offer anything like this - because we dont attack neutrals without cause to begin with
--- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir |

Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:37:00 -
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Edited by: Grant Smith on 20/04/2007 02:34:22 I feel obliged to state three things.
Firstly - Futher, from what I've read and what I've seen, you're a very honorable pilot and a person of whom has a great deal of respect. You quite possibly have more respect from INFOD than from your "brothers".
Secondly - Anyone questioning Futhers structure of events or anything he has had to say just goes to prove that they are blinded by wealth and greed like Futher has stated. You fail to see the state of disarray MH-SEC is in, and subsequently fail to protect it.
Thirdly - The INFOD SafetypassesÖ is 100% Genuine! Turn a blind eye to threats made from -EM-/NMTZ/5thC, for they do not have any power within Molden Heath, threat level is negligable! You know where the respect lies, and it isn't with them.
Much lub Futher <3
G. INFOD Director.
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