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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 19:48:33
Sometimes in eve a dark day comes, a day when bears from across eve know that they have some serious problems. Today iÆm pleased to say is such a day....
IÆm writing to tell you fellow evil pirates here about a new corp, a new corp with pirate ideals and heritage way beyond your average wannabes. Drawing from decades of combined gankage and grief play, Kleptomaniacs is in town and built from the ground up to bring eveÆs fluffier residents a fast and painless death, while providing us with plenty of loot and laughs along the way.
KLEPTO are a breakaway corp from SNOWY, with most of our members also from standard setting and game shaping rat corps including...
Venal Rangers Beer and Kebabs Mafia SNUFF Syndicate October Snow Muffin Factory INFOD
This is not a recruitment thread, I could not care less if you want to join us or not, but simply an announcement to the bears to be afraid. However, if you are a die hard gate camper of extraordinary skill and feel you have something to offer then plz convo me in game, we are recruiting but of course are pretty dam picky :)
Before handing over to the flamers IÆd like to explain why I and other key members from SNOWY left, and though the flame haired one who I shall not mention here told me not too, I will explain.
When I joined SNOWY there was a 100% to corp loot policy, I struggled for weeks with this and after many members expressed concerns it was decided that a 50% to corp policy be adopted. Now, though good in practice if I spend 5hrs with a couple of guys camping a gate I am certainly not gonna share it with my whole corp (translation - make my CEOs wallet fat), the flame haired one was unhappy with this and on learning that I shared the gate isk with gang mates asked me to leave accusing me of being greedy.
Once I was accused of this the corp went back to 100% to corp mode, with it being explained to members that 'youre not in the corp to get rich' (translation : you're here to make the CEO rich slaves!)
I am not and will never camp for hours just to fund someoneÆs desire to buy a mothership......the dream team that was October Snow came to a end and became a shadow of itÆs former self .
Well, Enough of my ramblings, back to the game, back to gank some nubs and no doubt force those who canÆt win in game to petition us as it's the only way they can win.
IÆll leave you with the dictionary definition of our corp û
klepòtoòmaòniòa - An obsessive impulse to steal regardless of economic need.
Cry me a river bears, cry me a river.
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:30:00 -
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Alt corp goes pirate, I like it.
Good luck. ------
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:31:00 -
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so you still eve¦s nr. 2 pvper?
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:40:00 -
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100% to corp???
WTF is up with that? I hope they had a first rate ship/mod replacement program and even then .
Certainly it is cool that some go to the corp for that Nyx someday and other fiddly bits corps need to do but seems the corp was pirating its pirates. Maybe there is some poetic justice in that but I can't imagine why ANYONE would agree to those terms.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 19:42:12
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h 100% to corp???
WTF is up with that? I hope they had a first rate ship/mod replacement program and even then .
Certainly it is cool that some go to the corp for that Nyx someday and other fiddly bits corps need to do but seems the corp was pirating its pirates. Maybe there is some poetic justice in that but I can't imagine why ANYONE would agree to those terms.
There was a replacement policy, but not if it was your own fault. The thing is, most times you lose a ship it is YOUR OWN FAULT. You also get full access to t1 module and ammo hangar :x
Sure SNOWY did buy a few cap ships for members and even replaced a carrier for me, but the majority of the isk goes AWOL. I'd estimate 50-75% is missing, presumed in CEOs wallet.
I have nothing against SNOWY, some of my best m8s from eve are still in there... including the CEO, I just disagree with their loot policy hence my absence from the corp.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:03:00 -
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Ahh! Kapads old corp. :]
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Ahh! Kapads old corp. :]
For sure, Kapads is one of the key members and founder. I don't know if you have flown with him but I've never known such a laid back pilot. I've seen him warp his Dom into 20 cruisers at a planet for a 1 vs 20 and stay calm.
Crazy Aussie, but one of the best pirates about IMHO
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:47:00 -
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I've left piracy, but I just can't help but feel warm and gooey inside when I hear you make carebears cry.
________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people! |
ZuN3
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:56:00 -
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Yarrrrr! Great corp name too.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:05:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 21:08:45
Originally by: ZuN3 Yarrrrr! Great corp name too.
And great corp policys....
1. kill everything or ransom depending on which generates more isk. 2. share all the loot with the gang (one guy in gang will buy loot and split isk)
Corp makes nothing, members make isk they deserve and have fun.
The way it should be....
ISK is the driving force in eve, everyone wants bigger better ships to help them get the edge in PVP. Anyone who says they have no drive from gaining isk is either -
1. rich already 2. has slave corp making it for him / carebear alt 3. stupid 4. a liar
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Corp makes nothing, members make isk they deserve and have fun.
The way it should be....
Well...corp should make SOME money. Gotta pay for Office rentals, perhaps the occasional war dec. Can be other things but at least those deserve a dribble of ISK from members to keep going. If you ever want a corp Nyx or somesuch then of course you have a serious need for cashflow (or a carebear ALT corp funding it all).
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 21:15:09
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: tiller Corp makes nothing, members make isk they deserve and have fun.
The way it should be....
Well...corp should make SOME money. Gotta pay for Office rentals, perhaps the occasional war dec. Can be other things but at least those deserve a dribble of ISK from members to keep going. If you ever want a corp Nyx or somesuch then of course you have a serious need for cashflow (or a carebear ALT corp funding it all).
That is not true, office rentals cost as good as nothing... war decs are for those who want to kill people but afraid to risk losing sec status.
There is no place in eve for pirate corps with fat bloated corp wallets... it just doesn't work. A good pirate can make plenty of isk, you don't have to beg your corp for handouts...
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:27:00 -
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With a decent corp tax, you can put up your own gank-a-pos! Sure the targets are few, but the laughs are plenty!
________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people! |
zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:32:00 -
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havoc 2 sa bears...
with zwerg soon
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:34:00 -
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Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 20/04/2007 21:31:11
Originally by: tiller That is not true, office rentals cost as good as nothing... war decs are for those who want to kill people but afraid to risk losing sec status.
There is no place in eve for pirate corps with fat bloated corp wallets... it just doesn't work. A good pirate can make plenty of isk, you don't have to beg your corp for handouts...
Guess I am just used to industrial style corps with many offices all over. Cheap they may be but can add up enough that one player shouldn't be burdened paying for it all. Guess as a pirate corp one or two Offices are plenty. Not to mention all the buying of mats and lab rentals and factory rentals and so on indie corps face.
War decs though...seems like pirate corps occasionally get annoyed with someone enough to go that route and with the new war dec pricing changes a few of those could add up too but I guess if you will never go there then no biggie.
But that mothership...the solopwnmobile of piracy...a lofty but worthy goal (although tbh CCP has got to have a nerf in store for those at some point). Still drool worthy though and a solid addition to any pirate fleet.
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Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.04.20 22:26:00 -
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Thanks for the heads up.
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Oro Sarmasa
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.20 22:43:00 -
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You're a damn good pirate, tiller. And I applaud your decision.
I find it hard to believe SNOWY had such a corporate-slave policy... I guess Ginger's a bigger asshat than I thought.
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Igrayne
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:39:00 -
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Yo tiller great fun flying with you kap and tub, im too drunk to really notice anything about isk from camps, the only one that sticks out was that once in a lifetime hauler which i would have wanted a fair share of!!
No doubt seeing a lot of u guys in the future even i can manage to jump a system or 2.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 21:15:09
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: tiller Corp makes nothing, members make isk they deserve and have fun.
The way it should be....
Well...corp should make SOME money. Gotta pay for Office rentals, perhaps the occasional war dec. Can be other things but at least those deserve a dribble of ISK from members to keep going. If you ever want a corp Nyx or somesuch then of course you have a serious need for cashflow (or a carebear ALT corp funding it all).
That is not true, office rentals cost as good as nothing... war decs are for those who want to kill people but afraid to risk losing sec status.
There is no place in eve for pirate corps with fat bloated corp wallets... it just doesn't work. A good pirate can make plenty of isk, you don't have to beg your corp for handouts...
Hells yes Tiller.
Because I said so...
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:54:00 -
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so i guess ur loot policy will be different to the snowy one that drove you away
DE
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jimmyjam
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: jimmyjam on 20/04/2007 23:58:48 Sounds like a cool corp, you guys should come back to placid/ost area. Spelling
Metagaming is a broad term usually used to define any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, |
SibSpi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.21 00:34:00 -
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I wonder where you'll head ------------- When in doubt, F1->F8... |
Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.21 01:04:00 -
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Good question. Where are you heading? Feel free to help us come kill some NMTZ and 5thC. Can't express enough how poor the yield is from them though! But for ****s and giggles, first class!
Yarrr n' all that.
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.21 02:52:00 -
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Nice.
Good move quitting if that was the policy...I mean FFS that's not piracy that's slave labor. The policy you've set up is the way I would do if I were to organize a corp - even share all around, no favoritism, no communism, no bull****.
Good luck with your future endeavors, and might I ask you don't agree with Grant and come down here, we've got few enough targets as it is what with INFOD doing their camping thing...annoying though it may be, they've certainly got it down to a science.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.21 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Ahh! Kapads old corp. :]
For sure, Kapads is one of the key members and founder. I don't know if you have flown with him but I've never known such a laid back pilot. I've seen him warp his Dom into 20 cruisers at a planet for a 1 vs 20 and stay calm.
Crazy Aussie, but one of the best pirates about IMHO
Kapads used to be in my corp. - one of our best, definitely. Laid back is the word for it, he spoke more through his actions and proficiency as a pirate more than anything else.
Now it's almost getting sentimental here, so I'm going to go murder someone just to feel less dirty.
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Whineroy
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:08:00 -
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Indeed, definitely a time for empire carebears to mourn... After all, you "camp, warp away at sign of danger and then boast about being cool ebil pirates"- gankers are out-carebearing empire carebears to such nth degree that empire carebears will have hard time keeping up :)
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Whineroy Indeed, definitely a time for empire carebears to mourn... After all, you "camp, warp away at sign of danger and then boast about being cool ebil pirates"- gankers are out-carebearing empire carebears to such nth degree that empire carebears will have hard time keeping up :)
Your dam right mr alt, I'm at gates to kill those weaker than myself. If I see a target that odds on will toast me I'll just safe up or dock till they pass by.
We call it *waves fingers in air like dr evil* I-N-T-E-L-I-G-E-N-C-E
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Red Six
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Whineroy Indeed, definitely a time for empire carebears to mourn... After all, you "camp, warp away at sign of danger and then boast about being cool ebil pirates"- gankers are out-carebearing empire carebears to such nth degree that empire carebears will have hard time keeping up :)
Your dam right mr alt, I'm at gates to kill those weaker than myself. If I see a target that odds on will toast me I'll just safe up or dock till they pass by.
We call it *waves fingers in air like dr evil* I-N-T-E-L-I-G-E-N-C-E
At least he's honest about it. Oh by the way it's intelligence.
Good luck and have fun.
Originally by: Eridu Fallen
Upon closer inspection, that Caldari BS doesn't even look like it got hit with the ugly stick, it looks like it *is* the ugly stick.
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Saint Lazarus
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:39:00 -
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Congrats I guess, though I hope the next threads I see about kleptos is from victims and not more self publicity
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:58:00 -
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Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 21/04/2007 05:55:28 meh, i personally don;t see this as a particularly dark day... for a couple of reasons:
1: is doesn't bring hardcore ganking into empire, which would be super(the only good reason for a fat pirate-corp wallet i can think of) 2: it doesn't alter your behaviors in the slightest(i.e. you're still going to be pretty much stationary as far as what system you're in at any give time goes) 3: it is a triumph of the english language, someone actually using a word to describe its intent... 4: this one's just for me, don't call yourselfs pirates... call yourselves space banditos! 5: I've acttually had a successful gatecamp now, it's a royal pain in the ass, so i salute you for managing to actually make money at it. 6:this one's just filler 7: you should totally gatecamp in haulers, just for ****s and giggles one time, and see if you manage to kill anything. 8: okay i'm done now.
edit oh i almost forgot good luck on your ventures. though i personally think you're a bit on the egotistical side from your threads i'd have to say you out SP me so i can't say much about it.
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