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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:28:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 19:48:33
Sometimes in eve a dark day comes, a day when bears from across eve know that they have some serious problems. Today iÆm pleased to say is such a day....
IÆm writing to tell you fellow evil pirates here about a new corp, a new corp with pirate ideals and heritage way beyond your average wannabes. Drawing from decades of combined gankage and grief play, Kleptomaniacs is in town and built from the ground up to bring eveÆs fluffier residents a fast and painless death, while providing us with plenty of loot and laughs along the way.
KLEPTO are a breakaway corp from SNOWY, with most of our members also from standard setting and game shaping rat corps including...
Venal Rangers Beer and Kebabs Mafia SNUFF Syndicate October Snow Muffin Factory INFOD
This is not a recruitment thread, I could not care less if you want to join us or not, but simply an announcement to the bears to be afraid. However, if you are a die hard gate camper of extraordinary skill and feel you have something to offer then plz convo me in game, we are recruiting but of course are pretty dam picky :)
Before handing over to the flamers IÆd like to explain why I and other key members from SNOWY left, and though the flame haired one who I shall not mention here told me not too, I will explain.
When I joined SNOWY there was a 100% to corp loot policy, I struggled for weeks with this and after many members expressed concerns it was decided that a 50% to corp policy be adopted. Now, though good in practice if I spend 5hrs with a couple of guys camping a gate I am certainly not gonna share it with my whole corp (translation - make my CEOs wallet fat), the flame haired one was unhappy with this and on learning that I shared the gate isk with gang mates asked me to leave accusing me of being greedy.
Once I was accused of this the corp went back to 100% to corp mode, with it being explained to members that 'youre not in the corp to get rich' (translation : you're here to make the CEO rich slaves!)
I am not and will never camp for hours just to fund someoneÆs desire to buy a mothership......the dream team that was October Snow came to a end and became a shadow of itÆs former self .
Well, Enough of my ramblings, back to the game, back to gank some nubs and no doubt force those who canÆt win in game to petition us as it's the only way they can win.
IÆll leave you with the dictionary definition of our corp û
klepòtoòmaòniòa - An obsessive impulse to steal regardless of economic need.
Cry me a river bears, cry me a river.
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Lucifer Fellblade
Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:30:00 -
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Alt corp goes pirate, I like it.
Good luck. ------
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Wind Ictiva
Delta Kappa Gamma
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:31:00 -
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so you still eve¦s nr. 2 pvper?
I was young and needed the money |

Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:40:00 -
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100% to corp??? 
WTF is up with that? I hope they had a first rate ship/mod replacement program and even then .
Certainly it is cool that some go to the corp for that Nyx someday and other fiddly bits corps need to do but seems the corp was pirating its pirates. Maybe there is some poetic justice in that but I can't imagine why ANYONE would agree to those terms.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:42:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 19:42:12
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h 100% to corp??? 
WTF is up with that? I hope they had a first rate ship/mod replacement program and even then .
Certainly it is cool that some go to the corp for that Nyx someday and other fiddly bits corps need to do but seems the corp was pirating its pirates. Maybe there is some poetic justice in that but I can't imagine why ANYONE would agree to those terms.
There was a replacement policy, but not if it was your own fault. The thing is, most times you lose a ship it is YOUR OWN FAULT. You also get full access to t1 module and ammo hangar :x
Sure SNOWY did buy a few cap ships for members and even replaced a carrier for me, but the majority of the isk goes AWOL. I'd estimate 50-75% is missing, presumed in CEOs wallet.
I have nothing against SNOWY, some of my best m8s from eve are still in there... including the CEO, I just disagree with their loot policy hence my absence from the corp.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:03:00 -
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Ahh! Kapads old corp. :]
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:08:00 -
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Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Ahh! Kapads old corp. :]
For sure, Kapads is one of the key members and founder. I don't know if you have flown with him but I've never known such a laid back pilot. I've seen him warp his Dom into 20 cruisers at a planet for a 1 vs 20 and stay calm.
Crazy Aussie, but one of the best pirates about IMHO 
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:47:00 -
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I've left piracy, but I just can't help but feel warm and gooey inside when I hear you make carebears cry.
________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people! |

ZuN3
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 20:56:00 -
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Yarrrrr! Great corp name too. 
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:05:00 -
[10]
Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 21:08:45
Originally by: ZuN3 Yarrrrr! Great corp name too. 
And great corp policys....
1. kill everything or ransom depending on which generates more isk. 2. share all the loot with the gang (one guy in gang will buy loot and split isk)
Corp makes nothing, members make isk they deserve and have fun.
The way it should be....
ISK is the driving force in eve, everyone wants bigger better ships to help them get the edge in PVP. Anyone who says they have no drive from gaining isk is either -
1. rich already 2. has slave corp making it for him / carebear alt 3. stupid 4. a liar
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Corp makes nothing, members make isk they deserve and have fun.
The way it should be....
Well...corp should make SOME money. Gotta pay for Office rentals, perhaps the occasional war dec. Can be other things but at least those deserve a dribble of ISK from members to keep going. If you ever want a corp Nyx or somesuch then of course you have a serious need for cashflow (or a carebear ALT corp funding it all).
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:18:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 21:15:09
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: tiller Corp makes nothing, members make isk they deserve and have fun.
The way it should be....
Well...corp should make SOME money. Gotta pay for Office rentals, perhaps the occasional war dec. Can be other things but at least those deserve a dribble of ISK from members to keep going. If you ever want a corp Nyx or somesuch then of course you have a serious need for cashflow (or a carebear ALT corp funding it all).
That is not true, office rentals cost as good as nothing... war decs are for those who want to kill people but afraid to risk losing sec status.
There is no place in eve for pirate corps with fat bloated corp wallets... it just doesn't work. A good pirate can make plenty of isk, you don't have to beg your corp for handouts...
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PCaBoo
Dirt Nap Squad FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:27:00 -
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With a decent corp tax, you can put up your own gank-a-pos! Sure the targets are few, but the laughs are plenty!
________________________________ Caldari's are the Chosen people! |

zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:32:00 -
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havoc 2 sa bears...
with zwerg soon 
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:34:00 -
[15]
Edited by: Imperator Jora''h on 20/04/2007 21:31:11
Originally by: tiller That is not true, office rentals cost as good as nothing... war decs are for those who want to kill people but afraid to risk losing sec status.
There is no place in eve for pirate corps with fat bloated corp wallets... it just doesn't work. A good pirate can make plenty of isk, you don't have to beg your corp for handouts...
Guess I am just used to industrial style corps with many offices all over. Cheap they may be but can add up enough that one player shouldn't be burdened paying for it all. Guess as a pirate corp one or two Offices are plenty. Not to mention all the buying of mats and lab rentals and factory rentals and so on indie corps face.
War decs though...seems like pirate corps occasionally get annoyed with someone enough to go that route and with the new war dec pricing changes a few of those could add up too but I guess if you will never go there then no biggie.
But that mothership...the solopwnmobile of piracy...a lofty but worthy goal (although tbh CCP has got to have a nerf in store for those at some point). Still drool worthy though and a solid addition to any pirate fleet.
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Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.04.20 22:26:00 -
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Thanks for the heads up.
_
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Oro Sarmasa
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.20 22:43:00 -
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You're a damn good pirate, tiller. And I applaud your decision.
I find it hard to believe SNOWY had such a corporate-slave policy... I guess Ginger's a bigger asshat than I thought. 
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Igrayne
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:39:00 -
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Yo tiller great fun flying with you kap and tub, im too drunk to really notice anything about isk from camps, the only one that sticks out was that once in a lifetime hauler which i would have wanted a fair share of!!
No doubt seeing a lot of u guys in the future even i can manage to jump a system or 2.
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murder one
Gallente Death of Virtue
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:52:00 -
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Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 21:15:09
Originally by: Imperator Jora'h
Originally by: tiller Corp makes nothing, members make isk they deserve and have fun.
The way it should be....
Well...corp should make SOME money. Gotta pay for Office rentals, perhaps the occasional war dec. Can be other things but at least those deserve a dribble of ISK from members to keep going. If you ever want a corp Nyx or somesuch then of course you have a serious need for cashflow (or a carebear ALT corp funding it all).
That is not true, office rentals cost as good as nothing... war decs are for those who want to kill people but afraid to risk losing sec status.
There is no place in eve for pirate corps with fat bloated corp wallets... it just doesn't work. A good pirate can make plenty of isk, you don't have to beg your corp for handouts...
Hells yes Tiller.
Because I said so...
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:54:00 -
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so i guess ur loot policy will be different to the snowy one that drove you away 
DE
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jimmyjam
Gallente Turbulent
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Posted - 2007.04.20 23:58:00 -
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Edited by: jimmyjam on 20/04/2007 23:58:48 Sounds like a cool corp, you guys should come back to placid/ost area. Spelling
Metagaming is a broad term usually used to define any strategy, action or method used in a game which transcends a prescribed ruleset, uses external factors to affect the game, |

SibSpi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.21 00:34:00 -
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 I wonder where you'll head ------------- When in doubt, F1->F8... |

Grant Smith
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.21 01:04:00 -
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Good question. Where are you heading? Feel free to help us come kill some NMTZ and 5thC. Can't express enough how poor the yield is from them though! But for ****s and giggles, first class! 
Yarrr n' all that. 
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Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.21 02:52:00 -
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Nice.
Good move quitting if that was the policy...I mean FFS that's not piracy that's slave labor. The policy you've set up is the way I would do if I were to organize a corp - even share all around, no favoritism, no communism, no bull****.
Good luck with your future endeavors, and might I ask you don't agree with Grant and come down here, we've got few enough targets as it is what with INFOD doing their camping thing...annoying though it may be, they've certainly got it down to a science.
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.21 03:01:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Ahh! Kapads old corp. :]
For sure, Kapads is one of the key members and founder. I don't know if you have flown with him but I've never known such a laid back pilot. I've seen him warp his Dom into 20 cruisers at a planet for a 1 vs 20 and stay calm.
Crazy Aussie, but one of the best pirates about IMHO 
Kapads used to be in my corp. - one of our best, definitely. Laid back is the word for it, he spoke more through his actions and proficiency as a pirate more than anything else.
Now it's almost getting sentimental here, so I'm going to go murder someone just to feel less dirty.
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Whineroy
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:08:00 -
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Indeed, definitely a time for empire carebears to mourn... After all, you "camp, warp away at sign of danger and then boast about being cool ebil pirates"- gankers are out-carebearing empire carebears to such nth degree that empire carebears will have hard time keeping up :)
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Whineroy Indeed, definitely a time for empire carebears to mourn... After all, you "camp, warp away at sign of danger and then boast about being cool ebil pirates"- gankers are out-carebearing empire carebears to such nth degree that empire carebears will have hard time keeping up :)
Your dam right mr alt, I'm at gates to kill those weaker than myself. If I see a target that odds on will toast me I'll just safe up or dock till they pass by.
We call it *waves fingers in air like dr evil* I-N-T-E-L-I-G-E-N-C-E
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Red Six
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Whineroy Indeed, definitely a time for empire carebears to mourn... After all, you "camp, warp away at sign of danger and then boast about being cool ebil pirates"- gankers are out-carebearing empire carebears to such nth degree that empire carebears will have hard time keeping up :)
Your dam right mr alt, I'm at gates to kill those weaker than myself. If I see a target that odds on will toast me I'll just safe up or dock till they pass by.
We call it *waves fingers in air like dr evil* I-N-T-E-L-I-G-E-N-C-E
At least he's honest about it. Oh by the way it's intelligence.
Good luck and have fun.
Originally by: Eridu Fallen
Upon closer inspection, that Caldari BS doesn't even look like it got hit with the ugly stick, it looks like it *is* the ugly stick.
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Saint Lazarus
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:39:00 -
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Congrats I guess, though I hope the next threads I see about kleptos is from victims and not more self publicity 
:insert cool signature here: |

Hypatia Iola
Caldari Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 05:58:00 -
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Edited by: Hypatia Iola on 21/04/2007 05:55:28 meh, i personally don;t see this as a particularly dark day... for a couple of reasons:
1: is doesn't bring hardcore ganking into empire, which would be super(the only good reason for a fat pirate-corp wallet i can think of) 2: it doesn't alter your behaviors in the slightest(i.e. you're still going to be pretty much stationary as far as what system you're in at any give time goes) 3: it is a triumph of the english language, someone actually using a word to describe its intent... 4: this one's just for me, don't call yourselfs pirates... call yourselves space banditos! 5: I've acttually had a successful gatecamp now, it's a royal pain in the ass, so i salute you for managing to actually make money at it. 6:this one's just filler 7: you should totally gatecamp in haulers, just for ****s and giggles one time, and see if you manage to kill anything. 8: okay i'm done now.
edit oh i almost forgot good luck on your ventures. though i personally think you're a bit on the egotistical side from your threads i'd have to say you out SP me so i can't say much about it.
I represent only my own views, they just happen to be the right ones. |

Lithalnas
Amarr Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.04.21 06:15:00 -
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Just wondering, why should carebears be any more afraid than they already were. If you think about it the number of ebil pirates has not changed, only their corp tags have changed. ------------- Hadean Drive Yards The EvE inflation, 80 Macro miners, 1.5b isk/day |

Hyuuga Veralis
Pator Tech School
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Posted - 2007.04.21 06:38:00 -
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Edited by: Hyuuga Veralis on 21/04/2007 06:38:38
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 20:19:49
Sometimes in eve a dark day comes, a day when bears from across eve know that they have some serious problems. Today iÆm pleased to say is such a day....
IÆm writing to tell you fellow evil pirates here about a new corp, a new corp with pirate ideals and heritage way beyond your average wannabes. Drawing from decades of combined gankage and grief play, Kleptomaniacs is in town and built from the ground up to bring eveÆs fluffier residents a fast and painless death, while providing us with plenty of loot and laughs along the way.
KLEPTO are a breakaway corp from SNOWY, with most of our members also from standard setting and game shaping rat corps including...
Venal Rangers Beer and Kebabs Mafia SNUFF Syndicate October Snow Muffin Factory INFOD
This is not a recruitment thread, I could not care less if you want to join us or not, but simply an announcement to the bears to be afraid. However, if you are a die hard gate camper of extraordinary skill and feel you have something to offer then plz convo me in game, we are recruiting but of course are pretty dam picky :)
Before handing over to the flamers IÆd like to explain why I and other key members from SNOWY left, and though the flame haired one who I shall not mention here told me not too, I will explain.
When I joined SNOWY there was a 100% to corp loot policy, I struggled for weeks with this and after many members expressed concerns it was decided that a 50% to corp policy be adopted. Now, though good in practice if I spend 5hrs with a couple of guys camping a gate I am certainly not gonna share it with my whole corp (translation - make my CEOs wallet fat), the flame haired one was unhappy with this and on learning that I shared the gate isk with gang mates asked me to leave accusing me of being greedy.
Once I was accused of this the corp went back to 100% to corp mode, with it being explained to members that 'youre not in the corp to get rich' (translation : you're here to make the CEO rich slaves!)
I am not and will never camp for hours just to fund someoneÆs desire to buy a mothership......the dream team that was October Snow came to a end and became a shadow of itÆs former self .
Well, Enough of my ramblings, back to the game, back to gank some nubs and no doubt force those who canÆt win in game to petition us as it's the only way they can win.
IÆll leave you with the dictionary definition of our corp û
klepòtoòmaòniòa - An obsessive impulse to steal regardless of economic need.
Cry me a river bears, cry me a river.
I'm happy for you. You and others joining OctoberSnow simply gave undeserved prestige to a corp that got known due to an over inflated ego. Personally, if I was told there was a 100% corp-loot policy, I'd lie. I'd lie like the devil when I looted a can.
Greedy CEO: "Hey anything good in that indy?" Me: "No, just crap." /me warps to station and drops off extremely valuble T2 bpo due to... needing more ammo, yeah that's it.
edit: I hope your corp has the common sense to not boast about being God's gift to EVE PvP due to gatecamping though. Gate camping isn't about skill, it's about ISK, and while some think the luck of victim loot = skill, we both know that's not true, there's only so much skill in it.
Unless you're in a MS with officer smartbombs, then there is no skill.
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Miz Cenuij
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 08:58:00 -
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No Skill? It takes haxor timing of the F buttons to be a winn0r like me !
"Men are going to die..
and im going to kill them". |

Raziel Saston
Deviance Cartel
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Posted - 2007.04.21 09:55:00 -
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Goodluck with the new corp Tiller. It's mainly for the same reasons we stopped doing camps with Snowy, well that and the insane amount in the camps. Sorta took the fun out of it when theres up to 20 in the gang.
As for your corp policies that's very fair. We have a 50/50 policy to corp and members. The corp pays for insurance on member ships and when it reaches an amount like a bill isk it will either do a payout or buy something that all members want like exotic dancers 
Oh and tell Kapads i said hi, hes a good pilot.
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LudoO
Gallente OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 10:00:00 -
[35]
Tiller, my Title was upgraded from Backstreet boy, now its britney spears.  The next best thing after kicking ass is to talk about kicking ass. |

Vladic Ka
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 10:41:00 -
[36]
Well you have went up in my book.
Please kill stuff in game and not self promote here now.
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Triniton
Minmatar Zombie Inc.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:13:00 -
[37]
Nice name..
ZOMBIE PRUNES!
ZOMBIE PRUNES! ZOMBIE PRUNES! |

Jex Jast
Go for the booty
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:15:00 -
[38]
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Whineroy Indeed, definitely a time for empire carebears to mourn... After all, you "camp, warp away at sign of danger and then boast about being cool ebil pirates"- gankers are out-carebearing empire carebears to such nth degree that empire carebears will have hard time keeping up :)
Your dam right mr alt, I'm at gates to kill those weaker than myself. If I see a target that odds on will toast me I'll just safe up or dock till they pass by.
We call it *waves fingers in air like dr evil* I-N-T-E-L-I-G-E-N-C-E
QFFT FFS
It's amazing that the carebears just don't get it. We're a business like you! Do you do things that will set back your business in the name of "honor" or "bravery"? Of course not. Hell most of the time carebears either sit in station or mine, their only interaction with others is smack via local and an occasional business deal.
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:41:00 -
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Well I shoudl reply to this I suppose. The corp policy of Snowy has been the same since I started accepting members other than my alts in the corp.The aim of the policy is collective acheivement.If u want to make isk then dont become a pirate go mine some veld or whatever they do nowadays. If u join Snowy u get the best pvp plus free replacement of losses and assitance with modules/implants and fittings. I'm afraid Klepto is merely a collection of greedy loot thieves who have no chance of defending the area they are pirating merely logging off as soon as anything bigger than a hauler comes through. Atm they are enjoying the fruits of other labours in clearing the pocket. How long this will last remains to be seen.
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zwerg
mUfFiN fAcToRy Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:43:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Ginger Magician Well I shoudl reply to this I suppose. The corp policy of Snowy has been the same since I started accepting members other than my alts in the corp.The aim of the policy is collective acheivement.If u want to make isk then dont become a pirate go mine some veld or whatever they do nowadays. If u join Snowy u get the best pvp plus free replacement of losses and assitance with modules/implants and fittings. I'm afraid Klepto is merely a collection of greedy loot thieves who have no chance of defending the area they are pirating merely logging off as soon as anything bigger than a hauler comes through. Atm they are enjoying the fruits of other labours in clearing the pocket. How long this will last remains to be seen.
I dont even read this scumbag, but look @ c&p forums in 10mins, nice thread about your doing.
... eve's youngest piwat Yarrrr :)
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Alita Tiphares
Aztek Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:42:00 -
[41]
so all this time you were just gingers slave? rofl..
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 12:53:00 -
[42]
Edited by: tiller on 21/04/2007 12:58:32
Originally by: Ginger Magician Well I shoudl reply to this I suppose. The corp policy of Snowy has been the same since I started accepting members other than my alts in the corp.The aim of the policy is collective acheivement.If u want to make isk then dont become a pirate go mine some veld or whatever they do nowadays. If u join Snowy u get the best pvp plus free replacement of losses and assitance with modules/implants and fittings. I'm afraid Klepto is merely a collection of greedy loot thieves who have no chance of defending the area they are pirating merely logging off as soon as anything bigger than a hauler comes through. Atm they are enjoying the fruits of other labours in clearing the pocket. How long this will last remains to be seen.
Fancy wanting to enjoy fruits of labour, who'd of thought it ehhh. I pirate to make isk, and I'm dam good at it. Those who don't make isk don't deserve to be pirating imho.
Well, it seems plenty of your members agree, I count around 8-9 who are / will be in Klepto soon... I guess that says something for your flawed loot policys.
All your left with on the whole m8 is the nubs / new recruits... gl with enslaving them. They will see the light soon enough as they watch their hard earned isk dissappear into your fat wallet.
btw, did your corp m8s agree to you just buying that vindi we spotted flying past, I believe thats the 2nd one... the other day you said faction ships were worthless and a waste of isk for people who are greedy.
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:03:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Alita Tiphares so all this time you were just gingers slave? rofl..
basically yes 
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Velsharoon
Gallente Endgame.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:22:00 -
[44]
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Alita Tiphares so all this time you were just gingers slave? rofl..
basically yes 
More fool you for not realising, but as i said in zwergs other thread welcome back to gaining some respectablity :)
Which ofc means nothing to you ;)
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Tassi
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:26:00 -
[45]
Well tiller, if doesn't work out for you, INFOD is still looking for some yarrbrothers 
And @ ginger, INFOD would whoop ya ass dood.
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Drunk Driver
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:46:00 -
[46]
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 20/04/2007 20:19:49
Sometimes in eve a dark day comes, a day when bears from across eve know that they have some serious problems. Today iÆm pleased to say is such a day....
IÆm writing to tell you fellow evil pirates here about a new corp, a new corp with pirate ideals and heritage way beyond your average wannabes. Drawing from decades of combined gankage and grief play, Kleptomaniacs is in town and built from the ground up to bring eveÆs fluffier residents a fast and painless death, while providing us with plenty of loot and laughs along the way.
KLEPTO are a breakaway corp from SNOWY, with most of our members also from standard setting and game shaping rat corps including...
Venal Rangers Beer and Kebabs Mafia SNUFF Syndicate October Snow Muffin Factory INFOD
This is not a recruitment thread, I could not care less if you want to join us or not, but simply an announcement to the bears to be afraid. However, if you are a die hard gate camper of extraordinary skill and feel you have something to offer then plz convo me in game, we are recruiting but of course are pretty dam picky :)
Before handing over to the flamers IÆd like to explain why I and other key members from SNOWY left, and though the flame haired one who I shall not mention here told me not too, I will explain.
When I joined SNOWY there was a 100% to corp loot policy, I struggled for weeks with this and after many members expressed concerns it was decided that a 50% to corp policy be adopted. Now, though good in practice if I spend 5hrs with a couple of guys camping a gate I am certainly not gonna share it with my whole corp (translation - make my CEOs wallet fat), the flame haired one was unhappy with this and on learning that I shared the gate isk with gang mates asked me to leave accusing me of being greedy.
Once I was accused of this the corp went back to 100% to corp mode, with it being explained to members that 'youre not in the corp to get rich' (translation : you're here to make the CEO rich slaves!)
I am not and will never camp for hours just to fund someoneÆs desire to buy a mothership......the dream team that was October Snow came to a end and became a shadow of itÆs former self .
Well, Enough of my ramblings, back to the game, back to gank some nubs and no doubt force those who canÆt win in game to petition us as it's the only way they can win.
IÆll leave you with the dictionary definition of our corp û
klepòtoòmaòniòa - An obsessive impulse to steal regardless of economic need.
Cry me a river bears, cry me a river.
This post makes you sound like a loser and an idiot.
Can't you find any new material?
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:49:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 21/04/2007 14:45:11
Originally by: Drunk Driver
This post makes you sound like a loser and an idiot.
Can't you find any new material?

Boohoo 
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Stormreaper
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.21 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Well I shoudl reply to this I suppose. The corp policy of Snowy has been the same since I started accepting members other than my alts in the corp.The aim of the policy is collective acheivement.If u want to make isk then dont become a pirate go mine some veld or whatever they do nowadays. If u join Snowy u get the best pvp plus free replacement of losses and assitance with modules/implants and fittings. I'm afraid Klepto is merely a collection of greedy loot thieves who have no chance of defending the area they are pirating merely logging off as soon as anything bigger than a hauler comes through. Atm they are enjoying the fruits of other labours in clearing the pocket. How long this will last remains to be seen.
You've logged off in an attempt to save your carrier before.
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Stormreaper
Minmatar Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2007.04.21 15:28:00 -
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Edited by: Stormreaper on 21/04/2007 15:24:50 also. Im not sure if tiller will remember me saying ages ago "Tbh Ginger, tiller is a better pirate then you..." Just wondered if ginger ever said anything about that on TS?
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Verone
Gallente Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 15:32:00 -
[50]
Nice job tiller.
Getting a new name off the ground is always difficult. Still, with a solid core memberbase you should find things easier.
Good luck with starting the new corp mate.
 
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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Hypatia Iola
Caldari Central Defiance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 16:43:00 -
[51]
i just want to point something out:
tiller apparenmtly you're really not all that hated, which confuses the hell out of me. i joined Eve right aboiut the time you joined Snowy, and the whole time, whenever i saw you post, about 50 people flamed it IMMEDIATELY, and then stragglers came in for a day or so to toss on their verbal napalm. So far i've seen 2 bona fide flames here... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
I've actually heard people say "good Luck!?!" goodwill towards tiller? What the hell? did i miss a memo? i just thought i'd point it out b/c it's kinda freakin out my little world man...
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James Snowscoran
Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.21 16:56:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Hypatia Iola i just want to point something out:
tiller apparenmtly you're really not all that hated, which confuses the hell out of me. i joined Eve right aboiut the time you joined Snowy, and the whole time, whenever i saw you post, about 50 people flamed it IMMEDIATELY, and then stragglers came in for a day or so to toss on their verbal napalm. So far i've seen 2 bona fide flames here... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
I've actually heard people say "good Luck!?!" goodwill towards tiller? What the hell? did i miss a memo? i just thought i'd point it out b/c it's kinda freakin out my little world man...
Octobersnow corp has a really crappy rep on the boards. Tiller is hated by many carebears but he isn't quite as good as GM to make people upset. -----
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Tobias Sjodin
Caldari Ore Mongers R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.21 16:56:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Hypatia Iola i just want to point something out:
tiller apparenmtly you're really not all that hated, which confuses the hell out of me. i joined Eve right aboiut the time you joined Snowy, and the whole time, whenever i saw you post, about 50 people flamed it IMMEDIATELY, and then stragglers came in for a day or so to toss on their verbal napalm. So far i've seen 2 bona fide flames here... Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
I've actually heard people say "good Luck!?!" goodwill towards tiller? What the hell? did i miss a memo? i just thought i'd point it out b/c it's kinda freakin out my little world man...
If you're friends with the leper, you become the leper. He left and dissed the leper, and is away with some blemishes, but his past in BNK still gives him a better rep than most.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:40:00 -
[54]
Oh, Tiller! You had me laughing for minutes! The best anti-Ginger thread--ever.
"100% to corp wallet policy"

"50% to 75% AWOL... presumabely in the CEO's wallet"

So you are saying, that EVE's self-proclaimed number one pvper makes his money by... ::drum roll:: robbing his corpmates?
Hahahaha.... my sides are starting to hurt...
ps. I kinda side with that alt, gate camping is lame, and the "carebearing" of piracy.
-Karl
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Madorthene
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:43:00 -
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******* A, tiller. That's exactly the reason I left SNOWY on my prev. character. I'm tempted as hell to put an app in, but I have a lovely sec status now that lets me hump veld in highsec. 
I'll throw you an evemail ingame, if you have an idea about who I am yet. 
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:46:00 -
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Originally by: Tassi Well tiller, if doesn't work out for you, INFOD is still looking for some yarrbrothers 
And @ ginger, INFOD would whoop ya ass dood.
You have over 100 members yet your corp is nothing compared to snowy. Who are u anyway?
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:49:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Ginger Magician Well I shoudl reply to this I suppose. The corp policy of Snowy has been the same since I started accepting members other than my alts in the corp.The aim of the policy is collective acheivement.If u want to make isk then dont become a pirate go mine some veld or whatever they do nowadays. If u join Snowy u get the best pvp plus free replacement of losses and assitance with modules/implants and fittings. I'm afraid Klepto is merely a collection of greedy loot thieves who have no chance of defending the area they are pirating merely logging off as soon as anything bigger than a hauler comes through. Atm they are enjoying the fruits of other labours in clearing the pocket. How long this will last remains to be seen.
Wahahahahahahaha...
So you don't become a pirate to get rich, or earn money? Why exactly does one pirate for a living in eve, Ginger? The joy of pvp is part of it, but if you've really convinced your corpmates to give you all of their money then I've got some very nice property for sale on the north pole they might be interested in.
I am sure that all the money that Snowy makes for the "corp" gets equally distrabuted correct? Oh, wait, 50% to 75% goes to your wallet... and the rest to "ships"... ahahaha...
You are the "best" pvper in eve who makes his money by glorified corp thiefing.
wtg!
-Karl
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:49:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 21/04/2007 17:46:05 dp
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 16/03/2007 14:07:36 whereas those who constantly and deilberately exploit every possible aspect of the game mechanics get away scott free. |

Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 17:51:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 21/04/2007 17:48:17
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 21/04/2007 13:36:02
Originally by: Ginger Magician Well I shoudl reply to this I suppose. The corp policy of Snowy has been the same since I started accepting members other than my alts in the corp.The aim of the policy is collective acheivement.If u want to make isk then dont become a pirate go mine some veld or whatever they do nowadays. If u join Snowy u get the best pvp plus free replacement of losses and assitance with modules/implants and fittings. I'm afraid Klepto is merely a collection of greedy loot thieves who have no chance of defending the area they are pirating merely logging off as soon as anything bigger than a hauler comes through. Atm they are enjoying the fruits of other labours in clearing the pocket. How long this will last remains to be seen.
Fancy wanting to enjoy fruits of labour, who'd of thought it ehhh. I pirate to make isk, and I'm dam good at it. Those who don't make isk don't deserve to be pirating imho.
Well, it seems plenty of your members agree, I count around 8-9 who are / will be in Klepto soon... I guess that says something for your flawed loot policys.
All your left with on the whole m8 is the nubs / new recruits... gl with enslaving them. They will see the light soon enough as they watch their hard earned isk dissappear into your fat wallet.
Mate I'm more than happy to be rid of your useless fanbois who play like 5 hrs a week each. I already noticed u took a number of losses since u left snowy.Ull soon be back to mission running to finace a new rattlesnake imo. Whst u fail to realise is that my supreme tactics and leadership led to snowy becoming the succes it has and will continue to be.I think u will find running your little corp harder than u think.
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:04:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician Edited by: Ginger Magician on 21/04/2007 17:48:17
Originally by: tiller Edited by: tiller on 21/04/2007 13:36:02
Originally by: Ginger Magician Well I shoudl reply to this I suppose. The corp policy of Snowy has been the same since I started accepting members other than my alts in the corp.The aim of the policy is collective acheivement.If u want to make isk then dont become a pirate go mine some veld or whatever they do nowadays. If u join Snowy u get the best pvp plus free replacement of losses and assitance with modules/implants and fittings. I'm afraid Klepto is merely a collection of greedy loot thieves who have no chance of defending the area they are pirating merely logging off as soon as anything bigger than a hauler comes through. Atm they are enjoying the fruits of other labours in clearing the pocket. How long this will last remains to be seen.
Fancy wanting to enjoy fruits of labour, who'd of thought it ehhh. I pirate to make isk, and I'm dam good at it. Those who don't make isk don't deserve to be pirating imho.
Well, it seems plenty of your members agree, I count around 8-9 who are / will be in Klepto soon... I guess that says something for your flawed loot policys.
All your left with on the whole m8 is the nubs / new recruits... gl with enslaving them. They will see the light soon enough as they watch their hard earned isk dissappear into your fat wallet.
Mate I'm more than happy to be rid of your useless fanbois who play like 5 hrs a week each. I already noticed u took a number of losses since u left snowy.Ull soon be back to mission running to finace a new rattlesnake imo. Whst u fail to realise is that my supreme tactics and leadership led to snowy becoming the succes it has and will continue to be.I think u will find running your little corp harder than u think.
Ginger, EVE's numero uno corpthief, are you entirely sure that English is your first language? I'm really having a hard time following you nowadays.
-Karl
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:06:00 -
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Originally by: Madorthene Edited by: Madorthene on 21/04/2007 17:55:20
Originally by: Ginger Magician stuff
Don't be bitter, ginger. In my time in snowy, I couldn't supress the feeling that you were a bit of a ****, but that's a personal opinion.
We all know you spice up your posts for forum drama, but you appear bitter here.
Sure, you were able to manage a decent gatecamping corp. Please, don't take it as an insult, but it's all snowy did. My month in snowy was spent in one system, camping one gate. I made no isk in that time.
That's the flaw right there. And tbh, there are now two choices available. Your corp, with all loot going to you for a ms (which I honestly expect you to lose, as like it or not you aren't much of a cap pilot), or tillers' new corp.
And tbh, from the looks of it, this new corp looks to be all the effeciency of SNOWY, and then some, but with easy going, decent people, and fair sharing of loot.
Guess which will be more popular. 
You were a useless newb who should never have been accepted in snowy in the first place and u were kicked out cause u had no mic and u were inactive. Members of snwoy who are loyal and worthy receive many benefits including capital ships that they could never afford solo or in other corps. How exactly u can tell I am not a good capital pilot is beyond me.I have more kills using capital ships than any other pilot in eve history. Like the rest of my pvp records and acheivements in the game it leaves the others in the shade
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
I have more kills using capital ships than any other pilot in eve history.
What? You killed a bunch of newb ships with a smart bombing capital? Maybe, but I would like even proof that those add up to more kills in a capital ship then any other eve pilot in "history." As is common on these forums:
"Proof or stfu."
I bet you also come pretty close to the "most capital ships lost by any one pilot in eve history" award.
-Karl
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:12:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 21/04/2007 18:10:26
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Mate I'm more than happy to be rid of your useless fanbois who play like 5 hrs a week each. I already noticed u took a number of losses since u left snowy.Ull soon be back to mission running to finace a new rattlesnake imo. Whst u fail to realise is that my supreme tactics and leadership led to snowy becoming the succes it has and will continue to be.I think u will find running your little corp harder than u think.
The 'useless fanbois' you talk of make up 75% of your active corp. They followed your sometimes rediculous orders to the tee. Some fine examples spring to mind...
- Sending 10bill isk of ships to gank a pos for no reason, not even a enemy of ours. Then when our scout spots known enemy fleet massing you continue to ignore it.
- Warping 4 of our carriers to a 'unscouted' highsec gate.. nice one
In fact, at least once a week your pride and lack of fear in PVP got us in serious trouble. I lost track of the time I logged on to find 'the snowy camp' had been wiped out while I was offline.
Losing 12 carriers like others have said before shows your inability to learn from your mistakes and at the same time insults the rest of the corp (they have to put hrs of work in to pay for your obsession)
Still, taking losses means nothing to you, you have a limitless supply of isk from your corp slaves.
Your right though, the day I run out of isk and ships is the day I would probably run some lvl4s, however, you miss one key fact, I'm a gate camping isk machine... and can generate isk with little of no effort on my part. (you yourself should know this by the amount of times you stamped your feet asking me to handover large hauls of loot I had earned)
btw, if anyone ever wants to take on gingers carrier on a SNOWY camp here is some info which will help you....
- he orbits gate at 40km, use a cov ops to get a warp in
- he fits 2 stabs
- he has a cyno alt up a couple jumps away
- camps often lack any real dps
- don't jump your blob into next system as scouts protect both joining sys
The rest you can work out, it's a easy job but check Miz aint online first :-) (though he'll cyno as soon as any blob arrives I guarantee)
Use bait ship, tackle, then bring ya fleet...
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Madorthene
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ginger Magician
Originally by: Madorthene Edited by: Madorthene on 21/04/2007 17:55:20
Originally by: Ginger Magician stuff
Don't be bitter, ginger. In my time in snowy, I couldn't supress the feeling that you were a bit of a ****, but that's a personal opinion.
We all know you spice up your posts for forum drama, but you appear bitter here.
Sure, you were able to manage a decent gatecamping corp. Please, don't take it as an insult, but it's all snowy did. My month in snowy was spent in one system, camping one gate. I made no isk in that time.
That's the flaw right there. And tbh, there are now two choices available. Your corp, with all loot going to you for a ms (which I honestly expect you to lose, as like it or not you aren't much of a cap pilot), or tillers' new corp.
And tbh, from the looks of it, this new corp looks to be all the effeciency of SNOWY, and then some, but with easy going, decent people, and fair sharing of loot.
Guess which will be more popular. 
You were a useless newb who should never have been accepted in snowy in the first place and u were kicked out cause u had no mic and u were inactive. Members of snwoy who are loyal and worthy receive many benefits including capital ships that they could never afford solo or in other corps. How exactly u can tell I am not a good capital pilot is beyond me.I have more kills using capital ships than any other pilot in eve history. Like the rest of my pvp records and acheivements in the game it leaves the others in the shade
Heh, kicked out? I left of my own accord, even recieved an evemail from you asking why I left, saying it was a shame that I was moving on. 
I was hardly inactive, too.
And hey, anyone who camps a nice spot with an organized group will ofc get mucho kills. But despite having a nice setup and a very safe way of farming, you've still lost a whole load of carriers. As I said, don't take it as a personal attack. You just aren't very good in a carrier. IMO there are far better things to do with those billions you have.
Good luck for SNOWY. You weren't that bad a person ingame, and I know your forum personality is very much different.
I won't bother saying that youre nothing special; deep down, I reckon you know it. And it makes the denials on the forum all more amusing for me. 
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Ginger Magician
Minmatar OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:23:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Ginger Magician on 21/04/2007 18:22:42
Originally by: tiller
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Mate I'm more than happy to be rid of your useless fanbois who play like 5 hrs a week each. I already noticed u took a number of losses since u left snowy.Ull soon be back to mission running to finace a new rattlesnake imo. Whst u fail to realise is that my supreme tactics and leadership led to snowy becoming the succes it has and will continue to be.I think u will find running your little corp harder than u think.
The 'useless fanbois' you talk of make up 75% of your active corp. They followed your sometimes rediculous orders to the tee. Some fine examples spring to mind...
- Sending 10bill isk of ships to gank a pos for no reason, not even a enemy of ours. Then when our scout spots known enemy fleet massing you continue to ignore it.
- Warping 4 of our carriers to a 'unscouted' highsec gate.. nice one
In fact, at least once a week your pride and lack of fear in PVP got us in serious trouble. I lost track of the time I logged on to find 'the snowy camp' had been wiped out while I was offline.
Losing 12 carriers like others have said before shows your inability to learn from your mistakes and at the same time insults the rest of the corp (they have to put hrs of work in to pay for your obsession)
Still, taking losses means nothing to you, you have a limitless supply of isk from your corp slaves.
Your right though, the day I run out of isk and ships is the day I would probably run some lvl4s, however, you miss one key fact, I'm a gate camping isk machine... and can generate isk with little of no effort on my part. (you yourself should know this by the ammount of times you stamped your feet asking me to handover large hauls of loot I had taken)
btw, if anyone ever wants to take on gingers carrier on a SNOWY camp here is some info which will help you....
- he orbits gate at 40km, use a cov ops to get a warp in
- he fits 2 stabs
- he has a cyno alt up a couple jumps away
- camps often lack any real dps
- don't jump your blob into next system as scouts protect both joining sys
The rest you can work out, it's a easy job but check Miz aint online first :-) (though he cyno run any blob I guarantee)
Use bait ship, tackle then bring ya fleet...
Man ur stupid. The 2 dreads and carrier lost at the pos were caused because of the 7 capital ships that cynoed in on us from we know not where were not the few bs that were assembled in the other sytem. To have a capital fleet of that size ready and assembled in the space of the 20-30mins we had been at the pos when we didnt even know ourselves we were going to be there until 10 mins previous was not something anyone could predict.And fyi the pos was owned by g guild who u might have noticed we were at war with recently.
U know full well who the 'useless fanbois' are and I wont name names here although I dont include all members of your corp in this by any means.Some are very capable pvpers and pirates.I dont inculde u in the pvper catagory though.You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of any real combat.
I dont run and sometimes we take a few losses but more often than not we win.Thats the difference.
When I Sent the carriers to the gate we did have a scout.He logged off without my permission and as a consequence we lost 2 carriers although both were returned on petition.Given that I paid u 500mill to get a new carrier u actualyl made isk out of this engagement in the end.
And yes I have lost a few carriers mostly unavoidably.I have not lost a carrier for many months where I did not choose to engage the target and it is in fact almost impossible to take down my carrier now cause I have learnt from past mistakes.
When u have the balls to actually use capital ships on the gate let me know.
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DarkElf
Veto. Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: tiller
- he fits 2 stabs
  
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:25:00 -
[67]
Originally by: DarkElf
Originally by: tiller
- he fits 2 stabs
  
DE
Omg... omg... must breath... can't stop laughing...
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DUFFMANX
Infinitus Odium
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:37:00 -
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Ah i see some things never change. Whinger Magician talking crap as usual and belittling ppl that are better than him. Still dunno which is bigger though his mouth or his ego, really is a tough call 
Originally by: dimensionZ The biggest threat we ever had was xirtam mining plagioclase in aridia ...
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Karlemgne
The Black Fleet Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Karlemgne on 21/04/2007 18:35:44
Originally by: Ginger Magician You are merely an effective ganker of haulers who runs at the first sign of any real combat.
Ginger, talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You are the biggest hypocrite I have ever had the priviledge of sparing with on an MMO forum.
Lets see, you camp a gate in low sec all day long, popping haulers and newb ships. You do this with a multiple capital ship gank squad.
You fit STABS to your Carrier for heaven's sake! And you claim the status of "the number one pvper in eve" based not on your skill fighting people who shoot back, but a killboard that is absent a large number of your losses, and filled with newb ship, small ship, and hauler kills.
And to top it all off, you fund this playstyle by ROBBING the people in your corp.
Get a grip.
-Karl
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tiller
kleptomaniacs
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:40:00 -
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Edited by: tiller on 21/04/2007 18:36:22
Originally by: Ginger Magician
Man ur stupid.
Cry me a river ging, cry me a river 
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Tekka
Caldari Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:49:00 -
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I liked D-C policy better, Tank CEO would make billions and we would all steal it 
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Stormreaper
Minmatar The Stain Project
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:59:00 -
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Is it just me or has other people's opinions of Ginger (if already low) worsen from his replies in this thread?
Also ginger you ignored my post about YOU logging off to try and protect your carrier (theres a video somewhere)
And dont use "storm your a crap pvp'er" because you've never pvp'd against or with me.
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Conuion Meow
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Posted - 2007.04.21 19:51:00 -
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Locked.
This thread has gone off-topic, and is now mainly just personal attacks.
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