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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
710
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Posted - 2017.01.29 19:46:02 -
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Teinyhr wrote:That man has a woman in every port, so I assume so.
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
710
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Posted - 2017.01.29 19:50:31 -
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Despite the threat of I-RED, I shall continue the re-education of all Homeless, Refugees, POWs, and others in my possession. |
Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
718
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Posted - 2017.01.30 02:12:32 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well, this just got interesting. You're supporting a criminal who's abusing your allies prisoners of war? Hmmmm.... It is a Sanist supporting a Sanist. There is no need to delve further into the motivations of this offer of support.
As strength goes.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3020
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Posted - 2017.01.30 04:41:07 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Really, folks, you're giving Kim's inane prattling too much time. Let her shout at the wind, and demonstrate her lunacy as she berates State-loyal pilots... As for "berating State-loyal pilots" it's what Ms. Priano is doing right now. And as "inane pratting", it looks like Ms. Priano shames herself once again, as she jumped in only for insults without actually knowing that Ms. Villeneuve was expressing Federal ideals earlier in IGS.
But in any way, such behavior could be expected from Ms. Priano. At this point I'd like to remind readers, that Ms. Priano was already known for spreading slanders and lies about Caldari Officers, and didn't have honor to stand for her words ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381560 ).
Pity and shame.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3020
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Posted - 2017.01.30 04:52:18 -
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Julianni Avala wrote:Strike Commander,
Merit is far from what I seek, and inflating the argument was not my goal in the slightest. My question was out of sincere desire to be explained what I perceived as a conflict of what was understood, as well as a clarification for all to see.
You have since clarified it, so I thank you for that.
May I also ask why you made inference that Miss Villeneuve would bring harm to Caldari citizens? Thank you, Ms. Avala.
As for Ms. Villeneuve, I have heard her speech and saw her demeanor, that corresponds to known enemies of Caldari State, nor it seemed like her ideals matched ours. I am not sure however in her hostile intentions, but I consider there is a greater probability of Ms. Villeneuve breaking laws of Caldari State and acting against Caldari citizens, property or ideals rather than probability of Mr. Nauplius doing so.
Even with known crimes of Mr. Nauplius and his... weird... beliefs.... he seemed to be way more polite, respectful, receptive and logical than Ms. Villeneuve. Of course it doesn't relieve him of his crimes, but it makes to think twice about Ms. Villeneuve ulterior motives.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9061
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Posted - 2017.01.30 04:55:23 -
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Gasp. Federal ideals. That mindcriminal.
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
72
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Posted - 2017.01.30 05:30:53 -
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Diana Kim wrote:As for Ms. Villeneuve, I have heard her speech and saw her demeanor, that corresponds to known enemies of Caldari State, nor it seemed like her ideals matched ours. I am not sure however in her hostile intentions, but I consider there is a greater probability of Ms. Villeneuve breaking laws of Caldari State and acting against Caldari citizens, property or ideals rather than probability of Mr. Nauplius doing so.
Even with known crimes of Mr. Nauplius and his... weird... beliefs.... he seemed to be way more polite, respectful, receptive and logical than Ms. Villeneuve. Of course it doesn't relieve him of his crimes, but it makes to think twice about Ms. Villeneuve ulterior motives.
While I can not agree with your perspective, you of course will have your own opinion on things, and I respect that. It is a shame you see things that way, but it is not my place to try to convince you otherwise.
Instead I will state this in a broad spectrum for others:
Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive would not have welcomed Akagi into the alliance if it was thought for one second that they would act against the State in any way, shape, or form. Akagi is trusted by I-RED, and there has been no instance we have seen that would suggest they should be viewed as a "rogue mercenary corporation".
That is all I have to say on the matter. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3021
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Posted - 2017.01.30 12:15:40 -
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Very well, Ms. Avala. Please excuse me if it sounded I would like to intervene into internal I-RED affairs. It was neither my interest nor my intention and you really shouldn't justify to me your decision on hiring someone or not.
I though could notice, that I wouldn't trust the safety of any State citizen to I-RED myself since the start of the War there were already numerous incidents, showing that trusting I-RED would be quite unwise decision. I am not going to blame you personally in any of these incidents, as I am not sure you were around when they happened. If you are interested, I could tell about them in more private setting. Or, well, if you will insist I could do it here either, though I would prefer not since we are deviating from the original discussion too far already.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7030
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Posted - 2017.01.30 15:39:13 -
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Ayallah wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well, this just got interesting. You're supporting a criminal who's abusing your allies prisoners of war? Hmmmm.... It is a Sanist supporting a Sanist. There is no need to delve further into the motivations of this offer of support.
True. In any case, IGS support isn't something to concern anybody. We'll see what happens in space.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
354
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Posted - 2017.01.30 16:58:23 -
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Pieter with an I-RED tag identification. Ancestor's choke, never thought I'd see that. YC119 is turning out to be an interesting year so far.
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
474
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Posted - 2017.01.30 17:33:04 -
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Akagi is honored to have Tuulinen-haan with us.
And I, personally, am thoroughly ecstatic to have you here, Brother.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9065
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Posted - 2017.01.30 17:59:46 -
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Huh! Now that's new.
Welcome to the Ishukone family of corporations and corporate auxiliaries! I'm sure you're retaining your KK citizenship and your contract doesn't involve a citizenship swap...?
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7035
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Posted - 2017.01.30 18:49:48 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:Huh! Now that's new.
Welcome to the Ishukone family of corporations and corporate auxiliaries! I'm sure you're retaining your KK citizenship and your contract doesn't involve a citizenship swap...?
I am absolutely retaining my Citizenship within KK. It has long been an open secret that I have investments with the Ishukone Family of companies and good working arrangements with I-Red in particular.
I mean, I've been flying Drifter Ops with ARC since last year, even though my current focus is on SERAPH's "Shoot 'em till they glow green" philosophy!
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
108
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Posted - 2017.01.30 19:54:29 -
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Also a good note to keep in mind. As reported by I-RED's Certified News, AKAGI has kept their autonomy through their defensive contract with Ishukone-Raata.
Citizenship requirements are undoubtedly waved for a mercenary organization I'm sure. Along with a few other policies enforced by the Directorship.
That aside, I echo the sentiments of many others and welcome the addition to our ranks.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
475
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Posted - 2017.01.30 21:26:19 -
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Both Pieter and myself retain our Kaalakiota citizenship. Regardless, our affiliation with I-RED represents a strong desire to foster reconciliation and a unified front among all Caldari. While competition among us is the Caldari Way, it need not result in division as a whole.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7040
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Posted - 2017.01.30 21:54:47 -
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Saya Ishikari wrote:Both Pieter and myself retain our Kaalakiota citizenship. Regardless, our affiliation with I-RED represents a strong desire to foster reconciliation and a unified front among all Caldari. While competition among us is the Caldari Way, it need not result in division as a whole.
Plus it's easier for me, as a good Patriot, to show these soft Liberals where they're going wrong when we can actually bear to be in the same room as each other.
*Pieter Winks*
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3028
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Posted - 2017.01.31 01:36:34 -
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Hmm, not the best choice, Mr. Tuulinen, considering the contingent they are getting and flying under the banner of the alliance that was known to sign blue pacts with Feds and wardeccing top Caldari loyal corporations.
Still better than flying with terrorists and direct enemies of Amarr Empire like Rote Kapelle. After all, most recently I-REDs were with us... for a short period of time, before they ran away back into their hiding holes.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
113
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Posted - 2017.01.31 03:31:59 -
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I would like to suggest in the most polite manner possible that you recognize that Ishukone-Raata's Directorship, Executorship and course has changed, Strike Commander. Also know that I will not debate with you. But continuing your efforts to soil the name of of the dutiful men and women who serve Ishukone, and in turn the State will garner you little respect among your peers.
I am not asking you to love us, or even like us. I'm asking that you and any other who claim to be Caldari to show the cluster what that really means. A Caldari initiates a civil dialog with our most bitter of rivals, a Caldari displays honor, mercy and respect where foreigners cannot. Taking trivialities and turning them into tantrums is beneath us. Respect the State, respect your parent corporation, most of all.. respect your fellow Caldari.
We've all seen where burning bridges has lead us. Building them is far more profitable.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3032
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Posted - 2017.01.31 18:17:40 -
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Thank you, Mr. Hinkelmann. Maybe indeed I-RED has changed, and I can see that just from your words. I can try to build a bridge to you, though it will be very hard for me, for I still remember very good what happened back then. Please forgive me in advance if my past experience with I-RED will affect my future replies... though I honestly will try to consider only the present.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7044
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Posted - 2017.01.31 18:25:42 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Thank you, Mr. Hinkelmann. Maybe indeed I-RED has changed, and I can see that just from your words. I can try to build a bridge to you, though it will be very hard for me, for I still remember very good what happened back then. Please forgive me in advance if my past experience with I-RED will affect my future replies... though I honestly will try to consider only the present.
Diana, if you need to chat to a friendly face you can always use me as an intermediary. It's a time-honoured tradition and I'd be glad to help.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9067
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Posted - 2017.01.31 18:55:48 -
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If Ms. Kim is interested in peaceful, productive relations with her Caldari kin, then I'd be willing to extend a hand. We all serve the State in our various ways, after all.
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1796
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:02:40 -
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About time you made an honest man of yourself, Pieter.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7045
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:03:43 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:About time you made an honest man of yourself, Pieter.
It was my wife's idea. I don't think she likes me as a shady mercenary.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3033
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:39:18 -
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Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Thank you, Mr. Hinkelmann. Maybe indeed I-RED has changed, and I can see that just from your words. I can try to build a bridge to you, though it will be very hard for me, for I still remember very good what happened back then. Please forgive me in advance if my past experience with I-RED will affect my future replies... though I honestly will try to consider only the present. Diana, if you need to chat to a friendly face you can always use me as an intermediary. It's a time-honoured tradition and I'd be glad to help. Oh, you know, Mr. Tuulinen, I prefer speaking with people in person without proxies, that way I can try to feel them. Sometimes how people say things bears way more weight than just their words.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3033
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:44:07 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:If Ms. Kim is interested in peaceful, productive relations with her Caldari kin, then I'd be willing to extend a hand. We all serve the State in our various ways, after all. With Caldari kin, Priano, not with dishonorable cowards. The last time I made a mistake by considering you the former and indeed extended you a hand, you went down on me with insults, slanders and lies, foaming at your mouth. I am not going to step on the same rake twice.
Disappear.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9068
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:54:51 -
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And this, Ms. Kim, is why those such as Hinkelmann-haan, Tuulinen-haan, and Ishikari-haani are better citizens than you.
They've forgiven your slanders and insults repeatedly, despite how regularly you spit on them.
You, on the other hand? You fell for a simple trap, which was demonstrating publicly that you remain the vindictive, small-minded Provist that we all know you to be.
That the other citizens on this forum tolerate you does them credit. That you force them to tolerate you does you none.
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Ria NieyIi
928
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Posted - 2017.01.31 20:20:56 -
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You people scare me someyimes. Maybe staying at home isn't so bad after all. |
Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3034
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Posted - 2017.02.01 16:10:05 -
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Makoto Priano wrote:And this, Ms. Kim, is why those such as Hinkelmann-haan, Tuulinen-haan, and Ishikari-haani are better citizens than you.
They've forgiven your slanders and insults repeatedly, despite how regularly you spit on them.
You, on the other hand? You fell for a simple trap, which was demonstrating publicly that you remain the vindictive, small-minded Provist that we all know you to be.
That the other citizens on this forum tolerate you does them credit. That you force them to tolerate you does you none. Slander is your weapon, not mine, Priano, what you again display by your this exact post.
Begone, really, and stop poisoning the atmosphere with your vitriol.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1130
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Posted - 2017.02.01 16:14:26 -
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Diana Kim wrote:The last time I made a mistake by considering you the former and indeed extended you a hand, you went down on me...
Nice.
Diana Kim wrote:foaming at your mouth
Wait. Nope.
Spirits below, a certain horrifying subset of fanfic authors out there just cried out with glee.
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
81
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Posted - 2017.02.01 17:32:45 -
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May I request that the hostile back-and-forth be taken elsewhere? Regardless of what animosity the two of you have, Kim-haani and Priano-haani, it was not the original topic of this thread. It doesn't seem respectful to AKAGI to let it continue to develop into something else.
Thank you. |
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