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Wren Villeneuve
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
38
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Posted - 2017.01.28 04:46:18 -
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We do not intend to announce most of our operations on this board, but for our breakout operation we felt it appropriate, especially as we consider this to be charity work.
Akagi Initiative has declared war against Hoi Andrapodistai, which some may recognize as the corporation belonging to the Blood Raider butcher Nauplius.
The operation will consist of military maneuvers designed to make life difficult for the butcher, and to delay any possible attempt at setting up another charnel house.
We will deny him access to State space, and destroy any and all assets we can find.
This one is Pro Bono. |

Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1785
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Posted - 2017.01.28 07:37:22 -
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Pleased to have you in the fight, I-RED. If you need any intel or pointers on how to deal with him, just ask us Praetorians. We've had a few years of experience.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Wren Villeneuve
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
40
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Posted - 2017.01.28 07:49:51 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Pleased to have you in the fight, I-RED. If you need any intel or pointers on how to deal with him, just ask us Praetorians. We've had a few years of experience.
Happy to take anything you're willing to provide.
I'm working on our pay structure for this operation as we speak - It's possible that we might be able to get some of your pilots in on it if there happen to be any joint fleets. Send myself or Saya Ishikari a mail and we'll see if we can work something out. |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
456
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Posted - 2017.01.28 11:08:12 -
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Aldrith Shutaq wrote:Pleased to have you in the fight, I-RED. If you need any intel or pointers on how to deal with him, just ask us Praetorians. We've had a few years of experience. As my colleague stated, we would be delighted to coordinate with you and yours on this matter, sir. Rikaato, and we will speak very soon.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour Sani-Sabik
1928
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Posted - 2017.01.28 11:31:25 -
[5] - Quote
Gasp.
Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
716
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Posted - 2017.01.28 15:46:56 -
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It is fantastic to see another group push at him.
Wren Villeneuve wrote:We will deny him access to State space This seems odd, has he ever gone to State space?
As strength goes.
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Teinyhr
Ourumur
770
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Posted - 2017.01.28 16:26:08 -
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Ayallah wrote:It is fantastic to see another group push at him. Wren Villeneuve wrote:We will deny him access to State space This seems odd, has he ever gone to State space?
That man has a woman in every port, so I assume so. |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
460
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Posted - 2017.01.28 17:06:31 -
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My own personal loathing for his methods and character aside, a statement of intent is enough to draw our attention, given his callous disregard for all human beings that aren't grovelling in servitude to his manufactured religion, or of interest in his attempts to warm a bed.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Valjan Auduin
Khushakor Clan Of Questionable Repute
7
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Posted - 2017.01.28 18:05:16 -
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I offer whatever services I can in support of this war. |

edeity
Holy Amarrian Battlemonk Local Is Primary
113
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Posted - 2017.01.28 18:48:36 -
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Local Is Primary declares support for Hoi Andrapodistai.
As the only representative of any capable military fighting force of the lot of you, I wish you good luck as we will not be using witty retorts, passive aggressive quoting, or vigorous corrections of the oxford comma and instead actual space craft armed with actual weapons.
Pathetic armchair generals. |

Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
887
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Posted - 2017.01.28 18:55:05 -
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Leave Mister Nauplius alone you bullies! |

Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
102
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Posted - 2017.01.28 19:24:49 -
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While Operation Falconbridge is a AKAGI endeavor, they will have Ishukone-Raata's continued support during this mission. It's regrettable that Mr Nauplius has continued his mistreatment of baseliners. Especially Caldari prisoners of war, a fact that makes agreeing to the terms of our contract all the easier.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Wren Villeneuve
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
47
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Posted - 2017.01.29 05:22:10 -
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We went out. He saw us. He stayed in his quarters.
CONCORD rules of engagement don't allow us to send armed marines into stations to kick down doors, so that's how things stayed. |

Pieter Tuulinen
Tyrathlion Interstellar Rote Kapelle
7025
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Posted - 2017.01.29 05:43:16 -
[14] - Quote
edeity wrote:Local Is Primary declares support for Hoi Andrapodistai.
As the only representative of any capable military fighting force of the lot of you, I wish you good luck as we will not be using witty retorts, passive aggressive quoting, or vigorous corrections of the oxford comma and instead actual space craft armed with actual weapons.
Pathetic armchair generals.
Well, this just got interesting. You're supporting a criminal who's abusing your allies prisoners of war? Hmmmm....
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1116
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Posted - 2017.01.29 05:49:12 -
[15] - Quote
New Eden really has to be rather inactive if we're making grand proclamations when wardeccing one individual egger. |

Wren Villeneuve
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
48
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Posted - 2017.01.29 05:55:56 -
[16] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:edeity wrote:Local Is Primary declares support for Hoi Andrapodistai.
As the only representative of any capable military fighting force of the lot of you, I wish you good luck as we will not be using witty retorts, passive aggressive quoting, or vigorous corrections of the oxford comma and instead actual space craft armed with actual weapons.
Pathetic armchair generals. Well, this just got interesting. You're supporting a criminal who's abusing your allies prisoners of war? Hmmmm....
Not unexpected. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3020
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Posted - 2017.01.29 14:37:04 -
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Wren Villeneuve wrote: We will deny him access to State space, and destroy any and all assets we can find.
This one is Pro Bono.
Mr. Nauplius and his corporation Hoi Andrapodistai has same privilege at entering sovereign Caldari State space as Wren Villeneuve and her corporation, disregarding what they or official Empire considers him, and they will NOT be revoked unless official Amarr Empire authority will request so and that decision will be supported by Caldari Navy, and as far as I imagine it will be more likely that Akagi Initiative might lose privilege entering Caldari State sovereign space faster than Hoi Andrapodistai.
Please keep in mind that Ms. Villeneuve actions in State space are neither sanctioned nor authorized. I recommend the vigilant citizens to watch for both sides of the conflict and report any violation of the law to the authorities.
Mr. Nauplius and his corporation Hoi Andrapodistai, while having positive standing to Caldari State by association with 24th Imperial Crusade may request help against these agressors in low security space from State Protectorate pilots.
Please be aware, that not all Protectorate pilots will provide such help because of incidents that were caused lately by both sides.
I will also advise Mr. Nauplius to NOT request official help by joining the war from the Coalition corporations, as this contradicts our diplomatic interests with Amarr Empire loyal corporations.
Thanks in advance, D. Kim, Strike Cmdr. State Protectorate, Caldari State
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Wren Villeneuve
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
52
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Posted - 2017.01.29 15:08:06 -
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You know he's holding State citizens for the purposes of brainwashing them into his cult, in the interests of making the CAldari State a slave state, right, Diana? This is the person you are defending here? |

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1755
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Posted - 2017.01.29 15:17:04 -
[19] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Wren Villeneuve wrote: We will deny him access to State space, and destroy any and all assets we can find.
This one is Pro Bono.
Mr. Nauplius and his corporation Hoi Andrapodistai has same privilege at entering sovereign Caldari State space as Wren Villeneuve and her corporation, disregarding what they or official Empire considers him, and they will NOT be revoked unless official Amarr Empire authority will request so and that decision will be supported by Caldari Navy, and as far as I imagine it will be more likely that Akagi Initiative might lose privilege entering Caldari State sovereign space faster than Hoi Andrapodistai. Please keep in mind that Ms. Villeneuve actions in State space are neither sanctioned nor authorized. I recommend the vigilant citizens to watch for both sides of the conflict and report any violation of the law to the authorities. Mr. Nauplius and his corporation Hoi Andrapodistai, while having positive standing to Caldari State by association with 24th Imperial Crusade may request help against these agressors in low security space from State Protectorate pilots. Please be aware, that not all Protectorate pilots will provide such help because of incidents that were caused lately by both sides. I will also advise Mr. Nauplius to NOT request official help by joining the war from the Coalition corporations, as this contradicts our diplomatic interests with Amarr Empire loyal corporations. Thanks in advance, D. Kim, Strike Cmdr. State Protectorate, Caldari State
The Caldari State has a good view on blooders? Thought they were universally hated whether they waved a falsle flag or not...
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3020
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Posted - 2017.01.29 15:42:47 -
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Deitra Vess wrote: The Caldari State has a good view on blooders? Thought they were universally hated whether they waved a falsle flag or not...
According to his Corporation page his allegiance belongs to 24th Imperial Crusade of Amarr Empire, and not to Blood Raider covenant.
Blood raiders are assigned as pirates in Caldari State space and shall be destroyed on contact. There is no such assignment for Mr. Nauplius corporation. If he will be found in committing a piracy against Caldari State vessels or structures, he will be dealt with accordingly.
D. Kim, Strike Cmdr.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1756
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Posted - 2017.01.29 15:45:31 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Deitra Vess wrote: The Caldari State has a good view on blooders? Thought they were universally hated whether they waved a falsle flag or not...
According to his Corporation page his allegiance belongs to 24th Imperial Crusade of Amarr Empire, and not to Blood Raider covenant. Blood raiders are assigned as pirates in Caldari State space and shall be destroyed on contact. There is no such assignment for Mr. Nauplius corporation. If he will be found in committing a piracy against Caldari State vessels or structures, he will be dealt with accordingly. D. Kim, Strike Cmdr. Hmm, I guess I see your point. My only reply is he is among the most outspoken of their ilk, though ya his corp identifies as it does. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3020
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Posted - 2017.01.29 16:50:24 -
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This argument has no purpose, Ms. Vess. I have shown already that I am not interested in our corporations to give support to his corporation directly. My statement was directed at an inane attempt of "Akagi Initiative" corporation to set rules of who can enter our space or not.
Such behavior of this low class mercenary corporation is similar to the so-called CODE or New Order organizations who think they can set rules in our high security systems.
Neither rules of Akagi nor CODE are legal in our space. Keep it in mind and stay vigilant.
D. Kim, Strike Cmdr.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
467
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Posted - 2017.01.29 17:26:24 -
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Saisieni,
To clarify what appears to be a misunderstanding, Akagi only speaks for its own intent and operations. This remains a fundamental concept of capsuleer operations in general, and we are no exception. No declaration of ours reflects the legal stance of the Caldari Business Tribunal, or the Caldari Navy, nor do the personal decisions of any individual pilot unilaterally decide such policy on the States behalf, regardless of their affiliation or accomplishments.
Akagi is in good standing with the Caldari State. I personally am in excellent standing with the Caldari Navy.
Our operations against Nauplius and his corporation have been undertaken in response to implications of harm to Caldari citizens, irrespective of other acts committed in the past.
With respect to all opinions, I believe no further reasoning is necessary on the matter, and I'm confident that those who understand the nature of capsuleer politics will not require such.
If there are further questions about the general nature of our operation, barring specific matters of operational security, Wren and I will be pleased to answer them. However, I consider the current matter of Akagi's legality and standing to be closed from this point forward, and will speak no further on it, as the facts speak for themselves.
In serving the Citizen, we serve the State.
Rikaato ti anvatkaa.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
63
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Posted - 2017.01.29 17:42:38 -
[24] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Blood raiders are assigned as pirates in Caldari State space and shall be destroyed on contact. There is no such assignment for Mr. Nauplius corporation. If he will be found in committing a piracy against Caldari State vessels or structures, he will be dealt with accordingly.
D. Kim, Strike Cmdr.
Strike Commander,
Just so I myself as well as others can be clear on the matter, I would like to as you a question.
Neph wrote:I would start by trying to get the Citizen POWs back to the State. They deserve to return to their old station in life, not to be bought and sold like so much cattle. Also, I suspect looking to their best interest would greatly increase your luck in any negotiations with the Caldari.
Nauplius wrote:No. Caldari POWs will not be returned immediately to the State where they will be subjected to incorrect teaching on the Doctrine of Slavery, the Doctrine of Hell, and the Doctrine of Eternal Minmatar Subjugation and Destruction. My instructors will instead re-educate any Caldari in my possession on these and other matters, particularly the Doctrine of Slavery, to which Caldari seem to have a stubborn resistance.
From my understanding, he is refusing to turn over State citizens in order to fill their mind with his heretical teachings and thus lead them away from the Caldari way.
Are you suggesting that these Caldari prisoners of war do not matter? That it is only the vessels or structures that will be defended? I find myself questioning what authority you have claimed on the matter, as that is not the actions or beliefs of the Caldari I know and was taught of. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3020
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Posted - 2017.01.29 18:46:36 -
[25] - Quote
Julianni Avala wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Blood raiders are assigned as pirates in Caldari State space and shall be destroyed on contact. There is no such assignment for Mr. Nauplius corporation. If he will be found in committing a piracy against Caldari State vessels or structures, he will be dealt with accordingly.
D. Kim, Strike Cmdr. Strike Commander, Just so I myself as well as others can be clear on the matter, I would like to as you a question. Neph wrote:I would start by trying to get the Citizen POWs back to the State. They deserve to return to their old station in life, not to be bought and sold like so much cattle. Also, I suspect looking to their best interest would greatly increase your luck in any negotiations with the Caldari. Nauplius wrote:No. Caldari POWs will not be returned immediately to the State where they will be subjected to incorrect teaching on the Doctrine of Slavery, the Doctrine of Hell, and the Doctrine of Eternal Minmatar Subjugation and Destruction. My instructors will instead re-educate any Caldari in my possession on these and other matters, particularly the Doctrine of Slavery, to which Caldari seem to have a stubborn resistance. From my understanding, he is refusing to turn over State citizens in order to fill their mind with his heretical teachings and thus lead them away from the Caldari way. Are you suggesting that these Caldari prisoners of war do not matter? That it is only the vessels or structures that will be defended? I find myself questioning what authority you have claimed on the matter, as that is not the actions or beliefs of the Caldari I know and was taught of. Ms. Avala, I repeat for the second time already, that my statement didn't show support to Mr. Nauplius, and inflating this argument doesn't give you merit.
Yes, Caldari prisoners of war do matter. No, citizens of Caldari State will be defended as well. All crimes against our State and our citizens will be dealt with according to our laws and by our forces, not by some rogue mercenary organization.
And I will like to give you three more clarifications:
1) Crimes against Caldari citizens by either Mr. Nauplius or Ms. Villineuve will be persecuted.
2) Presence of either of them in our space does not constitute crime against the State or State citizens, unless it will be said explicitly by Caldari Navy after their attempt to enter the system (the broadcasted message can be read if you are in that system).
3) Caldari State is a secular entity. Neither the Way of winds, nor Kutuoto Miru is a requirement to become a citizen, to be employed by a Mega or to be allowed to enter State space. Both followers of Amarr Faith and Sabik are welcome (provided they aren't Blood Raiders - the punishment for that is still death). Preaching and converting in the State is allowed as well, provided it won't create discomfort or other disturbance to the citizens, corporations, their operations, etc.
And two more clarifications for Mr. Nauplius:
1) Slavery on the territory of Caldari State is strictly prohibited.
2) Advocating slavery to citizens of Caldari State or generally in the territory of Caldari State constitutes crime (as a provocation to commit a crime) and will be dealt with.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
642
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Posted - 2017.01.29 18:59:55 -
[26] - Quote
Take the blinders off "Executor" Kim. Or you know what, continue to make a fool of yourself.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
67
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Posted - 2017.01.29 19:01:00 -
[27] - Quote
Strike Commander,
Merit is far from what I seek, and inflating the argument was not my goal in the slightest. My question was out of sincere desire to be explained what I perceived as a conflict of what was understood, as well as a clarification for all to see.
You have since clarified it, so I thank you for that.
May I also ask why you made inference that Miss Villeneuve would bring harm to Caldari citizens? |

Viktor Revon
14
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Posted - 2017.01.29 19:05:17 -
[28] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote: All crimes against our State and our citizens will be dealt with according to our laws and by our forces, not by some rogue mercenary organization. No offense intended, Ms. Kim, but you do not have that control. Many mercenaries, and self-proclaimed State loyalists may perceive your argument as a corrupt defense of someone who should be prosecuted and wish to take matters into their own hands. You have no control over their actions, only influence.
(OCC: Just getting back into all this stuff. I apologize if it's off in any way.)
"Into the dark abyss shall we venture once more." - Viktor Revon
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9057
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Posted - 2017.01.29 19:11:50 -
[29] - Quote
Really, folks, you're giving Kim's inane prattling too much time. Let her shout at the wind, and demonstrate her lunacy as she berates State-loyal pilots for attempting to recover State POWs from an avowed and unrepentant Blood Raider.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1791
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Posted - 2017.01.29 19:44:47 -
[30] - Quote
Well, looks like he's finally lost it.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
710
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Posted - 2017.01.29 19:46:02 -
[31] - Quote
Teinyhr wrote:That man has a woman in every port, so I assume so.
Not true. |

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
710
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Posted - 2017.01.29 19:50:31 -
[32] - Quote
Despite the threat of I-RED, I shall continue the re-education of all Homeless, Refugees, POWs, and others in my possession. |

Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
718
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Posted - 2017.01.30 02:12:32 -
[33] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well, this just got interesting. You're supporting a criminal who's abusing your allies prisoners of war? Hmmmm.... It is a Sanist supporting a Sanist. There is no need to delve further into the motivations of this offer of support.
As strength goes.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3020
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Posted - 2017.01.30 04:41:07 -
[34] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:Really, folks, you're giving Kim's inane prattling too much time. Let her shout at the wind, and demonstrate her lunacy as she berates State-loyal pilots... As for "berating State-loyal pilots" it's what Ms. Priano is doing right now. And as "inane pratting", it looks like Ms. Priano shames herself once again, as she jumped in only for insults without actually knowing that Ms. Villeneuve was expressing Federal ideals earlier in IGS.
But in any way, such behavior could be expected from Ms. Priano. At this point I'd like to remind readers, that Ms. Priano was already known for spreading slanders and lies about Caldari Officers, and didn't have honor to stand for her words ( https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=381560 ).
Pity and shame.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3020
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Posted - 2017.01.30 04:52:18 -
[35] - Quote
Julianni Avala wrote:Strike Commander,
Merit is far from what I seek, and inflating the argument was not my goal in the slightest. My question was out of sincere desire to be explained what I perceived as a conflict of what was understood, as well as a clarification for all to see.
You have since clarified it, so I thank you for that.
May I also ask why you made inference that Miss Villeneuve would bring harm to Caldari citizens? Thank you, Ms. Avala.
As for Ms. Villeneuve, I have heard her speech and saw her demeanor, that corresponds to known enemies of Caldari State, nor it seemed like her ideals matched ours. I am not sure however in her hostile intentions, but I consider there is a greater probability of Ms. Villeneuve breaking laws of Caldari State and acting against Caldari citizens, property or ideals rather than probability of Mr. Nauplius doing so.
Even with known crimes of Mr. Nauplius and his... weird... beliefs.... he seemed to be way more polite, respectful, receptive and logical than Ms. Villeneuve. Of course it doesn't relieve him of his crimes, but it makes to think twice about Ms. Villeneuve ulterior motives.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9061
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Posted - 2017.01.30 04:55:23 -
[36] - Quote
Gasp. Federal ideals. That mindcriminal.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
72
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Posted - 2017.01.30 05:30:53 -
[37] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:As for Ms. Villeneuve, I have heard her speech and saw her demeanor, that corresponds to known enemies of Caldari State, nor it seemed like her ideals matched ours. I am not sure however in her hostile intentions, but I consider there is a greater probability of Ms. Villeneuve breaking laws of Caldari State and acting against Caldari citizens, property or ideals rather than probability of Mr. Nauplius doing so.
Even with known crimes of Mr. Nauplius and his... weird... beliefs.... he seemed to be way more polite, respectful, receptive and logical than Ms. Villeneuve. Of course it doesn't relieve him of his crimes, but it makes to think twice about Ms. Villeneuve ulterior motives.
While I can not agree with your perspective, you of course will have your own opinion on things, and I respect that. It is a shame you see things that way, but it is not my place to try to convince you otherwise.
Instead I will state this in a broad spectrum for others:
Ishukone-Raata Enforcement Directive would not have welcomed Akagi into the alliance if it was thought for one second that they would act against the State in any way, shape, or form. Akagi is trusted by I-RED, and there has been no instance we have seen that would suggest they should be viewed as a "rogue mercenary corporation".
That is all I have to say on the matter. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3021
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Posted - 2017.01.30 12:15:40 -
[38] - Quote
Very well, Ms. Avala. Please excuse me if it sounded I would like to intervene into internal I-RED affairs. It was neither my interest nor my intention and you really shouldn't justify to me your decision on hiring someone or not.
I though could notice, that I wouldn't trust the safety of any State citizen to I-RED myself since the start of the War there were already numerous incidents, showing that trusting I-RED would be quite unwise decision. I am not going to blame you personally in any of these incidents, as I am not sure you were around when they happened. If you are interested, I could tell about them in more private setting. Or, well, if you will insist I could do it here either, though I would prefer not since we are deviating from the original discussion too far already.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7030
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Posted - 2017.01.30 15:39:13 -
[39] - Quote
Ayallah wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Well, this just got interesting. You're supporting a criminal who's abusing your allies prisoners of war? Hmmmm.... It is a Sanist supporting a Sanist. There is no need to delve further into the motivations of this offer of support.
True. In any case, IGS support isn't something to concern anybody. We'll see what happens in space.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
354
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Posted - 2017.01.30 16:58:23 -
[40] - Quote
Pieter with an I-RED tag identification. Ancestor's choke, never thought I'd see that. YC119 is turning out to be an interesting year so far.
Cold Wind's Blade || Follow I-RED on Google+!
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
474
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Posted - 2017.01.30 17:33:04 -
[41] - Quote
Akagi is honored to have Tuulinen-haan with us.
And I, personally, am thoroughly ecstatic to have you here, Brother.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9065
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Posted - 2017.01.30 17:59:46 -
[42] - Quote
Huh! Now that's new.
Welcome to the Ishukone family of corporations and corporate auxiliaries! I'm sure you're retaining your KK citizenship and your contract doesn't involve a citizenship swap...?
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7035
|
Posted - 2017.01.30 18:49:48 -
[43] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:Huh! Now that's new.
Welcome to the Ishukone family of corporations and corporate auxiliaries! I'm sure you're retaining your KK citizenship and your contract doesn't involve a citizenship swap...?
I am absolutely retaining my Citizenship within KK. It has long been an open secret that I have investments with the Ishukone Family of companies and good working arrangements with I-Red in particular.
I mean, I've been flying Drifter Ops with ARC since last year, even though my current focus is on SERAPH's "Shoot 'em till they glow green" philosophy!
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
108
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Posted - 2017.01.30 19:54:29 -
[44] - Quote
Also a good note to keep in mind. As reported by I-RED's Certified News, AKAGI has kept their autonomy through their defensive contract with Ishukone-Raata.
Citizenship requirements are undoubtedly waved for a mercenary organization I'm sure. Along with a few other policies enforced by the Directorship.
That aside, I echo the sentiments of many others and welcome the addition to our ranks.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
475
|
Posted - 2017.01.30 21:26:19 -
[45] - Quote
Both Pieter and myself retain our Kaalakiota citizenship. Regardless, our affiliation with I-RED represents a strong desire to foster reconciliation and a unified front among all Caldari. While competition among us is the Caldari Way, it need not result in division as a whole.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7040
|
Posted - 2017.01.30 21:54:47 -
[46] - Quote
Saya Ishikari wrote:Both Pieter and myself retain our Kaalakiota citizenship. Regardless, our affiliation with I-RED represents a strong desire to foster reconciliation and a unified front among all Caldari. While competition among us is the Caldari Way, it need not result in division as a whole.
Plus it's easier for me, as a good Patriot, to show these soft Liberals where they're going wrong when we can actually bear to be in the same room as each other.
*Pieter Winks*
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3028
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Posted - 2017.01.31 01:36:34 -
[47] - Quote
Hmm, not the best choice, Mr. Tuulinen, considering the contingent they are getting and flying under the banner of the alliance that was known to sign blue pacts with Feds and wardeccing top Caldari loyal corporations.
Still better than flying with terrorists and direct enemies of Amarr Empire like Rote Kapelle. After all, most recently I-REDs were with us... for a short period of time, before they ran away back into their hiding holes.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
113
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Posted - 2017.01.31 03:31:59 -
[48] - Quote
I would like to suggest in the most polite manner possible that you recognize that Ishukone-Raata's Directorship, Executorship and course has changed, Strike Commander. Also know that I will not debate with you. But continuing your efforts to soil the name of of the dutiful men and women who serve Ishukone, and in turn the State will garner you little respect among your peers.
I am not asking you to love us, or even like us. I'm asking that you and any other who claim to be Caldari to show the cluster what that really means. A Caldari initiates a civil dialog with our most bitter of rivals, a Caldari displays honor, mercy and respect where foreigners cannot. Taking trivialities and turning them into tantrums is beneath us. Respect the State, respect your parent corporation, most of all.. respect your fellow Caldari.
We've all seen where burning bridges has lead us. Building them is far more profitable.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3032
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Posted - 2017.01.31 18:17:40 -
[49] - Quote
Thank you, Mr. Hinkelmann. Maybe indeed I-RED has changed, and I can see that just from your words. I can try to build a bridge to you, though it will be very hard for me, for I still remember very good what happened back then. Please forgive me in advance if my past experience with I-RED will affect my future replies... though I honestly will try to consider only the present.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7044
|
Posted - 2017.01.31 18:25:42 -
[50] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Thank you, Mr. Hinkelmann. Maybe indeed I-RED has changed, and I can see that just from your words. I can try to build a bridge to you, though it will be very hard for me, for I still remember very good what happened back then. Please forgive me in advance if my past experience with I-RED will affect my future replies... though I honestly will try to consider only the present.
Diana, if you need to chat to a friendly face you can always use me as an intermediary. It's a time-honoured tradition and I'd be glad to help.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9067
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Posted - 2017.01.31 18:55:48 -
[51] - Quote
If Ms. Kim is interested in peaceful, productive relations with her Caldari kin, then I'd be willing to extend a hand. We all serve the State in our various ways, after all.
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Aldrith Shutaq
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1796
|
Posted - 2017.01.31 19:02:40 -
[52] - Quote
About time you made an honest man of yourself, Pieter.
Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle
Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade
Lord Consort of House Sarum
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7045
|
Posted - 2017.01.31 19:03:43 -
[53] - Quote
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:About time you made an honest man of yourself, Pieter.
It was my wife's idea. I don't think she likes me as a shady mercenary.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3033
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:39:18 -
[54] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Thank you, Mr. Hinkelmann. Maybe indeed I-RED has changed, and I can see that just from your words. I can try to build a bridge to you, though it will be very hard for me, for I still remember very good what happened back then. Please forgive me in advance if my past experience with I-RED will affect my future replies... though I honestly will try to consider only the present. Diana, if you need to chat to a friendly face you can always use me as an intermediary. It's a time-honoured tradition and I'd be glad to help. Oh, you know, Mr. Tuulinen, I prefer speaking with people in person without proxies, that way I can try to feel them. Sometimes how people say things bears way more weight than just their words.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3033
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:44:07 -
[55] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:If Ms. Kim is interested in peaceful, productive relations with her Caldari kin, then I'd be willing to extend a hand. We all serve the State in our various ways, after all. With Caldari kin, Priano, not with dishonorable cowards. The last time I made a mistake by considering you the former and indeed extended you a hand, you went down on me with insults, slanders and lies, foaming at your mouth. I am not going to step on the same rake twice.
Disappear.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9068
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Posted - 2017.01.31 19:54:51 -
[56] - Quote
And this, Ms. Kim, is why those such as Hinkelmann-haan, Tuulinen-haan, and Ishikari-haani are better citizens than you.
They've forgiven your slanders and insults repeatedly, despite how regularly you spit on them.
You, on the other hand? You fell for a simple trap, which was demonstrating publicly that you remain the vindictive, small-minded Provist that we all know you to be.
That the other citizens on this forum tolerate you does them credit. That you force them to tolerate you does you none.
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Ria NieyIi
928
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Posted - 2017.01.31 20:20:56 -
[57] - Quote
You people scare me someyimes. Maybe staying at home isn't so bad after all. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3034
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Posted - 2017.02.01 16:10:05 -
[58] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:And this, Ms. Kim, is why those such as Hinkelmann-haan, Tuulinen-haan, and Ishikari-haani are better citizens than you.
They've forgiven your slanders and insults repeatedly, despite how regularly you spit on them.
You, on the other hand? You fell for a simple trap, which was demonstrating publicly that you remain the vindictive, small-minded Provist that we all know you to be.
That the other citizens on this forum tolerate you does them credit. That you force them to tolerate you does you none. Slander is your weapon, not mine, Priano, what you again display by your this exact post.
Begone, really, and stop poisoning the atmosphere with your vitriol.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1130
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Posted - 2017.02.01 16:14:26 -
[59] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:The last time I made a mistake by considering you the former and indeed extended you a hand, you went down on me...
Nice.
Diana Kim wrote:foaming at your mouth
Wait. Nope.
Spirits below, a certain horrifying subset of fanfic authors out there just cried out with glee.
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
81
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Posted - 2017.02.01 17:32:45 -
[60] - Quote
May I request that the hostile back-and-forth be taken elsewhere? Regardless of what animosity the two of you have, Kim-haani and Priano-haani, it was not the original topic of this thread. It doesn't seem respectful to AKAGI to let it continue to develop into something else.
Thank you. |

Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9070
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Posted - 2017.02.01 17:35:11 -
[61] - Quote
False equivalency, Avala, but I'll desist.
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
478
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Posted - 2017.02.01 17:35:11 -
[62] - Quote
Personally, I'm willing to extend a hand to anyone among us, or even jaijii, who are willing to let go of the justifications offered by past acts, and try to mend bridges where possible. But there are those whose consistent insistence on ignoring or spiting the possibility, who have led me to believe, completely, that the effort would be wasted on them.
I, for one, will NOT waste a single moment, or ounce of resolve, on such people. They will simply be left out in the cold. And I will move on to others who can see past their own impulses, for the common good.
Waste is not the Caldari Way. Don't expect anyone to waste their effort or time being forever patient when it's not warranted.
Division is not the Caldari Way. Those who cooperate, reap mutual rewards, and are stronger for it. Those who don't, fend for themselves.
As it has ever been, take what's offered, when it's offered, or be left behind. The jingoism and rule of trumpeting bigots who make decisions only by their prejudices, without regard to the common benefit, are OVER.
Find reality FAST, Commander Kim. There aren't many left who are willing to bother with you among us. I've long since been uncaring as to your ultimate fate, but in the spirit of heiian, I'm offering one final time to include even you in the efforts I have made, and intend to make, to bring the unnecessarily divided together.
Take it, or leave it. But understand that the choice, and the consequences, belong solely to you.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
478
|
Posted - 2017.02.01 17:37:36 -
[63] - Quote
Julianni Avala wrote:May I request that the hostile back-and-forth be taken elsewhere? Regardless of what animosity the two of you have, Kim-haani and Priano-haani, it was not the original topic of this thread. It doesn't seem respectful to AKAGI to let it continue to develop into something else.
Thank you. Consider the above to be my statement on the matter, Avala-kirjuun. And a final one, on my behalf, at that. Rikaato, for your support in the matter, however, and to Priano-haani, for taking the higher ground. I grow weary of this repetition.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Persephone Alleile
Tartarus Covert Operations
303
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Posted - 2017.02.01 20:28:24 -
[64] - Quote
Nice to see the I-RED family growing, Ishukone has been good to the Intaki people over the years.
Is the Akagi Initiative going to be involved in the SSI2 project or will your operations be mostly in Black Rise and Caldari sovereign space? |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
480
|
Posted - 2017.02.01 20:42:41 -
[65] - Quote
Persephone Alleile wrote:Nice to see the I-RED family growing, Ishukone has been good to the Intaki people over the years.
Is the Akagi Initiative going to be involved in the SSI2 project or will your operations be mostly in Black Rise and Caldari sovereign space? Our operations could concievably take place anywhere, miss. We are not involved, or limited to, the militia, and will be taking contracts both in the interests of I-RED and Ishukone, but also for parties of good intent, for whom rendering assistance will not harm the State.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
715
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Posted - 2017.02.01 21:54:15 -
[66] - Quote
Sanxing has also declared war against Hoi Andrapodistai. O how wicked. O how vile. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3034
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 06:55:18 -
[67] - Quote
Julianni Avala wrote:May I request that the hostile back-and-forth be taken elsewhere? Regardless of what animosity the two of you have, Kim-haani and Priano-haani, it was not the original topic of this thread. It doesn't seem respectful to AKAGI to let it continue to develop into something else.
Thank you. Please excuse me, Ms. Avala, for my harsh replies. I was just stating that I am... not interested in conversations with Priano. And you can see why...
It is really hard to maintain respectful approach when you deal with such a nuisance. I will try to hold myself, but it is nearly impossible when they behave like that.
I have really very low tolerance, and I am sorry if it causes some disturbance or discomfort.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
902
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 12:45:16 -
[68] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:Sanxing has also declared war against Hoi Andrapodistai. O how wicked. O how vile.
Poor Mister Nauplius... He just wants to be loved and convince people into drinking Minmatar people as members of his cult.
*hugs*
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Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
243
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 14:31:47 -
[69] - Quote
Yarosara Ruil wrote:Nauplius wrote:Sanxing has also declared war against Hoi Andrapodistai. O how wicked. O how vile. Poor Mister Nauplius... He just wants to be loved and convince people into drinking Minmatar people as members of his cult. *hugs* Go keep him company, then. |

Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
203
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 16:24:47 -
[70] - Quote
Agiri Falken wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:Nauplius wrote:Sanxing has also declared war against Hoi Andrapodistai. O how wicked. O how vile. Poor Mister Nauplius... He just wants to be loved and convince people into drinking Minmatar people as members of his cult. *hugs* Go keep him company, then. The way that Nauplius, like, acts around chicks would make that, like, totally awkward, bro.
Glory to Bob
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
905
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 20:33:07 -
[71] - Quote
Agiri Falken wrote:Go keep him company, then.
I sense that you're implying that's a bad thing, Miss Falken, but I'm just not seeing how.
Mister Nauplius is like an uncle to me. |

Korsavius
Revenent Defence Corperation
358
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 21:02:55 -
[72] - Quote
Saya Ishikari wrote:Personally, I'm willing to extend a hand to anyone among us, who are willing to let go of the justifications offered by past acts, and try to mend bridges where possible. But there are those whose consistent insistence on ignoring or spiting the possibility, who have led me to believe, completely, that the effort would be wasted on them.
I, for one, will NOT waste a single moment, or ounce of resolve, on such people. They will simply be left out in the cold. And I will move on to others who can see past their own impulses, for the common good.
Waste is not the Caldari Way. Don't expect anyone to waste their effort or time being forever patient when it's not warranted.
As it has ever been, take what's offered, when it's offered, or be left behind. The jingoism and rule of trumpeting bigots who make decisions only by their prejudices, without regard to the common benefit, are OVER.
Find reality FAST, Commander Kim. There aren't many left who are willing to bother with you among us. I've long since been uncaring as to your ultimate fate, but in the spirit of heiian, I'm offering one final time to include even you in the efforts I have made, and intend to make, to bring the unnecessarily divided together.
Take it, or leave it. But understand that the choice, and the consequences, belong solely to you. I admire your ability to offer chances where they are no longer deserved, Ishikari.
I, too, believe in Heiian. I believe in The Way. While in I-RED, I helped oversee a second-chance program to disenfranchised citizens. They had one chance to show their dedication, commitment, and contributions to the greater whole. It was a largely successful program, with over a 93% success rate. These accomplished individuals took what was offered, when it was offered, and made good use out of it.
More chances have been given to Kim than I can count. All of them have failed. She, like the rest of individuals who throw away such chances, should be discarded. We have more important things to attend to than a delusional post-Provist warmongerer who seeks to enact genocide against a sizable fraction of the interstellar population.
I commend your willingness to try yet again to fix a broken record. But sometimes, you can't fix some things. Let us move on to a brighter future for our people, together, with people who are motivated to achieve it.
Cold Wind's Blade || Follow I-RED on Google+!
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Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
244
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 21:23:14 -
[73] - Quote
Yarosara Ruil wrote:Agiri Falken wrote:Go keep him company, then. I sense that you're implying that's a bad thing, Miss Falken, but I'm just not seeing how. Mister Nauplius is like an uncle to me. The sense you get is yours alone, honey. Might want to stop and consider what that means, in that it exists at all. In the end, I'm a neutral party unless paid to be otherwise, albeit one with a smart mouth and desire to watch the "demi-gods" of New Eden blerf at each other endlessly.
On a note of perspective, though, I'll give you an example for comparison as to why nobody is cuddling Nauplius each time he get's his proverbial teeth kicked in. I'm using the reference "You" as a personal choice, rather than an intended insult. Frankly, it doesn't have any meaning if I don't start there.
Picture me cutting your throat wide open, and letting you bleed out, quietly, for no better reason than "you're there, and you're you", as far as you're concerned. I just showed up and did it, because I felt it's the right thing to do. You might wonder why, or you might just accept that I'm doing it because it's happening. Regardless, it falls firmly in the realm of "not nice", doesn't it?
To me, it's perfectly fine to do such a thing if I need to. I've done it often enough to people I don't know. Does my need at that moment make the act itself acceptable? Does the same perception apply if I do it to someone who isn't you? What criteria makes it something other than me committing murder, regardless of why? Can I say "Cold Wind made me do it!" and be free and clear?
I could quote a LOT of old Caldari philosophy that says it's perfectly fine to do things like that, starting with "Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.". Does that make it alright, since I can point to a bunch of stuff that broadly supports it? Is the weight of words anything but air in the end, or can I say enough that I'm suddenly legitimized and absolved of anything I say I am?
Stepping outside of your own head once in a while is a worthwhile trip to make, by the by. You'll be a lot less confused.
That said, this concludes Philosophy Corner for the day. I don't really think you'll take anything away from it, but I figured I'd answer, at least. |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
497
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 21:25:49 -
[74] - Quote
Korsavius wrote:Saya Ishikari wrote:Personally, I'm willing to extend a hand to anyone among us, who are willing to let go of the justifications offered by past acts, and try to mend bridges where possible. But there are those whose consistent insistence on ignoring or spiting the possibility, who have led me to believe, completely, that the effort would be wasted on them.
I, for one, will NOT waste a single moment, or ounce of resolve, on such people. They will simply be left out in the cold. And I will move on to others who can see past their own impulses, for the common good.
Waste is not the Caldari Way. Don't expect anyone to waste their effort or time being forever patient when it's not warranted.
As it has ever been, take what's offered, when it's offered, or be left behind. The jingoism and rule of trumpeting bigots who make decisions only by their prejudices, without regard to the common benefit, are OVER.
Find reality FAST, Commander Kim. There aren't many left who are willing to bother with you among us. I've long since been uncaring as to your ultimate fate, but in the spirit of heiian, I'm offering one final time to include even you in the efforts I have made, and intend to make, to bring the unnecessarily divided together.
Take it, or leave it. But understand that the choice, and the consequences, belong solely to you. I admire your ability to offer chances where they are no longer deserved, Ishikari. I, too, believe in Heiian. I believe in The Way. While in I-RED, I helped oversee a second-chance program to disenfranchised citizens. They had one chance to show their dedication, commitment, and contributions to the greater whole. It was a largely successful program, with over a 93% success rate. These accomplished individuals took what was offered, when it was offered, and made good use out of it. More chances have been given to Kim than I can count. All of them have failed. She, like the rest of individuals who throw away such chances, should be discarded. We have more important things to attend to than a delusional post-Provist warmongerer who seeks to enact genocide against a sizable fraction of the interstellar population. I commend your willingness to try yet again to fix a broken record. But sometimes, you can't fix some things. Let us move on to a brighter future for our people, together, with people who are motivated to achieve it. It's good to see you again, Korsavius-haan. And I intend to do just that. Rikaato ti moitte.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
905
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 21:29:18 -
[75] - Quote
Agiri Falken wrote:*snip snip*
Wow! You must really like the sound of your Neocom's keys being pressed! And quite aggressively too!
*hugs*
There, there. You don't have to feel envious now. |

Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
246
|
Posted - 2017.02.02 21:42:14 -
[76] - Quote
Yarosara Ruil wrote:Agiri Falken wrote:*snip snip* Wow! You must really like the sound of your Neocom's keys being pressed! And quite aggressively too! *hugs* There, there. You don't have to feel envious now. Nah, just the sound of my own voice in my head. Implants. And what else would you get from a Civire? C'mon now. We're the ones who invented those concave transparent projectiles you find in bars after all, just to have something handy for aggressive social interactions! Everyone else just uses em to drink out of, for some unfathomable reason.
By the way, don't change. I'm pretty sure I'd miss it, and I mean that. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3035
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 09:23:13 -
[77] - Quote
Saya Ishikari wrote:Personally, I'm willing to extend a hand to anyone among us, or even jaijii, who are willing to let go of the justifications offered by past acts, and try to mend bridges where possible. But there are those whose consistent insistence on ignoring or spiting the possibility, who have led me to believe, completely, that the effort would be wasted on them.
I, for one, will NOT waste a single moment, or ounce of resolve, on such people. They will simply be left out in the cold. And I will move on to others who can see past their own impulses, for the common good.
Waste is not the Caldari Way. Don't expect anyone to waste their effort or time being forever patient when it's not warranted.
Division is not the Caldari Way. Those who cooperate, reap mutual rewards, and are stronger for it. Those who don't, fend for themselves.
As it has ever been, take what's offered, when it's offered, or be left behind. The jingoism and rule of trumpeting bigots who make decisions only by their prejudices, without regard to the common benefit, are OVER.
Find reality FAST, Commander Kim. There aren't many left who are willing to bother with you among us. I've long since been uncaring as to your ultimate fate, but in the spirit of heiian, I'm offering one final time to include even you in the efforts I have made, and intend to make, to bring the unnecessarily divided together.
Take it, or leave it. But understand that the choice, and the consequences, belong solely to you. Yes, speaking about bigots. Saya Ishikari is one of persons, who since her first reappearance on IGS started directly with hostiliy and trolling. She is also one of those persons, on whom I prefer to not waste my precious time.
As we can see even now, she resorts to nothing but trolling, asking me to "find reality".
So, Ms. Ishikari. This time I will actually answer to you directly, since you dared to offer me your hand after everything you said, and to show that I am actually open for discussion.
But in order for this to happen, you must LEARN first how to speak to your betters, and even if not to behave like a respectful Citizen, then at least to behave like a person, and like a hostile bigot.
And until that happens I am NOT interested in either seeing you or discussing anything with you. I will reserve for me right to refute any of your further words that might hurt our reputation or reputation of our Glorious State.
Until you learn how to behave, I demand you to NEVER address me ever again.
Dismissed.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3035
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Posted - 2017.02.03 09:32:56 -
[78] - Quote
Korsavius wrote:More chances have been given to Kim than I can count. All of them have failed. She, like the rest of individuals who throw away such chances, should be discarded. We have more important things to attend to than a delusional post-Provist warmongerer who seeks to enact genocide against a sizable fraction of the interstellar population.
When enemies of the Caldari State fail to do anything against us 'on grid', they degrade themselves in their impotent rage to pathetic lies about us. And Mr. "Korsavius" is a vivid example of that since I've never sought genocide against anyone.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
99
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Posted - 2017.02.03 10:03:58 -
[79] - Quote
I think it is safe to say that any bridges that were hoping to be built with you, Strike Commander, are now left burning with the fury of a thousand suns.
Diana Kim wrote:And until that happens I am NOT interested in either seeing you or discussing anything with you.
Thank you for deciding to leave this thread.
On to the actual matter at hand, thank you Akagi for your efforts against Mr Nauplius and his mistreatment of so many people. It's also wonderful to know that there are those such as PIE and Miss Auduin who are willing to work with Akagi to see this succeed. |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
499
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 10:39:19 -
[80] - Quote
I appreciate that the Commander has decided to permanently relieve us of the burden of further consideration on the matter.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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morion
Lighting Build
183
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Posted - 2017.02.03 12:44:55 -
[81] - Quote
Agiri Falken wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:[quote=Agiri Falken]Go keep him company, then. committing murder, regardless of why? Can I say "Cold Wind made me do it!" and be free and clear?
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morion
Lighting Build
183
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Posted - 2017.02.03 12:47:04 -
[82] - Quote
Agiri Falken wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:[quote=Agiri Falken]*snip snip* projectiles you find in bars .
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morion
Lighting Build
183
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Posted - 2017.02.03 12:49:44 -
[83] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:[quote=Korsavius] fail to do anything against us 'on grid', I've never sought genocide against anyone.
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morion
Lighting Build
183
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Posted - 2017.02.03 12:52:48 -
[84] - Quote
Agiri Falken wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:[quote=Agiri Falken]*snip snip* We're the ones who invented those concave transparent projectiles you find in bars after all, just to have something handy for aggressive social interactions!
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morion
Lighting Build
183
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Posted - 2017.02.03 12:54:23 -
[85] - Quote
role play bordering on death threats are uncool |

Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
248
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Posted - 2017.02.03 12:54:29 -
[86] - Quote
Damn. Multi-quoted? Neat.  |

morion
Lighting Build
183
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Posted - 2017.02.03 13:04:20 -
[87] - Quote
mafia masons ... |

Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
910
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 13:59:04 -
[88] - Quote
To me, there is no greater crime than murdering quotations! |

morion
Lighting Build
183
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Posted - 2017.02.03 14:03:00 -
[89] - Quote
learn CODE |

Agiri Falken
State War Academy Caldari State
249
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 14:04:24 -
[90] - Quote
Yarosara Ruil wrote:To me, there is no greater crime than murdering quotations! And that's why I like this gal. She doesn't take a thing I say seriously.  |

morion
Lighting Build
183
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Posted - 2017.02.03 14:18:18 -
[91] - Quote
Agiri Falken wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:To me, there is no greater crime than murdering quotations! And that's why I like this gal. She doesn't take a thing I say seriously. 
talking to your self is silly too
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1968
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Posted - 2017.02.03 14:30:18 -
[92] - Quote
morion wrote:Agiri Falken wrote:Yarosara Ruil wrote:To me, there is no greater crime than murdering quotations! And that's why I like this gal. She doesn't take a thing I say seriously.  talking to your self is silly too
Your attempts to sound cool does not impress anyone.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9079
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 17:06:10 -
[93] - Quote
Well, aside from a random inconsequential person derailing this thread, I look forward to future news about operations against Nauplius.
Good hunting, Akagi!
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
499
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 18:26:14 -
[94] - Quote
Rikaato, Priano-haani.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3036
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 20:23:55 -
[95] - Quote
Julianni Avala wrote:I think it is safe to say that any bridges that were hoping to be built with you, Strike Commander, are now left burning with the fury of a thousand suns. Hmm, I think I have pointed out I was interested in building bridges. Why would you say it was otherwise? I thought I-RED actually changed their way. Does it mean Mr. Hinkelmann's words were but a fluke, and we shall treat you just like the same alliance that was signing blue pacts with Federal militia and declaring war on leading Caldari loyalists corporations?
Keep in mind, that it is my job to eliminate enemies of the Caldari State. If you will chose to stay with them instead of us, you will share their fate. Nothing personal. And Glory to the State!
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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John Revenent
Revenent Defence Corperation 404 Alliance Not Found
657
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 20:33:33 -
[96] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Hmm, I think I have pointed out I was interested in building bridges. Why would you say it was otherwise? I thought I-RED actually changed their way. Does it mean Mr. Hinkelmann's words were but a fluke, and we shall treat you just like the same alliance that was signing blue pacts with Federal militia and declaring war on leading Caldari loyalists corporations?
Keep in mind, that it is my job to eliminate enemies of the Caldari State. If you will chose to stay with them instead of us, you will share their fate. Nothing personal. And Glory to the State!
You continue to fail in seeing the hypocrisy of your hatred toward Ishuk-Raata. Here you are preaching to well.. the void, about I-RED doing all these 'horrible' things while on the otherhand you support the fact that your corporation of old was a beacon of Caldari values for, well doing the exact same things I-RED did.
If you have forgotten what I'm speaking of, its Wolfsbrigade's tryst with Shadows of the Federation.
If you truly seek to eliminate enemies of the State you should grab a pistol, tea, and a mirror.
"Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned."
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Alex Hinkelmann
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
129
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Posted - 2017.02.03 20:43:20 -
[97] - Quote
I ask that everyone respect the rule of law here at the IGS and not derail the subject. Thank you.
I-RED Executor || Operation Grey Steel© Overseer || Syndicate Stability Initiative II©
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
103
|
Posted - 2017.02.03 20:56:35 -
[98] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:Hmm, I think I have pointed out I was interested in building bridges. Why would you say it was otherwise? I thought I-RED actually changed their way. Does it mean Mr. Hinkelmann's words were but a fluke, and we shall treat you just like the same alliance that was signing blue pacts with Federal militia and declaring war on leading Caldari loyalists corporations?
Keep in mind, that it is my job to eliminate enemies of the Caldari State. If you will chose to stay with them instead of us, you will share their fate. Nothing personal. And Glory to the State!
Out of respect for Akagi's thread and Executor Hinkelmann's request, I will refrain from a reply. |

Diana Kim
State Protectorate Caldari State
3037
|
Posted - 2017.02.04 06:06:00 -
[99] - Quote
I respect Mr. Hinkelmann's request, but, on other hand, I simply can't ignore such arrogant and ignorant slanders about me that would stay unanswered. Thus, please excuse me for the following reply, but these sort of claims simply must not stand unanswered.
John Revenent wrote: You continue to fail in seeing the hypocrisy of your hatred toward Ishuk-Raata. Here you are preaching to well.. the void, about I-RED doing all these 'horrible' things while on the otherhand you support the fact that your corporation of old was a beacon of Caldari values for, well doing the exact same things I-RED did.
If you have forgotten what I'm speaking of, its Wolfsbrigade's tryst with Shadows of the Federation.
If you truly seek to eliminate enemies of the State you should grab a pistol, tea, and a mirror.
1. Your alliance have declared war on Wolfsbrigade and other corporations way BEFORE Shadows of the Federation incident.
2. Unlike you, who actually was doing politics, choosing to sign blue pacts with enemy and declare war on Caldari, I was just a line member of Wolfsbrigade, doing one job: killing enemies of Caldari State. Decision to go with Shadows of Federation does not belong to me.
3. I actually was AGAINST it, and as everyone can see, when the Wolsbrigade finally made a choice towards them instead of Caldari State, I have terminated my employment contract with them, choosing to stay and fight for Caldari State. Of course, I have closed all my obligations to them and even helped them move their ships away from State space. But the moment they chose SOTF our ways have gone in different directions.
As you can see, Mr. Revenent, these " pistol, tea, and a mirror" truly shall be used for yourself instead.
Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.
In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
204
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Posted - 2017.02.04 07:39:52 -
[100] - Quote
Diana Kim wrote:I respect Mr. Hinkelmann's request, but, on other hand, I simply can't ignore such arrogant and ignorant slanders about me that would stay unanswered. Thus, please excuse me for the following reply, but these sort of claims simply must not stand unanswered.
"Yarr you said something I didn't like and I must 'clarify' because I have a big ego."
Glory to Bob
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9079
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Posted - 2017.02.04 17:31:40 -
[101] - Quote
Mr. Rova; status quo.
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Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
42
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Posted - 2017.02.05 11:07:36 -
[102] - Quote
Merchant Rova wrote:Diana Kim wrote:I respect Mr. Hinkelmann's request, but, on other hand, I simply can't ignore such arrogant and ignorant slanders about me that would stay unanswered. Thus, please excuse me for the following reply, but these sort of claims simply must not stand unanswered.
"Yarr you said something I didn't like and I must 'clarify' because I have a big ego." That was quite rude and insensitive. How would you like if someone started spreading slanders about you like you did something you haven't done and that you would feel sick just from thinking about that? I wasn't around when they were having issues with I-RED, but I myself was a part of the aforementioned corporation and I know her, and I saw how hard it was for her when her loyalties were splitting like that. I think because of these events with Wolfsbrigade she still doesn't trust other capsuleer corporations. Let her be.
State the nature of your medical emergency
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1140
|
Posted - 2017.02.05 11:11:31 -
[103] - Quote
No seriously, I'll pay for the exterminator if money is the issue. Spray for sockpuppets. |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
505
|
Posted - 2017.02.05 14:32:38 -
[104] - Quote
Mika Firestorm wrote:Merchant Rova wrote:Diana Kim wrote:I respect Mr. Hinkelmann's request, but, on other hand, I simply can't ignore such arrogant and ignorant slanders about me that would stay unanswered. Thus, please excuse me for the following reply, but these sort of claims simply must not stand unanswered.
"Yarr you said something I didn't like and I must 'clarify' because I have a big ego." That was quite rude and insensitive. How would you like if someone started spreading slanders about you like you did something you haven't done and that you would feel sick just from thinking about that? I wasn't around when they were having issues with I-RED, but I myself was a part of the aforementioned corporation and I know her, and I saw how hard it was for her when her loyalties were splitting like that. I think because of these events with Wolfsbrigade she still doesn't trust other capsuleer corporations. Let her be. Put simply, miss Firestorm, Commander Kim has been given numerous chances to engage in more cooperative ventures in the past, over the course of several years. No matter the reasons, there eventually comes a point at which it is no longer reasonable to continue offering chances.
While I find your loyalty admirable, it doesn't change things. She's created her own reputation, and it is one that makes others unwilling to reach out, or even interact as time passes, if not immediately. Continued declarations of her own opinion as if it were a decisive factor, or even relevant, further push her into the corner of her own devising.
If you truly do consider her a friend, this may be a time to step in and point out that we stand to lose nothing by her absence as we move forward.
Efforts have been made. I don't know of anyone who has the patience to do so further in any meaningful way. I assure you that neither my corporation, or the alliance it's part of, will be affected one way or the other, so any such effort has been purely altruistic.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Rossanjiin Eskeitan
Guri Raiders
8
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Posted - 2017.02.05 15:39:54 -
[105] - Quote
I gotta say, this is hilarious. Every time you reply to her and her "friend" (see: sock puppet), you're only further letting your original announcement get so far ignored that only a fedo would acknowledge it.
Either she's purposefully doing the most effective way at derailing your thread and you're all falling for it (hey, maybe Nauplius asked her to!), or she's just lucky enough to have found people who will give more than two seconds thought to her frothing at the mouth like a wild animal.
Keep it up. I do love seeing things plummet into a chaotic mess. |

Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
42
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Posted - 2017.02.05 15:40:29 -
[106] - Quote
Saya Ishikari wrote: If you truly do consider her a friend, this may be a time to step in and point out that we stand to lose nothing by her absence as we move forward.
Efforts have been made. I don't know of anyone who has the patience to do so further in any meaningful way. I assure you that neither my corporation, or the alliance it's part of, will be affected one way or the other, so any such effort has been purely altruistic.
I think she already made it clear she doesn't want to speak with you, nor interested in any proxies for solving conflicts. And now you ask me to do the exact opposite of what she has asked herself? No, of course, I won't. That's her right to speak with whom she wants to and to avoid speaking to one she doesn't want to, and I am going to respect that right. Nor I want her to lash on me for bringing this discussion. It seems to me that she as well in her turn stands to lose absolutely nothing by your absence as she moves forward. If you need something from it, then write her yourself in private or official mail. If you don't, just leave her alone.
State the nature of your medical emergency
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
505
|
Posted - 2017.02.05 16:52:44 -
[107] - Quote
Rossanjiin Eskeitan wrote:I gotta say, this is hilarious. Every time you reply to her and her "friend" (see: sock puppet), you're only further letting your original announcement get so far ignored that only a fedo would acknowledge it.
Either she's purposefully doing the most effective way at derailing your thread and you're all falling for it (hey, maybe Nauplius asked her to!), or she's just lucky enough to have found people who will give more than two seconds thought to her frothing at the mouth like a wild animal.
Keep it up. I do love seeing things plummet into a chaotic mess. More a probing for a fully anticipated response so I can point back and say "I tried", if anyone manages to summon any outrage at me ignoring their existence thereafter. Chalk it up to a morbid sense of civic duty.
That said, questions, commentary, and communication from any interested, relevant party will happily be entertained.
Any further "diplomatic exchanges" should go through Avala-haani and Hinkelmann-haan. If they feel they're worth the time, I'm sure I'll be notified.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9082
|
Posted - 2017.02.05 23:52:18 -
[108] - Quote
For those who are unfamiliar, Ms. Firestorm frequently flies combat recon in support of Ms. Kim, and so is not exactly an unbiased and neutral party. What's more, those who review her posting history will know she tends to pop up to sling a few more words once Ms. Kim has run her course, again often in support of Ms. Kim.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1779
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 00:18:23 -
[109] - Quote
Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is. |

Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1981
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 01:40:46 -
[110] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:For those who are unfamiliar, Ms. Firestorm frequently flies combat recon in support of Ms. Kim, and so is not exactly an unbiased and neutral party. What's more, those who review her posting history will know she tends to pop up to sling a few more words once Ms. Kim has run her course, again often in support of Ms. Kim.
I have also seen Luna Hanaya sitting at the gate in a Loki in same system as Kim, and entering system at about the same time as Kim. Make of that what you will.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7076
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 03:47:36 -
[111] - Quote
Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is.
I'm sure that I'm not revealing any secrets when I tell you what a devious opponent Napkins actually is. He gets treated like the village idiot, but he has a very finely-honed nose for an ambush and a reasonable record in single-ship engagements. I wouldn't expect a string of kills - this is as much about denying him the use of space at certain times as it is about racking up victories.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1780
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 03:51:08 -
[112] - Quote
Thats true, but ya never know..... asset denial is easy with 12 people covering his area, maybe new spots found? |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
506
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 16:15:18 -
[113] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is. I'm sure that I'm not revealing any secrets when I tell you what a devious opponent Napkins actually is. He gets treated like the village idiot, but he has a very finely-honed nose for an ambush and a reasonable record in single-ship engagements. I wouldn't expect a string of kills - this is as much about denying him the use of space at certain times as it is about racking up victories. Rikaato, Pieter. This echoes my own thoughts on the matter.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Ilan Ardishapur
Purity of the Throne
23
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Posted - 2017.02.06 20:37:19 -
[114] - Quote
For a faithless people you've chosen your enemy wisely. Together my brothers and sisters will aid you Caldari, to ensure the complete and utter destruction of those who follow the twisted blood faith. This butcher will be the first to fall under gods righteous might! |

Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
107
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 20:53:11 -
[115] - Quote
Ilan Ardishapur wrote:For a faithless people you've chosen your enemy wisely. Together my brothers and sisters will aid you Caldari, to ensure the complete and utter destruction of those who follow the twisted blood faith. This butcher will be the first to fall under gods righteous might!
Your actions against Nauplius are of your own choice. You'll find that I-RED in it's entirety would not accept any sort of "aid" from you and your brothers and sisters within the Purity movement. I-RED supports the legitimacy of the current empress. Your group, Mister Ardishapur, will find no allies in us. |

Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1142
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 20:56:24 -
[116] - Quote
Hmm, so if you guys are fighting that blooder clown, are you also wardeccing the other bleeder clowns in the 24th, and those other 'edgy' girls that were playing around before? |

Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
723
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 21:05:27 -
[117] - Quote
Feel free to lead by example Mizhara.
As strength goes.
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Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
508
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 21:16:05 -
[118] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Hmm, so if you guys are fighting that blooder clown, are you also wardeccing the other bleeder clowns in the 24th, and those other 'edgy' girls that were playing around before? The methods and means we use to go about our task will be, and have been, decided on the basis of the viability of said means in the current situation, and what advantages we can glean from them. The presence of a wardec, or lack thereof, is such a means. Beyond this explanation, I won't be commenting on our intended actions to such a degree.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1143
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 21:26:32 -
[119] - Quote
I am. I'm refraining from wasting time and effort pretending I'm some sort of hero or 'fighting for the downtrodden' by wardeccing a solo clown who's actions are like droplets compared to the sea of suffering and torment perpetuated by far bigger fish. It's been like this since the beginning. The clown is just an easy target that lets them look like they give a crap about these things, easy to kill, harmless structures, no real risk of failure and all the 'look, we're being good guys' you could ever want.
Except you know, no actions taken against actually skilled and organized entities. Or against the Empire's own torment and abuse of people beyond counting. You know, where there's actual risk involved or less likelihood of getting to pretend to be 'the good guys'.
Instead, a six pages long thread about taking on one. single. clown. One that's already got another pile of good guy pretenders on him as it is, because why not? Patting yourself on the back over that when conveniently ignoring all the others out there that should be just as worthy of a wardec or three looks a bit...
... well. |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
509
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Posted - 2017.02.06 21:48:35 -
[120] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:I am. I'm refraining from wasting time and effort pretending I'm some sort of hero or 'fighting for the downtrodden' by wardeccing a solo clown who's actions are like droplets compared to the sea of suffering and torment perpetuated by far bigger fish. It's been like this since the beginning. The clown is just an easy target that lets them look like they give a crap about these things, easy to kill, harmless structures, no real risk of failure and all the 'look, we're being good guys' you could ever want.
Except you know, no actions taken against actually skilled and organized entities. Or against the Empire's own torment and abuse of people beyond counting. You know, where there's actual risk involved or less likelihood of getting to pretend to be 'the good guys'.
Instead, a six pages long thread about taking on one. single. clown. One that's already got another pile of good guy pretenders on him as it is, because why not? Patting yourself on the back over that when conveniently ignoring all the others out there that should be just as worthy of a wardec or three looks a bit...
... well. With all due respect, miss Del'thul, the fact that I'm not willing to reveal what we are, and are not, doing, in exhaustive detail, in a public thread, in order to satisfy your own personal sense of conduct, should come as no surprise to someone as practical as I thought you to be.
You, of all people, should know better. In fact, I know you do. This is nothing but a burst of faux moral outrage in search of a hot headed reply from a fledgling organization.
If you ARE interested in finding out exactly what we're doing, and plan to do, there are diplomatic avenues available. An attempted sermon on the IGS is NOT one of them.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Jev North
Anshar Incorporated
576
|
Posted - 2017.02.06 21:51:40 -
[121] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Instead, a six pages long thread about taking on one. single. clown The page count is kind of inflated by uninvolved randoms shouting commentary from the sidelines.
"The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy GÇö everything."
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Julianni Avala
Ishukone-Raata Corporate Investment Bank Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
110
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Posted - 2017.02.06 21:59:48 -
[122] - Quote
Saya Ishikari wrote:If you ARE interested in finding out exactly what we're doing, and plan to do, there are diplomatic avenues available.
Indeed. That said, Miss Del'thul, if you do wish to open diplomatic channels, please feel free to contact me and the matter can be discussed. |

Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1143
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Posted - 2017.02.06 22:09:29 -
[123] - Quote
Saya Ishikari wrote:With all due respect, miss Del'thul, the fact that I'm not willing to reveal what we are, and are not, doing, in exhaustive detail, in a public thread, in order to satisfy your own personal sense of conduct, should come as no surprise to someone as practical as I thought you to be.
You, of all people, should know better. In fact, I know you do. This is nothing but a burst of faux moral outrage in search of a hot headed reply from a fledgling organization.
If you ARE interested in finding out exactly what we're doing, and plan to do, there are diplomatic avenues available. An attempted sermon on the IGS is NOT one of them.
I think you misunderstand. I am not asking for any insight into your operations. I'm pointing out that what you did choose to make public was a statement about wardeccing... a clown. Now, I do apologize if I came across as singling you out unfairly, you just happened to be the latest in a string of these statements that have been going on since the very beginning of his traveling circus.
Everyone dogpiles the clown, a lot of threads pop up with masterful contortions in play for patting oneself on the back for these heroic deeds and ventures, and none of them takes on anything that can actually fight back. It's not like I'm being inconsistent here. I've been saying this pretty much since the beginning.
I mean, there was no small amount of sneering at edeity's bluster about taking on that pack of alphas and PIE, but wardeccing a single clown is supposedly worth the public statements and bruised backs? |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
511
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Posted - 2017.02.06 22:25:33 -
[124] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Saya Ishikari wrote:With all due respect, miss Del'thul, the fact that I'm not willing to reveal what we are, and are not, doing, in exhaustive detail, in a public thread, in order to satisfy your own personal sense of conduct, should come as no surprise to someone as practical as I thought you to be.
You, of all people, should know better. In fact, I know you do. This is nothing but a burst of faux moral outrage in search of a hot headed reply from a fledgling organization.
If you ARE interested in finding out exactly what we're doing, and plan to do, there are diplomatic avenues available. An attempted sermon on the IGS is NOT one of them. I think you misunderstand. I am not asking for any insight into your operations. I'm pointing out that what you did choose to make public was a statement about wardeccing... a clown. Now, I do apologize if I came across as singling you out unfairly, you just happened to be the latest in a string of these statements that have been going on since the very beginning of his traveling circus. Everyone dogpiles the clown, a lot of threads pop up with masterful contortions in play for patting oneself on the back for these heroic deeds and ventures, and none of them takes on anything that can actually fight back. It's not like I'm being inconsistent here. I've been saying this pretty much since the beginning. I mean, there was no small amount of sneering at edeity's bluster about taking on that pack of alphas and PIE, but wardeccing a single clown is supposedly worth the public statements and bruised backs? We did, indeed, make public our first operation. That was simple publicity, which I figure goes without saying. We won't be doing so in the future, save for cases that really are worth public attention. Your opinion of this "clown" is not a universal one, however. Reference Pieter's statement above, which mirrors what we were told from the beginning, by more than one organization and individual who have hounded his steps in the past.
And yes, you very much did come across as singling us out, and very vehemently, at that. It's almost impossible to think otherwise, given the placement and timing. I'll assume it was a misunderstanding, as stated, and move on from there.
To be clear, we're not purporting ourselves to be heroes. We're not the "good guys", and I sure as hell am not interested in pats on the back, miss Del'thul. We've taken losses, and will continue to do so, as that is part of our stock in trade. It's both a first operation, and a time of learning, for many of us. If you find our efforts questionable, or in doubt, that's both expected and acknowledged. We have awhile to go before we're able to take on objectives the likes of which your organization can handle, after all.
I'll offer the following for further consideration; When one lacks in resources, one must compensate. This includes doing so using weapons that aren't as obvious as warships and warheads. Exploitation of circumstance, location, and relative weaknesses is one such weapon.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Rossanjiin Eskeitan
Guri Raiders
10
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Posted - 2017.02.06 22:33:14 -
[125] - Quote
Saya Ishikari wrote:When one lacks in resources, one must compensate. This includes doing so using weapons that aren't as obvious as warships and warheads. Exploitation of circumstance, location, and relative weaknesses is one such weapon.
Smart AND beautiful. Probably not single though. What a shame.
Best of luck in your war efforts. I bet Nauplius won't stand a chance. |

Mizhara Del'thul
Coreli Corporation Mercenary Coalition
1145
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Posted - 2017.02.06 22:40:00 -
[126] - Quote
Very well said. Very well, I'll withdraw the implications I've made and take your word that this is different from all the others that have dogpiled the clown for cheap publicity points. It is indeed possible I've misjudged your motives in this regard and if that's the case I apologize.
That said, my recommendation for cutting your teeth is finding targets a bit more worthwhile than him. He could be the finest pilot in New Eden and still he's merely one pilot. The conflicts that strengthen and teach the most are the ones where you are at the very least equally matched. Don't fear defeats as a capsuleer. It is the same reason why he can just pop right back up again and keep doing what he does. We can always pick ourselves up from any defeat and grow far stronger from the experience.
A sure 'victory' only breeds complacency and hollow accolades. |

Saya Ishikari
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
512
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Posted - 2017.02.06 22:42:13 -
[127] - Quote
Rikaato, miss Del'thul. I'll be taking your recommendation as that of a veteran, and pursuing it. My apologies in turn, for perpetuating the misunderstanding. Anvatkaa.
"At the end of it all, we have only what we've left in our wake to be remembered by." -Kyoko Ishikari, YC 95 - YC 117
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Ayallah
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
726
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Posted - 2017.02.07 02:20:30 -
[128] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:I am. I'm refraining from wasting time and effort pretending I'm some sort of hero or 'fighting for the downtrodden' by wardeccing a solo clown who's actions are like droplets compared to the sea of suffering and torment perpetuated by far bigger fish. It's been like this since the beginning. The clown is just an easy target that lets them look like they give a crap about these things, easy to kill, harmless structures, no real risk of failure and all the 'look, we're being good guys' you could ever want.
Except you know, no actions taken against actually skilled and organized entities. Or against the Empire's own torment and abuse of people beyond counting. You know, where there's actual risk involved or less likelihood of getting to pretend to be 'the good guys'.
Instead, a six pages long thread about taking on one. single. clown. One that's already got another pile of good guy pretenders on him as it is, because why not? Patting yourself on the back over that when conveniently ignoring all the others out there that should be just as worthy of a wardec or three looks a bit...
... well. And here we have the truth of Mizhara's feelings. In this thread and the thread about the operations on-board Nauplius's citadel.
You do not care that these war-declerations keep him docked where he cannot build slave killing factories or hold his disgusting rituals. You do not care that he is interdicted or that even a single person is saved from the butcher. You only care about your own ego and the fact someone else is getting attention in what you consider your lane:
Pretending to be some sort of hero
No risk of failure
Look
Six pages long
You do not care about the people whatsoever. You care completely and entirely about how you appear and how others appear in relation to you. Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Very well said. Very well, I'll withdraw the implications I've made and take your word that this is different from all the others that have dogpiled the clown for cheap publicity points. To you it is only publicity points.
To other people it is a job. Maybe you should get back to yours.
Still lying about the last slaves you freed Mizharah? For appearances?
As strength goes.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7080
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Posted - 2017.02.07 02:33:19 -
[129] - Quote
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:Very well said. Very well, I'll withdraw the implications I've made and take your word that this is different from all the others that have dogpiled the clown for cheap publicity points. It is indeed possible I've misjudged your motives in this regard and if that's the case I apologize.
That said, my recommendation for cutting your teeth is finding targets a bit more worthwhile than him. He could be the finest pilot in New Eden and still he's merely one pilot. The conflicts that strengthen and teach the most are the ones where you are at the very least equally matched. Don't fear defeats as a capsuleer. It is the same reason why he can just pop right back up again and keep doing what he does. We can always pick ourselves up from any defeat and grow far stronger from the experience.
A sure 'victory' only breeds complacency and hollow accolades. Actually, it's very difficult to score a victory in this situation. You want a punishing series of victories, ideally including some industrial damage like a freighter kill or a citadel kill and a semi-public meltdown from the target. You aren't going to get those. Edeity and his bloopers would be a much better target for that.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Mika Firestorm
Your Friendly Neighborhood Logistics
43
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Posted - 2017.02.07 07:08:50 -
[130] - Quote
Makoto Priano wrote:For those who are unfamiliar, Ms. Firestorm frequently flies combat recon in support of Ms. Kim, and so is not exactly an unbiased and neutral party. What's more, those who review her posting history will know she tends to pop up to sling a few more words once Ms. Kim has run her course, again often in support of Ms. Kim.
First of all, I am not "Ms. Firestorm", since it is just a callsign, and I have been said it on a number of occasions in Intergalactic Summit NeoCom channel already. Supporting of Ms. Kim doesn't make me 'not neutral' or 'unbiased', especially if I defend the poor girl from slanderers and bullies on GalNet, and in these situations, I try to be as impartial as possible.
I wish I could call Ms. Kim friend, but, unfortunately we haven't been seeing or talking to each other much. I have known her for quite long time, when I first met her, she was fun-loving hyperactive and slightly naive girl who was enjoying life. And now she is almost direct opposite to that, making spending time with her unbearable. I wish we could be friends again, I wish her to be again fun and careless person to spend time together. I don't know even half of what she went through, but she looks broken, extremely stressed and distressed, she is in pain but too proud to even accept help, just showing she doesn't care about herself and can take on everything.
And I really hate people like you, Makoto, who poke her with sticks to have a laugh and entertain yourselves from her cringes and outbursts. I know you are doing that because it is already a common knowledge that you love lying about her in public.
Myself, I rarely take positions in conflicts, and those, who know me, probably know that I am quite intolerant to Sansha monsters, and that my relations with Federation are way far from amicable.
In relation to Ms. Kim, I will stay neutral, I might agree or disagree with what she's doing. But I won't stay neutral in face of bullies like you, Makoto Priano. What you are doing is amoral and insensitive. Yes, I wanted to say all of it for a long time and finally I did it. And if I see you again bringing her person somehow in discussion, I'll call you for it.
State the nature of your medical emergency
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
209
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Posted - 2017.02.07 07:19:29 -
[131] - Quote
Mika Firestorm wrote:I wish I could call Ms. Kim friend, but, unfortunately we haven't been seeing or talking to each other much. I have known her for quite long time, when I first met her, she was fun-loving hyperactive and slightly naive girl who was enjoying life. And now she is almost direct opposite to that, making spending time with her unbearable. I wish we could be friends again, I wish her to be again fun and careless person to spend time together. I don't know even half of what she went through, but she looks broken, extremely stressed and distressed, she is in pain but too proud to even accept help, just showing she doesn't care about herself and can take on everything. Then be a good friend and be there for her. Ask her why she feels so bad instead of blaming us for calling her out when she says dumb stuff, dude.
Have you ever thought that she might do it to herself?
Glory to Bob
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1993
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Posted - 2017.02.07 07:32:47 -
[132] - Quote
Considering how many time Kim shoots herself in the foot, I'm surprised there's anything left to put into jackboots at all.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
716
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Posted - 2017.02.07 12:35:13 -
[133] - Quote
Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is.
Pedantic note: Hoi Andrapodistai means "The Slavers" in an ancient tongue, and "Hoi" means "the" (in this strange language in which the definite article is inflected for number and gender and case). So abbreviating the name of my corporation as "Hoi" is ill-advised. |

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1782
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Posted - 2017.02.07 13:29:08 -
[134] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is. Pedantic note: Hoi Andrapodistai means "The Slavers" in an ancient tongue, and "Hoi" means "the" (in this strange language in which the definite article is inflected for number and gender and case). So abbreviating the name of my corporation as "Hoi" is ill-advised. Hmm, admittedly I didn't know that. |

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
1782
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Posted - 2017.02.07 13:38:31 -
[135] - Quote
Mika Firestorm" wrote: First of all, I am not "Ms. Firestorm", since it is just a callsign, and I have been said it on a number of occasions in Intergalactic Summit NeoCom channel already. Supporting of Ms. Kim doesn't make me 'not neutral' or 'unbiased', especially if I defend the poor girl from slanderers and bullies on GalNet, and in these situations, I try to be as impartial as possible.
Respectfully, I've flown combat roles for a few years, more than half of that time (closer to three fourths honestly) outside of the TLF. Everytime I was in my home area I gunned for the same specific groups, mainly 24IC corps. Just because your neutral doesn't mean you can't support a side. Your actions dictate your neutrality not your words. |

Makoto Priano
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd. Arataka Research Consortium
9083
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Posted - 2017.02.07 19:06:39 -
[136] - Quote
Riiiight, Ms. Firestorm. Riiiight. I'm the bully.
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries: exploring the edge of the known, advancing the state of the art. Would you like to know more?
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7080
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Posted - 2017.02.07 22:41:21 -
[137] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is. Pedantic note: Hoi Andrapodistai means "The Slavers" in an ancient tongue, and "Hoi" means "the" (in this strange language in which the definite article is inflected for number and gender and case). So abbreviating the name of my corporation as "Hoi" is ill-advised.
On the other hand, Andrapodistai isn't much of an abbreviation at all.
I imagine that all manner of informal references abound, though.
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1998
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Posted - 2017.02.08 07:13:10 -
[138] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Nauplius wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is. Pedantic note: Hoi Andrapodistai means "The Slavers" in an ancient tongue, and "Hoi" means "the" (in this strange language in which the definite article is inflected for number and gender and case). So abbreviating the name of my corporation as "Hoi" is ill-advised. On the other hand, Andrapodistai isn't much of an abbreviation at all. I imagine that all manner of informal references abound, though.
How about 'Hoi-An?
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
236
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Posted - 2017.02.08 18:08:07 -
[139] - Quote
Nauplius wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is. Pedantic note: Hoi Andrapodistai means "The Slavers" in an ancient tongue, and "Hoi" means "the" (in this strange language in which the definite article is inflected for number and gender and case). So abbreviating the name of my corporation as "Hoi" is ill-advised. No, it's not!
Enslavers are noble paladins, who bring the Faith and punish people for breaking laws. Andrapodistai means not slavers. It means "human stealers" or "man thieves" or something like that. When we think about slavers and enslavers we think about good people. But name Adropodistai means not good, but bad people, criminal people, ones who don't punish bad people, but who STEAL people.
I think the better translation for word Adropodistai will be "Kidnapper", but not a "Slaver". Please don't insult slavers this way, Mr. Nauplius!
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Merchant Rova
Pathway to the Next
214
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Posted - 2017.02.08 18:26:58 -
[140] - Quote
Luna Hanaya wrote:Enslavers
Pick one, dude.
Glory to Bob
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Johanes Beaumonte
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
92
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Posted - 2017.02.08 19:58:11 -
[141] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote: On the other hand, Andrapodistai isn't much of an abbreviation at all. I imagine that all manner of informal references abound, though.
Like Ho's?
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Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
718
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Posted - 2017.02.09 00:18:42 -
[142] - Quote
Luna Hanaya wrote:No, it's not!
Enslavers are noble paladins, who bring the Faith and punish people for breaking laws. Andrapodistai means not slavers. It means "human stealers" or "man thieves" or something like that. When we think about slavers and enslavers we think about good people. But name Adropodistai means not good, but bad people, criminal people, ones who don't punish bad people, but who STEAL people.
I think the better translation for word Adropodistai will be "Kidnapper", but not a "Slaver". Please don't insult slavers this way, Mr. Nauplius!
I am impressed by your knowledge of obscure ancient tongues, pilot. I can't imagine how a Pleasure Hub Exotic Dancer such as yourself might have obtained such learning. Nonetheless, I intend to keep the name of my corporation as-is.
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Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
38
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Posted - 2017.02.09 01:07:54 -
[143] - Quote
I would think interemptor is suitable for this Khanid dog. |

Casserina Leshrac
Sanguine Illuminations
38
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Posted - 2017.02.09 01:12:36 -
[144] - Quote
Luna Hanaya wrote: No, it's not!
Enslavers are noble paladins, who bring the Faith and punish people for breaking laws. Andrapodistai means not slavers. It means "human stealers" or "man thieves" or something like that. When we think about slavers and enslavers we think about good people. But name Adropodistai means not good, but bad people, criminal people, ones who don't punish bad people, but who STEAL people.
I think the better translation for word Adropodistai will be "Kidnapper", but not a "Slaver". Please don't insult slavers this way, Mr. Nauplius!
Lady Hanaya, your attempts of mastering ancient tongues is is very noble one. If you ever wish to to learn more and from a Sani Sabik no less, I would be honored to assist in that part of your education.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Akagi Initiative Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
7084
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Posted - 2017.02.09 03:07:11 -
[145] - Quote
Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Nauplius wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is. Pedantic note: Hoi Andrapodistai means "The Slavers" in an ancient tongue, and "Hoi" means "the" (in this strange language in which the definite article is inflected for number and gender and case). So abbreviating the name of my corporation as "Hoi" is ill-advised. On the other hand, Andrapodistai isn't much of an abbreviation at all. I imagine that all manner of informal references abound, though. How about 'Hoi-An?
How about Ann-oy?
For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead
in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a
hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.
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Elmund Egivand
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
1999
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Posted - 2017.02.09 03:15:17 -
[146] - Quote
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Elmund Egivand wrote:Pieter Tuulinen wrote:Nauplius wrote:Deitra Vess wrote:Have you had any noteworthy breakthroughs in your war with Hoi? If your at liberty to report them that is. Pedantic note: Hoi Andrapodistai means "The Slavers" in an ancient tongue, and "Hoi" means "the" (in this strange language in which the definite article is inflected for number and gender and case). So abbreviating the name of my corporation as "Hoi" is ill-advised. On the other hand, Andrapodistai isn't much of an abbreviation at all. I imagine that all manner of informal references abound, though. How about 'Hoi-An? How about Ann-oy? Sounds better.
A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
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Kolodi Ramal
Sanxing
329
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Posted - 2017.02.09 09:56:16 -
[147] - Quote
Calling it "the Hoi". |

Yarosara Ruil
Haighare Pirates
916
|
Posted - 2017.02.09 10:20:01 -
[148] - Quote
Hoi boy... What a bother. |

Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
237
|
Posted - 2017.02.18 05:08:31 -
[149] - Quote
Casserina Leshrac wrote:Luna Hanaya wrote: No, it's not!
Enslavers are noble paladins, who bring the Faith and punish people for breaking laws. Andrapodistai means not slavers. It means "human stealers" or "man thieves" or something like that. When we think about slavers and enslavers we think about good people. But name Adropodistai means not good, but bad people, criminal people, ones who don't punish bad people, but who STEAL people.
I think the better translation for word Adropodistai will be "Kidnapper", but not a "Slaver". Please don't insult slavers this way, Mr. Nauplius!
Lady Hanaya, your attempts of mastering ancient tongues is is very noble one. If you ever wish to to learn more and from a Sani Sabik no less, I would be honored to assist in that part of your education. Thank you ma'am! Though I really prefer instead of learning from heretics to study scriptures and follow words of Theology Council, while praying for all Sani to meet untimely ends.
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