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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2017.03.08 00:00:58 -
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Bing Bangboom wrote:Jabba The wrote: I have read the Code rules and at the start I thought that I might join, should people face having a ship destroyed if they start mining and they go do other stuff, yes why not. Many of the things Code say are good BUT its the callus, belittling attacks that take part in local or however they do it after that is straight out harassment and that is unacceptable. What the Code are saying is that they don't like you game play and for 10m isk they might let you away with it and that's not right in a game. Its ok to do that if you pay me is what they are saying. JT You thought you might pay... but you didn't buy a permit. You don't want to pvp and a permit was offered to you so you wouldn't have to, as much anyway... and you didn't buy a permit. You were aware of the Code and the consequences of violating it... and you didn't buy a permit. You bothered to write your rather long complaint about your real life problems with not having a permit... and you didn't buy a permit. You've spelled out your vision of a game where you have some protection from CODE. ... and you didn't buy a permit. Why, in the end, have you not bought a permit?
YO loser! code is dead...MOVE ON already
code ALWAYS LOSES.
Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
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Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1008
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Posted - 2017.03.08 01:57:50 -
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
138
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Posted - 2017.03.08 04:35:12 -
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5 YOU !!!
code ALWAYS LOSES.
Dead, gone and soon to be forgotten.
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Keno Skir
1352
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Posted - 2017.03.08 18:37:29 -
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Yebo Lakatosh wrote:Dunno how can you veterans still click on these threads. I just arrived, but already bored with it's countless iterations.
Ok, I admit, some fellows post 'em in a more amusing way.
Just wait, in a few years you still be clicking that bait just to see if it's good for once 
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Kaely Tanniss
OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right
755
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Posted - 2017.03.23 22:01:22 -
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ReaperAussie Lennelluc wrote:There are many Ganker corps out there extorting money from Miners, for Mining in the Area, wherever that may be.
They want Miners to "Buy" a " Permit" from them, which is NO guarantee that you will not be attacked.
These People should be stopped from extorting ISK from people to Mine.
Mining is a part of the game and does not need to be placed under a bounty situation for those whom do not want to fight or pay for mining.
Mining is free apart from buying the ships to mine with.
o7
So stop them. Stop expecting someone else to do the work for you. If it bothers you, do something about it yourself. I can assure you, post tear threads on C&P will not help you one bit..in fact, it hurts you.
Mining is NOT free. Mining is a risk in a game like Eve. All actions in the game have a level of risk everyone has to accept. Even the very action of undocking is a risk and consent to being attacked. The sooner you realize this, the better off you will be. Eve is not for everyone. Some learn and take the necessary precautions and accept the risk..some don't and whine on here like you are.
What you want is risk free isk generation. Sorry bud, that's not gonna happen. Not here, not now, not ever in this game.
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Kaely Tanniss
OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right
771
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Posted - 2017.03.27 08:23:32 -
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Yebo Lakatosh wrote:Dunno how can you veterans still click on these threads. I just arrived, but already bored with it's countless iterations.
Ok, I admit, some fellows post 'em in a more amusing way.
Think of it like a bad train wreck.. you don't rwally want to see..but you can't help but look. 
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Yebo Lakatosh
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
132
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Posted - 2017.03.27 11:26:08 -
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I plea newbness.
The quoted comment was made on the very beginning of my journey in EvE. I still feel every line of it is true. And I still click these threads every few days.
They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
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Jacques d'Orleans
3033
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Posted - 2017.03.27 15:47:45 -
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Hazel TuckerTS wrote: YO loser! code is dead...MOVE ON already
Hazel, If you're going to try being a smartass, first you have to be smart. Otherwise you're just an ass.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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StarVex Ronuken
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.04.10 20:25:33 -
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I understand that ccp has already made it clear about miner bumping/ganking topic.. but the harassment rule doesn't cover the other areas that have code or other miner gankers where you left to avoid that group. personally I get it.. its a sandbox type game and some people get a kick out of screwing up someones day and trying to get free isk off of the gullible people that buy into the mining permits. but what ive noticed is that even if you have a permit they will still gank you. don't know what the big deal with them shooting miners is but if every miner decided to quit mining because of the constant ganks/harassment.. which happens everywhere in highsec and the loophole is its different groups so nothing ever gets done about it. without miners the eve economy would become very unstable right? you need minerals to build ships and if no ships are built there are none to sell. I could be wrong but I don't think that ships just magically appear ingame. just my 2 cents gankers can talk all the crap they want.. don't really care. but paying money for a game that I cant really do what I want in is kinda pointless. and yes since the alpha thing came out I could play for free but ive been subscribed for almost a year now. tried an alpha alt... not my cup of tea. |

Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
672
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Posted - 2017.04.10 21:16:39 -
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StarVex Ronuken wrote: you need minerals to build ships and if no ships are built there are none to sell. Apart from your 'stream of consciousness' style (seriously, use paragraphs where you can StarVex), I also find it hard going to answer these same tired points made by you and other whiners.
I wouldn't worry though; eventually, all mining will be done by NPCs - that's why CCP is trialling it now - and the supply side will thus be handled by the new AI they're developing. Isn't it wonderful?! We'll be able to switch our attention from AFK miners to AFK haulers, Autopiloters, and other Highsec ne'er-do-wells.
Marvellous!
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StarVex Ronuken
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2017.04.10 21:32:07 -
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yea not good with writing. it makes sense that npcs will be the future miners. oh well.. and who said I was whining? I get where yall are coming from.. the tears are nice I will admit. but at least tone some of the cultism down though seriously it reminds me of children of the corn
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
672
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Posted - 2017.04.10 22:57:06 -
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StarVex Ronuken wrote:yea not good with writing. it makes sense that npcs will be the future miners. oh well.. and who said I was whining? I get where yall are coming from.. the tears are nice I will admit. but at least tone some of the cultism down though seriously it reminds me of children of the corn
The message has to be wrapped in a recognisable package in order for the miners to 'get it'. They don't like the package much either; but (eventually, by hook or by Void), they get it.
If the New Order of Highsec is a cult, it's a very odd one. You're free to leave and join at any point, there's no subscription - indeed, your running costs are reimbursed! - and no records whatsoever are kept. The Order does have a charismatic leader, that I grant you. Ghandi was a charismatic leader, but I'd hardly describe his party and followers as members of a 'cult'.
I apologise for calling you a whiner; there appeared to me to be the air of complaint about your post. Clearly, I was in error!
EDIT: Grammar; instrumental case.
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StarVex Ronuken
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2017.04.11 17:47:05 -
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eh its cool man.. did some lowsec faction warfare/pirating for a month or so.. the salt and tears were magical. but at the same time it became unenjoyable out there. lp farmers and the guys that wont take a fight without overwhelming numbers with ecm and logi support. decided to try and mine so I could at least keep building the ships I fly and keep my omega status but that doesn't seem to be working either. mining is boring as hell but its kind of a step away from things and reset my mind frame thing.
not all the members have the cultist mindset.. but most do. the way they talk or at least the bio's. you should read some of them. there are a few where its about a paragraph worth of (praise james) I kid you not it just a paragraph of praise james 315.
if people actually paid attention to local or at least dscan instead of afk mining or picked a tankier miner a lot of ganks wouldn't happen. it just gets old.. same crap different day. I tried different parts of eve to get isk up to pay for my accounts omega status but I'm just not skilled enough for anything other than mining it out. once my omega status is up in 13 days I'm done unfortunately. I like this game and most of the people in it.. but it seems that I cant unwind in it anymore like I used to.
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
674
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Posted - 2017.04.11 18:13:15 -
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StarVex Ronuken wrote:I like this game and most of the people in it.. but it seems that I cant unwind in it anymore like I used to. It happens, StarVex, and to very many people. Take a break; go and do the stuff you like to do. Whatever you do, stay away from EVE. I can't stress that enough. Get it right out of your system. You'll know it's working when RL starts to throw you interesting alternatives.
If that doesn't happen, and you find RL as much of a grind as EVE was, then the problem is not EVE, and the solution lies elsewhere. I wish you the best of luck; and I'm being sincere.
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Sharnhorst von Deathwish
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2017.04.11 18:33:38 -
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2mm EHP plus 3mm active tank. 1500 dps. Pulls in 1.2mm m3 am hour. Never once ganked on 10 years by code. Must have been grandfathered into that permit...
The trick wee miners is to go mine where they are afraid to go.. which would be anywhere people would be shooting back.
And yes, the codes color of choice is yellow. |

Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1167
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Posted - 2017.04.11 18:50:46 -
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Sharnhorst von Deathwish wrote:2mm EHP plus 3mm active tank. 1500 dps. Pulls in 1.2mm m3 am hour. Never once ganked on 10 years by code. Must have been grandfathered into that permit...
The trick wee miners is to go mine where they are afraid to go.. which would be anywhere people would be shooting back.
And yes, the codes color of choice is yellow. Lol We want stuff to shoot back But usually they're the ones running away with their tails between their legs :D
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Sharnhorst von Deathwish
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
0
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Posted - 2017.04.11 20:05:46 -
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Well, to be fair.. your sort live in High Sec. I'm not fond of that myself, the police folk get so angry when guns go hot.. |

Peorthyr Ashagal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.04.12 11:56:28 -
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Hi all. I'm perfectly ok with any kind of gank in the game, with tear collectors and highsec kills (I really appreciate the efforts to actually kill players in highsec, is really neat), my only concern about this topic is "bumping".
Bumping is really "ugly" as mechanic, looking at a ship ramming another and see it jumping back, oh my God that's really ugly in a game where everything is such a perfect view. Actually I've read a blog entry from CCP in where they explain that "bumping" is not an exploit, but I wtrongly hope that this very mechanic will be somehow revisited because I cannot stay in an strongly epic atmosphere like EVE and see this ugliness around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHdMHuUHmWc |

Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1168
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Posted - 2017.04.12 12:20:11 -
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Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:Hi all. I'm perfectly ok with any kind of gank in the game, with tear collectors and highsec kills (I really appreciate the efforts to actually kill players in highsec, is really neat), my only concern about this topic is "bumping". Bumping is really "ugly" as mechanic, looking at a ship ramming another and see it jumping back, oh my God that's really ugly in a game where everything is such a perfect view. Actually I've read a blog entry from CCP in where they explain that "bumping" is not an exploit, but I wtrongly hope that this very mechanic will be somehow revisited because I cannot stay in an strongly epic atmosphere like EVE and see this ugliness around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHdMHuUHmWc Perhaps...
Kill the bumper instead of crying on the forums?
Tear Gatherer. Quebecker. Has no Honer. Salt Harvester.
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Peorthyr Ashagal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.04.12 12:43:24 -
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Dom Arkaral wrote:Kill the bumper instead of crying on the forums?
No tears here, sorry. (but I can sense some salt from you?) try to read my sentences, I know my english isn't perfect, but I bet you got the sense.
As I've already explained, I feel the bumping thingy a little "ugly" to see, this is a game with big starships, lasers, missiles, megainfernorockets... and bumping...that's the anti-epicness IMHO.
maybe a better mechanic for bumping (and some visuals) is needed to maintain the epic level of the game at the same state as other things in EVE.
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Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
674
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Posted - 2017.04.12 13:24:10 -
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Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:Dom Arkaral wrote:Kill the bumper instead of crying on the forums? No tears here, sorry. (but I can sense some salt from you?) try to read my sentences, I know my english isn't perfect, but I bet you got the sense. As I've already explained, I feel the bumping thingy a little "ugly" to see, this is a game with big starships, lasers, missiles, megainfernorockets... and bumping...that's the anti-epicness IMHO. maybe a better mechanic for bumping (and some visuals) is needed to maintain the epic level of the game at the same state as other things in EVE. What you're talking about has been discussed before. Surprise, surprise.
The way collisions are handled in EVE is no less 'realistic' than the way other features are handled; dare I suggest that 'point-and-click' is hardly a technological innovation...
I suspect that it would be just too much work to change the mechanic - even if there were an appetite for doing so.
At some point, if bumping is proven to be in need of a change, CCP will do it, and ask for no one's 'by your leave..' Let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
You will, however, have to explain how crashing into a ship might otherwise work. Pay special attention to whether both vessels are in motion when the collision happens, or whether the 'target' is stationary. Calculate the relative speeds and trajectories in order to display the severity of any damage which might occur. Ask the Art Dept to create damage workups for each ship in the game. How would 10% damage to the front off-side point of a Retriever piloted by someone with only basic shield-tanking skills be represented - in colour . Then multiply that visual damage profile for ships with SKINS; a new profile for each SKIN. Spaceships move very quickly; on collision, might not both vessels simply explode (given the high energy amounts locked within them)? I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping...
Then start your coding...
Simple, really.
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Areen Sassel
190
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Posted - 2017.04.13 02:04:12 -
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Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Spaceships move very quickly; on collision, might not both vessels simply explode (given the high energy amounts locked within them)? I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping...
And I'll bet every other null bloc would be utterly delighted by the prospect of a dozen bees in inties being able to kamikaze a super off the field. :-) |

Dom Arkaral
The Conference Elite CODE.
1170
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Posted - 2017.04.13 02:54:55 -
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Areen Sassel wrote:Sasha Nemtsov wrote:Spaceships move very quickly; on collision, might not both vessels simply explode (given the high energy amounts locked within them)? I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping... And I'll bet every other null bloc would be utterly delighted by the prospect of a dozen bees in inties being able to kamikaze a super off the field. :-) RIP 4-4
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Kaely Tanniss
OMGWTFBBQTIME I Know Right
831
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Posted - 2017.04.13 07:32:11 -
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Oooo... Suicide bumping. Now THAT would be interesting. I suspect, though, that it would only become yet another "arguing" point for those who can't seem to grasp the concept of the game. 
If I had a nickel for every time someone said women don't play eve, I'd have a bag of nickels to whack the next person who said it..
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Jacques d'Orleans
3096
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Posted - 2017.04.13 11:10:52 -
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Kaely Tanniss wrote:Oooo... Suicide bumping. Now THAT would be interesting. I suspect, though, that it would only become yet another "arguing" point for those who can't seem to grasp the concept of the game. 
Yes, it would, that's sure. On the other hand I see the new game content a really working damage and collision model would give to all of us. It would, so to say, chaff separated from the wheat, e.g the ones who whine will still do so, but I'm pretty sure it also would create a new sort of player those who try to make it thru hordes of enemies and delivering their goods. Not just a "Hauler", but a real "Merchant Marine". Like the type of badasses these guys were: "Ganked and "Bumped" for days but still made it.
Breakfast is the most important drink of the day.
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Peorthyr Ashagal
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2017.04.13 15:31:13 -
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Sasha Nemtsov wrote: What you're talking about has been discussed before. Surprise, surprise.
The way collisions are handled in EVE is no less 'realistic' than the way other features are handled; dare I suggest that 'point-and-click' is hardly a technological innovation...
I suspect that it would be just too much work to change the mechanic - even if there were an appetite for doing so.
At some point, if bumping is proven to be in need of a change, CCP will do it, and ask for no one's 'by your leave..' Let's cross that bridge when we come to it.
You will, however, have to explain how crashing into a ship might otherwise work. Pay special attention to whether both vessels are in motion when the collision happens, or whether the 'target' is stationary. Calculate the relative speeds and trajectories in order to display the severity of any damage which might occur. Ask the Art Dept to create damage workups for each ship in the game. How would 10% damage to the front off-side point of a Retriever piloted by someone with only basic shield-tanking skills be represented - in colour . Then multiply that visual damage profile for ships with SKINS; a new profile for each SKIN. Spaceships move very quickly; on collision, might not both vessels simply explode (given the high energy amounts locked within them)? I suppose that might start a new playstyle of suicide-bumping...
Then start your coding...
Simple, really.
Of course I can image that it is already been discussed, in fact I just stated my opinion on the topic (which is a discussion on that point), your implementation description is pointless unless you are actually have seen the code of EVE. I don't get the point, are you complaining because I have written that the bumping mechanic is ugly? You talk about realism, but I never talked about it, my opinion is opposite to that, EVE is EPIC, not REALISTIC, and bumping is what I can image of the most far away concept of epicnes.
By the way, it was just my opinion on the topic, nothing more. I surely don't need that implemented tomorrow, just talking. Sorry if I've touched you somehow. |

Sasha Nemtsov
New Order Logistics CODE.
674
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Posted - 2017.04.13 16:24:39 -
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Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:Sorry if I've touched you somehow. To touch me, you must first catch me!
No, no. You displayed what I took to be naivety, given that bumping has been discussed to death - in all its aspects. No one begrudges you your opinion; however, don't be surprised if it isn't wholeheartedly embraced by an adoring public, in raptures at your originality and hearing it for the first time.
The Crime and Punishment sub-forum presents a challenging environment to the unwary. Don't be unwary.
I don't need to see EVE's code. The physics of bumping were also discussed - along with the other goodies you clearly missed. It's not your fault I suppose if you missed the thread/s, but it wouldn't hurt, would it, to at least try to discover whether your opinion was likely to spark interest or not. Of course, you may not care whether or not it does so.
Have you submitted your thoughts and opinions to the Player Features & Ideas sub-forum?
You round off your mini-sulk with 'it was just my opinion, nothing more'. Young man; opinions matter. That is, informed and well-formed opinions matter.
D'you know, I've completely forgotten what this is all about. Better stop there, Sasha....
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Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
131
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Posted - 2017.04.13 22:51:32 -
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Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:
Sorry if I've touched you somehow.
Never apologise to a Codie, just realise they are sensitive petals who wail at the smallest prick ( not you ).
The locals here usually ignore their circle jerk posts to each other.
They have low self esteem from a cloning accident that denied them reproductive organs. The same cloning mistake gave them sub par brains, only able to achieve repetitive botting tasks such as ganking.
I have studied these pathetic organisms by numerous biopsy's on their podded corpses. Some superior entities (by comparison) have been able to break free of their cult like environment. Establishing their own care facility and activities, well done to the Kusions for this minor achievement. Baby steps, baby steps!
James315 started out as their carer. As time went by and the pressures of running such a large care facility struck, he had break-down. Whilst on a battery of cheap medications suppled by the Angel Cartel James315 had visions; "Why be just a low paid long suffering carer surrounded by bots - I will be the Organ Grinder and these bots can be my unpaid monkeys."
So you see Peorthr, the locals here NEVER take a Codie seriously. We nod and wink at them, occasionally pod them for sport , but we NEVER take them seriously.
Help explain? |

Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2017.04.14 18:02:55 -
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Vipsan Agrippa wrote:Peorthyr Ashagal wrote:
Sorry if I've touched you somehow.
Never apologise to a Codie, just realise they are sensitive petals who wail at the smallest prick ( not you ). The locals here usually ignore their circle jerk posts to each other. They have low self esteem from a cloning accident that denied them reproductive organs. The same cloning mistake gave them sub par brains, only able to achieve repetitive botting tasks such as ganking. I have studied these pathetic organisms by numerous biopsy's on their podded corpses. Some superior entities (by comparison) have been able to break free of their cult like environment. Establishing their own care facility and activities, well done to the Kusions for this minor achievement. Baby steps, baby steps! James315 started out as their carer. As time went by and the pressures of running such a large care facility struck, he had a break-down. Whilst on a battery of cheap medications supplied by the Angel Cartel James315 had visions; "Why be just a low paid long suffering carer surrounded by bots - I will be the Organ Grinder and these bots can be my unpaid monkeys." So you see Peorthr, the locals here NEVER take a Codie seriously. We nod and wink at them, occasionally pod them for sport , but we NEVER take them seriously. Help explain?
That is like, so many words for a group you don't take seriously. I'm certain Sasha has a more eloquently worded statement to this effect, but sometimes I prefer brevity.
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Vipsan Agrippa
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
134
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Posted - 2017.04.14 19:42:04 -
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How was the finger-painting today Mr Robot? Good Yes.
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