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Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.25 03:57:00 - [1] Originally by: Ralara stuff And on the otherhand, you lost your 2 bil faction fitted raven to a nos domi costing maybe 30mil to replace. Nos+damps is an extremely overpowered combo, especially in solo pvp. As for vagabond not being able to kill BC/BS. Realize that a lot of pvp bs/bcs are passively armor tanked with no reps/maybe 1 med rep. For example a standard plated pulse geddon would die to a vaga eventually, simply because even with its massive hp it cant keep up with the vaga's dps.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.25 04:00:00 - [2] Originally by: Ren Tales Yes, nos is overpowered. But the others? ZOMG I CAN'T BEAT IT NERFPLZKTHNKS The vagabond is the ONLY speed tanker bigger than a ceptor. It should remain that way, a specialty niche ship thats incredibly hard to catch and kill (and yet its not that great in head to head combat) Thats like saying the pre-nerf nanophoon "its not that great in head to head combat". Vaga does far too much dps for a ship that moves that fast and can choose to disengage at will(bar minnie recon). Quote: Passive tanks overpowered? Please. They're hard to destroy, but the dps is a joke. Have you ever ran into a AC/passive shield tanked myrmidon? It does ridiculous DPS and tanks like crazy. But damps are even more overpowered so more people fit those in the 5 mids instead.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.25 14:45:00 - [3] Edited by: Gamesguy on 25/04/2007 14:41:56 Originally by: The Yzzerman Originally by: Gamesguy Originally by: Ralara stuff And on the otherhand, you lost your 2 bil faction fitted raven to a nos domi costing maybe 30mil to replace. Nos+damps is an extremely overpowered combo, especially in solo pvp. As for vagabond not being able to kill BC/BS. Realize that a lot of pvp bs/bcs are passively armor tanked with no reps/maybe 1 med rep. For example a standard plated pulse geddon would die to a vaga eventually, simply because even with its massive hp it cant keep up with the vaga's dps. You shouldnt fly a faction fitted raven if you cant afford to lose it anyway. And If it is so Valuable for you why dont you have support to defend you? I get the impression that most of the people in nerf Squad are mission and belt runners. What are you on about? I was the one that killed the quoted player's faction fitted raven. Most people in the "nerf squad" are pvpers. Murder one is a pirate IIRC and I'm a 0.0 pvper. Most people in this thread are pvpers.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.25 21:55:00 - [4] Originally by: Ryysa Err... nope. Not where I am from, and most BS fit 1 heavy nos, after which vaga is screwed. Geddon passivetanked without nos is probably the only bs that a vaga can kill. (And the obvious sniping setups). The entire amarr line up of battleships simply cannot fit a heavy nos unless its some kind of bait setup. Dont generalize, not all of us have utility high slots and the grid/cpu to fit a heavy nos in it. Quote: Too much dps, huh. Without snakes with t2 mwd vaga will go maybe 3.5-4km/s, and even with ganky setup it does about 250-300 dps at 15km. How is that too much dps? Compare it to a deimos, ishtar... Hell, many t1 cruisers do more dps than the vagabond. Seriously makes me wonder if you've ever flown one. You fail reading. I said it does too much dps for a ship that moves at the speed it does. Deimos has to come within web/medium nos range to do the dps, ishtar, widely acknoledged as one of the best hacs in the game, doesnt move nearly as fast as the vaga and all a bs would have to do is kill the drones, the ishtar cannot use the retract/deploy trick unless it wants to come in web range and die. It would quickly run out of drones long before it will have broken a BS's tank.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.25 22:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Hannobaal Oh, but sensor damps are easy to counter, right? You just use sensor boosters, or mwd up into range, wait 20 seconds to lock and then pound the ship. Wait, are you saying that if you don't have the mid slots, or your ships can't cath up with whatever ship is dampening you you are always screwed? Are Amarr ships (few mid slots and rather slow), Caldari ships (mainly long-range weapons and rather slow), most battleships in general (slow, mainly long-range, and low scan-resolution) all worthless? Should we sacrifice all long range combat and sniping? All that for one freaking module? One module, man???? Last I checked damps didnt reach 200km. WTS: Clue.
Gamesguy Amarr E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.04.25 23:16:00 - [6] Originally by: Hannobaal If nos completely ruins all combat within scramble range for a myriad of ships then so do sensor damps. A ship that uses lasers and armor tank can't effectively fight against a nossing ship within scramble range? Well, a ship that can't catch a fast ship with sensor damps can't either. A fast ship with damps generally dont do that much dps, and a single sensor booster will let you lock to about 22km against 3 damps on a near max skilled hostile. A single nos does nothing against a nos boat, except maybe give you enough cap to turn on your hardeners. Btw I fly a nos/damp domi, its so ridiculously overpowered solo I feel dirty doing it.

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