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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2017.02.12 11:29:17 -
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Walk safe! o/
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Reinhardt Kreiss
TetraVaal Tactical Group
199
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Posted - 2017.02.12 11:37:34 -
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ACESsiggy wrote:So I guess I'll be seeing you on Star Citizen as well? Downloading Stellaris on steam currently -- STEAM gaming buddies have recommended it so I'm packing my bags and jumping ship o7 Could never get my buddies to join this game so
Bye!
Seriously, if you don't like the type of PVP sandbox EVE is then please go elsewhere instead of trying to convert this one into the same type of MMO there's already 70 billion of . |
Daemun Khanid
Calculated Miscalculation
689
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Posted - 2017.02.12 15:20:07 -
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W T F Is This Thread Still Here ?
Daemun of Khanid
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Sir BloodArgon Aulmais
Mad Scientists Consortium
41
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Posted - 2017.02.12 15:26:05 -
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You think the man with the million dollar brief case leaves his bullet proof vest and handgun at home? Hell no.
Iv hauled BILLIONS thru the "ganking choke points" more times than I can count. In two years I had ONE ganker try me, and his tornado volley just bounced off my shields. (1/10th of my total hp)
You're doing it wrong. End of discussion. |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
4906
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Posted - 2017.02.12 16:15:21 -
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Tipa Riot wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Pleasure Hub Node-514 wrote:On your way out, can the person who bought your character give ISK and stuff to poster below me? This is a very good idea. Edit: foiled by 2 seconds. Please give faster internet. Australia needs it. Lol, you know you ask for a ban? The char in question was RMTed, so I would be careful wanting any interaction with it. Yes. Unfortunately the loot is tainted and a can I haz competition is out of the question now. Who knows, the thread might not even make it to the moved to OOPE stage. |
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin
State War Academy Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2017.02.12 18:19:11 -
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Hiasa Kite wrote:NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:its really not, since losing their ship is a cost they are willing to pay already just to **** in your corn flakes. So everyone that plays EVE is willing to sacrifice their ship for a suicide gank. This is what you mean when you claim the penalties are not sufficient. Seeing as only a very small portion of the player base does it, we can conclude you're quite mistaken. May as well add:> This is a major part of why EVE is **** and a joke of a game for the most part.. Every thinking person seems to understand this except for brainless EVE kool-aid drinkers.
Don't be such an utter moron. Conclusions comming from you are meaningless. Of course everyone would be willing to sacrifice a thrasher to kill a shuttle carrying a PLEX. And of course not everyone would want to spend their time sitting around camping a gate, in what would be total boredom for normal people, for however many hours it takes for gankers to get lucky, or for some others just have the opportunity to **** with someone.
Furthermore, quite a lot of people are doing it. Haven't you heard of CODE?
I've had people suicide gank me and get nothing out of it except to destroy my +5 implant, which CCP reimbursed to my surprise. The penalties are so negligible that its used as a grief tactic. The game got really annoying for me once I learned about suicide gankers because it meant that EVERYWHERE you go, even in high sec, you have to go to the annoying hassle of scouting with an alt if you want to be safe. The fact you need alts to deal with 95% of the dangers in EVE is pretty lame and bad game design.
So many reasons not to play EVE. |
Vortexo VonBrenner
Raumfahrer Spiff Rakett Piloot Anslutning
2658
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Posted - 2017.02.12 19:10:34 -
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Don't worry, I'm sure you'll find a friend soonGäó
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Hiasa Kite
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
461
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Posted - 2017.02.12 19:21:32 -
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:Hiasa Kite wrote:NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:its really not, since losing their ship is a cost they are willing to pay already just to **** in your corn flakes. So everyone that plays EVE is willing to sacrifice their ship for a suicide gank. This is what you mean when you claim the penalties are not sufficient. Seeing as only a very small portion of the player base does it, we can conclude you're quite mistaken. Don't be such an utter moron. Conclusions comming from you are meaningless. Of course everyone would be willing to sacrifice a thrasher to kill a shuttle carrying a PLEX. Bolded the relevant part for you; the part that you stated. For someone so quick to insult others, you sure do suck at following your own conversations.
And of course not everyone would want to spend their time sitting around camping a gate, in what would be total boredom for normal people, for however many hours it takes for gankers to get lucky, or for some others just have the opportunity to **** with someone. And when they don't need to camp? When the mark just walks right in front of them, but they still don't take it?
Furthermore, quite a lot of people are doing it. Haven't you heard of CODE? So, they're relevant after all? James 315 will be pleased.
I've had people suicide gank me and get nothing out of it except to destroy my +5 implant, which CCP reimbursed to my surprise. Something doesn't add up, here.
The penalties are so negligible that its used as a grief tactic. It's very difficult to grief in this game. It's also a bannable offence.
The game got really annoying for me once I learned about suicide gankers because it meant that EVERYWHERE you go, even in high sec, you have to go to the annoying hassle of scouting with an alt if you want to be safe. Depends what you're trying to do. Unless you're flying a freighter, particularly in HiSec, a scout is beneficial, but not really necessary. Of course, if you don't want to scout, you probably shouldn't be flying freighters or flying solo outside HiSec.
The fact you need alts to deal with 95% of the dangers in EVE is pretty lame and bad game design. You don't. Not sure what gave you the impression that you do. Scouts have been discussed in this thread[e: or was it the other one? CBA to check] when the topic of the freighter kill came into play, but that's because freighters heavily benefit from escorts.
So many reasons not to play EVE. Those same reasons are what make EVE the best PvP sandbox out there, right now.
<^.^> I'm a cat lol
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Aaron
Eternal Frontier
454
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Posted - 2017.02.12 20:18:44 -
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NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote: The fact you need alts to deal with 95% of the dangers in EVE is pretty lame and bad game design.
So many reasons not to play EVE.
I Strongly disagree, I said in a previous thread that it is CCP's carrot to dangle infront of us. A game design that promotes careful gameplay is good because it can teach you about being patient.
Fear no one, live life, be free, accept the truth, do not judge others, defend yourself, fight hard till the end, meditate on problems and be prosperous. Things to exist by. -- RAIN Arthie
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Jacques d'Orleans
2941
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Posted - 2017.02.12 20:30:34 -
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All the moronic comments, lost forever, like idiot's tears in rain.
Have you seen Robocop? Many people don't know that it's actually a documentary.
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Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2017.02.13 00:29:55 -
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At least you will not have to hear the bloated vets cry when ccp changes things not to their liking. Enjoy whatever fresh game you happen onto
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Brigadine Ferathine
The Valiant Vanguard The Volition Cult
138
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Posted - 2017.02.13 02:11:24 -
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Arthur Aihaken wrote:Honestly, Citadels aren't really all they're cracked up to be at the moment. They really aren't, and the fixes are taking too long. We are just NOW getting the ability to insure ships. Like a year after release. Like good god its a basic function. |
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3582
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Posted - 2017.02.13 09:35:47 -
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Hazel TuckerTS wrote:At least you will not have to hear the bloated vets cry when ccp changes things not to their liking. Enjoy whatever fresh game you happen onto Hazel..
I noticed you crying your tears in every thread which is remotely about ganking. Usually with some homophobic or sexually explicit remark in true miner fashion.
It makes me curious what you lost. Please tell?!
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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LouHodo
Minmatar Brotherhood Ushra'Khan
42
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Posted - 2017.02.13 21:22:14 -
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Lord Frost wrote:Merias Tylar al-Akhwa wrote:This post contains enough salt to last us for years to come. That will be your legacy, and I thank you for it. You should have chosen your construction site more carefully. This loss is your own fault, no one else's. Nah. It's the people who play this game. It's a gank fest of scrubs. Not the game I want to play. Not my fault YOU the people who make up the game are scrubs. But hey... tell yourself what you want to make you feel better about my opinion.
You sir know nothing of scrubs or gankfest.
With that being said, can I haz your stuff? |
Roel Yento
Death Row inc Lethal Injection.
63
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Posted - 2017.02.13 23:28:59 -
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Akaro Tripar wrote:Mara Pahrdi wrote:Akaro Tripar wrote:All this griefing and ganking in high has to stop or the game crumbles to dust....this is simply not state of the art anymore....in neither way....
I always wonder how people come to this conclusion. Because it's simply the truth? The "fact" that you don't get ganked often only proves that you are lucky nothing more....or don't take the "risk" of flying around..... It's no proof that you don't get ganked flying always the same routes over and over again if the gankrate in others is extremely high.... The solution here is not that the PLAYER has to adept to it....no.... CCP has to make ganking impossible.... And THIS demand is here since the game exists and not new....seems to prove to me that it always was a problem,but ccp ignored it to keep their dream of a "special" game alive.... Well...it's time for a change because of a changed market and cosmetic changes like the alphas will not help to keep the game alive...only a 180-¦ turnaround.....
I enjoy ganking in j space, i do fly around a good amount. I don't use a scout alt for anything, I also fly different routes as our wormhole chain changes often. I have lived in null, lowsec, high sec, and j space. I have been ganked and i have been killed in gate camps but it is rare and i rarely lose ships.
I know if i was a solo pilot my losses would probably be higher but i enjoy flying with others. I have done large blobs and small gang stuff. You and most of the other people complaining on here don't know how pvp works or how to minimize risk. Also most of those people complaining haven't done mutch in game yet to have a valid point of view on game mechanics. You and the others crying on this thread die a lot because of your lack of game knowledge. You could learn how to play the game and you would die a lot less.
Also, to all of the people posting with forum alts to complain about the game, that is just weak. Impossible to take a forum alt seriously. |
Hazel TuckerTS
University of Caille Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2017.02.14 00:08:24 -
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Ima Wreckyou wrote:Hazel TuckerTS wrote:At least you will not have to hear the bloated vets cry when ccp changes things not to their liking. Enjoy whatever fresh game you happen onto Hazel.. I noticed you crying your tears in every thread which is remotely about ganking. Usually with some homophobic or sexually explicit remark in true miner fashion. It makes me curious what you lost. Please tell?!
Awww sweetie lets talk sometime in game pvt chat.
FYI I have never mined an ounce of ore in eve, I just like to mess with people.
Kiss kiss
code can lick my kevin schwantz at high noon in jita
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Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite CODE.
3590
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Posted - 2017.02.14 06:44:39 -
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Hazel TuckerTS wrote: Awww sweetie lets talk sometime in game pvt chat.
FYI I have never mined an ounce of ore in eve, I just like to mess with people.
Kiss kiss
Eeh, really? Because it looks like you just drop some unimaginative sexually explicit sentences like the common miner. I would not call that "messing with people".
So was is it a pod on AP then?
the Code ALWAYS wins
Elite PvPer, #74 in 2014
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Amon Schi
Bergbau und Co inPanic
5
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Posted - 2017.02.14 07:49:44 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Every loss is our own fault. No one else's.
This!
Podcast by Amon Schi
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brainless moron
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
9
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Posted - 2017.02.14 12:06:03 -
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So let me get this right....you play a spaceship game that revolves around players shooting each other.....you get shot....and whine about it? Perhaps Hello Kitty the game is more your style bro... |
Commander Spurty
1662
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Posted - 2017.02.14 12:29:43 -
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I wouldn't deploy even a keepstar at this point.
These things are too much ISK for their very short little lives.
There are good ships,
And wood ships,
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Spurty
1665
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Posted - 2017.02.14 12:29:43 -
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I wouldn't deploy even a keepstar at this point.
These things are too much ISK for their very short little lives.
There are good ships,
And wood ships,
And ships that sail the sea
But the best ships are Spaceships
Built by CCP
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Eazeldown
UK Trading
0
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Posted - 2017.02.14 12:37:16 -
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I think the OP is correct eve is not what it used to be . I mean there has always been scammers in eve but now there is so many in jita that you can't even always use the market there because of lag. And ccp seem to condone this as chat bots are banned and all these scammers are quite clearly using chatbots and ccp does f all. |
brainless moron
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2017.02.14 12:39:31 -
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Eazeldown wrote:I think the OP is correct eve is not what it used to be . I mean there has always been scammers in eve but now there is so many in jita that you can't even always use the market there because of lag. And ccp seem to condone this as chat bots are banned and all these scammers are quite clearly using chatbots and ccp does f all.
The market is a seperate server bro.....just sayin |
Miss GanksAlot BooM
Pod Recyclers
0
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Posted - 2017.02.14 12:41:51 -
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LOL killmail or or it didnt happen and you just one of those salty carebear scrubs hahahah
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Marcus Binchiette
Pyrotech Creations
81
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Posted - 2017.02.14 12:51:59 -
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Lord Frost wrote:10 year player coming back to nothing but ganks and scrubs. I spent billions trying to set up a citadel. Long hours gathering and consolidating my assets only to have pieces of **** destroy all what you've worked for. I know the risk, but obviously when you can't even haul fuel without getting ganked... well I'm glad to quit once again.
I'm sure I'll get backlash from you all, but this post isn't for you. It's for me and the hopes it reaches someone at CCP. Your game has gone to the wayside. I'm so glad I sold my old toon for $1000 on eBay. Well worth it. At least there are people vested enough in this game to pay that.
Cheers all... and fly safe.
I sympathise with your situation. I've been accumulating resources for a citadel also, but, considering the risks posed by random A-holes I've decided not to anchor it. At least, not until our strategic position has changed and it can be protected.
The problem, as I see it, is not that citadels can be destroyed. But rather that a lot of the destruction in this game is entirely mindless and totally lacking in diplomacy. The problem, IMO, has more to do with the wardec mechanic itself. People just blow **** up because... they can, or because it is there. There is not negotiation. No intrigue. No diplomacy - and for the most part no contest and very little to even the score.
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Eazeldown
UK Trading
0
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Posted - 2017.02.14 13:27:21 -
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brainless moron wrote:Eazeldown wrote:I think the OP is correct eve is not what it used to be . I mean there has always been scammers in eve but now there is so many in jita that you can't even always use the market there because of lag. And ccp seem to condone this as chat bots are banned and all these scammers are quite clearly using chatbots and ccp does f all. The market is a seperate server bro.....just sayin
So why does it lag when all the scammers are in jita ?. .......Just saying because there is a definite connection . |
Black Pedro
Yammerschooner
3116
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Posted - 2017.02.14 13:46:49 -
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Marcus Binchiette wrote:I sympathise with your situation. I've been accumulating resources for a citadel also, but, considering the risks posed by random A-holes I've decided not to anchor it. At least, not until our strategic position has changed and it can be protected.
The problem, as I see it, is not that citadels can be destroyed. But rather that a lot of the destruction in this game is entirely mindless and totally lacking in diplomacy. The problem, IMO, has more to do with the wardec mechanic itself. People just blow **** up because... they can, or because it is there. There is not negotiation. No intrigue. No diplomacy - and for the most part no contest and very little to even the score. I am honestly curious where you get these notions. I mean, I agree the game is lacking conflict drivers, especially in highsec, meaning players have to go to great lengths to come up with reasons to shoot each other. I can see why you think there is little room for diplomacy, because you are right, there is little reason to attack someone other than you want their stuff or them out of your space, or are just looking for a the fight itself, all reasons that leave little room for diplomacy.
But the chances of a "random A-hole" coming by to kick over your sandcastle are so remote, I wonder why you think it is a risk at all? There are thousands and thousands of citadels now, and only a few a week are being destroyed in highsec, almost all of them by mercenaries or dedicated groups that are likely doing them for a reason beyond random violence. Citadels are so annoying, and offer so little reward, to shoot that they are one of the least likely things to be shot at random. Outside of highsec maybe, although even there it is tedious enough to prevent random destruction, or more likely in a wormhole where the attacker might get a drop I can see a concern, but in highsec? Unless you make a mistake like the OP while transporting it, or get wardecced in the first 15 minutes after you deploy it and someone takes it out before you can online it, there is practically no risk of casual violence exploding your citadel.
I wouldn't hesitate for a second in deploying an Astrahus in highsec if I had some need for it (sadly I see next to no utility in doing so). Unless you are out purposely making enemies (in which case the violence coming your way won't really be random and you can test out your diplomacy skills) there is next to no chance of anyone wasting their time and their ISK to attack you.
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Yebo Lakatosh
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
58
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Posted - 2017.02.14 14:20:18 -
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Hazel TuckerTS wrote:I have been pleading for a code loser to come and get me, to no avail. Mine as you please...i do
Hazel TuckerTS wrote:FYI I have never mined an ounce of ore in eve, I just like to mess with people.
Kiss kiss
I sense a disturbance in the miner.
They say Alpha clones are only for trying stuff. I say it's just the Hard Mode.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
27614
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Posted - 2017.02.14 14:41:24 -
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Eazeldown wrote:I think the OP is correct eve is not what it used to be . I mean there has always been scammers in eve but now there is so many in jita that you can't even always use the market there because of lag. And ccp seem to condone this as chat bots are banned and all these scammers are quite clearly using chatbots and ccp does f all. If you think that they're using chatbots you right click on their name and report them, CCP will investigate and punish those that they find using such bots.
As for your accusation that people are clearly using chatbots I suggest that you learn about some of the features present in chat windows, especially the ability to repost things almost instantly by pushing two keys on the keyboard.
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.
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Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation The Honda Accord
2581
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Posted - 2017.02.14 18:52:49 -
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So going on 11+ years and I have to say the game has changed from the early days. Is that a good thing? Well if you get down to what's different now there are more things you can put in space for other players to blow up.
But the fundamentals remain the same. If you put something in space you run the risk that someone will come along and mess with it because its Eve and that's how it rolls. Eve is entropy. Eve is a wonderful picnic in a field full of ant piles.
So maybe the possibility to put more at risk is larger today than "back in the day". But go to any casino and you'll find tables with different minimums and limits. Eve is the same.
I'll be the first to admit I've really scaled back what I do in Eve for the last year or so. Catching my breath I suppose. But I see there are still things to do worth doing. It's all about setting that risk/reward knob on the setting that works for you and accept that even the most amazing sand castle won't be around forever. Enjoy building it and enjoying it while you can and take its demise as a chance to build a new and different one!
If you really want permanently accumulated things in a game world maybe Sim City is a better game for you. No shame in that! Heck, I still enjoy building the occasional city/zoo/amusement park for a change of pace. |
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