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DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 3	Posted - 2017.02.15 06:50:49 - [1] - Quote Here are the details. You figure it out. Our gang scouted a war target Paladin. We had a proteus / cynabal on the side of the gate that he landed on to push him through. We had a 920 scan res legion and another proteus on the other side. All of us were Public Enemy and at war with the target. The target jumped gate with the Paladin. 4 of us locked and began to fire with our Safety lights on green or yellow. Not reds. The paladin went into armor as he was being bumped 20km off gate. The pilot of the paladin ejected from his ship. The paladin pilot left his corp (yes in space). He then boarded the ship while we had it scrammed. Concord killed one proteus. The rest of us could not scram him or fire guns but had lock. Our drones continued to agress while the paladin pilot repaired his damage. The paladin warped away and told us in local how he had done the exploit. He then asked us to post it on the forums if we were mad about it. CCP.... are you mad about this post? I have screenshots.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 3	Posted - 2017.02.15 07:02:43 - [2] - Quote Wanda Fayne wrote: This will end well... edit. File a support ticket. Speak when spoken to nub...go run a mission and get off the forum.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 3	Posted - 2017.02.15 07:04:22 - [3] - Quote Elmund Egivand wrote: Send a ticket to a GM, not put it on the forum. Thanks for the advice but we both know... its useless.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 07:13:25 - [4] - Quote Mephiztopheleze wrote: you really should file a support ticket rather than vent on forums. it's odd as they shouldn't be able to board the ship while it's target locked by others. go away.... that's already done.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 07:18:54 - [5] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Mephiztopheleze wrote: you really should file a support ticket rather than vent on forums. it's odd as they shouldn't be able to board the ship while it's target locked by others. Its not locked though, safety green and concord would have ecm'd lol.... I listed the facts. I realize you are confused but make your own posts about it.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 07:24:32 - [6] - Quote This is not a post about war decs... stay on topic or get deleted! Merc4Lyfe!
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 07:28:32 - [7] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: Wardec tears are amazing QQ more.... we know that you hate mercs and pvp but try to remember that this is about an exploit and not about you or your carebear views about pvp.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 07:30:36 - [8] - Quote Arthur Aihaken wrote: And who says low-sec gets to have all the fun... Lowsec guys camp the same system... all day don't they?
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 10:13:48 - [9] - Quote Pvp = Eject, leave corp, Board ship, concord solves your issue.... kill right the evil war deccers. You guys are ignorant and this game is fkd if ccp doesn't fix it anyway.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 10:14:44 - [10] - Quote testsubjiect 12 wrote: Care bears should get off forums they are just like the skinny ***** at ccp socialist scum +1
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 10:26:46 - [11] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: testsubjiect 12 wrote: Care bears should get off forums they are just like the skinny ***** at ccp socialist scum you were outsmarted by a carebear, then posted on the forums crying about it like the carebear asked you too You sir..... should have been walked into the "showers" and stripped of your goods.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 10:34:57 - [12] - Quote Lan Wang wrote: testsubjiect 12 wrote: Lan Wang wrote: testsubjiect 12 wrote: Care bears should get off forums they are just like the skinny ***** at ccp socialist scum you were outsmarted by a carebear, then posted on the forums crying about it like the carebear asked you too no it's one thing to get out smarted it's another to get exploited you can not in a ship while it's locked yet he did. that ruins pvp. should of shot the pod... Learn to pvp bro. There are things called cycle timers.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 10:36:12 - [13] - Quote DioKahn wrote: Lan Wang wrote: testsubjiect 12 wrote: Lan Wang wrote: testsubjiect 12 wrote: Care bears should get off forums they are just like the skinny ***** at ccp socialist scum you were outsmarted by a carebear, then posted on the forums crying about it like the carebear asked you too no it's one thing to get out smarted it's another to get exploited you can not in a ship while it's locked yet he did. that ruins pvp. should of shot the pod... Learn to pvp bro. There are things called cycle timers and you are demonstrating a complete lack of knowledge.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 10:40:49 - [14] - Quote We figured out what really happened... it was not an exploit. It was "game functionality" and the Angels of baby jesus saved him.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 10:52:31 - [15] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: I'm still trying to wrap my head around this. I get the corp dropping to get out of the war thingy. What I still don't understand is what happened to the limited engagement? This obviously happened mid-fight, or it wouldn't be up here. The engagement timer is pilot specific, not based off of corp affiliation. So long as it's running CONCORD shouldn't be involved at all. Am I missing something big here? You have the facts. There was no limited engagement. He ejected when he hit 75% armour, instantly left corp and boarded again. Then concord killed the proteus with green safety on and didn't shoot the rest of us. What we have going on here is a huge group of carbears supporting exploits because it is used against mercs. The Paladin pilot admitted what he did in local and it was on purpose. The point of posting all this is to get CCP to stop ignoring PvP and show how one-sided toward carebears that CCP has allowed the game to become.... and also to show that tickets in game are worthless and the forums are filled with approved flame IF you are a carebear. And btw.... then he set a kill right on the proteus pilot for 1m.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 5	Posted - 2017.02.15 11:10:38 - [16] - Quote Major Trant wrote: People talking about limited engagement timers don't understand the basic mechanics. You only get a limited engagement timer if the target shoots back. Various mechanics were employed here to accomplish this: 1. He didn't shoot back, so he didn't get a Limited Engagement timer. 2. This also meant he didn't get an aggression timer. 3. Without an aggression timer he was able to eject from ship. 4. Dropping corp can only be done in station OR in space in a pod only (not ship). 5. He used the quit corp option to drop directly to his default NPC corp without having to wait 24 hours to drop roles. 6. A locked ship cannot be boarded except by the owning player, as he was the last pilot in it he was still the owning player (I believe people in the same fleet as the people doing the locking can also board). 7. People who continued to aggress the now neutral player got Concorded. For that to happen the player that died must have had his safety set to red. The OP claims they were all Green/Yellow. I would dispute that, but he may have been lied to by the pilot that died, it is common to cover up a stupid act especially when "exploit" was being shouted. The bug that appears to have been highlighted by this incident is that drones continued to attack the now neutral player. However, this was partially cancelled out by the fact that they didn't evoke a Concorde response for their owners. Did the Paladin pilot use an exploit - yes! Do I want it fixed, hell no! This is one of those case of 'be careful what you wish for'. We're all whinging about the 10 second session counter for switching ships in Citadels. I can imagine CCP making a ham fisted attempt to fix this (like no ejecting or switching ships while you have a logoff timer - 15 minutes after being shot at). We are already suffering major PITAs as the result of other bandaid fixes. I say let the Hi sec carebears have a way of saving their blingy PvE ships from leet PvPers too scared to go to low, null or WH space. Edit: Most of them will never know about it anyway. "7. People who continued to aggress the now neutral player got Concorded. For that to happen the player that died must have had his safety set to red. The OP claims they were all Green/Yellow. I would dispute that, but he may have been lied to by the pilot that died, it is common to cover up a stupid act especially when "exploit" was being shouted." All of us use Green or Yellow. You are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 6	Posted - 2017.02.15 11:16:33 - [17] - Quote Nat Silverguard wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: DioKahn, considering your deliberate disruptive shiptoasting in previous threads, thanks for the hearty laughs I am enjoying from schadenfreude. i second to this. Enjoy it while it lasts. In the end there will be nothing left to argue about and the carebears will have the chatroom that they always wanted.... ill be playing a newer and more interesting game with the rest of the entertainment.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 6	Posted - 2017.02.15 11:21:03 - [18] - Quote Omar Alharazaad wrote: Thanks for the responses guys. I thought there was a LE involved, I was mistaken. I just assumed it would be, as it seems like it ought to. Learning stuff is fun. o7 There should have been.... but this is the new CCP.
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 6	Posted - 2017.02.15 11:22:09 - [19] - Quote Nat Silverguard wrote: DioKahn wrote: Nat Silverguard wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: DioKahn, considering your deliberate disruptive shiptoasting in previous threads, thanks for the hearty laughs I am enjoying from schadenfreude. i second to this. Enjoy it while it lasts. In the end there will be nothing left to argue about and the carebears will have the chatroom that they always wanted.... ill be playing a newer and more interesting game with the rest of the entertainment. can i haz your stuff? i dare you to biomass DioKahn now dude, lol. Calm down miner. You try too hard. I am speaking about the future. Keep your bummy hands out of my pockets!
DioKahn Abyss Squadron Public-Enemy 6	Posted - 2017.02.15 11:31:47 - [20] - Quote I want all pilots to develop this "technique" into their current skill set. I can guarantee you that mercs flying T3's will be ejecting, leaving corp, and flying away with our ships when the fight turns sour. Ive dropped roles and I'm ready to "PvP" in the new EvE.

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