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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.04.26 00:06:00 -
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It has been a while since the last update concerning the Alliance Tournament, we wanted everyone to know that, even though it has been out of the spotlight, it has not been forgotten. There are some potential changes to be made to the format and we want feedback.
Interested? Want to see what changes are proposed? Wondering why pods have been mentioned? Find out in Sadie's blog Burning Pods - The Alliance Tournament Redux.
kieron
Community Manager,
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0raven0
OUTLAWZ IMMORTAL
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Posted - 2007.04.26 00:52:00 -
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Edited by: 0raven0 on 26/04/2007 00:52:55
1st!
Cool stuff!
I actually would like combat in eve to look more like combat in the tournaments, not the other way around.
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Admiral Pieg
Confederation of Red Moon
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.26 01:00:00 -
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this sounds awesome, should make for more exciting fights
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Luigi Thirty
Caldari
FIRMA
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Posted - 2007.04.26 01:07:00 -
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No more motherships, but how about the cash equivalent to one? 
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BlackHorizon
Caldari
Dark Knights of Deneb
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Posted - 2007.04.26 01:34:00 -
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Please, no more silly /heal 0 and arbitrarily imposed arenas sizes.
If we want to make it like real EvE PvP, sniper and speedy setups should be viable.
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CCP Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2007.04.26 01:40:00 -
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Originally by: BlackHorizon
Please, no more silly /heal 0 and arbitrarily imposed arenas sizes.
If we want to make it like real EvE PvP, sniper and speedy setups should be viable.
The arena will be much larger than last time and at the moment we have only one module on the ban list. Which one I won't say because a girl needs to keep some secrets ( so we can smile devious and scare coworkers or in this case eve players.
Pink Dread has been hijacked
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voogru
Gallente
Massive Damage
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Posted - 2007.04.26 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Originally by: BlackHorizon
Please, no more silly /heal 0 and arbitrarily imposed arenas sizes.
If we want to make it like real EvE PvP, sniper and speedy setups should be viable.
The arena will be much larger than last time and at the moment we have only one module on the ban list. Which one I won't say because a girl needs to keep some secrets ( so we can smile devious and scare coworkers or in this case eve players.
Banned module is probably gonna be Ship Scanners.
HAH! ITS NO LONGER A SECRET NOW IS IT!?!?!?!
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Valator Uel
Caldari
Pax Minor Asylum
Confederation of Independent Corporations
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Posted - 2007.04.26 02:10:00 -
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She's probably talking about miners. Sorry Chribba, was looking forward to a 5 hour EVE-TV session watching you mine Veldspar in your dread. 
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Spei Prodetor
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Posted - 2007.04.26 02:18:00 -
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Dooms Day Devices ! ==P
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dookes
Gallente
LDRD
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Posted - 2007.04.26 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Eris Discordia
Originally by: BlackHorizon
Please, no more silly /heal 0 and arbitrarily imposed arenas sizes.
If we want to make it like real EvE PvP, sniper and speedy setups should be viable.
The arena will be much larger than last time and at the moment we have only one module on the ban list. Which one I won't say because a girl needs to keep some secrets ( so we can smile devious and scare coworkers or in this case eve players.
Let me guess, its nos? 
It would atlest be great if it was nos, since then there wouldnt be nosfest as it was last time. 
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sdchew
Gallente
Jazz Associates
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.26 03:14:00 -
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Well, I do hope they fix the video streaming this time. The last tournament was pretty bad and I was mostly staring at the buffering bar.
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.26 05:06:00 -
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The Gallente faction's giving out Hulk BPO's and Exotic Dancers, right?
Oh, crap, I wasn't supposed to tell anyone!....
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Tyrrax Thorrk
Amarr
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.26 05:25:00 -
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I like larger teams, dunno about less module restrictions, agree with blackhorizon that warping within arena should be allowed and /heal 0 as a weapon (like last time) is idiotic.
Banned module; Cynosural Field Generator would be my guess.
PS; cash prize is seriously boring.
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Mekarae
Amarr
House Mekarae
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Posted - 2007.04.26 06:55:00 -
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Originally by: sdchew
Well, I do hope they fix the video streaming this time. The last tournament was pretty bad and I was mostly staring at the buffering bar.
Agreed. Think I'll get in early and say please make sure the feed is up to scratch. The first tourny I watched was great but the last one had some serious problems early on.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.26 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Valator Uel
She's probably talking about miners. Sorry Chribba, was looking forward to a 5 hour EVE-TV session watching you mine Veldspar in your dread.
They cancelled the Minmatar Mining Tournament this time too?! FFS!! I'll sign up and come equipped in full mining gear to show my rage!
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Tareen Kashaar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.04.26 07:53:00 -
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At least don't heal /0 pods that try to warp out, then :P
Looking forward to this.
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EscapeArtist
Caldari
Deviance Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.26 08:45:00 -
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Placing the torny right after Rev 2.0 should be interesting as I wonder how many will have fully adapted to the upcoming changes including HEAT, will it play a major part?
Anyway, like last year, I look forward to it, but its still a few months down the line so lets see how this 'pay for EvE TV' works out, as mentioned in EON.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc.
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.04.26 09:10:00 -
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2 Things.
1. Fighting for honor and glory instead of fancy ships: brilliant. Best way to deal with potential conflicts about who is getting favored by whom. As a suggestion, I would make a 'gallery of champions' somewhere in Caldari space with an inspace statue/monument for every tournament winner nicely lined up together. Something to brag about, but no real advantage in game.
2. Keeping secrets about what you're gonna allow/disallow: big mistake. If you try to keep secrets you always risk getting accused of party X or party Y knowing about it beforehand. Look at how companies listed on stock-exchanges deal with it. Immediate disclosure of relevant information is much more likely to induce trust than claiming you kept it a secret to everyone for a long time. Transparancy creates trust.
If you tell people 1 week before the tournament a surprising rule-change, you risk getting accused of 'but party X knew this 2 months ago, no fair'. If you publicize it as soon as you decide it, and preferably months before the tournament, there is no room for such accusations.
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Farrellus Cameron
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.26 09:27:00 -
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What about boosters?
Seems like ECM should be allowed now that it's nerfed.
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Mirida
Amarr
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.26 09:37:00 -
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I'm really looking forward to the next tournament and since Revelations 2 is stil a bit to go i'm pretty sure that i could write a module for our killboard so people can track their team's progress on their own sites too.
My guess for the banned module: Hull Repairer... because structure tanked ships are imbalanced as a Raven has less structure than a Megathron :D
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Sonorra Baki
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.26 10:06:00 -
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I like the changes to rules and battlefield to mimic true eve pvp more. Yay for allowing podding. Adding that true special flavor for steppping on your victims
Regarding the prizes, Im disappointed though.
After bob has scored two victories, and earned a mothership and the equivalent of 300 Bil in unique BS prizes, we now get to fight for honor and glory?
Way to protect BoB assets and to make sure the price of tribal battleships doenst drop!
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Zirator
Times of Ancar
THE R0NIN
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Posted - 2007.04.26 10:16:00 -
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My alliance allready has some discussion on this blog on our forums. And voices allready went up vs the podding rule. The logic behind the podding rule is to make it more risky to use implants. So to level out the playing field.
Point is that small alliance with less funds will not be able to replace lost implants easily. On the other hand big alliances with big wallets aren't influenced by the loss of a few complete hi grade sets. So the podding rule will only favour those with big wallets.
I think there shouldn't be implants in the tournament at all. If GM's are able to verify that I had implants when I ask for reimbursement surely they can also check if someone has imps installed before they enter the arena.
So if you want to even out the playing field for big/small ( rich/poor ) alliaces I say that implants should be banned from the tournament completely.
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Ifni
Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.04.26 10:22:00 -
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Interesting.
Regarding the banned module, either cyno or cloaks. Cyno can be negated by hosting it further from Empire space ("Oh look, the Polaris system has moved!") and the cloak can be negated by someone locking you.
The podding changes are much welcomed, since it was somethign I was asking for from the first tournament.
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DB Preacher
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.26 11:27:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 26/04/2007 11:28:38
Originally by: Zirator
My alliance allready has some discussion on this blog on our forums. And voices allready went up vs the podding rule. The logic behind the podding rule is to make it more risky to use implants. So to level out the playing field.
Point is that small alliance with less funds will not be able to replace lost implants easily. On the other hand big alliances with big wallets aren't influenced by the loss of a few complete hi grade sets. So the podding rule will only favour those with big wallets.
This man speaks the truth. We'll simply buy 30 x each implant set needed to cover any problems and sell the excess later.
Smaller alliances can't do that so it simply doesn't change anything apart from making the larger alliances stronger and a small isk-sink into the tournament.
However, I disagree with the conclusion to ban pirate implants simply because CCP are laying out the plan to make the combat more realistic. Taking away those implant sets would simply nerf it back again.
Decide which way you want to go and stick with it.
dbp
Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner
Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
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Snackus Kentoran
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Posted - 2007.04.26 11:43:00 -
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Originally by: "CCP Eris Discordia"
So the compromise, at the moment, is that teams will have to risk losing their implants.
You guys really need to work on your logic problems. Money requirement + added risk = LARGER money requirement, not less.
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Gunstar Zero
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.26 12:36:00 -
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sounding good - looking forward to this one.
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StarLite
Amarr
Evolution
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.04.26 13:34:00 -
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I guess the banned mod is the cloaking device.
You don't want the entire opponent team to cloak right at the start and sit out the timer? :P
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.04.26 14:07:00 -
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what about the normal people..
All the coorperations who are not in an alliance?
mabe its an idea to start tournaments for coorperations who are not in an alliance.
so that they get a bit of fun 2
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Pilk
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.26 14:13:00 -
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Originally by: Garia666
what about the normal people..
All the coorperations who are not in an alliance?
mabe its an idea to start tournaments for coorperations who are not in an alliance.
so that they get a bit of fun 2
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=446987
Oh, and check out my sig. 
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.04.26 15:48:00 -
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pvp in eve seems to be a war of resources, aka who can get more pilots, and better ships and modules. shouldn't the tournament play be about who can field a better team, aka who can field the 10 most diverse ships. i think that everyone should show up, and ccp makes a replacement ship for them for each round, and gives them replacement implants if they get podded. or hell, they could even just let you use whatever you want.
my .02 isk says that the tournament should be all about strategy and tactics, and have nothing to do with how fat your (or your alliance's) wallet is
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